Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I swear, each month of 2025 will have its own history degree.

The “burn-it-down” people are good with that until they become part of the kindling.

We will not go back.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!

You are either for trump or for democracy. Pick one.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

Dumb motherfuckers cannot understand a consequence that most 4 year olds have fully sorted out.

These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

In after Baud. Damn.

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

When I was faster i was always behind.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

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  4. 4.

    JoyousMN

    I tweeted this earlier, and wanted to share. (Sorry to self-promote)

    In a poll dated 1/30/2021, 27% of Republicans polled say that George W. Bush was responsible for killing Osama bin Laden, not Barack Obama.

  8. 8.

    bkny

    oh my … i just clicked on the article below that has a photo. whatever style his top is, it’s with spaghetti straps.

    lordy, i bet those arresting officers are still laughing..

  9. 9.

    D0n Camillo

    I’m just glad you got the goat fucking thread off the top of the page.

  10. 10.

    Barb (formerly Gex)

    Grrr. So tired of right wing bullshit. MN Catholic Bishops came out and made some noise in support of the anti-ssm amendment in Minnesota.

    What I don’t understand is that 1) There’s evidence THIS Pope urged cover ups of abuse, 2) 2/3 of all US Bishops participated in cover ups 3) The US Catholics have paid over $3bn in settlements and court costs, 4) They consistently fight against extending the statute of limitations on child abuse and finally 5) receive 67% of their Catholic Charities funds from the feds.

    How the fuck do these guys have so much power and influence? Why are they not being taken care of by their own people? I know most Catholics are not this, but who’s power are they assuming, if not theirs?

    Reverend Wright’s words really resonate today.

  11. 11.

    cathyx

    Well, if a new episode of Chuck starting is all you got, life must be pretty good.

  12. 12.

    lamh34

    Larry O is back on Last Word…so I guess NBC didn’t make him go the way of Keith O…

    Can’t wait to catch Rachel tonight.

    What’s the over/under that Rachel will have on someone who is upset that the JSOC didn’t bring Obama back alive. Which is the shingle some of the lib blogosphere are hanging their hats on a some sortat of way to I don’t really know what.

  13. 13.

    JoyousMN

    @freelancer:

    I just shake my head at some of the craziness. Unfortunately, this didn’t seem any more ridiculous than what they say now.

  14. 14.

    Loneoak

    @D0n Camillo:

    I’m just glad you got the goat fucking thread off the top of the page.

    Balloon Juice: The Preeminent Site for Commentary on Goat Fucking and Andrew Sullivan

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    @lamh34: I’m not a big typo guy, but if you’re gonna talk shit and all…
    You may not want to mess that part up.

  18. 18.

    aliasofwestgate

    @JPL:

    The news stations and whatnot in Canada can’t report on anything until after 10pm EST. It’s because of a law passed before telecommunications advanced so heavily. That’s why we haven’t had a rapid fire report of the election.

    I’m waiting myself. I’ve got friends and family that i hope have voted Harper out on his arse!

  19. 19.

    mxh

    Obama should give Bush exactly as much credit for killing Bin Laden as Reagan gave Carter for freeing the hostages.

  20. 20.

    lamh34

    @Lolis:

    Hell naw, I mean Obama damnit!!!

    Kiddin/

    Damn!!!! that’s been happening alot…oh well too late to edit.

    I was just talking to someone about how unfortunately alot of people have been making the same mistake. And here I’ve fallen prey to it too…lol!

  23. 23.

    catatonia

    @lamh34:
    Jeebus,these morans see everything through a prism of a Schwarzenegger movie, and now some hanging chad of a CIA operative coughs up a loogie over (non-existent, BTW) stagecraft?

    Frank Lintz (or whatever his name is) better get on the stick and find a talking point that isn’t completely laughable.

  28. 28.

    wonkie

    While Obama was working on taking Bin Ladi out the Republicans had their sights on…their fellow Americans:Medicaid, Medicare, union workers.

  31. 31.

    catatonia

    @lamh34:
    I’d wager he’s a graduate of the world-renowned anti-terrorism program at Regent University. The one that teaches how GWB and Jesus Christ stride arm-in-arm across the Land of the Infidel, uprooting coastal elites and such.

  32. 32.

    srv

    @lamh34: Well, it is what it is.

    We’re supposed to believe how bitch-fantastic the CIA, NRO and NSA are and the ISI has been hosting him in their back yard for probably at least a few years. Crap, they’re saying this all goes back to some nickname they choked out of KSM during his eleventy-billionth waterboarding seven years ago.

    Right.

  36. 36.

    mmc

    So I have a theory that Obama killed bin Laden because Osama had proof Obama’s long form birth certificate was a forgery. If I call into talk radio and posit the above theory how long until Fox and Friends devotes a show to it?

  37. 37.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @mmc: Anywhere form one hour to three days. It depends on which radio show you call.

  38. 38.

    lamh34

    hey, is there any where I can go online to read up on what the hell is up with Pakistan. Watching Rachel, is it true that at least 3X we’ve found the 9/11 masterminds in large urban cities in Pakistan!

    How and why did is it that Pakistan became/is considered an ally?

  39. 39.

    Corner Stone

    @srv:

    Crap, they’re saying this all goes back to some nickname they choked out of KSM during his eleventy-billionth waterboarding seven years ago.

    Anyone who thinks OBL didn’t burn every external facing network he had after KSM got taken is a fool.
    A “courier” is trusted by a guy worth $20M dead or alive?

    They’re floating this to protect other assets.

  41. 41.

    lamh34

    @srv: @Corner Stone:

    I thought I read somewhere that this whole KSM “waterboarding lead to intelligence” meme is being pushed by former Bushie and neo-cons as a way to ensure Bush getting as much credit or more than the Obama administration…

  42. 42.

    J.

    Chuck. Was. Awesome. Had a strong feeling Agent X would turn out to be “Volkoff.” Anyone recall if the name of Mary’s supposed CIA handler who hated guns was Hartley Winterbottom? [Actually just Googled it. It was Tuttle. Boo.] Any guesses as to who Vivian’s mother is? Can’t wait to see the next two episodes of Chuck. Just hope NBC doesn’t cancel the show.

  43. 43.

    lamh34

    @stuckinred:

    yes, I can google it, but all google does is put every damn thing on the internet in random ways. Not in ways like good credible sites to check out. I was trying to avoid having to blind myself with crazy crackpot conspiracy theories.

  44. 44.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    Chuck = The continued appearance of Timothy Dalton.

    All I would like now is the defeat of Stephen Harper, and this will be a perfect day.

  45. 45.

    hildebrand

    Let’s be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found UBL and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory.

    And there you go – the wingnut Facebook meme. Honestly. How many flaws can you find in one paragraph?

  46. 46.

    kdaug

    @lamh34:

    How and why did is it that Pakistan became/is considered an ally?

    Nukes.

    More specifically, an India/Pak nuclear exchange. The Chinese, especially, would not be amused. Could get out of control in a hurry.

  49. 49.

    RedKitten

    Chuck was fantastic tonight, and I TOTALLY didn’t expect the Agent X reveal to be who it was. And I’m glad that Ellie is finally in the loop.

    WRT the election — it’s too damn early to tell. The results are in here in Atlantic Canada, and it’s pretty evenly split so far. As predicted, my riding went blue-blue-blue. The Conservative candidate had more votes than the Libs and NDippers combined, so vote splitting wasn’t really an issue.

    Part of me is tempted to stay up and watch the coverage, mostly because I’m really terrified at the idea of blissfully sleeping while That Shark-Eyed Fascist Fucker gets a majority.

  50. 50.

    Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity

    O’Donnell is flogging the closing of the CIA’s unit assigned to hunt down OBL as some sort of grand statement about Bush’s inability to be serious about catching him. I like O’Donnell, but I wish he wouldn’t go to that well. The shut down was advertised as a realignment of resources rather than a scaling back of them, as isolating the job to one unit was no longer deemed the optimal model (by people much smarter than GWB, one assumes). Obama may have stressed the importance of this mission more than his predecessor (and that would only be speculation), but I’m not aware he rebooted the unit.

  51. 51.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @hildebrand: This is the kind of argument that simply requires a “Fuck you” or “You’re a fucking idiot” as a response.

  52. 52.

    lamh34

    okay, is anyone else noticing the next meme GOP trying to begin. Now the meme forming is that Obama 2012 is GHWB 1992.

    So first it was that Obama was the black Jimmy Carter and now Obama is George HW Bush ’cause both achieved great foreign policy victories but Obama’s chances of re-election is just as bad as Bush Sr.

    Anyone think this meme will stick in the minds of enought people…

  53. 53.

    hildebrand

    @Omnes Omnibus: Here is the kicker – the comment was posted by my brother-in-law. I am sure that he got it from some other wing-nut, but how do you tactfully point out that your brother-in-law is a wack-a-loon.

    Yeesh.

  55. 55.

    Suffern ACE

    @hildebrand: I can see clearly the Dems were poised to win the government shut down battle. That goofy president not wanting to pay the soldiers. What a cheapy.

  56. 56.

    stuckinred

    @Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity: He also said Giuliani had been silent:”Similarly, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani went out of his way to praise Obama.

    “I feel a great deal of satisfaction that justice has been done, and I admire the courage of the president to make a decision like this because if something had gone wrong everyone would be blaming him,” Giuliani told Politico.”

  57. 57.

    WaterGirl

    @J.: Hey, how about a SPOILER ALERT? Not everyone watches Chuck (or any show) in real time.

  61. 61.

    Suffern ACE

    @lamh34: My understanding is that individuals don’t vote because the results are the good final scene of a play.

  63. 63.

    Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity

    @Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:

    Then that’s what O’Donnell should be pointing out. I’m not against the argument per se that Obama was simply more up to the task than Bush. I just think going the route of the closing of the CIA unit is unproductive.

  64. 64.

    Mike in NC

    @mmc:

    So I have a theory that Obama killed bin Laden because Osama had proof Obama’s long form birth certificate was a forgery. If I call into talk radio and posit the above theory how long until Fox and Friends devotes a show to it?

    Devote a show to it? Oh, hell, they’ll offer you a show all your very own! Better get an agent lined up if you don’t already have one.

  65. 65.

    srv

    @lamh34: GOS is trying to beat it back the AP story, but now Reuters, Fox and WSJ are all using it. The WSJ articles quotes a current admin official’s briefing.

    Hey Joeboy, how did you miss this?

    “What would be important would be for us to do it in a way that allows the entire world to understand the murderous acts that he’s engaged in and not to make him into a martyr, and to assure that the United States government is abiding by basic conventions that would strengthen our hand in the broader battle against terrorism,”

    – Candidate Obama

  66. 66.

    Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity

    @stuckinred:

    Giuliani said that? Maybe LO’D isn’t reporting it until Politico provides the tape. I can scarcely believe Mr. NV9-11 was actually that gracious.

  68. 68.

    MikeJ

    @Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:

    mccain and bush weren’t going to go into paki unilaterally without giving the paki

    I doubt you meant any racial animosity, but “paki” is generally considered what wikipedia calls an “offensive, racial slur”. I’ve never seen you use a racial slur here and fully believe you were just using an abbreviation, but for future use you might want to keep it in mind.

  69. 69.

    Canadian Observer

    So it turns out OBL was unarmed and wasn’t even reaching for a gun when he was killed by the US Death Squad.

    A war crime if there ever was one.

  70. 70.

    Corner Stone

    @General Stuck: You don’t have to be LeCarre to understand there is some disinformation being spread deep and wide by the admin.
    As it should be.
    Hell, I’d be selling it like all the info came from peeps already in custody but we just got round to figuring it all out.

  73. 73.

    Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity

    @Canadian Observer:

    In a way, it’s too bad he wasn’t buried with a headstone. It could read, “He died with his yellow-ducky jammies on.”

  74. 74.

    General Stuck

    @Corner Stone:

    Here’s the problem with your theory. The people inside the loop within AQ and their allies are already going to know if Osama ditched his previous couriers, so making up a story like with KSM would not serve any purpose amongst the folks who matter and would already know there was some other explanation for how Osama was tracked. Sometimes a fish is just a fish, and it was decided to keep a trusted courier, to trust with your life, those being likely hard to find.

  75. 75.

    Canadian Observer

    Assassination is illegal under US law, as well as Pakistani law. He was shot when unarmed, and not even attempting to be armed. This is cold-blooded assassination by a Death Squad.

    But I guess nations with brown people don’t get stuff like sovreignty, right?

  80. 80.

    Canadian Observer

    President Ford outlawed assassination as a tactic in 1975.

    So when does Obama answer for his crimes?

  81. 81.

    Corner Stone

    Living in a compound for months, where some person(s) leave twice or thrice weekly to get provisions.
    You think that guy trusts a courier known to people in custody? For 3 or 4 years after KSM is in the grasp and control of the US?

  84. 84.

    Canadian Observer

    It was done through executive order, idiot.

    A thousand bin Ladens will take his place, bin Ladens the Empire created.

  85. 85.

    General Stuck

    @Corner Stone:

    The WH isn’t trying to sell Al-Zawahiri. That dude isn’t the target.

    Sell Al Zawahiri? I have no idea what you are talking about with this quote. I just stated some basic logic, that is basic logic for everyone, hillbilly or not. And your theory doesn’t make sense in light of that basic logic.

    The only persons who would have an interest in the US covering another asset, already know the story about KSM is either true or false. The only other people to “sell” such a cover to is the public, who don’t have a clue of what is going on inside this cat and mouse game. And are non players.

  86. 86.

    Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity

    @Canadian Observer:

    “Studly Pantload” is trivializing war crimes.

    Yeah, well, the doc said if I was going to successfully quit smoking, I needed to get a hobby.

  89. 89.

    Studly Pantload, now with enhanced schmuckosity

    @Canadian Observer:

    bin Ladens the Empire created.

    Religious fundamentalism carried to a nihilistic extreme is what created OBL, maroon. OBL got his fee-fees in a bunch because we had troops in a land he considered too holy for our dirty boots, even though we weren’t occupying said country. Don’t make him out to have stood for those oppressed under the heel of American imperialism. He stood for only himself and a god who is too weak to suffer the insult of infidels hanging out in spot X. Everyone else was just a prop, including the around 3,000 souls who perished at his whim on US soil.

    And for the record, I’m not happy he got gunned down by our crack special forces because he was brown skinned. Cute strawman, though.

  90. 90.

    Corner Stone

    @General Stuck: Let’s play two guesses. The info about a “courier” came years ago from people caught and tortured at gitmo. And somehow after 3-5 years this same person is still hand delivering info to OBL. And further, we put rotating teams on his ass and tracked him for 8 months.
    OR, the info had nothing to do with a “courier” and the real HUMINT is being masked.

  91. 91.

    rikyrah

    Chuck was fantastic tonight, and I TOTALLY didn’t expect the Agent X reveal to be who it was. And I’m glad that Ellie is finally in the loop.

    I totally didn’t think it was Volkov…who has a mother who loves him and misses him….this is so complex…I still think his daughter is CHuck and Ellie’s sister.

  92. 92.

    MikeBoyScout

    Not all the news over the weekend was good news.

    In its 3rd week since its release the popularity and profitability of the movie Atlas Shrugged (Part 1!) continued to wane.

    In the previous week Atlas Shrugged (Part 1!) generated an average of $1,895 at 465 theaters.

    This weekend Atlas Shrugged (Part 1!) only generated an average of $1,263 at 371 theaters.

    The danger to the nation is clear.
    At its current declining weekend gross rate of more than 40% it is only a short time before this monumental film portrayal of that novel disappears from our new age Tea Party cultural landscape.

    Can we possibly continue as a nation or a culture without Randroidion Tea Partiers celebrating Going Galt for the Invisible Hand Fairy at a theater near you?

    How will a man with the name, Dick Armey, continued to be employed if he can’t help translate the political power of Tea Party Nation and a best selling novel into a movie blockbuster?

    /snark

  93. 93.

    General Stuck

    @Corner Stone:

    I would hope if our CIA was going to “mask” a HUMINT for this action, they would have chosen a better cover story, because like I said, the players in this thing on both sides will know easily whether OBL kept the same courier or not.

    I am not saying you are necessarily wrong, only that the theory has some serious holes in it.

  95. 95.

    Corner Stone

    All I know is, you make two turns with me and I am noticing your ass.

  96. 96.

    Corner Stone

    @General Stuck: Like what? Some Paki ISI is the source. How would we hide that?
    The compound has no external comms. Do you think anyone gets in or out that doesn’t have a fist up his anal canal checking for bombs?
    Someone did not stay bought.
    We can play SIGINT games all we want, but this way casts doubt in 360 degree fashion. Up and down the chain. No one in command authority of AQ will trust anyone for some time. And no one aspiring to be the next martyr will look at their captains the same way for a while.
    It’s a complete mindfuck.

    ETA, I’d be very surprised if we find confirmation that OBL actually did live in this compound for very long.

  98. 98.

    Steeplejack

    @Narcissus:

    No, it’s not you. Lots of high-school-level relationship angst, dealt with at not even the level of sophistication of the average high school. Not funny and getting old. And not sustained by putting Yvonne Strahovski in a cheesecake situation in every episode. Ugh.

  99. 99.

    Steeplejack

    Since this thread is still going, I have to put in a plug for The Dave Gorman Collection, which some saint has uploaded to YouTube in six installments (first one here). This was titled Are You Dave Gorman? when I originally saw it on PBS about 10 years ago.

    Join the epic quest of one man, Dave Gorman, to find 54 other Dave Gormans while remaining in the “golden cone of Gorman-ness,” 300-500 mpdg (miles per Dave Gorman). Just check out the first episode and see if you want to go on with it. Classic British humor.

  101. 101.

    Uloborus

    Incidentally, the next time Beese shows up claiming Obama has killed more people in one year than Bin Laden ever, he is once again full of shit and making things up.

    I don’t support civilian deaths and assume that these figures are under reported, but they still starkly demonstrate that like all More Liberal Than Thou anti Obama memes this one is based on incorrect assumptions and flat out lies.

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