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More of this, please

by DougJ|  June 5, 20119:19 pm| 200 Comments

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The one good thing about this idiotic Wiener story is what a bad ass the tweetee, Gennette Cordova, has turned out to be:

“I was ‘Trojan horsed’ by an NY Post reporter who never said who he was or that he was interviewing me,” she tweeted.

Addressing the New York Post and Fenton, she tweeted: “You got that information surreptitiously and then passed if off as an interview.”

She added, “Then you proceeded to take my quotes out of context and STILL I don’t see how it’s newsworthy.”

[…..]

“If you want to know my position on this whole thing,” she added late Friday, “I suggest avoiding @Newyorkpost and @politico. It’s pure slop.”

Fuck Frank Bruni and put this woman on the Times editorial page.

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  1. 1.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Agreed.

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Get her an internship with Dan Savage stat. She could get a good career going and she wouldn’t have to go far from home. Plus working for one of the coolest humans on the planet is a nice perk in and of itself.

  3. 3.

    CJ

    June 5, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    How dare she “stir the pot” and explain herself!

  4. 4.

    PeakVT

    June 5, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Fuck Reuven Fenton. What a POS.

  5. 5.

    MikeJ

    June 5, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    @Yutsano: Internship hell. Get her a paying job.

  6. 6.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Speaking of the Times, I heard an interview with Jill Abramson, the new executive editor taking over for gormless lickspittle, Bill Keller.

    Has anyone else heard her talk? She has the most peculiar drawl. Is that some kind of East Coast prep school lockjaw or something?

    ETA: On May 8, 2007, Abramson was seriously injured in a truck-pedestrian traffic accident at the intersection of Seventh Avenue and 44th Street, a few blocks from The New York Times’s Times Square headquarters.

    Ah, now I look like a cad.

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    @MikeJ: Well she’s still in college so I was thinking of accommodating that. However hell yeah if she wanted a full-time gig I bet Dan would hire her in a heartbeat.

  8. 8.

    PeakVT

    June 5, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @Jewish Steel: I turned that off as soon as I heard Keller’s name. It was too early in the day to get mad. Link for the curious.

  9. 9.

    TBogg

    June 5, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Why is Reuven Fenton stalking “lucsious” young Twitter co-eds? Big Journalism should do a piece on that…

  10. 10.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @Yutsano: Honest question: why Dan Savage? Why not the editorial page or what she is interested in?

  11. 11.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    @PeakVT: You missed some simpering horseshit, BK style fo sho.

    Note my edit above for red faced reply to my own question.

    Well, my excuse is that I’m not a journalist.

  12. 12.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    She didn’t ask for the attention, but she has handled herself well. I think that is the take away from this and DougJ’s post.

    Compare and contrast.

    Had any of the NYT conservatives been attacked in the same way, they would have reacted badly, or overly.

    That’s the point.

  13. 13.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    @Lurleen: A) She’s a journalism major, and The Stranger is a newspaper.

    B) Local, close to home, yet has a national voice in Savage. Her life would have less disruption that way. So really there’s a practicality there.

    Honestly, why not Savage?

  14. 14.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Honestly, why not Savage?

    Yeah. We know he reads B-J. Why not, Savage?

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 5, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    @Jewish Steel: I heard that too — on today’s “On the Media” on NPR. And I agree, she has a very strange voice/drawl. Shouldn’t matter as far as her NYTimes credentials are concerned, but she might want to get some voice coaching if she expects to do a lot of radio and TV/cable interviews, just sayin.

  16. 16.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Oh hell, I wasn’t even thinking about that. :) I suppose my several calls for lusting after his body got noticed too.

  17. 17.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: See my edit. I think it might be trauma induced.

  18. 18.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    @Yutsano: It’s probably what brought him here in the 1st place.

  19. 19.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    @Jewish Steel: HAH! Doubtful. He’s so fucking happily married it’s sickening.

  20. 20.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @Yutsano: DougJ suggested the NYT.

    I agreed. She’d be better than the current line up.

    And aren’t we segregating a bit by saying that an internship with Savage with a free daily weekly would be better than a paying gig at NYT?

  21. 21.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 5, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @Jewish Steel: ah hell, just saw your edit. I’m a cad too.

    Sigh.

  22. 22.

    Shoemaker-Levy 9

    June 5, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Just want to point out again to non-Washington-staters, Bellingham is not a five minute taxi ride from SeaTac airport. If this Post reporter is actually from New York he went to a hell of a lot of trouble for this “interview”. Even if he is a local working for the Post it tells you all you need to know about this organization that they dispatched someone to the Fourth Corner to harass this woman.

  23. 23.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: We’re in good cad-company then.

  24. 24.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 5, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    its comical what an honest desire not to participate in the bazuko circus yields.

  25. 25.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Again, I agree with DougJ that this particular woman has been through a lot and has always been on top of the people trying to ridicule her. That she has not folded under the pressure that others well protected from criticism and unwanted attention would makes her a hero in my eyes. She is a young woman who deserves respect. To ridicule her is awful. To marginalize her is worse.

  26. 26.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    I used to work with Savage’s mom. She was a super cool lady who is missed. That is all.

    Wait, no, it’s not. I remember her telling me that when Dan came out to her, her only negative feelings had to do with thinking that he probably wouldn’t be a parent, and she was certain he would have been such a bitchin’ parent. And by the time she told this story, he was…and he is. She was extremely proud of him.

  27. 27.

    Doug Harlan J

    June 5, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Give Savage an NYT editorial gig too.

  28. 28.

    Southern Beale

    June 5, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    And in other news from the right-wing nutosphere: evidently Sarah Palin’s fans are trying to rewrite the Paul Revere wikipedia entry to fit her mangled view of events. LOL LOL LOL.

  29. 29.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @Doug Harlan J: This. The wingnut butthurt alone would be worth it.

  30. 30.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @Lurleen: While there is little doubt that Cordova would be better than the current lineup at the NYT, the likelihood of them hiring a pro-Democrat J student from Western Washington U for a paying gig is slightly less than my getting hired by Sports Illustrated to appear in the next swimsuit issue. I think Yutsano was centering his suggestion in the reality-based world.

  31. 31.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    @shortstop: So a post about a very strong woman turns into a defense of Dan Savage?

    Really?

    What Dan Savage has done with “It Gets Better” is phenomenal. What it has fuck all to do with post is a mystery.

  32. 32.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @Doug Harlan J: Now that’s more like it :)

  33. 33.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @Lurleen: No. It was a mildly interesting, slightly OT story that I thought many readers here would appreciate. Are you insane, by chance?

  34. 34.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    @shortstop: That he is a she and that is the problem. Give a female a choice and she aims low.

  35. 35.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    @Jewish Steel: I keep wondering what happened to the raccoon. Wondering and wondering, and you won’t tell us.

  36. 36.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    @shortstop: “IF SOMEONE DOES NOT TELL ME ABOUT THIS BABY RACCOON ASSES WILL BE KICKED!”

    “I like her.”

  37. 37.

    boss bitch

    June 5, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    She was much too nice.

  38. 38.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @shortstop: No I’m not, thank you very much. I remember you from the chron days when you had a blog.

    DougJ’s point is well founded. The young woman who was attack in this episode has responded in a way that the people currently on the NYT board of opinion would wilt at.

    You can make this about me all you want.

    It is in fact about a young woman who has more balls than Bobo.
    Take that to the bank.

  39. 39.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    @Yutsano: Forget Downstate. With climate change spawning all these weird weather events, I gotta know what people do with raccoons after they fall through the ceiling. I’m not sayin’ I need a single, solid answer, but I would like to compare the merits of various approaches.

  40. 40.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    @Lurleen: I’ve never had a blog, Miz Wallace. You’re imagining that, too.

    Everyone in this thread is agreeing with Doug’s point. Everyone. And by “everyone,” I mean “all the people here right now.” Let us know if you need that parsed.

  41. 41.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    @shortstop: Where’s your blog on the chron site?

  42. 42.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    @efgoldman: But now I look like one too. The shonda!

    @shortstop:

    Are you insane, by chance?

    Oh my, yes indeed! Vide that SPaT threat from last night.

    Raccoon?

  43. 43.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    @shortstop: Ms. Wallace?

    Yeah you did.

    This is how it all comes tumbling down.

  44. 44.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    @shortstop: Since I have never had this happen to me personally, I have no real advice. Except repair the roof and sue the raccoon for the damages. Oh wait…

    @Jewish Steel: Just remember: shame curtains, they will not hang themselves.

  45. 45.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    @shortstop: Oh, yeah! I just asked my gf, “I never found out.” says she.

  46. 46.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Oh, noooooo; I’m not about to go look at that.

    Your friend with the raccoon and the non-party. Once or twice I have found myself wondering about the practicalities of addressing that. Because, you know, we have no other problems for me to worry about that.

  47. 47.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    @Yutsano: I look at the bright side. Cads are usually snappy dressers. I will order a bowler and start my mustache tonight.

  48. 48.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Agreed. Again.

  49. 49.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    And you all have made it about yourselves and not the topic of the post.

    Well played.

  50. 50.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Zoot suit or GTFO. :)

    @Lurleen: It’s called multi-tasking. Some humans actually do that quite well.

    @cbear: You, good sir, owe me a healthy dose of brain bleach.

  51. 51.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    @shortstop: What’s this about a racoon?

    Wait, don’t tell me—some sex-crazed gooper got caught fucking one, right?

    What is with those people? My god, the horror of it all.

  52. 52.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    @cbear: Maybe, but JS ain’t talking, in direct contradiction of page 72 in the Book of Cad.

  53. 53.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    @cbear: My gf sent me a text informing me that a party she was attending was cancelled; a raccoon had fallen thru the ceiling.

  54. 54.

    Southern Beale

    June 5, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    @Jewish Steel:

    Hey it ain’t a party unless a raccoon falls through the ceiling!

    :-)

  55. 55.

    slag

    June 5, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    As someone who has zealously not followed Wienergate, I’m wondering if someone can summarize the denouement (I dare not ask about the climax).

  56. 56.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Wait a minute—the gooper is saying some random racoon fell out of the ceiling and landed on his dick?
    And what was your gf doing at a gooper party?
    I’m so confused.

  57. 57.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    So let’s recap: DougJ suggests that a young woman should have a place at the table of the NYT. A female here thinks that cheering said young woman get an unpaid internship with a free weekly is a tag-along is fine and not bigoted.

    When this is pointed out, everyone starts talking about raccoons.

    This post was about how a young woman was able to fight off pests. Some of you have been exposed as pests.

    Deal already.

  58. 58.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    So let’s recap: DougJ suggests that a young woman should have a place at the table of the NYT. A female here thinks that cheering said young woman get an unpaid internship with a free weekly is a tag-along is fine and not bigoted.

    When this is pointed out, everyone starts talking about raccoons.

    This post was about how a young woman was able to fight off pests. Some of you have been exposed as pests.

    Deal already.

  59. 59.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    So let’s recap: DougJ suggests that a young woman should have a place at the table of the NYT. A female here thinks that cheering said young woman get an unpaid internship with a free weekly as a tag-along is fine and not bigoted.

    When this is pointed out, everyone starts talking about raccoons.

    This post was about how a young woman was able to fight off pests. Some of you have been exposed as pests.

    Deal already.

  60. 60.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    @shortstop: Just to clarify, I thoroughly enjoy SPaT’s posts. I meant I wasn’t up for reading a display of spiraling late-night crazy in the comments. I read Sarah’s piece and I’m a better woman for it; ima skip the responses.

  61. 61.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    “Submit” buttons, how do they fucking work?

  62. 62.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    @Lurleen: You’re not concerned that the goopers are now humping helpless racoons?
    Have you no humanity?

  63. 63.

    Mark B

    June 5, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    I’ve had problems with raccoons myself, although it was more that they were coming through the cat door and raiding the cat food than invading the attic. You can chase them out, but they just come right back in as soon as the ruckus dies down. I was told that the sound of a human voice would discourage them, so I placed a radio and tuned it to the all night talk radio station which plays Art Bell, Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh all night long. Didn’t discourage them at all, but to be fair, those voices aren’t all that human. And even worse, the raccoons are now libertarians.

    I’ve even heard of raccoons falling through ceilings before, but in that case it was a really ramshackle house in real need of serious repair.

  64. 64.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    @Lurleen:

    A female here thinks that cheering said young woman get an unpaid internship with a free weekly is a tag-along is fine and not bigoted.

    You fail already. And you are definitely new here or being deliberately obtuse.

    This post was about how a young woman was able to fight off pests. Some of you have been exposed as pests.

    Confession is good for the soul dear. Now if you’ll just admit you’re a sockpuppet we’ll get on with our lives.

  65. 65.

    slag

    June 5, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    @Lurleen: I believe the upshot of the contretemps, if I may summarize, is that people here generally hold Dan Savage in higher regard than they do the NYT editorial board. Paid or unpaid.

  66. 66.

    Yutsano

    June 5, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    @slag: Miss Cordova would definitely ass a lot of class and panache to the NYT editorial board true. But it seems rather…conventional and boring, two things it seems she definitively is not.

  67. 67.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    I will try, once again to say, that this young woman deserves a place on the NYT editorial board, having lived her life, more so than the person who lives and posts there.

    You all having a grudge against her or me doesn’t matter.

    Can’t you understand that? Without all of the bigotry involved with starting right out marginalizing her?

  68. 68.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    @cbear: I think that was Lurleen I saw washing her food in the creek. I followed her back to her IP address and saw that she had stolen every shiny hood ornament in the neighborhood!

    But she’s just such a cutie with those little bandit eyes.

  69. 69.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    @Mark B: The voices faze them not at all. We’ve had them charging through (unscreened) cabins and making off with every unsecured provision while we were in the next room playing boisterous poker.

  70. 70.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Now with extraneous and erroneous punctuation!

    @Mark B: The voices faze them not at all. We’ve had them charging through (unscreened) cabins and making off with every unsecured provision while we were in the next room playing boisterous po.k.er.

  71. 71.

    Svensker

    June 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    @cbear:

    You’re not concerned that the goopers are now humping helpless racoons? Have you no humanity?

    You haven’t seen the girth on the raccoons hanging out in my back garden. The male must weight 70 pounds. Just Rick Santorum’s size.

  72. 72.

    Comrade Mary

    June 5, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    I once saw a Lurleen on my garage roof here in Toronto. Stubborn little fucker tried to engage me in a staredown, but then my neighbours put out their Green Bin and it scrambled down for a snack. Too bad it couldn’t figure out how to undo the latch.

  73. 73.

    MattR

    June 5, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    @Lurleen: How exactly is it marginalizing her to recognize that she does not have the resume required to join the NYT editorial board? It would be wonderful if they would invite her to join, but it is not demeaning to her to recognize the reality that they won’t.

    PS. I highly recommend putting down the shovel. You’ve dug yourself a deep enough hole with your incorrect assumptions about the people here.

  74. 74.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    @Jewish Steel: I have a dynamic IP, so what you are saying is nonsense. But sexist.

  75. 75.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    If this Lurleen character weren’t to Sarah what patriotusa76 is to Cordova and Weiner, I’d be convinced it’s Doug.

  76. 76.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Which one do you think set the gooper off first—that cute little handwashing thingy, or the sexy mask?
    I suppose we should be grateful she survived the attack, but does she have to be so damn annoying?

  77. 77.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Now that’s funny. Of all of the places I have lived or visited, your corner of the world is not one of them.

    What is your opinion about whether the young woman attacked by people with little else to do with their time is?

  78. 78.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    @Svensker: The female could weigh that much too, if you didn’t keep marginalizing her.

  79. 79.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    @shortstop: Paranoia is treatable.

  80. 80.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    A Lurleen will lead a coonhound into deep water and try to drown it by jumping on its head. The are tenacious and clever.

    @Lurleen:

    what you are saying is nonsense.

    You take it back!

    But sexist.

    speciesist

  81. 81.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    @Svensker: So, it was Santorum that got busted banging the racoon? That sounds about right.
    Has he pledged to not abort the baby?

  82. 82.

    tkogrumpy

    June 5, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Now that Lurleen has highjacked this post about racoons, I can’t remember what it was I wanted to say. See what you did there Lurleen?

  83. 83.

    slag

    June 5, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    @Yutsano: I hear you. Plus, The Stranger never tried to pawn off the Iraq War on us, if I recall correctly. NYT has a bit of a credibility problem in that regard.

    That said, can you give me the denouement of Wienergate? Was there a resolution? I don’t want to have to know anything about it other than the outcome, if there was one.

  84. 84.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    @Jewish Steel: But it’s ok for a female to dumb down a suggestion from a front pager of a job at the NYT to a weekly.

    Oh yes, that is bigotry.

    Happens here all the time.

    You decide that what DougJ is yours to own and then proceed to foam finger a female who decides that it’s ok to relegate said female to a weekly.

    Got it.

  85. 85.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    @slag: No real resolution yet, but the coverage has faded. You might say we’re in a refractory period, although the story may not be up for round two.

  86. 86.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 5, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    ok, i am little bit confused by this thread.

    why was a party cancelled just because a raccoon fell through the ceiling?

    you add another course to dinner, and pretend like you expected it.

  87. 87.

    MattR

    June 5, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    @Lurleen:

    But it’s ok for a female to dumb down a suggestion from a front pager of a job at the NYT to a weekly.

    Other than the fact that the commenter in question is male, why should the sex of said commenter matter?

  88. 88.

    slag

    June 5, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    @shortstop: Thank you!

  89. 89.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    @slag: She meant to say that every point is marginalized. Every point of the left is a marginalized issue. Everything a black person says is marginalized. Everything that a gay person says is marginalized to a weekly publication. She couldn’t make the big step to the NYT.

    Not is a negro minute. Or homo minute.

    Just more bigotry.

  90. 90.

    ppcli

    June 5, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    @shortstop: Let’s hope the story has an extended detumescence.

    As for Cordoba – yowsa! Last time I encountered a fox with that kind of sharp intelligence and fighting spirit I married her. [22 years next October, thanks for asking.]

  91. 91.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    @shortstop: Yes, but the press may be able to tickle out additional details and the whole ugly thing may yet rear it’s head again.

  92. 92.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    @MattR: You think she is male?

  93. 93.

    TooManyJens

    June 5, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    @Lurleen:

    But it’s ok for a female to dumb down a suggestion from a front pager of a job at the NYT to a weekly.

    Do you think it’s at all possible that DougJ’s suggestion of a job at the NYT was, perhaps, just a tiny bit hyperbolic?

    I also really find it weird when people call women “females.” Unless they’re Ferengis, then I guess it’s normal.

  94. 94.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    @ppcli: Congratulations! And we got married the month before you did. Don’t worry; we’re sure you love her even though you dragged your heels in making that commitment.

  95. 95.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    In all my time here, this is the day that it shows.

  96. 96.

    Ed Marshall

    June 5, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    @Lurleen:

    Why do the black olives have to be in a can and the green olives are in a jar? You ever think about that?

  97. 97.

    Lyrebird

    June 5, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Wow, is this where junior concern trolls come for training?

    And thanks DougJ for a great article, and Yutsano & shortstop for really interesting backstory on Savage. Plus useful examples of awesome internship suggestions. I’ve once (so far) connected one of my students w/an internship of her dreams, that is an awesome feeling I would like to encounter again.

  98. 98.

    Joel

    June 5, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Have you guys considered using Cleek’s pie filter?

  99. 99.

    she's crafty

    June 5, 2011 at 11:37 pm

    @Lurleen: You might be slightly more convincing if you didn’t refer to human women as “females,” a noun typically used to refer to livestock.

  100. 100.

    Comrade Mary

    June 5, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    @Lurleen: Po-faced, humourless, and butthurt. You’ve hit the trifecta.

  101. 101.

    Marc

    June 5, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    The hole, it is deep. Dig further, you must not.

  102. 102.

    MattR

    June 5, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    @Lurleen: I notice you ignored the substantive question I asked.

  103. 103.

    Corner Stone

    June 5, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    @Joel: No. Why would you ask?

  104. 104.

    TooManyJens

    June 5, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    @Lurleen:

    In all my time here, this is the day that it shows.

    I know all the words, but …

  105. 105.

    MikeJ

    June 5, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    @Joel: Use it? I ported it and added a UI. And a raccoon. Yes, I added a raccoon to the pie filter. It’s just in the nightlies now though. Only on GitRaccoonhub.

  106. 106.

    Svensker

    June 5, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    @Marc:

    Black olive holes are empty, while green ones are not. Ever think of that?

  107. 107.

    opie_jeanne

    June 5, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    @Jewish Steel: I have some photos of cads who were also my uncles. You described them to a T.

  108. 108.

    Lojasmo

    June 5, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    @Lurleen:

    The troll is strong with this one.

  109. 109.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    @MikeJ: Raccoons in your pie filter, eh? turns, spits. I’m afraid that’s gonna cost ya, son.

  110. 110.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 5, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    Blog whoring – my take on rick santorum’s pre-1965 comments: American Exceptionalism

  111. 111.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    @Svensker: Racist.

  112. 112.

    Corner Stone

    June 5, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    @Svensker: Kalamatas?

  113. 113.

    Triassic Sands

    June 5, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Ignoring this “story” has become tedious. Good for Cordova for calling the Post and Politco out for what they are — drivel mongers.

    It would be nice if there were a way to sanction the Post “reporter,” who seems to have a very modern view of ethics.

    It is rare indeed for Americans to refuse to get dragged into our despicable media circus. Kudos to Cordova. I hope she holds the line.

  114. 114.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    @opie_jeanne: My google search “cad bowler mustache” turned this up:

    http://www.inmagine.com/dv173/dv173120-photo

    This looks like no uncle I’m related to, but I wish I was!

  115. 115.

    Corner Stone

    June 5, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    @Jewish Steel: I for one am more than tired of this turning and spitting disparity.

  116. 116.

    Lysana

    June 5, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    @Yutsano: Dan Savage is a fatphobe, biphobe, and transphobe. You want to call that “coolest human?” Are you sure?

  117. 117.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    many of you don’t know that people like RedKitten were involved in a scenario that was more than funny and involved people playing at one game or another.

    Just check out Red Kitten and you will know how silly all you defenders are.

    It’s just all friends and you think you are important.

  118. 118.

    Svensker

    June 5, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    No, California Colossals.

  119. 119.

    Jewish Steel

    June 5, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    @Corner Stone: That’s fair. I’ll turn or spit.

  120. 120.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    Much of this thread sounds like English translated badly into another language and then badly translated back again. I include my own contributions, of course.

  121. 121.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    The game that Red Kitten and others played reminds me of this
    Weiner scandal.

    It used to be fun, but now it hurts.

    Different days different ways.

  122. 122.

    Corner Stone

    June 5, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    @Svensker: Nothing worth while ever came outta Cali.

  123. 123.

    Svensker

    June 5, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Do you all find that raccoons falling from the ceiling make more sense than other things that are falling around here?

  124. 124.

    TooManyJens

    June 5, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    @shortstop: I had a small house of brokerage on Wall Street. Many days no business come to my hut. But Jimmy has fear? A thousand times no! I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew my monkey strong bowels were skirted with strength like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung.

    The glorious sunset of my heart was fading. Soon, the super karate monkey death car would park in my space. But Jimmy had fancy plans…and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate, round and yummy like a cute small baby chick, would beat the donkey.

    That clown, making like super American car racers, I would make him sweat. War war.

    Feel my skills, donkey donkey donkey donkey donkey.

  125. 125.

    Ed Marshall

    June 5, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    @Lurleen:

    I’m really not even sure what I’m defending. What is a Red Kitten, who am I defending, and what does it have to do with this odd tangent that has you angry?

  126. 126.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    @Svensker: All I know for sure is that Jewish Steel’s girlfriend has had it with all of us.

  127. 127.

    Lurleen

    June 5, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    @shortstop: Your blog at the chron didn’t make that Spaklie woman back down. Mission accomplished?

  128. 128.

    MattR

    June 5, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    @Svensker: It is the most logical part of this thread ;)

  129. 129.

    MikeJ

    June 5, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    @Jewish Steel:

    That’s fair. I’ll turn or spit.

    I never understood Amy. She wouldn’t turn, but then she would spit. If you don’t like the taste, it seems like you would turn beforehand. I just don’t understand the spitting.

  130. 130.

    shortstop

    June 5, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    @TooManyJens: The third baseman just came stomping out of the bedroom, presented his compliments and suggested I might want to tone down the hyena sounds.

  131. 131.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 5, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Dammit, I left that Werner Herzog movie three days ago!

  132. 132.

    cbear

    June 5, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    @TooManyJens: The BJ-fu is strong in you. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  133. 133.

    shortstop

    June 6, 2011 at 12:00 am

    @Lurleen: Kronos was the mountain of my blog and spackle was the word my enemy wore as her label and that. See you now?

  134. 134.

    Lurleen

    June 6, 2011 at 12:02 am

    Seriously, a NYT opinion page is equivalent to a column in a weekly?

  135. 135.

    Lurleen

    June 6, 2011 at 12:04 am

    @shortstop: @shortstop: No.

  136. 136.

    Lurleen

    June 6, 2011 at 12:05 am

    @shortstop: I see that you gave up.

  137. 137.

    TooManyJens

    June 6, 2011 at 12:08 am

    @shortstop: I’d like to thank the Academy, my family, and NewsRadio.

  138. 138.

    Svensker

    June 6, 2011 at 12:08 am

    @shortstop:

    Even Rick Santorum’s raccoon?

  139. 139.

    Svensker

    June 6, 2011 at 12:10 am

    @MattR:

    Completely OT, did you ever find a place and move? We ended up in Toronto, which was something of a surprise. Pleasant surprise, I might add!

    ETA: And having asked that, I must run away. Pumpkin time!

  140. 140.

    cbear

    June 6, 2011 at 12:12 am

    @Svensker: I think she was the one that witnessed Santorum’s sexual abuse of the racoon. That had to be ugly.
    No wonder she’s traumatised.

  141. 141.

    shortstop

    June 6, 2011 at 12:13 am

    @TooManyJens: I’m still laughing.

    @Svensker: Only JS can say for sure, but given the course of events here tonight, she might hate that thing most of all. Note how I skirt over the fact that the first mention of a raccoon was mine. You may all have forgotten it, but I assure you, Lurleen has not.

    Good night, my little procynonids!

  142. 142.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 6, 2011 at 12:14 am

    @Lurleen: Lurleen, you should just stop. FWIW, the world doesn’t start and end with the NYT. and Dan Savage has done more to influence Rick Santorum’s political career than Ross Douthat could ever do at the NYT, and yet, I think there is a larger issue that bears examining – why everyone has to look to the NYT as some sort of Mecca. They are snobs too. Bill Keller thinks twitter makes you dumb. they kowtow to the hampton elites. they slobber over the oddest people in the weekend magazine. It’s not like the NYT is any different than any other newspaper in the world. They just happen to be in the most populated city in the United States. Fuck, they employ David Fucking Brooks.

  143. 143.

    Mark S.

    June 6, 2011 at 12:16 am

    @shortstop:

    Much of this thread sounds like English translated badly into another language and then badly translated back again.

    That’s the damn truth, and I’m too tired to figure it out. But there is one thing I do understand, and that is Chunky Bobo is still an idiot:

    If participating in a suicide is legally and ethically acceptable, in other words, it can’t just be because cancer is brutal and dementia is dehumanizing. It can only be because there’s a right to suicide.

    God I hate these kind of arguments. There are a lot of these that are legal that you don’t have a right to. It is legal to drive but you don’t have a right to. It is legal to receive health care but you don’t have a right to it. I don’t know why conservatives think if you don’t have a right bestowed upon you by God or the Constitution it all the sudden means it’s illegal.

    And once we allow that such a right exists, the arguments for confining it to the dying seem arbitrary at best. We are all dying, day by day: do the terminally ill really occupy a completely different moral category from the rest?

    Those fucking terminally ill bastards get all the breaks! Just like the blacks and the gays!

    Douthart really isn’t any smarter than Rush Limbaugh. He just dresses his white resentment up in more flowery language.

  144. 144.

    MikeJ

    June 6, 2011 at 12:17 am

    @shortstop: FYWP ate my best raccoon comment. FTFY and FYWP. I want to compete for most hated.

  145. 145.

    MattR

    June 6, 2011 at 12:19 am

    @Svensker: Nope. Market too dead to sell so I gave up since there was no major need other than convenience. Will think about it again come New Year’s.

    Love Toronto. Used to travel there for business quite frequently, though not anymore – my final trip up there was in March. If I ever have to escape to the Great White North I am torn between Toronto and Vancouver.

    @Mark S.: Personally, I have never understood the idea the suicide is a crime. If you are of sound mind and decide that this world is no longer for you, I would love to convince you otherwise but I won’t stop you if you decide to end your life. It also seems to run counter to the conservative principles of personal responsibility and keeping government small and non-intrusive to legislate against suicide.

  146. 146.

    eemom

    June 6, 2011 at 12:23 am

    once I witnessed a young woman who was clearly mentally ill, though trying to appear normal, being mocked by a group of children.

    I think that’s what is happening here, substituting the ambiguities of cybercommunication for the innocent cruelty of children.

  147. 147.

    Lurleen

    June 6, 2011 at 12:24 am

    @arguingwithsignposts: Your argument is with DougJ, not me.

  148. 148.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 6, 2011 at 12:25 am

    @Lurleen: ORLY?

  149. 149.

    Mark B

    June 6, 2011 at 12:29 am

    @eemom: The difference being that the child is trapped in the situation, and adults on the internet choose to be there. Mocking the stupid is a time-honored Internet tradition … Really, you don’t have to play by the Marquis of Queensbury rules in a comment thread. If someone else isn’t acting in good faith, you are allowed to jerk them around, as far as I’m concerned.

  150. 150.

    Dee Loralei

    June 6, 2011 at 12:30 am

    @Lurleen: Dear God, are you always this obtuse? We think Yutsano is a male because he says he is a male. We think Shortstop is a female because she says she is and often talks about The Second Basemen who is her husband. We all think Gennette Cordova is a woman. I think you are getting your pronouns all mis-assigned when you’ve been chatting here tonight. Because no one is that blissfully stupid, unless it is willingly so.

    When DougJ. ( also a male) suggested the NYT hire Cordova (please note that I am using Ms. Cordova’s last name as an identifier, according her the same respect I would give any male newsmaker.) to be on their editorial staff, he was practicing something most educated humans know as hyperbole. ( I’ll allow you av million minutes to look-up a definition.)

    Male Commenter “Yutsano” agreed Cordova deserved some high accolades and the offer of a permanent job, or at the very least an internship with a prestigious publication, because she has shown herself to be a stand-up, honest and straight-forward broker of information, and one who was not afraid to confront the status quo. Cordova deserves everyone’s respect for that. ( Afflicting the comfortable is one of the higher callings of the old fashioned journalist.)

    Yutsano also noticed ( as did all who read the linked article) that Cordova,is attending an institute of higher learning and is a journalism major at a local community college. And that a group of inbred parochials who attend Yale, Harvard and Princeton and end up writing for the NYT, the WaPO, The LATimes etc, would not gleefully welcome amongst their hallowed halls a “simple girl” from a “community college” immediately into their midsts. Not even to fetch coffee. That’s for the folks from the lesser Ivies and Northwestern, etc.

    Yutsano’s quick, spur of the moment fix was to have her intern at a respectable local journalism establishment, which wouldn’t cost her any out of pocket expenses such as she might incur moving to NYC or DC. But would give her some cred she might be able to use later on in order to get a more prestigious job. And he was giving her a leg up and a way in to eventually get that job on the editorial writing staff of the NYT. She just needs to prove herself to be more capable that the class of journalists that comes from the Ivies.

  151. 151.

    MikeJ

    June 6, 2011 at 12:32 am

    @Mark B: I’m with you. There’s no reason to assume that everybody on the internet is as retarded as they act.

  152. 152.

    cbear

    June 6, 2011 at 12:33 am

    @eemom: I don’t think sockpuppets are quite as sensitive as you may imagine, although I’m sure you can come up with some new -ism to blame for their abuse.

  153. 153.

    Lurleen

    June 6, 2011 at 12:35 am

    @Dee Loralei: been her longer than you.

    It’s also a norm that the females on this blog are behind the times.

    Just look at SPT claiming she is the same as Hunter Thompson.

    You figure it out.

  154. 154.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 6, 2011 at 12:35 am

    @TooManyJens: Worse, the troll is referring to Yutsy as female. If it weren’t so obviously insane, I’d suspect Doug J and shout “Bravo.” (You have my email, and I’ll never tell.)

  155. 155.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 12:36 am

    @Mark S.:

    do the terminally ill really occupy a completely different moral category from the rest?

    Teh stoopid, it burns.

    @Dee Loralei: Wow. I can’t really say anything more there really. And yes I do indeed possess a phallus on my anatomy.

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Sigh. What does a gay man gotta do to get any respect around here? Do I gotta prove my homosexual bona fides?

  156. 156.

    MattR

    June 6, 2011 at 12:38 am

    @Yutsano:

    And yes I do indeed possess a phallus on my anatomy.

    Pictures or we don’t believe you.

  157. 157.

    Lurleen

    June 6, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Fat kitten seems to think I should go to bed.

    So it shall be.

  158. 158.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 12:40 am

    @MattR: Last time I checked this was a family blog. Or at the very least avoiding the NSFW label.

  159. 159.

    Jewish Steel

    June 6, 2011 at 12:40 am

    @eemom: Yes, as I am working here I was considering the same thing. The only thing is that SPaT indicated the the subject in questions was a known poster sock puppeting. I’ve only been here c. 1y, so if there is a known poster who is also subject to paranoid delusions (I know, I know, I mean of the schizophrenic kind) I am unaware of them.

  160. 160.

    cbear

    June 6, 2011 at 12:43 am

    @Lurleen: Jeez DougJ, wasn’t that just a little too obvious, dude? And you were doing so well up to now, almost 3 hrs in character. Salute.

  161. 161.

    Comrade Mary

    June 6, 2011 at 12:45 am

    @MattR: For some reason, the word “phallus” brings this to mind. (Fear not, it’s safe for work.)

  162. 162.

    TooManyJens

    June 6, 2011 at 12:45 am

    @Yutsano:

    Last time I checked this was a family blog.

    As long as it’s not a Family blog.

  163. 163.

    Jewish Steel

    June 6, 2011 at 12:46 am

    FYWP!

    Lemme try that again:

    @eemom: Yes, as I am working here I was considering the same thing. The only thing is that SPaT indicated the the subject in questions was a known poster sock puppeting. I’ve only been here c. 1y, so if there is a known poster who is also subject to paranoid delusions (I know, I know, I mean of the schizophrenic kind) I am unaware of them.

  164. 164.

    eemom

    June 6, 2011 at 12:46 am

    @Mark B:

    there’s a difference between stupid/not acting in good faith, and mentally disturbed. Mentally disturbed people do occasionally post on blogs. There was an infamous example over at FDL a few years back where such a person was actually elevated to the status of a front-pager based on his delusions of grandeur — a splendiforous example of Lady Jane’s rigorous rules of fact-checking — before the truth became sadly apparent.

    fwiw, there were a couple of folks on good Sarah’s thread last night who concurred in my suspicion. But maybe y’all are right — maybe it is just a troll and/or sock puppet. I don’t know.

  165. 165.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    June 6, 2011 at 12:46 am

    @Yutsano: I was trying to respect you. I didn’t know you wanted to be called “she.” Have a dandy evening there sweet pea.

    And everybody else too. Pumpkin time here chez Q.

  166. 166.

    newhavenguy

    June 6, 2011 at 12:47 am

    AMEN(!)

  167. 167.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 12:48 am

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Damn Interwebs for not picking up vocal inflection. That was snarky exasperation. Unless you’re snarking back. Then well played.

  168. 168.

    gwangung

    June 6, 2011 at 12:49 am

    @Lurleen: You, of course, are willing to foot Ms Cordova’s bills when she goes to NYC or DC?

  169. 169.

    Mark B

    June 6, 2011 at 12:50 am

    @eemom: I don’t know either, but assuming someone is stupid and trying to play down to that is patronizing and condescending. I’d almost rather deal with the ridicule. I guess I could play Wheatley’s apology from the end of Portal 2 if I’m wrong.

  170. 170.

    MikeJ

    June 6, 2011 at 12:57 am

    @Yutsano: So are we having beers or gin and stuff with SoBeale shows?

    Can we hereby declare that SoBeale is responsible for reminding us a week or two in advance and helping set up the meet?

  171. 171.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 1:00 am

    @MikeJ: Pick a downtown Irish pub. Any downtown Irish pub. I’ll do my damndest to show up. Ad since SoBeale is the one who knows her schedule, then I agree she should gently remind us when the day gets closer.

  172. 172.

    MikeJ

    June 6, 2011 at 1:10 am

    @Yutsano: Why Irish? Nothing against Irish (heck, my ancestors invaded and killed thousands of them), but given all the places in Seattle I’d probably go with one of the best cocktail bars in the US, Zig Zag.

    But Irish is fine with me.

  173. 173.

    Comrade Kevin

    June 6, 2011 at 1:19 am

    I have found a picture of our Lurleen.

  174. 174.

    Dee Loralei

    June 6, 2011 at 1:19 am

    @MikeJ: @Yutsano: Well hell if we’re planning drinks, I’ll be in N’Awlins last weekend in June. Anyone wanna meet up?

    @Yutsano: I almost never ever talk to the trolls, this one pissed me off. Especially when one claims sexist shit where none exists. It diminishes the real sexist shit that’s been coming from real Republican State Houses, Governorships and the US House.

    Let’s be honest here, we all know that there will be a class war soon , unless things drastically change, and folks get back to work making enough money to survive, save and to occasionally splurge. Something that harkens to the French Revolution, guillotines and all, plus a lot of new stuff, ( they were the ones who made torture acceptable.)

    But the men and the women who voted in every way to make a woman’s autonomy lesser will be treated accordingly. And the ones who think rape or incest are OK reasons to force a woman to carry to term a baby she does not want, will face a special plebiscite.

    I’m mostly a lazy ass, so none of the violence will be from me. But fuck yea, will I cheer it on!

  175. 175.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 1:35 am

    @MikeJ: No particular reason or bias other than proximity to my workplace and where I park my car. There just happen to be several Irish pubs not far from the Jackson Federal Building. It’s what happens when you’re that close to Pioneer Square. I’m pretty flexible for just about anywhere.

  176. 176.

    asiangrrlMN

    June 6, 2011 at 1:42 am

    @Yutsano:
    @MikeJ: I would love to meet up with you guys and SoBeale! I’m envious.

  177. 177.

    ruemara

    June 6, 2011 at 1:45 am

    I checked back in for some late evening humour and this fit the bill. I think I like Ms. Cordoba. But this thread has me very confused. How is what offensive what what now?

  178. 178.

    Bill Murray

    June 6, 2011 at 1:47 am

    @Yutsano:

    And yes I do indeed possess a phallus on my anatomy.

    and you promise someday to give it back to Mr. Bobbitt

  179. 179.

    Dee Loralei

    June 6, 2011 at 1:49 am

    @Lurleen: Dear God, you silly, insuferable twit of a twat, SPandT never claimed to be Hunter S. Thompson, though she may have claimed to do him. She’s more Johnathan Swift. More Mark Twain and Will Rogers. More Jane Austin and latter day Edith Wharton. In other words “she” has all the bona fides and the mannerisms of a well bred society maven, but none of the actual hangups of said class of people. ( Ok, other than her desire to kill and harm her said class of folks.)

    Pro/tip: when one pretends to be from the noble class, one does not acquire a voice from the untermenschen.

    I don’t give a flying fuck how old Sarah is, or what her sex is. She’s mostly a hoot to read. And I appreciate that about the persona of Sarah Plain and Tall, ever so much more than I appreciate the persona that is ” Lurleen.”

  180. 180.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 1:50 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Get on plane. Plane go to Sea-Tac. We pick you up from plane. Wish granted!

  181. 181.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 1:51 am

    @Bill Murray: FYWP for no haz edit.

    Well maybe…but only if he’ll stop being a dickhead.

  182. 182.

    eemom

    June 6, 2011 at 1:53 am

    @Mark B:

    can you fucking read? I wasn’t talking about STUPID.

    fuck it. Over and out.

  183. 183.

    asiangrrlMN

    June 6, 2011 at 1:56 am

    @Yutsano: That would be way cool. Let me know when it’s happening. I’ll see if I can swing it. And not my phallus. I don’t have one.

  184. 184.

    Comrade Kevin

    June 6, 2011 at 2:15 am

    @eemom: It’s a wonder anyone tries to have a conversation with you at all.

  185. 185.

    Gromitt Gunn (formerly JMC_in_the_ATL)

    June 6, 2011 at 2:19 am

    The only other Lurleen I know online is a front pager at the Blend. Please let this not be the same person.

    (Oh, since I’m no longer in the ATL, it was time for a change. I’m sure Ms. Duinne will be happy to have her initials back!)

  186. 186.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2011 at 2:19 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Psst. Otterz. One thread down. You’re welcome.

  187. 187.

    El Cid

    June 6, 2011 at 3:11 am

    I am terribly offended by your comments.

  188. 188.

    asiangrrlMN

    June 6, 2011 at 3:13 am

    @Yutsano: Fanks.

  189. 189.

    JGabriel

    June 6, 2011 at 3:33 am

    @Jewish Steel:

    Ah, now I look like a cad.

    If it makes you feel better — or at least a little less alone — I onced mocked Carly Fiorina for looking like a cross between Pee Wee Herman and Max Von Sydow, right before finding out she had cancer.

    I just remind myself that, no matter what any of us say of anyone, none of us will ever top Dick Cheney shooting a man in the face.

    .

  190. 190.

    bago

    June 6, 2011 at 3:34 am

    Two comments.
    1 Lurleen is dense.
    2 Dan Savage is also a pretty decent DJ. Saw him at the re-bar not too long ago.

  191. 191.

    maus

    June 6, 2011 at 3:55 am

    @Lurleen:

    What Dan Savage has done with “It Gets Better” is phenomenal. What it has fuck all to do with post is a mystery.

    It would help to read the explanations given before you respond.

    Dan Savage is a fatphobe, biphobe, and transphobe. You want to call that “coolest human?” Are you sure?

    1 partially, yes. 2 not quite. 3 I don’t see how. His specious “everyone is not designed to be monogamous and we should structure our sexual partners like bonobos” is also disappointing, but I still think he’s an OK person, and more positive than harmful on the whole.

    Nobody should take a Relationship/Sex column author as objective truth with all of their advice.

  192. 192.

    maus

    June 6, 2011 at 4:03 am

    @193: I was at the Re-Bar last night! Jackie Beat + Bacon Strip, songs about assholes and stepping out for a bit to have corn dogs from City Market, couldn’t go wrong.

  193. 193.

    Sarah Proud and Tall

    June 6, 2011 at 4:27 am

    @eemom:

    once I witnessed a young woman who was clearly mentally ill, though trying to appear normal, being mocked by a group of children. I think that’s what is happening here, substituting the ambiguities of cybercommunication for the innocent cruelty of children.

    I’m not sure if that’s what is happening. Who knows? I do know that I regret egging Lurlene on, whoever she is, and I particularly regret my IP address comment. It was a stupid thing to say, particularly as a fictional being myself. Glass houses and all that. The perils of being a new blogger.

    @Dee Loralei:

    @Lurleen: Dear God, you silly, insufferable twit of a twat, SPandT never claimed to be Hunter S. Thompson, though she may have claimed to do him. She’s more Johnathan Swift. More Mark Twain and Will Rogers. More Jane Austin and latter day Edith Wharton.

    I don’t think I belong in such august company, but thankyou dear.

  194. 194.

    eemom

    June 6, 2011 at 11:04 am

    @Comrade Kevin:

    Ok, NOW we can talk about stupid.

  195. 195.

    eemom

    June 6, 2011 at 11:06 am

    @Sarah Proud and Tall:

    YOU didn’t do anything wrong. Crazy or not, she showed up on your thread just to be an asshole to you. Your reaction was perfectly justified.

  196. 196.

    grandpajohn

    June 6, 2011 at 11:35 am

    @Mark B: Our Raccoons come through the door onto the back porch to raid the cat food, if the bowl is empty, they lift the lid on the big food container and climb in to feed, the used to turn the container over so I had to c lose it in. Sometimes however it the the Opossums that do the raiding instead of raccoons. By the way , I live in town and have these raiders oh and my wife sometimes when looking out the window at the little park across the street , notices the Deer running up the sidewalk or through the park, but so far that haven ‘t got on the back porch

  197. 197.

    Bulworth

    June 6, 2011 at 11:41 am

    “If you want to know my position on this whole thing,” she added late Friday, “I suggest avoiding @Newyorkpost and @politico. It’s pure slop.”

    Bonus points for calling out Politico.

  198. 198.

    Catsy

    June 6, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Lurleen actually reminds me quite a lot of my ex from eons ago. Crazy as crazy gets while still being able to string words together into (more or less) grammatical sentences, but don’t make the mistake of thinking her crazy is about you.

    The tell is in this non-sequitur:

    So let’s recap: DougJ suggests that a young woman should have a place at the table of the NYT. A female here thinks that cheering said young woman get an unpaid internship with a free weekly is a tag-along is fine and not bigoted.

    Or, in an alternative universe where not everyone is motivated by sexism, there are a number of other possible explanations, most of which have been suggested upthread and soared so far over Lurleen’s head that she couldn’t find them with the Hubble and a PhD in astrophysics. These include:

    – Dan Savage is relatively local to this young woman, whereas the NYT is on the opposite coast–and she might not, you know, want to relocate like that

    – Most people here not only hold Dan Savage and his work in much higher regard than the glorified stenography that passes for journamalism at the NYT, they would view such an internship as a mark of great prestige rather than an insult by comparison

    – DougJ routinely closes posts with hyperbolic one-liners, and it stretches plausibility to think that anyone–man or woman–who hasn’t yet graduated from college would be given a paid gig at the NYT, which places far more value on credentials than credibility

    – Internships are an entirely appropriate suggestion as a path to a career for a college student

    These are fairly obvious points that shouldn’t have to be called out this bluntly. Anyone both following this story and familiar with Savage would know of the geographical connection, and any regular reader of B-J would be well aware of both the general esteem in which we hold Savage and DougJ’s hyperbolic writing style.

    One possibility is that Lurleen is a sockpuppet or an entity otherwise arguing in bad faith. I prefer to avoid accusations of bad faith without evidence, so it seems more charitable to assume that Lurleen is simply unaware of the culture of Ballon Juice, the details of this story, or Internet traditions in general.

    That’s okay.

    But it does leave Lurleen in the embarrassing position of having made an accusation of sexism absent any evidence whatsoever of such. There certainly wasn’t anything inherently sexist about the internship suggestion. Nobody made any kind of qualifying statement that hinged on her gender, implied or otherwise. Lurleen has yet to–in this entire thread–present a single quote from anyone which led her to suspect sexism.

    Funny thing, that. I’m pretty sure there’s a word for people who try to make an issue about a person’s gender rather than their qualifications or merits, and who categorize the world and the people in it in terms of their gender rather than their individual circumstances.

    Oh, right! That’s sexism.

    If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem becomes a nail. Congratulations on being a first-order tool, Lurleen. If you find that you’re seeing sexism around every corner, there’s a good chance that it’s you who’s putting it there.

  199. 199.

    Church Lady

    June 6, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    If Genette Cordova didn’t get the dic pic from Weiner, she must be one of few of his followers that never received that type of gift. It looks like gals are now coming out of the woodwork to share their Weiner pics and private conversations between them and the horn dog Congressman Anyone want to guess the date for his resignation announcement?

  200. 200.

    Catsy

    June 6, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    @Church Lady: Better trolls, please. The least you could do is provide a link to some right-wing rag that supports your nonsense.

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