Multiple news outlets are reporting that the United States military killed that motherfucker — and on the anniversary of Bush’s famed “Missioned Accomplished” photo op.
Not a bad week for our Kenyan-in-Chief.
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Multiple news outlets are reporting that the United States military killed that motherfucker — and on the anniversary of Bush’s famed “Missioned Accomplished” photo op.
Not a bad week for our Kenyan-in-Chief.
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micah616
Obama hu akbar, indeed.
Sirkowski
WHERE IS OSAMA’S DEATH CERTIFICATE?!?
sistermoon
While The Donald is firing has-beens,The President is killing terrorists…
Barack Obama is a badass. That is all.
jk
How many Fox News hosts and rt wing radio hosts will call in sick tomorrow?
Who’ll be the first Repub birther bill supporter in the House to congratulate Obama/
Where’s Liz Cheney now?
No one of Importance
Such unalloyed good news. There will be a backlash, most likely, and the wars will go on, as will Al-Quaeda, but if a man ever needed to die, Osama bin Laden did.
Rest in hell, you mofo.
JohnT
Thank god, one less religious fundamentalist.
MikeJake
AMURRICA!
F*** YEAH!
Welp, off to bed. Gotta go to the unemployment office tomorrow.
MikeJ
AMURRICA!
F*** YEAH!
Welp, off to bed. Gotta go to the unemployment office tomorrow.
ET
Never thought we would hear this. I was sure that if we did get it that they would just kill him and dump in at sea with no word in the media (I just hear he might be buried at sea – no place to go).
Now we just have to wait for blow back.
Phoenix
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjsa0vvlq1qzu2tdo1_400.gif
Roger Moore
This just shows the lawlessness of the Obama administration; they didn’t even try to have him properly arrested and extradited![/wingnut]
"Fair and Balanced" Dave
The guy(s) who put the bullet(s) in bin Laden will never have to pay for a drink in NYC.
Fallsroad
Great.
I am certain President Obama will close his address by immediately pulling all the troops from Afghanistan.
Of course, since Bin Laden was allegedly killed in a mansion outside Islamabad, the invasion of Pakistan will immediately commence.
James E Powell
This is good news — for John McCain!
James E Powell
This is good news — for John McCain!
JamesKPolkEsq
Oh, baby, this is going to be awesome!!
/Grabs popcorn
justdale
And the delayed news conference may preempt Celebrity Apprentice on the left coast. Truly mission accomplished.
By the Trump Rules of War, we get to keep OBL’s cave.
Seebach
Obama pretty much had to do this. I really would have preferred a fair trial, but…
fuck you Mission Accomplished Bush you fucking worthless asshole.
Omnes Omnibus
@Roger Moore: Gawd, that one might happen.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
jesus, i haven’t been paying attention to the war on terror.
i didn’t even know osama bin laden had been demoted to al queda’s number three man.
Steve
When I go by the WTC tomorrow I want to see that fucker’s head on a pike. Not that I’m bloodthirsty or anything.
Loneoak
@Phoenix:
FTW.
Petorado
The two saddest groups right now are Al Qaeda and Fox News .. and the Republicans. OK, the three saddest groups right now are Al Qaeda, Fox News, the Republicans … and Tea Partiers. OK, OK, the four saddest groups right now …
@sirkowski that’s LONG FORM death certificate, buddy.
Comrade Luke
Prediction: this will be spun as great news for…Petraeus, who will run for president as The Man Who Killed Bin Laden.
kd bart
Repubs might as well run Palin, Trump or Bachmann in 2012. It’s already over.
Legalize
I look forward to Sarah Palin’s MySpace Tweet on this.
Jay in Oregon
Trump’s next public statement will be him wondering how Obama was able to pull off killing Osama Bin Laden; he knows lots of smart, rich, white Presidents who couldn’t do it.
IM
If he really was killed near Islamabad, the situation in Pakistan is worse then thought.
Also: At the time of the publication of the birth certificated, but surely at the time of the dinner, he was already dead? Almost like West Wing.
Old Dan and Little Ann
It was nearly 10 years ago that my wife and I were in an Annapolis bar throwing darts at Obama’s picture on a board. Time flies when you’re having fun….
kindness
I’ll bet by morning Karl Rove will be crediting dubya with responsibility for killing bin Laden and the rest of the media will agree.
PanAmerican
I have two questions:
Why the Pakis gave him up and is John King drunk?
smith
I hate saying anyone deserves to die even if they are the most vile right-winger but Osama bin Laden was one douchebag that I shed no tears over. While I wish he had been captured and killed right away it does warm my heart that it happened under Obama’s watch. Obama did in two years what Bush couldn’t or didn’t want to do in 7 years.
Seriously, though, what are the deranged right-wingers going to say? The only thing they can try and do is claim credit for Bush which will be very difficult.
How rich that Obama has probably known for days that bin Laden has been dead and has probably been silently smirking to himself all week long while others have been distracted by the nonsense birther issue. And to top it all off, Celebrity Apprentice was interrupted. Trump got owned by Obama two consecutive days in the most humiliating way possible.
Well done Obama.
gnomedad
Good thing Mittens didn’t aid surrender to terror.
Roger Moore
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yeah, just think about how much vital information we could have squeezed out of him with the right
tortureenhanced interrogation techniques. Killing him was a clever move by terrorist Obama to protect his allies in al Qaeda from Osama spilling the beans.PeakVT
Live feed.
MikeJ
@Fallsroad:
Abbottābad is in the Khyber province, as in the Khyber pass.
BTW, #6 above is a troll, not me.
sloan
Fuck yeah. Every minute of that day is burned in my brain. Fuck bin Laden.
smith
@Comrade Luke:
Sadly, you’re probably right. That will probably be the right-wing meme tomorrow. That it was all Petraeus and not Obama. Sigh.
nwithers
The cherry on top? Today is the eight year anniversary of the “Mission accomplished” speech. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth in Dallas.
Mike G
An actual Mission Accomplished, on the eighth anniversary of the Chimp’s swaggering flight-suit Nothing Accomplished.
This is how grown-ups govern — not frat-boy dress-up photo-ops by showboating assholes exploiting aircraft carriers for idiotic political stunts; but quiet, diligent and effective work behind the scenes for years by government employees who value good work over careerism, profit and personal glory.
TooManyPaulWs
The Republicans will claim their tax cuts killed Bin Laden.
Trump will accuse Obama of hiding the death certificate.
Michelle Bachmann will argue that Obama has killed a fellow Muslim just to ensure that death panels will destroy America.
I am not being flippant. The Republican response will clearly be flippant because they will be terrified that this will hurt their election efforts… because they can’t paint Obama as weak on terror.
Citizen_X
Damn. If I wasn’t in the middle of the city, I’d empty a whole clip into the air. I’m not joking.
Martin
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
Why do you hate Illinois state senators so much?
ChrisB
Abbotabad, Pakistan, that’s where he was found, is not in the Afghan border region. It’s well east of Peshawar, north of Rawalpindi.
Fallsroad
@MikeJ:
All the networks prior to the address were explicitly reporting it as “a mansion just outside Islamabad.”
Odd that all of them were being fed the same wrong information. MSM roolz!
Thanks for the correction.
May I please have another? :)
kindness
I wish I could predict the Lotto as easily. Just saw this over at RedState’s thread about bin Laden’s death:
Bob Loblaw
It’s a sign of strange times that killing one criminal half the world away is apparently a sign of our national greatness and unity of purpose.
Hoya
The Special Forces team that took him out, first round on me fellas.
Bootlegger
OBL has been dead for a year and they were just waiting for the right time to use his body to cover up the fake birth certificate…or so my tea party dad says.
MikeJ
@Citizen_X: I’ve already been yelling Obama akabar.
Hell, I’m less than a mile from the beach, but I only have shotguns. Not much good for celebratory fire.
RinaX
Damn it, I just can’t stop being petty and partisan. Hahahahaha poor TeaPublicanWingnut fuckers, eat that shit, lick it up, bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!111!1!!
hilts
Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Mark Levin will demand to know why Bin Laden wasn’t read Mirandized.
burnspbesq
@Steve:
Abso-by-God-lutely.
TooManyPaulWs
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
Um, you had a picture of a then-obscure state senator from Illinois on a dartboard in Maryland…?
This is the problem with Obama being President. It’s just one letter off from Osama. Sigh.
hilts
Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Mark Levin will demand to know why Bin Laden wasn’t Mirandized.
TooManyPaulWs
@Bootlegger:
Wow. The turnaround time on that was near-instantanous. I figured they wouldn’t be spinning the conspiracy until they got the go ahead from Roger Ailes…
burnspbesq
Someone I’ve never heard of apparently tweeted that we got bin Laden at a Royal-Wedding-watching party. Almost certainly not true, but what a hoot if it were.
handy
@Bootlegger:
Family visits must be awkward at times.
Dave C
Since we have his body, can we please transport it to the WTC site, build a great big pyre and burn his body live on national television? I’m normally not a bloodthirsty person, but fuck, I wanna watch him burn.
Superking
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
hilts
Has Pamela Geller been placed on a suicide watch?
Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity
What is the phrase I’m looking for? Oh, yeah — We got him!
Martin
@Bob Loblaw: Well, the inability of this nation to bring him to justice certainly did put a lie to our sense of exceptionalism.
suzanne
Mission accomplished, BITCHEZZZZ!
Jay in Oregon
@Hoya:
As someone in some thread said somewhere, the man that shot Osama Bin Laden will probably never have to buy another drink in his life.
mmc
I demand to see the long form death certificate!!
And this is the result of Paul Ryan courageously offering his deficit reduction plan anyhow…
Old Dan and Little Ann
@Martin: I am posting within Fox headquarters. All computers automatically make that switch. : )
BOSS BITCH
Obama in 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKHsjRzUTLQ&feature=player_embedded
freelancer
CIA wetwork/Delta/Unit Operators ftmfw!
Villago Delenda Est
I won’t miss this fundie dipshit.
But it really changes very little. His movement will continue. The thousands of new recruits that the deserting coward and the Dark Lord created for him will continue to vex us. Their hatred of our country is strong…as our hatred would be under the same circumstances.
Getting them to turn off the hate is probably as futile as convincing the birfers of Obama’s birthplace.
Good luck with that. We’re fucked.
TooManyPaulWs
@Dave C:
You don’t wanna televise that sh-t. Just have the body autopsied with a discreet video camera, and then bury his bones in an unmarked grave so none of his “fans” worship his corpse.
Bubba Dave
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: WIN.
MikeJ
@Fallsroad:
I’ll add, the town Obama said OBL was killed in, Abbottabad, is 150 km north of Islamabad.
Jay in Oregon
@burnspbesq:
Someone else tweeted that OBL shouldn’t have used his real address for his PlayStation Network ID…
Fred
@Fallsroad: STFU. The town is 150km away from Islamabad. Can’t you stop your fucking “get out of all wars now” Bullshit just this once!
Spaghetti Lee
I gotta figure, the teabag base will go crazy because that’s what they do, but Republicans with half a brain? They’re not going to throw a public temper tantrum about how it’s all a conspiracy and it’s really Bush’s doing, because they know that stuff will turn off independents. So they basically have to give Obama a big, big win. Whoo, glas I’m not them.
Kyle
@Dave C:
Mix it with pig parts then cremate it and dump the ashes in international waters.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
@Sirkowski:
FTW!
hilts
This delusional asshole didn’t miss a beat
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/86899.html
Lono
Here’s the email news alert from my local news-talk radio station:
I kid you not
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Dave C:
or you know, we could be happy he is dead, as unusual as that already is, and not sort of you know make such a thing of it, that it proves what fat delicious targets we really are.
as bad as 9/11 was, the reaction to it was worse, and we did that to ourselves.
soonergrunt
@Roger Moore: And Joe Beese and Uncle Clarence Thomas, and mclaren and…
alwhite
Tonight is the 8th anniversary of CinC L’il Boots playing dress up & standing in front of a banner his White House put up that said “Mission Accomplished”. Irony.
Mnemosyne
I didn’t expect to cry, but I did.
Tim Ferg
I loved how Obama made it perfectly clear in his speech who was responsible for this.
I think he said “I ordered…” twice in the speech.
Hell yes you did Mr. President.
Sarah Proud and Tall
My wingnut meme prediction:
Why, oh why, was Obama laughing it up with the liberal press when brave Americans were risking their lives on a mission to kill Osama bin Laden? Has he no shame?
JPL
How do you criticize this mission? Some will say that we are a target now, but wouldn’t that be the same thing as saying don’t tell anyone I raped you because I’ll harm them?
Debra Burlingame was very gracious. She was not a supporter of Obama but she is very pleased.
Gin & Tonic
@Jay in Oregon: Unfortunately, the man who shot him will never be able to say so. Those are the rules they signed up for.
Hoya
That other noise you heard is the GOP 12 field scrambling to find another line of attack.
Bob Loblaw
@Martin:
Oh, I certainly don’t disagree with the assessment. Just look at those people celebrating outside the White House. It’s apparently a moment of great catharsis and symbolic victory for the nation.
I just think it’s weird how we make supervillains of our enemies and end up losing all sense of proportion.
Fred
On the day of the Mission Accomplished Banner is so fucking sweet I want to cry!
soonergrunt
NOW, we can go home.
@Mnemosyne: I am right now. I don’t think I can stop.
sistermoon
@PanAmerican:
LOL… I thought it was just me. He is definitely slurring his words…
Calouste
@Jay in Oregon:
Will and Kate can put their honeymoon back on the schedule. No one is going to pay attention to them now for the next week or so.
TooManyPaulWs
Here’s the good news about killing Bin Laden:
The psychological effect of losing a political leader, even if Bin Laden’s effectiveness in recruiting had dimmed over the decade, is huge. With him out there, openly mocking U.S. efforts to find him and capture/kill him, Bin Laden was a symbol of defying American “imperial” interests. But now that he’s dead, one less way for Al Qaeda recruiters to claim “Hey, we know what we’re doing” and “Hey, we are winning this war against the West.”
The bad news is, of course, that Al Qaeda or their cohorts in terror are going to want to strike back, somewhere and with enough blood and loss for the world to notice, just to demonstrate that they are still in this.
This, combined with the fact that nations like Tunisia and Egypt were transforming their own politics from popular and relatively non-violent uprisings, has got to hurt Al Qaeda and Middle East terrorism.
Omnes Omnibus
@hilts: I have a good friend from undergrad who now posts Lew Rockwell links on FB all the time. Sad. There are some crazy people out there.
Mnemosyne
@soonergrunt:
You beat me to it.
jonas
Wow.I guess there’ll be a certain amount of closure over this, and I hope he bled to death real slow from a wound to his rectum. Hopefully it will take the wind out of the sails of the international jihad movement…or it will only inspire some other young, rich, Islamist jackass to try to take on the mantle of the late, lamented Great Leader by carrying out a massive terrorist attack on a western target.
JPL
How many of you have tears in your eyes?
burnspbesq
Some things are so, so predictable.
From the story on the front page of the New York Post website:
Jay in Oregon
@Gin & Tonic:
Well, I’m hoisting a glass to him anyways.
General Stuck
Maybe it’s the suddenness of getting such wonderful news, after so many years of it just fading into the background of history. But I am surprised at the way this makes me feel, like a ball of stress was removed, and an opening to at least hope all this crazy war shit will now start to wind itself down. Could just be wishful thinking, but that’s okay, I’m going to run with it for awhile.
Thank you President Obama
And Fuck you Dick and George, you incompetent devils.
now if I can just get this comment to post, it will be cherry on top of a pretty good week.
SIA
@Jay in Oregon: Haha!
Omnes Omnibus
@soonergrunt: Yeah, one notices they aren’t around at the moment.
Ash Can
The big news seems to have fried the circuits here, so I’m trying again to post a comment…
I always figured that ever since the real grownups took over in January 2009, this was a distinct possibility. It should be fun watching right-wingers tomorrow, careening between utter derangement and patently ignoring this story.
RossInDetroit
@burnspbesq:
Who jumped in first with bad information and uninformed speculation. Because of course they did.
PeakVT
Abbottabad.
Sasha
No! You don’t understand! This is all part of Bin Laden’s long-term plan to have his secret apprentice kill him, thereby clearing the way for Obama to institute sharia and a global caliphate!
Spaghetti Lee
Assuming it’s true, I also think there’s something right about him being killed by a soldier, and not a remotely-operated drone.
danimal
It dawns on me that this may be a bookend date. The first bookend being the ruins of the helicopter attack to free the hostages in Iran. That day became a symbol of ineptness, a sign that America needed a change. It was the touchstone that led to the Reagan Revolution. For better or worse (ok, worse), the ascendant GOP brought a change of direction to the country.
Today, the change we were promised can begin. The American people made a change in 2008, but the unfinished business of the Bush years was enormous. Today, we are now able to pivot from the War on Terror and the collapse of the world economy to a different direction for the country. The winds of GOP rage were already tapering, their source will dissipate considerably now. (Cynics, just STFU for a minute, this really is a game-changer.)
While I don’t expect a rapid departure from Iraq and Afghanistan, the impetus for these invasions is gone. The blood and treasure can now be spent on more productive and positive domestic measures. The rebuilding of our nation can begin. The competence of our President and the ascendant Democrats will become a source of pride for most Americans. This is an important day.
Tsulagi
USA! USA!!
Mnemosyne
@alwhite:
Given that it apparently happened at least a week ago and they were waiting for DNA confirmation, I don’t think announcing it today was an accident. Though managing to interrupt the West Coast finale of “Celebrity Apprentice” probably was just a coincidence.
Fred
@hilts: WGAFF!
RossInDetroit
Bush has made a statement.
Mark S.
@hilts:
They certainly think highly of themselves, don’t they?
MikeJ
@Gin & Tonic:
Go to the Vienna Inn, a hot dog stand and spook hangout in Vienna, VA, right across the street from the starbuck’s on Maple street. 14 different people there will tell you they know the guy who did it, and they’ll all name different people.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Bob Loblaw:
We do have a party that has been making a career, and a fortune, from this habit.
Failure, Inc.
I just went and laughed in my Teatard neighbor’s face. I’m now going to call every Republican I know and laugh at them.
Fuck, i9t’s been a long time coming, but this is some
rb
Birthers’ revised position: It took an illegal immigrant to do what “real Americans” could not.
Good luck with that, fuckers.
No one of Importance
@Lono:
He’s not only merely dead, he’s really most sincerely dead.
Dream On
Just words! A cunning ruse to get us away from the birth certificate issue.
SIA
@JPL: No tears in my eyes, but exultation in my heart.
Hoya
I hope the operator who made the shot was from New York. That would be justice.
soonergrunt
@Mnemosyne: The story that they just said was that the operation started a week ago, but the firefight and extraction was today.
Martin
@Bob Loblaw: Gee, I don’t know – OBL had his hand in a lot of bad shit. And OBL has been a very effective figurehead for al Qaeda.
I think the fact that it’s taken so damn long, and has come so unexpectedly (thank you Obama for not doing the tough-guy shit like Bush kept doing) has lent to a big outpouring. Another variable here is that OBL didn’t die in a car accident – we took him out, and quite professionally, from the sound of it.
9/11 was a hell of a shock to a lot of people, even those quite far from NY and DC. This is the bookend to that event. I don’t blame the outpouring. There’s a lot of catharsis around 9/11 needed.
Failure, Inc.
I just went and laughed in my Teatard neighbor’s face. I’m now going to call every Republican I know and laugh at them.
Fuck, it’s been a long time coming, but this is some MOTHERUFUCKING SCHADENFRUDE, and I’m going to milk this like a fucking cow.
freelancer
@JPL:
Watching the gathering in DC across from the White House, I’m feeling moved. How much did this nation need this at this particular moment?
Fred
Seems the early line of attack is that Obama is trying to take too much credit….lol….funny critters those teapublicans.
CaseyL
I’m watching more and more people arrive at the WH lawn to cheer. It’s almost worth listening to the commentary descending quickly into meaningless drivel.
Roger Moore
@TooManyPaulWs:
Blargh. Al Qaeda has been attacking us for well over a decade. They were sufficiently motivated to blow up the fucking World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The thing that’s holding them back is means, not motivation.
robertdsc-PowerBook
Just glad that bitch is dead.
Cliff in NH
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
And this stupid blond on Bloombergtv just called Obama Osama at the intro and exit of Obamas statement…
Redshift
@danimal: I really hope you’re right.
Omnes Omnibus
@RossInDetroit: He probably was raised to write thank you notes. Really, it was a good statement and the decent thing to do. Let’s see if anyone else can bring themselves to do it.
SIA
Well. I’m just glad Obama got off the basketball court to get something done. Harumph. (Actual quote from Le Donald)
trollhattan
Good. Eat a bag of 72 salted dicks in hell every day from here ’til the sun swallows the earth, you twisted bastard.
A good start to the week. Can we bring our troops home now, please?
PeakVT
LoL. BBC WS (which has a Roloxdex that leans right) just Frank Gaffney on, and boy did he sound grumpy. Suck on it, wingtards.
Linnaeus
@JPL:
Honestly, I don’t. Which isn’t to say that I don’t think the world’s better off without him – it is. It’s more like a breath I’ve been wanting to exhale for years, after the wars and the politics all done for the sake of the “war on terror”. It’s a threat that won’t go away, to be sure, but I look forward to moving towards another path.
eemom
I’m sorry, did I miss the due process wherein OBL was duly convicted beyond a reasonable doubt of being the 9-11 mastermind? You know, that which that OBL-wannabe in Yemen was so egregiously denied, thereby making Obama the Rule of Law Killer In Chief?
Oh RIGHT — OBL wasn’t an American CITIZEN. Never mind.
burnspbesq
And George W. Bush has the balls to say, “No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.”
Tell that to the families of the Guantanamo and Bagram detainees, you little shit.
freelancer
This made me laugh my ass off. Brilliant.
andy
On September 11 we found ourselves in a situation where we had to go to war with the President we had, not the President we needed.
Now, finally, our big symbolic enemy is dead. Maybe it’ll give some people a little emotional space to finally calm the fuck down. Hell, maybe we can even demobilize a little faster- Reason knows we could really use a Peace Dividend right about now…
RossInDetroit
@burnspbesq:
Indeed. Justice delayed is justice denied. This is sweet but OBL never should have made it out of Tora Bora alive.
mantis
Just took a tour around the asylum. The wingnuts are taking this opportunity to, you guessed it, attack President Obama. I know, I’m as shocked as you.
lacp
Another disgusting attempt by the Islamomarxist Kenyan to make Tea Partiers look bad, asking his terrorist pal OBL to eat a bullet just for political purposes…
GregB
The week that was.
Trump takes credit for finding Obama’s birth certificate.
President Obama takes credit for finding Osama Bin Laden.
forked tongue
“Bin Laden-Killing President Barack Obama.” I like the sound of that.
Matt McIrvin
Yeah, I saw it via Google News while I was waiting for the speech–Fox said he’d been bombed, which was completely false.
Cliff in NH
@Cliff in NH:
At least she got it right on the second repeat… least she learned…
srv
Here’s the pic for ya.
cthulhu
DirecTV is running Al Jazeera English on channel 375 and, again, probably the best coverage as to what this all really means with far more worldwide reaction. And, of course there is a live feed on AJE’s website.
Xantar
Here’s one for the winngers.
MikeJ
@mantis:
Are you talking about freerepublic or firedoglake?
The Populist
@jk:
Here in Los Angeles Channels 11 & 13 did not got to news coverage. Both are owned by Fox. Weird as FNC was in full coverage mode. Fair and balanced!
Dennis SGMM
Obama really does owe Bush a debt of gratitude; had Bush not sat with his thumb up his ass after the CIA warned him that “Bin Laden determined to strike in US,” then we never would have been aware of the threat posed by OBL.
Om the other hand, bin Laden hasn’t been much more than a figurehead for years. In that time Al Qaeda has become a franchise. The terrorists will celebrate him as a martyr. We have, at least, moved up to killing the #1 in AQ. Our grandchildren will still be killing AQ’s #1 long after we’re all pushing up daisies.
ppcli
@RossInDetroit: Bush was a horrible excuse for a president, but he’s actually been a pretty fine ex-president.
danimal
@eemom:
I think it’s safe to say that OBL is responsible. Link.
josefina
@handy:
In certain circumstances, family visits are awkward at all times.
mai naem
I guess this is about when Osama finds out that he didn’t learn his Arabic well at all and that they weren’t talking about 72 virgins but 72 grapes.
JPL
@GregB: Nice!!!!!
rb
@eemom: Frankly I’d have preferred extraction and trial, but this will do in a pinch.
kimp
I agree with IM. While this is fantastic news, the fact he was in a MANSION in Pakistan, ( a nation that we have given BILLIONS of dollars to, to help find him and combat him and his followers) does not bode well for our future relationship with that particular country.
burnspbesq
@eemom:
You’re lying in bed with Joe Beese at the Key Bridge Marriott, and he dictated that comment to you, right?
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Fred: He landed a plane on an aircraft carrier?
Spaghetti Lee
Reposting an old classic: http://peterjsullivan.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/gop_tears.jpg
The Populist
@Dennis SGMM:
This and we need to focus now on catching Al-Zawahiri.
Citizen_X
@Xantar: Awesome. And here’s an oldie but goodie.
Viva BrisVegas
Just a thought, had OBL been captured alive would the Republicans have suddenly found the bravery to actually try him in a US court?
Another thought, just how long will Obama keep having to clean up after W?
Last thought, keep killing the motherfuckers.
MikeJ
BTW, are the freepers complaining about the way Obama pronounces Pakistan yet?
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
According to GOS, they compound he was killed at was some 8 times larger than surrounding mansions. It was demolished by explosives – the survivors of the raid were removed earlier – before the strike team left. I wonder if they salted the ground as well?
Roger Moore
@eemom:
I guess the CIA should have walked up, knocked on the door, and asked him to come along quietly.
burnspbesq
@rb:
If someone uses deadly force to resist arrest, shit happens.
Redshift
@Dennis SGMM:
Er, that’s not even close to correct. The Clinton administration knew of the threat, and launched attacks to try to take him out, which Republicans declared were “wag the dog” attempts to distract from Whitewater. Al-qaeda was the major reason why they told the Bush transition team that terrorism should be their major national security focus, which they deliberately ignored.
We owe Bush nothing but curses and a blackened name.
Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people)
@PeakVT: Thanks for that map. It’s relatively close to the Afghan border and not “just outside Islamabad” as I heard in some of the initial news reports.
Dream On
Does this mean I can keep my shoes on at airport scanners now? Seriously.
ChrisB
I like the “Hey, hey hey, Goodbye” chants outside the White House.
GregB
So, will anyone in the media put two and two together that while President Obama was releasing his birth certificate to placate the loony birthers that he had ordered this Bin Laden action.
This is where much of the GOP enters an existential crisis. They know nothing but scorn and ridicule and that won’t fly for a bit now.
Joe Beese
One killer of thousands of civilians meets justice.
Another remains at large.
And as long as his drone bombers continue to mutilate the bodies of Muslim children, the bitch that bore bin Laden will remain in heat.
guachi
I’m hoping the SEAL team that killed him was Team One because I deployed with them to Iraq in ’09-’10. It’d be pretty cool to say I know the people that killed Bin Laden.
freelancer
Obama’s 2011 State of the Union: “We Do Big Things“.
Fuck yeah, we did.
Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity
Brian Williams just reported, “We know a man is dead, a man with blood on his hands, a man responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans,” and my first thought was, “Is Cheney dead, too?!?”
gwangung
@ChrisB:
Same here. Much better than “U-S-A”. They should go to “Another One Bites the Dust..
@Joe Beese: Fuck you.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Joe Beese: Had to be subtle in your attack on Obama tonight, didn’t you?
rb
@burnspbesq: Agree!
That said, my suspicion is that this operation was green lit to go lethal basically from the get go. If that was the choice b/c extraction would have been too risky in terms of bloodshed or risk of failure, I am happy with the result.
But in a better world he is standing trial in NYC.
Dennis G.
This is great news and it should have happened years ago, but Bush had other priorities.
Now I wonder how long it will be before the first wingnut starts to complain about the danger President Obama has exposed the US homeland to by killing bin Laden. This should make the freakout over closing Gitmo look like a dry run…
Roger Moore
@GregB:
They don’t even know how to shut up for a while. The correct strategy is to give a few golf claps, do your best to minimize the importance of bin Laden, and go back to the attacks in a week or two. Instead, the wingnuts will flail around like madmen trying to win each and every 24 hour news cycle.
freelancer
@guachi:
Twitter is saying Team Six.
Sasha
“Sorry it took so long to get a copy of my birth certificate. I was too busy killing Osama bin Laden.”
RinaX
President Obama’s speech being replayed on CSpan now.
Mermie
OK, this is hilarious. The crew on Fox is damn near suicidal. They do not like this news at all.
Tom
(Finally! getting onto the site was harder than getting into an Irish Pub at 9:30 on St Patty’s Day)
I’m glad he’s dead. Taking him alive and putting him on trial would have been just ugly, from all sides.
I’m waiting for someone to take Obama’s announcement, and add the theme from Shaft. (need to fill the long walk to and from the podium with something)
Jay C
Heh – grousing about the media coverage of Pres. Obama’s announcement is pretty dumb – everyone had an hour to kill to have to fill with on-air chatter – probably because Barack was finishing off his notes (he reportedly writes all his own important speeches; which, contrasted with his seemingly semiliterate predecessor is amazing) – but it’s unlikely we’ll be getting ALL the details on this operation anytime soon. Not when the Paks are involved, as they certainly HAVE to be.
Oh, and if they have wi-fi in Hell, a little greeting for our old pal Osama:
Fry painfully for eternity, you murderous motherfucker! Good riddance!
handy
@eemom:
SpecOps usually aren’t briefed to read their targets Miranda rights.
eemom
@burnspbesq:
um, subtlety challenged much?
Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people)
Interesting note on NBC – the US noticed that every time it notified the Pakistani authorities about a planned strike on a suspected Al Qaeda compound, the occupants would get out/flee just before the strike, leading them to believe that there was some collaboration between elements of the Pakistani intelligence service and Al Qaeda. This time they chose to notify Pakistan after the fact.
Sloegin
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: You are my King of Snark today
Dr. Morpheus
@eemom:
You mean other than the confession that bin Laden made publicly after 9/11 in a video tape?
Uloborus
@eemom:
Incidentally, are you aware that it is legally possible to forfeit your right to fair trial? That you do this by deliberately making it impossible for you to be brought to trial? That a court can order this – and did in the case of said Yemeni guy?
Fred
@Petorado: I thought all 4 of those groups were pretty much the same thing.
eemom
@danimal:
sorry, but if “safe to say” ain’t good enough for Bradley Manning, it shouldn’t be good enough for anybody else.
Unless, of course, there’s a double standard for human beings who are not Americans. Perish the thought.
Fallsroad
@Fred:
Pretty sure you’ve never seen me say that anywhere.
The Islamabad thing came courtesy of your multimillionaire friends in the broadcast media, prior to the President making his announcement.
Relax. Pop a beer, kick back, and rejoice.
The witch is dead.
Ding dong!
Fred
@Petorado: I thought all 4 of those groups were pretty much the same thing.@Sasha: I like it!
PeakVT
@Felanius Kootea: It looks like its about 35 air miles from Islamabad, and about 120 miles from the Afghanistan border crossing on the Jalalabad road. I think the most important thing that can be said as of now is that it’s not in the “tribal areas” where bin Laden had been speculated to be for a long time.
ABL
DC is going bananas right now. People honking, cheering, singing, and pouring into the streets.
gwangung
@Felanius Kootea (formerly Salt and freshly ground black people):
I will believe, with all my heart, that the US knew this was happening and deliberately chose not to change this…until now. When it counted. And when they have a good idea of exactly WHERE the collaborators are.
FlipYrWhig
Listening to Wolf Blitzer and John King completely flail around for an hour trying to find new ways to say “This is a big fucking deal” kind of blunted the experience for me.
Cain
There is no need to attack eemom, a fair trial is the very heart of what makes us great. We should have the chance of giving it to him as a gesture of our greatness.
MikeJ
Tribune.com.pk (pakistani media) thrilled that US acknowledges help from Pakistan, glad to see him gone.
And a tune for bin Laden.
Poopyman
It’s easy enough to find Abbottabad by searching Google Maps, but it ain’t exactly a one–goat town.
My money’s on some place right close to the Abbottabad Golf Club as his hideout. And that link points you to lots of interesting factoids about the town. Like, it has something like 6 medical schools. Granted, none probably come close to Johns Hopkins, but it must sure be a nice place for somebody with bad kidneys.
And how come no one has made the joke about the US first having looked in Costellobad?
Joe Beese
Tonight is no different than last night. Obama was a war criminal then and he’s a war criminal now.
But look on the bright side. At least no one tomorrow will be talking about the attempted assassination of Gaddafi that killed three of his grandchildren.
MattR
@ABL: From a reader’s letter to TPM
Suffern ACE
@Cain: When al-Awlaki turns himself in, I will donate to his defense fund. Perhaps he should do that and stop recruiting young men to give their lives up on his behalf.
Dennis SGMM
Isn’t this a bit like killing Hitler in, say, 1956?
gwangung
Noted on facebook:
Poopyman
–From http://www.theabbottabad.com/index.aspx
Greyjoy
You know, I’m fine with Bush’s remarks. I thought he was gracious and gave credit exactly where it was due. I agree with whoever said he’s been a decent ex-president. And I say that as someone who despised Bush. Nothing like a big huge IN YOUR FACE BITCH to make me feel magnanimous, I guess. And yeah, Obama’s going to get so much mileage out of this, they’ll need the Hubble telescope to see the end of it.
fasteddie9318
Why does Brian Williams think that killing some terrorists is Very Serious Presidential Business in a way that, say, getting a health care reform bill passed was not? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad bin Laden is dead, but why oh why can’t we have a better media?
fasteddie9318
Why does Brian Williams think that killing some terrorists is Very Serious Presidential Business in a way that, say, getting a health care reform bill passed was not? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad bin Laden is dead, but why oh why can’t we have a better media?
Dream On
@Dennis SGMM: Better late then never. We’re only bankrupting ourself being involved in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, Iran and – doh!
MikeJ
@Dennis SGMM:
If Hitler were alive in ’56 and you had the shot, wouldn’t you take it?
PurpleGirl
@No one of Importance: This made me laugh. Good choice of phrase.
eemom
look, dumbasses, I’m as glad as anybody else that OBL is dead.
I’m just trying to point out a few ideological inconsistencies that should be readily obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
Then again, I’m assuming that such is possessed by the many assholes on this blog who were up in arms over the guy in Yemen and/or Bradley Manning.
My fucking “bad.”
sven
Someone has probably been saying this but how long until we get an “Osama Truthers” movement?
The
birthersOsama Truthers remind me of Dave Chappelle during jury selection…Dennis SGMM
@MikeJ:
No. I’d call the FBI and have him arrested.
SST
@fasteddie9318: Why does fasteddie think his comments are so good that he posts them twice?
/ ducks
MattR
@eemom: You assume the objection to killing Al-Awlaki is a moral one. It is possible to think it is morally acceptable to kill both OBL and Al-Awlaki and also believe that we are constrained from killing the latter by the United States Consitution (which means that we don’t get to do it even if we have a really good reason this time)
piratedan
@Sasha: or as the wingnuts will interpret it, there can only be one Sith lord, a Master and an Apprentice.
Jess
Love the 3-part jujitsu take down by Obama:
1) Release long-form birth-certificate while mocking the small-minded silliness that demanded it,
2) Paint clown faces on the birthers and other critics at the correspondents’ dinner,
3) Kill enemy #1,
and, finally,
4) Profit!!!
PurpleGirl
@MattR: Wow! I know Cold Spring and the distance across the Hudson to West Point, which is also on a cliff top. That was some noise.
burnspbesq
@rb:
“But in a better world he is standing trial in NYC.”
No shit.
Mnemosyne
@Joe Beese:
It’s a good thing that Osama bin Laden had absolutely nothing to do with our reasons for invading Afghanistan. Nope, Osama was nowhere near Afghanistan when Barack Obama decided in 2001 to start bombing children for no reason at all.
So is this kind of logic the result of a major head trauma, or a self-lobotomy?
Maurice Washington
I can’t sleep. I might be up all night!!!
Cliff in NH
@Jess:
4) Take down silver speculators by having CFTC raise margins significantly
5) Profit
MikeJ
@Dennis SGMM: The FBI doesn’t have jurisdiction outside the US. Local cops are likely to be on his payroll. The options are take the shot or let him go.
Basilisc
“Obviously he’s just trying to divert attention from the renewed questions that are being raised about his birth certificate and college career.” /peak wingnut
opie_jeanne
@No one of Importance: I am hearing in the back of my head, that one song from “Scrooge” the musical: “Thank you very much! Thank you very much! That’s the nicest thing that anyone’s ever done for me!”
It’s sung in celebration of the death of Scrooge.
Brandon K
Roger Moore,
Is your life really that pathetic? Dude, wake up tomorrow, look in the mirror, and repeat your posts. People like you are no different than the crazy’s in some of these other countries. Rog…I’m not a DEM or REP…just a person with some common sense. People like you are the reason political parties hurt out country. Get a life dude. You and Sean Hannity should get a room. Great day for the USA.
Joe Beese
taylor
For people to say yes already with out seeing the proof seems pretty gullible, has it ever been taught to u to never believe what u see on television.. It could be true but doesn’t it amaze u that they have been looking for osama bin laden for 10 years and couldn’t find him.. And out of the blue he’s dead?.. It doesn’t feel right let alone that but when they captured sadam hussen and excuted him it was showen on cnn right away as well the after photo of his dead body to prove it.. So if the u.s. Has Osama’s body then why did they not show it to us?… That is the question so then till then don’t believe in anything till its proven so I still believe osama’s still alive. Open ur eyes and read what is truth.
Roger Moore
@Brandon K:
Dude, that’s called “snark”. Look it up some time. The [/wingnut] tag should have clued you in.
Uriel
@trollhattan: Ok, this is just a point of minor curiosity, but I have to ask- are salted dicks supposed to be better, or worse than your garden variety unsalted dicks? Seems like the answer is, obviously, worse, but i have no idea why. I mean, clearly they’re bad in a heart-healthy sense, but is the big distinction here a tase thing? Or does the salt somehow add to the humiliation?
Just always been curious ’bout that…
Asshole
The saddest part about this story now is that Osama Bin Laden will get a decent Islamic funeral while the bodies of half of his WTC victims can’t even be identified with modern DNA testing.
@Joe Beese:
Obama didn’t come within an inch of killing my sister, such that she lost her fingertips pulling herself out of his attempted murder. Obama didn’t order attacks that got kids from my high school killed. Obama didn’t have the throat of a guy whose kids used to play with one of my friends slit before having the plane that guy was flying flown into a building full of thousands of innocent people. Osama Bin Laden did all that. Fuck him, and fuck you.
Mnemosyne
@Joe Beese:
Yes, I can’t imagine why the president didn’t immediately announce that capturing or killing Bin Laden was their top priority. It’s almost like they were concerned he would escape again or something.
Tell you what, Joe, next time there’s a super-secret security mission happening, we’ll send the president over to your house to discuss it with you personally.
That’s right, no civilians were killed by American armed forces in Afghanistan until 2008 when Barack Obama marched in there and opened fire. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
So is there anything at all that you don’t think is Obama’s fault? Global warming? Collapsing black holes? Starbucks gave you a cold cup of coffee? Anything?
The Populist
@taylor:
Seems wrong to go on tv and do something that would blow back on Obama and label him a liar for all to see.
Please…seems Pakistan agrees with this. Are you glad this happened or are you going to spout the nonsense rightie blogs keep spouting.
Fact: Obama has A LOT TO LOSE if he is making this shit up. Obama can be viewed as many things but he is deliberate and thought out.
This story has been fleshed out in a way that seems to back up everything being sold to us. For you to say this is your right, but I laugh that at this or else why couldn’t Bush say this and pretend he’s dead? Please…
soonergrunt
@taylor: concern troll is concerned.
Stupid, too.
soonergrunt +10 and out
The Populist
@Mnemosyne:
This. If Obama says anything of the kind, he’s attacked. He kept this until he had the proof he needed.
The logic in saying Obama is as bad as Bush kills me. It just does. Obama didn’t lie to start a war nor did he ignore warnings that Bin Laden was going to attack the USA.
The Populist
@sven:
I dare the right and Trump to act out on this. I am certain the man’s photos will be circulated at a point to show his followers it’s true.
America will turn on the GOP if they insist on this line of attack. They should come together (like they demanded of us during their lie of a war) because THIS is a good thing.
johnny walker
Anyone know how to do the rhetorical version of the heimlich maneuver? Because I’m about to choke to death on the self-righteousness of all these “I think about politics a couple times a month” mofos on my facebook feed who just remembered how deep and true their patriotism is. They know what this situation calls for, and oddly enough it’s the same thing every situation calls for: pictures of them smoking and drinking things. Only this time everything’s tagged “Victory.” Victory shots! Victory cigars! Victory bonghits! Wait, what did we win, again?
It’s great that Al-Qaeda’s press secretary is dead and all, but people need to get the fuck over themselves. Like the big crowd that gathered outside the WH… oh, neat! Then CSPAN gets in close to interview some of them, and it’s all “I’m so and so, we came out from Georgetown because we’re SO STOKED! WOOOO!” and I remember that, oh right, this is like a football game to them, and they’re just looking to associate with a ‘winner.’ We don’t know how to deal with a situation like this, but we know how to get drunk and post pictures of ourselves being assholes to facebook. When all you have is a hammered…
billy rae valentine
@Bootlegger:
yeah i have a libertarian “friend” who commented on my facebook announcement about the killing of osama
“Perfect timing to get people off his ass about his birth cert” and then he came back to add: “Also, perfect timing since his re-election campaign starts soon.”
and on his own page he made sure to post a link to a ron paul 2012 story or ad or something. he just couldn’t resist a childish, emotional snark-comment because he hates that Obama succeeded.
i can’t wait for sarah “the real victim here is donald trump” palin to bring the true hateful snark i need.
The Populist
Fact: The right should just concede in 2012. Obama has won and will now have many more on his side after today.
All the concern trolls here’s a question: Why is it Bush let Osama get out of Tora Bora when it was FACT and PROVEN he could have been captured or killed? Hmmmm….wanna debate that one for us?
Uriel
@taylor: Yes, that. Whatever the hell it is you imagine you’re communicating with this word salad. I support the efforts of the insane to direct our public policy.
The Populist
@johnny walker:
Welcome to America. This is an expected development simply because Osama hurt this country. Maybe HE didn’t do it himself, but he admitted to planning it.
The Populist
@billy rae valentine:
I had that but I had many more who made jokes about the righties who demand his birth cert. Those that made the jokes are people who aren’t fans of Obama either. Interesting development in my opinion.
johnny walker
Indications from the Facebook and Twitter seem to be that the gathering rightwing meme on this is “Obama is arrogant and made the speech about himself by saying ‘I’ too much.”
Mnemosyne
@johnny walker:
Colin Hanks probably had the best comment about that:
The Populist
@fasteddie9318:
Again, we won’t win this argument NOW. I had a friend who told me Romney is the only GOP’er who can beat Obama, even after today. I laughed and asked him that a MORMON is viewed with just as much contempt by the village as our supposedly muslim Prez.
I also asked him how he will feel when Obama thanks Romney in the debates for giving him the inspiration for health care reform since much of his HCR is modeled after MA’s.
The Populist
@johnny walker:
Yet Bush saying Mission Accomplished wasn’t either arrogant OR self centered?
MattR
@The Populist: And the vast majority of those out celebrating are college age kids who were 8-15 years old on 9/11. Seems reasonable for them to overreact for a bit. The media, on the other hand, …
The Populist
@The Populist:
Yet telling America that you are the decider in chief and that polls don’t matter is not arrogant?
How about when Bush talked about how he always made decisions from HIS gut? Is that not an I moment?
How about when Bush talks about being commander in chief? Is that not an I moment?
The Populist
@MattR:
Agreed and the fact these kids might get motivated to make sure Dems win more elections, I am okay with over-exuberance.
As for the media…I have to say they’ve been behaved and not analyzing into the President’s speech as his “I” moment.
The Populist
In the end the people chanting USA are doing what people do when an enemy is disposed of. I can’t hate on it.
I do hate on the righties pissing on this happy moment.
The Populist
If this moment gives Obama a little more political cache, I can’t hate on that either.
Roger Moore
@The Populist:
No, no, Bush didn’t put up that sign. It was a spontaneous move by the sailors on the ship and wasn’t coordinated with Bush’s press people in any way, shape, or form. And it was totally beyond his control that it was right behind him when he was giving his speech, so that everybody thought it was him but it was really the sailors’ idea.
MattR
@The Populist: They have been good about staying away from too much political analysis but they have been taking a bit too much enjoyment in the whole thing. It kinda feels like it is porn to them.
johnny walker
@Mnemosyne: Ha, that’s a good one. I keep going back to some imagery Cole posted once about a giant foam USA #1 finger. The whole thing just feels scripted. Not like, “oh my god, this is staged!” but more that people don’t know how to react to this so the victory thing just kinda gloms onto the first “celebrate a special occasion” script their brain hands them, and they all do what they figure they’re supposed to. I do wonder how many people are sitting there going way overboard hamming it up because they’re worried someone else will realize they’re not actually as fired up over this as they’re playing it up to be. There have to be a few.
I feel like such a cynical prick. A terrible dude got killed and people are happy. Oh the horror! It’s the canned self-righteousness that gets me. Well, that and the fact that people could be donating to some veteran group or etc. rather than buying $5 “Victory Shots.”
johnny walker
Oh man. I just realized that the likelihood of waking up tomorrow to somebody comparing this to VJ Day has to be very close to 1. I may need a few victory shots myself.
Spaghetti Lee
To the people criticizing people acting like they’re “on a team”, I’m wondering what your preferred reaction or model of citizenship would be. Honestly curious.
MikeJ
@johnny walker:
They could have donated to charity yesterday too, but they didn’t. They could have also foregone xmas and donated all their prezzies to veterans, but they didn’t.
There’s no harm in being happy about something. Don’t be such a prick about it. Let people be happy when something good happens.
Roger Moore
@johnny walker:
I think the thing that gets me is that many of the people who are making a big deal about celebrating today weren’t thinking about the war yesterday and will probably go back to forgetting about it in a week or two when some other big item takes over the news. Our people are over there fighting and dying every day, but most of the country can comfortably ignore it except for the biggest events. There’s something deeply disturbing about that. A war should be a big deal, not something you can ignore as irrelevant to your life.
joel hanes
@Cain:
this.
I hope our leaders have the good sense and greatness of spirit to respect Muslim sensibilities in the treatment of the corpse.
This is not a hope that we treat this dead mass murderer as an honored and respected foe, because he was no such thing — but a (slender) hope that we can refrain from deliberate barbarity, because we should be better than that, and because defiling OBL’s corpse after death is much the same as publicly burning a Quran — nearly guaranteed to fan the flames of jihad.
MattR
@joel hanes: I just heard a report that plans are to bury his body at sea to prevent the burial site from becoming a “holy” site for his followers. But they also made clear that it would be treated according to Muslim traditions (though I expect there will still be rumors spread in the Muslim world no matter what we do)
Roger Moore
@joel hanes:
They’ve already made a point that they’re doing just that, which shows that somebody knows WTF they’re doing.
AxelFoley
@Tom:
ROFLMMFBAO!!!!
ChrisZ
@MattR:
CNN is reporting that the body has already been buried at sea.
AxelFoley
@gwangung:
Can’t breathe…laughing…so hard…
johnny walker
@MikeJ: I hear you, but all the same you snipped off a pretty important bit of context there. I’m referring mainly to people I know personally, who are on my Facebook and whatever other crap hamming it up about how patriotic they just remembered they are. These are the same people that give me the “pffft, this crap again” treatment over anything political in the day-to-day. So yeah, people should be happy, people should celebrate. It’s the part where throwing on an Osama’s Dead House Mix, cranking the bass, and posting pics of Victory Shots for everyone to see makes you a better patriot and a true adult. More importantly, doing this shit also seems to act as a stand-in for one’s contribution to the cause, their portion of shared sacrifice and so on. That’s what I mean by canned self-righteousness.
Then tomorrow it’ll all be gone again. It’s along the lines of what @Roger Moore was saying in 269.
AxelFoley
Can someone tell me why Joe Beese is still allowed to push his bullshit here?
Yutsano
@AxelFoley: Give it time. He’ll eventually say something stupid enough to get his tuchas kicked off here. Patience of tiger is wise approach.
Calouste
@Dennis SGMM:
Getting Eichmann in 1961 was still a big deal.
Heck, finding the dead body of Mengele in 1985, 6 years after he died, was still a big deal.
johnny walker
@Spaghetti Lee: I’d want them to be consistent. I’m a longtime Green Bay Packer fan. Suddenly there are a lot of new Packer truck decals, hats, shirts, etc. being rocked in my (small coastal California) town after GB won the latest Super Bowl. As soon as some other team gets hot, the GB gear will get stashed in the closet. They aren’t Packer fans, they’re just responding to a cue. Everyone loves a winner! etc.
Same issue politically. We’re talking people that don’t have any sort of coherent worldview. Completely reactionary, and most of the time can’t be assed to follow current events. I know these people day-to-day and I can assure you that a terrorist attack is not high on their list of concerns. Then we catch bin Laden, and suddenly they’re supreme uberpatriots. In a life that’s otherwise unaffected by the fighting that our troops are doing and the pain and loss that people experienced on 9/11, they pull patriotism and involvement and “9/11 changed everything” and etc. outt’ve the closet for special occasions. Given the right cue they’re extremely patriotic… for a week or two.
I have a problem with the idea that posting pics of yourself doing “Victory Shots” to Facebook constitutes supporting the troops or sharing sacrifice. If there’s a way to frame what they were going to do anyway (taking pics of themselves getting fucked up) as patriotic involvement, they’re all for it. But that’s where it ends. Given the phone number to the Whitehouse and the Congressional switchboard, for instance, none of the particular group of people I’m referring to was willing to call and demand better pay for troops.
Kobie
@The Populist:
Nobody saw J.D. Salinger for 40 years, and we believed it when we were told he was dead.
Kobie
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: +1
DB
@Petorado: Too bad Obama didn’t promise to kill Usama. It would have been a rare promise he kept. The mission was to kill not capture. I mean what would we do with him alive. Guantanamo was closed a year after he took office. Oh yeah. Well we could have watched caged up on CSPAN.We never got to watch the looters do thier stuff. That was my favorite Obama speech. They should bury that piece of shit in a treatment plant. So he’d smell nice for the 72 virgins. Imagine being the guy that pulled the trigger. He probably can’t tell anyone. I hear Bin Ladin will be burried at sea with MSNBC. That’s not fair Usama doesn’t have the practice of sinking like MSLSD.
DB
@Roger Moore: You think he was coming out peacfully. You wanna buy some real estate/like anywhere?
Hey if your a surfer are you nuts because you believe in waves?
DB
@Joe Beese: You don’t know the difference between a turd and a Baby Ruth. That must be nasty half the time.
Uloborus
@eemom:
I apologize, but the sad fact is that /snark is largely impossible when people like Joe Beese think civilian collateral damage (a constant I am not fond of in all wars everywhere in all of history) is the definition of ‘war criminal’. No one can ever be sure if you mean it.
joseph
@Uloborus:
if you had 4 children murdered by a drone would you think of as collateral damage?
it is easy to be “serious” when it some brown person’s kids two continents away.
xian
is eemom some kind of puma?
Johnny
@sistermoon: Obama did nothing you dumbass. He sits on his ass all day while our military is out risking and giving their lives for idiots like you who sit on your butt all day and live off of the Presidents wellfare system. The Navy killed Bin Laden not Obama. If any credit is do it should be given to Bush for having those terrorists tortured in Git Mo because that is where this information came from. Get your facts strait you dumb peace of monkey crap!
billy rae valentine
oh and a lot of the libertarians are saying stuff like:
osama’s been dead since 2007.
we kept the bodfy frozen so obama could break it out when he needed political capital.
we are all brainwashed idiots to think this is real.
we trained osama; he’s our pawn. i’m guessing somehow obama trained osama back when he was a college professor? idk somehow obama is in on the fix.
we will stay in afghanistan for the lithium.
obama is taking ALL the credit. (this is provably false; how lazy. the transcripts are available and they are showing his speech constantly).
i just don’t see how ron paul people don’t see their own hypocrisy. so i’m a big dummy for believing obama was special and different; that he was gonna be the politician to change things. but then they turn around and have the exact same excitement for their OWN little messiah. so how come THEY are so right to have faith, so smart, but i was an idiot?
fasteddie9318
@SST: Because my iPad, to which I am totally addicted, sucks!
That one dude
wooo obama bin ladin is dead! Oops I mean osama bin ladin… Hell fuck em both, theyre both terrorists!
96horsecrazy
@billy rae valentine
“oh and a lot of the libertarians are saying stuff like:
osama’s been dead since 2007.
we kept the bodfy frozen so obama could break it out when he needed political capital.
we are all brainwashed idiots to think this is real.
we trained osama; he’s our pawn. i’m guessing somehow obama trained osama back when he was a college professor? idk somehow obama is in on the fix.
we will stay in afghanistan for the lithium.
obama is taking ALL the credit. (this is provably false; how lazy. the transcripts are available and they are showing his speech constantly).
i just don’t see how ron paul people don’t see their own hypocrisy. so i’m a big dummy for believing obama was special and different; that he was gonna be the politician to change things. but then they turn around and have the exact same excitement for their OWN little messiah. so how come THEY are so right to have faith, so smart, but i was an idiot?”
Still trying to defened Bush? pathetic and usless now. pft.
96horsecrazy
@Johnny:
wow. really? typical rebublican…
people wanted to Obama to pull all of our troops out at once and he didnt and now look? of course obama did something! he did in 2 years what bush coulndnt in 7
so you need to get a pooper-scooper and clean yourself up you “stupid piece of monkey crap”
Just another person
I really think its funny how some people are giving obama credit for osama bin ladins death. instead of giving him credit lets give credit to the right person or persons or military men. I highly doubt obama was there during the gun fight so stop giving the president credit and give the credit to our military
johnny walker
@johnny walker: Blech. Well the folks I was referring to yesterday are back on there today posting about how OBL isn’t actually dead, this is the latest BS Obama propaganda operation, etc. Of course they’re trying to split the hair finely enough that they’re simultaneously pasting out their heartfelt praise for the courageous troops that they don’t actually believe killed bin Laden. The suggestions that they take 45 seconds outt’ve their conspiracy circlejerk to demand better troop pay from Congress and the WH was labelled “self-serving.”
Neither the idea that I’m an asshole or that people are by-and-large reactionary morons is new to me, but I would’ve preferred it be the former in this case. I guess not.
Asshole
@Johnny:
Eat a bag of shit and choke on it.
Laura
Obama does NOT get the credit here, you fools! The military, etc….does.
Sarah Proud and Tall
@Laura:
Someone with a brain larger than a pea might suggest, dear, that there is enough credit to go around to everyone involved in a mission like this, particularly to the military who planned and undertook the action and to their commander-in-chief who (with their assistance) finalized and approved the strategy.
Then again, someone with a brain larger than a pea isn’t likely to be a narrow minded, reflexively bigoted cretin.
You did manage to spell all the words correctly, dear, so I suppose you get points for that.
I admit though to be intrigued by that “etc”. Who precisely is contained therein?