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Credit where credit is due…

by Dennis G.|  April 29, 201110:59 pm| 58 Comments

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I wrote last night about the Washington Post hosting Donald Trump as their guest at this weekend’s White House Correspondents’ Dinner. The responsibility for this decision belongs to the Publisher, Katharine Weymouth. The Trump invitation has stunned many folks at the Washington Post and some are speaking out. Ezra Klein tweeted that it was “embarrassing”, but it was Dana Milbank who went to town on Trump and the entire event. Here is a taste:

On Thursday, the Washington Post editorializes that Donald Trump has been campaigning on “bogus” issues and that he should “cease and desist.” An article in the news pages the same day reports that the great orange charlatan’s “simply wild speculation” has “almost no basis in fact.”

Then, on Saturday night, Post reporters and editors, in black-tie finest, go to the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner to host their invited guests, including. . . Donald Trump.

Awkward though the Trump invitation is, it is just one of the many problems with the annual dinner and its satellite events. [snip]

Along the way, journalists wind up serving as pimps: We recruit Hollywood stars to entertain the politicians, and we recruit powerful political figures to entertain the stars. Corporate bosses bring in advertisers to gawk at the display…

Milbank ends with a declaration to skip the event. Yes, Dana has said and done some pretty stupid things over the years, but he deserve some praise for this one.

If he keeps this up he’ll not get any more invitations to village parties. That could only be a good thing and getting “kicked out” of the club will serve to make Milbank a better reporter and columnist.

And now for an Open Thread…

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  1. 1.

    PeakVT

    April 29, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Hell hath no fury like a Villager scorned?

    ETA: If it happens. Milbank might get nervous and churn out some beat sweeteners next week.

  2. 2.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 29, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    That could only be a good thing and getting “kicked out” of the club will serve to make Milbank a better reporter and columnist.

    Not to mention the minute, but definitely there, possibility of being a respectable human being.

  3. 3.

    TG Chicago

    April 29, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    So we should give Dana Milbank praise for picking an easy target, and shifting the blame to the Correspondents’ Dinner instead of the WaPo publisher?

    No thanks.

  4. 4.

    mcd410x

    April 29, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Go Bolts!!

  5. 5.

    JAHILL10

    April 29, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Perhaps there is no pure stance from which to attack this if you are in fact in and among the Villagers, but I give credit to Milbank for at least taking a public stance. That’s better than the wink and nod crap most of the “journalists” in DC peddle while pretending to have some professional integrity.

  6. 6.

    SST

    April 29, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    I’m more ambivalent about Milbank’s column. Sure, I like what he wrote. I agree with it. But he’ll be back to his usual bullshit in no time. Remember that article he wrote about how he and his wife were having a tough time with one of the banks (BOA, IIRC) and seemed to realize that bad things were consistently happening to people less fortunate than him? A column or two later he was back to chiding liberals and the House Progressive Caucus for their lack of Seriousness. If this column marks the beginning to a sustained effort by Milbank to not suck, I’ll give him credit. But I doubt it will. So, until then, no.

  7. 7.

    General Stuck

    April 29, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Along the way, journalists wind up serving as pimps: We recruit Hollywood stars to entertain the politicians, and we recruit powerful political figures to entertain the stars. Corporate bosses bring in advertisers to gawk at the display…

    It goes much deeper than just this annual event and it’s mixing celebrity entertainment with what should be minimalist hallowed halls of the fourth estate without the glamor and focus on the bouncing ball of profit.

    Good for Dana, but the rot that is our media needs it’s diseased roots pulled up and replanted in the fertile soil of fearless truth telling in a spare room with a couple of chairs and a microphone and not much else.

    It will happen, one way or another. Only question is, whether it comes from a sudden bolt of enlightenment to the American public at the Applebee’s salad bar, or at the tail end of a long soup line.

    It seems nothing shames these fuckers, or enough of them to matter. So I hold little hope we will learn without sufficient pain and suffering as a people

  8. 8.

    Little Boots

    April 29, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    you know, at least Louis XIV’s courtiers had the courtesy to retire to Versailles and not pretend to be “us.” When does the Village just disappear behind some curtain and stop pretending to have anything to do with the rest of the country?

  9. 9.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    April 29, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    brietbart on maher, claiming that glenn beck heavily edited his statements about sherrod.

    my head, its in thousands of pieces, i must call the merry maids in the morning.

  10. 10.

    Little Boots

    April 29, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    @Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:

    when they eat their own, is anything left but a wing and a nut?

  11. 11.

    RosiesDad

    April 29, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    The NY Times has skipped (boycotted?) the White House Correspondents Dinner for several years. There is a lot to criticize the Grey Lady for; this is not one of those things.

  12. 12.

    Arundel

    April 29, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    The Trump invitation has stunned many folks at the Washington Post and some are speaking out.

    What, in the past two days? No one is “stunned”, they’re just embarrassed at being portrayed as the amoral jackals they are. Believe me, Trump’s invitation went out weeks ago, when they were very happy to entertain his grotesque shit-show. Now that he’s been disproved and shown a horrid racist with new goalpost-moving assertions that Obama is instead a dumb negro affirmative-action baby, of course they’re scrambling for excuses. I for one am enjoying their humiliation at this, I hope Trump demands his place at the podium and gives a scorching speech that will blow us away with its racism, ignorance, and stupidity. Trump is the fat golden hog whose mouth-farts the media has been covering “seriously” for the past two months or more. He is the ultimate degenarate symbol of Beltway decadence and laziness and idiocy, the so-called “journalists” who ever took him seriously. I can’t wait for his speech, and/or the kerfuffle that will happen if he’s asked to decline. He’s the sort of stupid pig businessman the Beltway media seems to worship- go to it, you loathsome hacks. Feel free to further disgrace yourselves.

  13. 13.

    Little Boots

    April 29, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    I miss Colbert.

  14. 14.

    Mark S.

    April 29, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    With the proliferation of A-list parties and the infusion of corporate and lobbyist cash, Washington journalists give Americans the impression we have shed our professional detachment and are aspiring to be like the celebrities and power players we cover.

    Ha! That horse is out of the barn. The real problem is that it’s hard to relate to the common man when you’re making seven figures.

  15. 15.

    Nellcote

    April 29, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    After writing such heartfelt columns it will be interesting to see if Capehart and Robinson show up for dinner with Trump.

  16. 16.

    Steve

    April 29, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Is this worse than the year someone invited Paula Jones?

  17. 17.

    Allan

    April 29, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    @Arundel: I don’t believe Trump has been invited to do more than sit at a table with (relatively) decent people who will pretend that he isn’t covered in feces.

    Trump will have to sit there and pretend to take the jokes at his expense from the podium with equanimity.

  18. 18.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 29, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    @Steve: Yes.

  19. 19.

    azlib

    April 29, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    This all part and parcel of journalism becoming entertainment. Trump is entertaining, so it is no surprise he would be invited to the dinner, regardless of all the lies he told about Obama’s “birther problem”.

    The editorial board of the Post can rip him a new asshole in an editorial, but they will still mingle with him at a party because he is still an important entertainer. They see no conflict whatsoever. It is all just “entertainment” and cannot possibly do any harm.

  20. 20.

    Cat Lady

    April 29, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    This dinner would be the right time for Obama to call in an airstrike, or just to be sure, nuke them from space.

    ETA: When a whore calls out other whores for being disgusting whores, it’s time for a

  21. 21.

    Mark S.

    April 30, 2011 at 12:00 am

    I was looking at Bobo’s retarded blog and found this gem: People who favor redistributionist policies are angrier, more racist, and have shittier marriages than serious people who want to end Medicare. I’m surprised the study didn’t state that liberals also have smaller dicks and live in their parents’ basements, but perhaps that’s being saved for a later study.

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 30, 2011 at 12:09 am

    @Little Boots:

    Actually, even doing that didn’t save their worthless asses in the end.

    I’m really looking forward to SPaT’s ringside commentary as she knits away when the tumbrels glide up before her as the Village Idiots are dealt with in a proper Jacobin manner.

  23. 23.

    Cat Lady

    April 30, 2011 at 12:10 am

    @Cat Lady:

    conflagration. Burn it all down to the fucking ground, Milbank. Go out with a bang.

  24. 24.

    Chad N Freude

    April 30, 2011 at 12:13 am

    If this is truly an Open Thread, I can link to this paean to TSA (Wait! That should be pee-on.) A TEXAS REPUBLICAN says TSA has got to be reined in. We may have passed through the wingularity and are now in WOW (Wingnut Opposite World).

    ETA: At least it’s a break from discussing the Press and Politics Mutual Fellation Society.

  25. 25.

    MikeJ

    April 30, 2011 at 12:14 am

    [whispered]You’re such a dick[/whispered]

  26. 26.

    Mark S.

    April 30, 2011 at 12:19 am

    @Mark S.:

    Oh, and this study (authored by one of the Volokh boys) is entitled: What Drives Views on Government Redistribution and Anti-Capitalism: Envy or a Desire for Social Dominance?

  27. 27.

    BruceFromOhio

    April 30, 2011 at 12:29 am

    Old compost out, new compost in. Its the back yard, but it also sounds like DC.

    Good thing the stuff in the back yard comes with beer.

  28. 28.

    BruceFromOhio

    April 30, 2011 at 12:31 am

    @Cat Lady: When a whore calls out other whores for being disgusting whores, it’s time for a

    a … a ..? A what? WHAT? Pray tell.

  29. 29.

    jwb

    April 30, 2011 at 12:32 am

    @Mark S.: Mock Bobo all you want, but don’t help him out by giving him links.

  30. 30.

    hamletta

    April 30, 2011 at 12:37 am

    I am all for encouraging good behavior on the part of Mr. Milbank. He teeters between Villager and not, but I believe is heart’s in the right place.

    He did a live blog at the GOS years ago, back when he was a feisty WH reporter. All the questioners wanted to hold him responsible for the WaPo’s sins instead of asking him about his own work, which was pretty damn good at the time. It was a trainwreck.

    And yeah, I remember @dickwhisperer and “Mad Bitch Ale.”

    The latter gave me the idea to do a retort with my mom’s friend who’d recently been bought out at the WaPo, with us in ratty bathrobes and pink curlers: “It’s 5:00 somewhere, honey. I’m havin’ me a Misogynist Pigbastard Pilsner!”

  31. 31.

    delphi_ote

    April 30, 2011 at 12:37 am

    @General Stuck: “It seems nothing shames these fuckers, or enough of them to matter. So I hold little hope we will learn without sufficient pain and suffering as a people”

    I used to have this attitude, before 9/11. Then I learned that pain and suffering just makes people make even worse decisions. If we hit a tipping point, I think we’ll only get less rational as a people.

  32. 32.

    mcd410x

    April 30, 2011 at 12:38 am

    GO GRIZZLIES! Hells, yeah!

  33. 33.

    Chad N Freude

    April 30, 2011 at 12:38 am

    @Allan:

    I don’t believe Trump has been invited to do more than sit at a table with (relatively) decent people who will pretend that he isn’t covered in made entirely of feces.

    Fixed, in the interest of accuracy.

  34. 34.

    hilts

    April 30, 2011 at 12:40 am

    These dinners (WHC, Gridiron, etc) are a fucking abomination. Between the royal wedding and the WHC Dinner, the MSM his hit the motherlode of shallowness and superficiality.

    This morning I was channel surfing to find news and all I found were a bunch of pampered prima donnas gushing over the brilliant and transcendental quality of the royal wedding. When I clicked on CBS, I saw Harry Smith doing a stand-up amid piles of rubble and I felt relief that at least one news outlet had decided to leave the Windsor family nonsense to its competitors and focus on something that matters. As soon as Smith finished his sentence, he threw it back to Katie Couric who announced that she’d have more coverage of the royal wedding after a commercial break. This bit of cognitive dissonance reminded me of the saying that the role of a journalist is to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. These gushing prima donna assholes aren’t worth a warm bucket of urine.

  35. 35.

    Chad N Freude

    April 30, 2011 at 12:42 am

    @efgoldman: I too

    Wish I were that clever.

    Actually, I appreciate the compliment. Thank you. Now back to our regularly scheduled rudeness and sniping.

  36. 36.

    Chris Wolf

    April 30, 2011 at 12:42 am

    Trumps reaction to the inevitable Trump jokes will be worth the price of his invitation.

  37. 37.

    Chad N Freude

    April 30, 2011 at 12:48 am

    @Chris Wolf: You’ve got to be kidding! He will take them as compliments and recognition of his supreme importance in the Grand Scheme of Things and bask in his narcissistic glory. Oh, wait. Maybe that is the priceless reaction

  38. 38.

    Steve in Sacto

    April 30, 2011 at 12:52 am

    There’s nothing inherently wrong with savoring Johnnie Walker Blue with the politicians we cover.

    Sorry, but this encompasses everything that’s wrong with Village. Milbank #fail.

  39. 39.

    Chad N Freude

    April 30, 2011 at 1:01 am

    He gives narcissism a bad name.

    Ok, you made me laugh out loud. Are you happy now?

  40. 40.

    asiangrrlMN

    April 30, 2011 at 1:13 am

    @Chad N Freude: Depends on the joke. Man’s got an awfully thin skin.

  41. 41.

    Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel)

    April 30, 2011 at 1:13 am

    @efgoldman: Hi, ef!
    Having watched the rest of LOTR, I think they turned the music down just a hair in The Two Towers and ROTK. It had its moments. Leitmotivs are cool, I guess. Pace, your excellent daughter.

    Never been much a Wagner fan. The period of music history from the death of Beethoven up to Debussey (the music I grew up listening to)seems like a long, tiresome, melodramatic whinge.* (I reserve the right to volta face on this as my tastes migrate)

    *excepting Schubert, whom I dig.

    ETA: Oh, blast! You’ve gone to bed.

  42. 42.

    Comrade Luke

    April 30, 2011 at 1:51 am

    FYI – this post was cut off in the RSS feed. I don’t know if a setting was changed or what, but I thought I’d let the powers that be know that it was an excerpt instead of a full post in the feed.

  43. 43.

    arguingwithsignposts

    April 30, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Wait, Dana Milbank is lecturing the villagers?

    Code Blue – irony has been murdered – again – in the hallway.

  44. 44.

    Yutsano

    April 30, 2011 at 2:12 am

    @Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel):

    The period of music history from the death of Beethoven up to Debussey (the music I grew up listening to)seems like a long, tiresome, melodramatic whinge.

    That’s because it was, if you stayed in the German-Austrian musical axis. The real sweet part about this period was the rise of nationalism and the expression of more native and non-traditional tonal schemes. Witness the soaring openness suggesting the white fields of Finland that marks a Sibelius symphony, or Mahler turning a children’s song into a long depressing lament appropriate for a funeral dirge. And don’t forget Dvorak. Also the American composers were starting to find their footing during this era as well. But if all you knew was Wagner, all you got was bombastic overused melodies and 18 hour opera cycles that need serious editing. That and Wagner personally was a racist anti-Semitic asshole. There was a reason he was you-know-who’s favorite.

  45. 45.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 30, 2011 at 2:22 am

    @Yutsano:

    There was a reason he was you-know-who’s favorite.

    Didn’t know that Voldemort (oh, stop it, Ron!) was a Wagner fan.

  46. 46.

    freelancer

    April 30, 2011 at 2:26 am

    @Yutsano:

    Yuts! How ya be?

  47. 47.

    Yutsano

    April 30, 2011 at 2:40 am

    @freelancer: I made it through the week more or less intact, I discovered the marvelous relief that is the epidural steroid injection, and I seem to have pissed off my Galtian overlord kitteh royally because she’s totally ignoring me tonight. Other than that life is a bowl of cereal at midnight. Et tu?

  48. 48.

    freelancer

    April 30, 2011 at 3:04 am

    @Yutsano:

    Oh. Didn’t know you were having med flareups. Sympathies. Life with the folks at the moment have been trying, but rewarding in that I’ve become the XO for my grandmother’s cancer care, but amongst all the family shit going on, I feel like I’m serving them well, and being a shoulder to lean on. I keep telling myself it’s all gonna be worth it.

  49. 49.

    Jewish Steel

    April 30, 2011 at 3:05 am

    Yutsy: Word to that. I do have a soft spot for Smetana.

  50. 50.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    April 30, 2011 at 3:13 am

    @Yutsano: I’m fond of Brahms, too. Gotta admire a guy that not only wrote his Requiem in the vernacular, but also forgot to mention Christ. Must have been an oversight.

  51. 51.

    hilts

    April 30, 2011 at 3:18 am

    @Parallel 5ths (Jewish Steel):

    Don’t overlook Saint Saens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsD0FDLOKGA&feature=related

  52. 52.

    Yutsano

    April 30, 2011 at 3:44 am

    @hilts: Indeed.

  53. 53.

    batgirl

    April 30, 2011 at 9:07 am

    @Arundel:

    Now that he’s been disproved

    He was disproved from the very beginning since Obama had already released a state authorized valid birth certificate. But it took the release of the “long form” for many in the village to get embarrassed and STFU.

    For example, why didn’t Bob Schieffer go off on Trump before the release of the “long form?”

  54. 54.

    SRW1

    April 30, 2011 at 9:20 am

    ” the great orange charlatan”?

    Donald Trump would like you to know, Dana, that this was uncalled for.

  55. 55.

    forked tongue

    April 30, 2011 at 9:22 am

    I am surprised no one else mentioned this weird moment from Milbank’s piece:

    My late colleague David Broder once recalled how, when he began newspapering in mid-century, journalists embraced the credo that “the only way a reporter should ever look at a politician is down.” He said they “prided themselves on their independence, their skepticism, and they relished their role in exposing the follies and the larceny of public officials.”

    Did some editor delete the following sentence, in which Broder then laughed so hard his false teeth flew across the room?

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle

    April 30, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Katharine Weymouth is a disaster of a publisher. She seems to be going after the wingnut audience, for $$$$.

    She is destroying her grandmother’s newspaper.

    She needs to be fired. To spend more time with her family, or whatever.

  57. 57.

    sukabi

    April 30, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    color me cynical, but Milbank will be back pimpin for the pols before the ink is dry on his last column… and to think otherwise is to ignore his history, and the power of the cocktail weeney.

  58. 58.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 30, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Haha. Good luck with your new low paying journalism career, DickWhisperer.

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