• Menu
  • Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Before Header

  • About Us
  • Lexicon
  • Contact Us
  • Our Store
  • ↑
  • ↓
  • ←
  • →

Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Sometimes the world just tells you your cat is here.

He really is that stupid.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

“Loving your country does not mean lying about its history.”

The real work of an opposition party is to oppose.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Let me file that under fuck it.

Wow, you are pre-disappointed. How surprising.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

Disappointing to see gov. newsom with his finger to the wind.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Oh FFS you might as well trust a 6-year-old with a flamethrower.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

In my day, never was longer.

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

Mobile Menu

  • Seattle Meet-up Post
  • 2025 Activism
  • Targeted Political Fundraising
  • Donate with Venmo, Zelle & PayPal
  • Site Feedback
  • War in Ukraine
  • Submit Photos to On the Road
  • Politics
  • On The Road
  • Open Threads
  • Topics
  • COVID-19
  • Authors
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • Lexicon
  • Our Store
  • Politics
  • Open Threads
  • 2025 Activism
  • Garden Chats
  • On The Road
  • Targeted Fundraising!
You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Open Thread: ‘A Grudging, Defeated Acceptance’

Open Thread: ‘A Grudging, Defeated Acceptance’

by Anne Laurie|  May 19, 20114:57 pm| 52 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2012, Republican Stupidity

FacebookTweetEmail

Gail Collins is probably the most underrated NYTimes columnist, and that’s even apart from her role as BoBo’s nanny. But campaign fatigue seems to be affecting her already, or else she had qualms about mentioning Willard’s dog-on-the-roof-rack infamy in a column about the Republican Year of Living Adulterously:

… The Republicans are terrified that they’ll wind up with Mitt Romney, who has been fund-raising like crazy and seems to be planning a campaign based on the slogan: “Money can’t buy love, but it can definitely purchase a grudging, defeatist acceptance.”
__
Some party leaders are looking hopefully at Mitch Daniels, the governor of Indiana, who’s promised to make up his mind this month. If he runs, one thing you are not going to get from Mitch Daniels is the politics of joy. Have you ever seen “Game of Thrones” on HBO? It’s about a mythical kingdom that sends some of its young men to the remote tundra to live in perpetual celibacy and guard a 700-foot-tall wall of ice. Their reaction is very similar to the way Mitch Daniels looks when he talks about running for president…
__
As to Governor Daniels, the voters are unlikely to give a fig about the interesting past of his wife, Cheri. But if he wants to protect her from the embarrassment of being asked about it 24/7, perhaps he could just declare her off limits. The news media has generally respected those kinds of rules when it comes to presidential candidates’ children, as long as said offspring don’t show up on reality shows or as teen-abstinence ambassadors for a shoe store foundation.
__
Of course, a wife who is off limits would not be able to campaign for her husband. I think that would be terrific. Finally, we could end the tradition that a presidential candidate’s spouse is running for something, too. If we want a first family to obsess over, we should just hire a king and queen.
__
Don’t know how the social right would feel about this. But there’s always Mitt Romney.

FacebookTweetEmail
Previous Post: « This 5-Year-Old Wants a Job Before She Gets Married
Next Post: Open Thread »

Reader Interactions

52Comments

  1. 1.

    Cris (without an H)

    May 19, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Cairo 2: Electric Boogaloo. The Obama Administration throws its support behind pro-democracy movements in the middle east, and reiterates its support for pre-1967 borders for an independent Palestinian state. We may now commence shouting at each other.

  2. 2.

    Turgidson

    May 19, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Romney/Daniels 2012! The most soporific ticket evah!

  3. 3.

    TomG

    May 19, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    This is the most frustrating part about favoring Gary Johnson – everyone is hell-bent on ignoring him. I’m not sure if it is because he’s boring, or because his governorship was too far back or what, but I’m still waiting for somebody to actually discuss him – because he is, in fact, in the race.
    He’s been divorced once, and his wife died soon after, but I don’t know the details.
    It just seems like Chris Mathews and other people on the evening shows are assuming that he isn’t worth spending time on…without giving him any air time, so he can’t prove them wrong.

  4. 4.

    Cris (without an H)

    May 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    @Turgidson: Bachmann/Palin or nothing.

  5. 5.

    JGabriel

    May 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Anne Laurie:

    Gail Collins is probably the most underrated NYTimes columnist …

    That’s because Collins got off to a bad start, writing like a MoDo knock-off, until she seemed to find her own voice about 3-6 months in. I think people like Collins a lot more now than when she first started.

    .

  6. 6.

    Culture of Truth

    May 19, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Excuse me? No mention of the Newt Gingrich juggernaut?

  7. 7.

    Cris (without an H)

    May 19, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    @TomG: Maybe Gary wrote his GBCW letter to the League of Serious People when he threw his support behind the Ron Paul R[evoL]ution.

  8. 8.

    Warren Terra

    May 19, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Very much as the decisions Cheri Daniels makes in her private life are her own business, how Willard’s dog chooses to travel is his own business. Both are off limits, unless the dog chooses to campaign for Willard.

    @TomG:
    There’s also the fact that no one has ever heard of him. Add to that that he’s not going to break out of single digits in any state. Probably not even New Mexico. And that’s a good thing: the last thing we need is someone raised on the government dollar but convinced that the government needs to get out of the way, someone who made their bundle as a property developer in the southwest.

  9. 9.

    PeakVT

    May 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Question for Noo Yawkahs: what’s with Cuomo pushing a property tax cap? Doesn’t anyone in the state know the devastation Prop 13 has wrought in Cali?

  10. 10.

    handy

    May 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    @Cris (without an H):

    Things just got real interesting.

  11. 11.

    Guster

    May 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    @TomG: Who’s Gary Johnson?

  12. 12.

    James E. Powell

    May 19, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    @TomG:

    Thirty seconds over google reveals why there is absolutely no point in discussing Gov. Johnson’s quest for the Republican nomination:

    Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson announced in New Hampshire today that he will be seeking the Republican nomination for president, making him likely the only pro-abortion candidate in the field.

  13. 13.

    Culture of Truth

    May 19, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    CHRISTIE / BLANKENSHIP 2012

  14. 14.

    Anoniminous

    May 19, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    The only way the GOP presidential nomination race could get any more weird is by Bernie Sanders jumping in.

  15. 15.

    Dan

    May 19, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I still think she treats the column like it’s a way to test out ideas for a political stand-up comedy routine. She’s much more focused on issues than Dowd but she’s only slightly more serious.

  16. 16.

    pattonbt

    May 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    How long until the VSP village pundits re-visit their mancrush on Thune and beg him, a la Fred Thompson, to throw his hat into the ring? They seemed to love him so.

  17. 17.

    David in NY

    May 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I loved the whole column, but her riff on the Republican specialities in sex scandals was great. After enumerating a couple of them, she concludes.

    A married senator who has an affair with an employee is a jerk. A married senator who has an affair with an employee who is the wife of his chief of staff, and whose adultery is the subject of ongoing discussion at his Congressional prayer group, is Republican.

    We haven’t even gotten to Newt Gingrich yet!

  18. 18.

    Anoniminous

    May 19, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    @Guster:

    A former GOP Governor of New Mexico whose major achievement in office was vetoing every bill – outright or line-item – that come to his desk. After leaving state office (term limited) his impact on national politics was a successful ascent of Mount Everest (2003) and endorsing/working for Ron Paul (2008.)

    ETA: Joe Monahan – THE Go-To guy for New Mexico political news – reports:

    Johnson’s Our America Initiative PAC has been suspended by the Utah Department of Commerce Consumer Protection Division for failure to file its first-quarter financial report. As a result of the May 12th suspension, it is unlawful for the PAC to “solicit, request, promote, advertise, or sponsor a charitable solicitation in Utah until the registration is reinstated.

    Which gives an idea of how competent Johnson’s campaign staff is.

  19. 19.

    The Moar You Know

    May 19, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    As to Governor Daniels, the voters are unlikely to give a fig about the interesting past of his wife, Cheri. But if he wants to protect her from the embarrassment of being asked about it 24/7, perhaps he could just declare her off limits.

    Anyone remember Bill Clinton’s wife, Hillary? Didn’t think so, the media completely ignored her.

    The news media has generally respected those kinds of rules when it comes to presidential candidates’ children

    Sure they have. I remember being stunned to find out that Chelsea Clinton’s father was Janet Reno. I also remember newscasters guffawing when someone said something about Amy Carter looking like a dog. Perhaps it’s because they were Democrat kids, not Patriotic Republican Kids.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    May 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    Excuse me? No mention of the Newt Gingrich juggernaut?

    I’d just like to salute the nameless scheduler who, after Gingrich had an absolutely hilariously horrible week, booked him to speak in Waterloo, Iowa…

  21. 21.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Johnson is screwed also because Ron Paul is the designated loonytarian in this year’s GOP presidential race.

    There’s only room for one in the media’s limited attention span.

  22. 22.

    Guster

    May 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    @Anoniminous: All that, and for Abortion on Demand? Bachmann shouldn’t worry,

  23. 23.

    Doug Harlan J

    May 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Collins is an idiot. The superficiality of MoDo with the wit of Nick Kristof.

  24. 24.

    chopper

    May 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    @Turgidson:

    phlegmatic, even.

  25. 25.

    MagicPanda

    May 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Mitt’s problem, in my mind, was always that he would have trouble in the primary, where the base matters more, rather than the general.

    If Mitt gets the nod, I think he’s a more formidable opponent than any of the firebrands (Gingrich, Palin, Bachmann, etc.) and he has more name recognition than the supposedly reasonable guys (Huntsman, Daniels, etc).

    And while it’s hard to imagine Romney whipping up the base, the GOP machine can whip up the base by hating on Obama, right?

    I agree with that Romney has the spine and the morals of a jellyfish, but isn’t he one of the stronger (or maybe I should say “less weak” instead of “stronger”) candidates just the same?

  26. 26.

    PurpleGirl

    May 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    I used to read Gail Collins all the time when she worked at Newsday. Something seemed different once she moved to the NY Times. But sometimes she can be really good. I can’t stand the columns/conversations with Bobo, though.

  27. 27.

    Pat

    May 19, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    It would be hard to underrated Collins. She’s always sneering at people who are not of the elite, yet her columns are filled with Palin gossip. And if she has qualms about the dog on the roof, it’s new. She’s too smart to waste time on that kind of crap.

  28. 28.

    negative 1

    May 19, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    @MagicPanda: Yeah, it probably wouldn’t get much nicer for Mitt in the generals. He can’t campaign on any of his accomplishments because he spent all of the 2008 campaign trashing them. Also, he’s even changed his mind since then. At this point everyone, even casual observers, thinks of him as a fake. The media won’t be too shy pouncing on the guy, either.
    Even if he gets through THAT, his only image is to run as a wall street type. No matter how you feel about the economy, that’s the worst thing to be. So Mittronic has some baggage attached to him.

  29. 29.

    TomG

    May 19, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Okay, the Republicans won’t give Gary Johnson the time of day, because LIKE TOM RIDGE he’s pro-choice. (I think that 2 years ago McCain could have had a much better chance if he’d ignored the fanatics and chosen Tom Ridge).
    I guess the Republicans either (a) do not honestly WANT to win a general election or (b) think they can win with a pro-life candidate.
    If there are any R’s left who are not grifters (which I am beginning to doubt), they would do better by ignoring the screams from their base and picking a person who could win in the general. And I honestly think Gary Johnson could do it.
    Arguing that no one has heard of him has nothing to do with the merits of his positions. That’s my whole point – you haven’t heard of him because he is being ignored.
    The media likes Ron Paul these days, as a joke, or as an easy soundbite. They don’t want to bother with a younger, non-racist version of him.

  30. 30.

    MagicPanda

    May 19, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    @negative 1: Totally true.

    I just think that he could campaign on: “The economy sucks, and I don’t seem like an absolute crazy person”.

    Which is something that, say, Bachmann would have trouble doing.

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 19, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    @TomG: I can tell you that I am not particularly interested in Gary Johnson because I cannot conceive of a scenario in which I would vote for a Republican for any elective office for the foreseeable future. If Johnson is more sane than the rest of them, he is, nevertheless, still one of them.

  32. 32.

    MagicPanda

    May 19, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    @MagicPanda: Also, Mitt could campaign on this slogan: “Dear base, I don’t have any principles, so I’m will to do whatever you want in order to get your vote, even though deep inside, I think you’re crazy.”

  33. 33.

    TomG

    May 19, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    31. Omnes Omnibus – yeah, that’s understandable. I’m just looking for options…I don’t trust the Libertarian Party anymore after Barr/Root, and I can’t vote for Obama because he’s betrayed nearly all his “civil rights issue” promises that he made.

  34. 34.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 19, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    @TomG: Civil rights or civil liberties? I think Obama’s civil rights record is pretty good. On civil liberties, he has been disappointing, but I would not go as far as saying he has broken nearly every promise he made.

  35. 35.

    TomG

    May 19, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    I meant “civil liberties”, yes.

  36. 36.

    Dave N.

    May 19, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    How does the social right feel about Romney? Probably something like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpva_iit-8

  37. 37.

    eyelessgame

    May 19, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Romney ran for governor of Massachusetts as a pro-choice moderate, because he thought he could get elected by running as a pro-choice moderate.

    He ran for president last time as an anti-abortion conservative, because he thought he could get elected by running as an anti-abortion conservative.

    He will run this time as an anti-health-care libertarian, because he thinks he can get elected by running as an anti-health-care libertarian.

    If he thought he could get elected by running as a pirate, he would run as a pirate.

  38. 38.

    JCT

    May 19, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Romney in the general? The ads write themselves “Which Mitt Romney will you get?”

    It’s hard enough to run on your record but when you disavow it at every turn you’re not left with anything.

    And the base will not be motivated by Romney — even if they transform him auto-magically into the anti-Obama.

  39. 39.

    Hawes

    May 19, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Mark my words: Mark Perry will be the “white knight” (or knight of the white camelia, I forget which) and seize the GOP nomination by appealing to the important Redneck/secessionist/yahoo constituencies in the Republican party.

    Which is to say all of them.

  40. 40.

    Hawes

    May 19, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    @eyelessgame: You have offered the quintessential description of Mitt, and for that I salute you!

    But I’m afraid pirate is out.

    http://zombieland-nowbrainfree.blogspot.com/2011/05/mitt-in-nutshell.html

  41. 41.

    eemom

    May 19, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    @Doug Harlan J:

    Collins is an idiot. The superficiality of MoDo with the wit of Nick Kristof.

    yep. Another one that poor old lunatic-savant Somerby called right, like Frank Rich.

    Figures that a Geraldine Ferraro fangirl would find her “underrated,” however.

  42. 42.

    Delia

    May 19, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    As to Governor Daniels, the voters are unlikely to give a fig about the interesting past of his wife, Cheri.

    Talk about disingenuous. Having had absolutely no previous assumptions about Governor Daniels’ lovely wife, Cheri, I will freely admit to having enough of a lowdown and dirty side that I now really want to know.

  43. 43.

    drew42

    May 19, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Gail Collins is probably the most underrated NYTimes columnist…

    I know I’m brainwashed by Somerby. But I can’t stop laughing at that.

  44. 44.

    Anne Laurie

    May 19, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    @Doug Harlan J: *Phhtbbt!* [/bronx cheer]

  45. 45.

    4jkb4ia

    May 19, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Collins has gone past her quota for mentioning that dog on the roof. It randomly appeared in the Saturday quiz I think last week.

    Good, Balloon Juice hasn’t exploded. It wasn’t likely since it has been here for 8 years, but you never know.

  46. 46.

    Doug Harlan J

    May 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Agree to disagree!

    All of you trashing Sully when I was a fanboi helped me see the light with him.

  47. 47.

    mpbruss

    May 20, 2011 at 12:21 am

    Romney is a Mormon, and I think a surprising number of evangelicals have gotten past the “Obama is the antichrist!” phase. Obama did 10% better with evangelicals in 2008 than Kerry did in 2004. Part of that is McCain, but I expect that to stay the same or go up if Romney is the opponent in 2012. Romney’s been smart to try to get his foreign policy bona fides up, but with Osama dead he doesn’t have an edge on GWOT issues. His best hope with evangelicals is to start hitting the Israel issue hard, which I see he’s already doing. I still think his chances against Obama as a conservative are virtually nil. He simply doesn’t excite the base. In my opinion, none of the legit social conservative candidates can win either, unless the economy actually gets worse.

  48. 48.

    Jebediah

    May 20, 2011 at 2:26 am

    @Culture of Truth:

    Excuse me? No mention of the Newt Gingrich juggernaut?

    Or the Newt jugger-not, even. Could he make it as a juggalo?

  49. 49.

    Jebediah

    May 20, 2011 at 4:06 am

    @Jebediah:
    I think maybe I meant juggernewt.

  50. 50.

    Jebediah

    May 20, 2011 at 5:55 am

    Since I seem to be alone here, I hereby plant this flag and claim this thread and all its riches in the name of the Juggernewt, King of New Newtistan. The Campaign is dead, long live the Campaign!

  51. 51.

    bjacques

    May 20, 2011 at 10:15 am

    I hope Mitt runs anyway, even if he’s not crazy enough for the base. I want to see the Romney cross-country bus again, with his military-age-yet-civilian sons, the Five Bland Boys of Massachusetts.

  52. 52.

    eyelessgame

    May 20, 2011 at 10:17 am

    @Hawes: Unfortunately, it’s not original – it comes from, I think, Digby. But I couldn’t find the link to it.

Comments are closed.

Primary Sidebar

On The Road - BarcaChicago  - Off the Gunflint Trail/Boundary Waters 8
Image by BarcaChicago (7/11/25)

World Central Kitchen

Donate

Recent Comments

  • The Republic of Stupidity on Fox News Friday Open Thread (Jul 12, 2025 @ 1:57am)
  • AlaskaReader on War for Ukraine Day 1,233: Another Day, More Russian War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity (Jul 12, 2025 @ 1:54am)
  • Jay on War for Ukraine Day 1,233: Another Day, More Russian War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity (Jul 12, 2025 @ 1:43am)
  • 2liberal on Friday Night Open Thread (Jul 12, 2025 @ 1:25am)
  • MobiusKlein on Friday Night Open Thread (Jul 12, 2025 @ 1:15am)

Balloon Juice Posts

View by Topic
View by Author
View by Month & Year
View by Past Author

Featuring

Medium Cool
Artists in Our Midst
Authors in Our Midst
No Kings Protests June 14 2025

🎈Keep Balloon Juice Ad Free

Become a Balloon Juice Patreon
Donate with Venmo, Zelle or PayPal

Calling All Jackals

Site Feedback
Nominate a Rotating Tag
Submit Photos to On the Road
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Links)
Balloon Juice Anniversary (All Posts)
Fix Nyms with Apostrophes

Social Media

Balloon Juice
WaterGirl
TaMara
John Cole
DougJ (aka NYT Pitchbot)
Betty Cracker
Tom Levenson
David Anderson
Major Major Major Major
DougJ NYT Pitchbot
mistermix

Keeping Track

Legal Challenges (Lawfare)
Republicans Fleeing Town Halls (TPM)
21 Letters (to Borrow or Steal)
Search Donations from a Brand

Feeling Defeated?  If We Give Up, It's Game Over

Site Footer

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

  • Facebook
  • RSS
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Comment Policy
  • Our Authors
  • Blogroll
  • Our Artists
  • Privacy Policy

Copyright © 2025 Dev Balloon Juice · All Rights Reserved · Powered by BizBudding Inc

Share this ArticleLike this article? Email it to a friend!

Email sent!