If you haven’t been following the clusterfuck online, Weiner just did a presser where he admitted he sent the photos. Prior to that, Andrew Breitbart randomly showed up and hijacked the presser for twenty minutes, crowing about how he deserves to be vindicated because of Leftist smears. Then Weiner took the stage, did the old Lewinsky two-step, complete with crying.
For fuck’s sake.
So to recap: It was Weiner’s junk; He’s had many inappropriate online relationships with young women; Breitbart FTW; Everybody Wang Chung tonight.
So now what?
As of this afternoon, no one in the MSM has bothered to report on the Clarence Thomas connection. I fully believe that Breitbart’s cronies knew for weeks about this Weiner business and timed it to distract from the real issue which, as Allan Brauer pointed out last week, is CLARENCE THOMAS. Whether or not Anthony Weiner is a dipshit for lying about his junk photos (and in my view he is, not because I give a shit what goes on between two consenting adults and the lies that inevitably result when a person is busted for their sexual chicanery, but because he wasted TEN DAYS that could have been spent finding another Democrat to pick up the Clarence Thomas ball and run with it), the fact remains that he is the only Democrat who was making a stink about the Friday evening Thomas financial document dump.
So now the MSM is going to kiss Breitbart’s ass while he crows about how awesome he is. And by the time the dust settles, not one person (besides Allan, apparently) will have examined just what the fuck is going on with Clarence Thomas and his Teabilly wife.
I hate everything.
[via Talking Points Memo]
jheartney
Yup. Nail, meet hammer.
Hunter Gathers
On the bright side, Deficit Hysteria will be replaced by Weiner Hysteria for a week.
He is a fool of the highest caliber.
Mike Kay (True Grit)
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13th Generation
I fucking hate brietbart. Unfortunately, he’s getting pretty good at what he does.
Warren Terra
I don’t want him to resign, because of the circus involved. But – because of the cover-up, not the behavior, no matter how deeply weird I find that – I do want him to shut his trap, try not to attract attention, and not run for re-election. And, of course, I want someone who’s not an utter moron given to behavior that begs for their humiliation to pick up on the substantive issues that this asshole’s human frailties have prevented from getting any attention.
wenchacha
There’s some unsavory news about Clarence Thomas???
Too bad there was no interweb back when old “Cooz” was sexually harassing women. We might have gotten somebody else on the Court. OTOH, that Justice might have been as bad or worse than Thomas. If that is possible, once you rule out Scalito.
Citizen Alan
Right there with you.
Crap like this is how third party movements are born. It’s not that there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans. That’s garbage. It’s that no matter how evil Republicans are, the Democrats are so bone-dead STUPID that you end up hating them nearly as much.
Here’s an idea: Require everyone in the Democratic Caucus to eat breakfast together three times a week and put some god-damned saltpeter in the coffee. Maybe if the Democrats could stop thinking about their penises, they could actually do their damned jobs.
Larkspur
Yeah, me too. Damn, Anthony, why’d you have to go make Breitbart look marginally credible?
Knucklehead. I hope Weiner’s wife scorches his suppers* from now till Labor Day. For starters.
I’ll get over it. I just have to avoid the news for a day or two.
*it’s just a saying. I don’t assume she does the cooking, although if she does, I think she should Tweet him his meals from now on.
LM
You have perfectly summed up my feelings. I could throttle Weiner for giving Breitbart credibility just when it seemed he’d lost it for good. And did he not foresee that sexting with a stranger would bite him in the butt (excuse the visual)? I don’t care about his bitten butt, but I do seriously care about Breitbart looking all shiny and smug today. Cable and the interwebs are going to be just insufferable. More insufferable. Aargh.
Anne Laurie
Kay deserves some credit, here.
dollared
@Warren Terra: I want him to apologize, cry and then go out there and kick ass.
He owes us more, not less, and if he resigns, everything gets worse for all of us.
Villago Delenda Est
What a fucktard.
Anthony Weiner. WIENER. He is. He’s a stupid dumbshit.
Fuck him. He’s saved Clarence Thomas. Either by stupidity, or by design.
Larkspur
@dollared:
Very nicely put, dollared. If I did that whole Twitter thing, I would tweet this to Weiner.
GregB
@LM:
Heh, heh, heh…throttle Wiener…
Gin & Tonic
The bright side is, Rick Santorum’s announcement that he’s running doesn’t get a second of coverage tonight. Rick who?
Josie
@Anne Laurie: Kay deserves tons of credit for doing her homework and blogging about issues that will directly impact elections and our lives. I haven’t said “thank you” enough to her and am saying it now.
Southern Beale
Ha ha ha !!!
It’s “The Wenis”…
LOL.
JoyousMN
DAMMIT! ABL said EXACTLY what I think. DAMN DAMN DAMN
Mothra
I’m with you, ABL. I hate everything right now. I hate that Clarence Thomas wiggles off the hook, or may wiggle off the hook, and I hate that Breitbart is right for the first time in a row.
wenchacha
Just once if one of our guys copped to the truth and didn’t squirm trying to defend themselves. It would looks so much less pathetic.
eemom
yeah, I hate everything too, and I’ll go ahead and resay what I said below, which is that I can’t fucking BELIEVE Cole et al are defending this asshole for “taking his lumps.”
FUCK.
Joseph Nobles
The only thing I disagree with is this: “I fully believe that Breitbart’s cronies knew for weeks about this Weiner business and timed it to distract from the real issue…”
Weiner sent the tweet of the picture. Breitbart’s cronies could not have timed Weiner doing that. It is simply a coincidence that Weiner screwed up on the same day Clarence Thomas did his latest document dump. It happened the way that Breitbart and Dan Wolfe (patriotusa76) said that it happened.
Something that is going unremarked is that Breitbart did throw Dan Wolfe under the bus. Breitbart started attacking him on Twitter and published private emails about Wolfe’s situation. In other words, BREITBART BEGAN TO DOUBT THE STORY AS WELL.
jnfr
Atrios summed it up perfectly:
The Wenis
Finally a happy press corps.
jnfr
@Southern Beale:
Damn! SB slipped in while BJ was hiccuping.
jheartney
I’d hate that Clarence Thomas wiggled off the hook, except I don’t think he was ever on one. At this point you could have videotape of him bargaining for money with the Koch brothers over the language he’d put into an opinion, and it would still be impossible to get rid of him. Remember you’d need GOP votes to convict if you tried impeaching, and you will never get those.
RossInDetroit
Benen’s headline is a win:
Weiner comes clean
13th Generation
@Joseph Nobles:
Wow. A defense of breitbart. Good luck with that.
Mike Kay (True Grit)
I’m shocked!
I’m shocked!
When will bloggers learn. This is EXACTLY what bloggers did when evidence of Edwards’ affair and later his love child appeared – they raced to defend him.
http://mydd.com/2007/10/11/national-enquirer-wonkette-bullshit-bucket
Being based in reality means you can’t have knee jerk reactions.
Oh well. Maybe you’ll get the hang of it next time.
Rhoda
I’m glad he didn’t have his wife up there with him; hopefully this will be over by Wednesday.
Mothra
Yes, the reporters are probably all smoking a cigarette right now.
I like the idea that Breitbart started to doubt the story so he threw Wolfe under the bus-shows you most of what you need to know about Breitbart’s character.
The timing is remarkable.
PeakVT
Meh. I only hate our media. And ABL for insisting I click on this post.
RossInDetroit
More Benen:
El Tiburon
What a fucking tool and idiot. I ain’t saying he should resign, in fact, he should give a big fuck you every time he gives an interview.
But what a fucking idiot and tool. What, did he think he was a Republican?
Tool. Idiot.
Mattminus
Is it wrong that the thing I find most disturbing about all this is the fact that he wasn’t even getting any pussy?
rikyrah
I don’t hate everything, ABL.
but, our Mama’s told us…
never give the White man the rope with which to hang you.
I guess Weiner’s Mama never gave him the same lesson.
Joseph Nobles
@13th Generation: Is that a defense of Breitbart? I’d consider it a defense of truth.
And I did point out some rather shameful actions of Breitbart now seen in context. He was right, patriotusa76 was right, but Breitbart threw him under the bus. That’s the level of pond scum Breitbart is.
Lyrebird
@Mike Kay (True Grit): If ours (whoever “we” are) are knee-jerk reactions, what are the reactions of Republican Senators? Spitzer resigned, Vitter’s still on the job…
Natasha
Wait! Did I lose the thread? I thought we were supposed to think he was gay? At least that was the Freeper chatter a couple of years ago …
cleek
sadly, you don’t get to decide what “the real issue” is.
arguingwithsignposts
@jheartney:
Yeah, because first you’d have to find him writing an opinion.
JPL
@jheartney: I agree. The media was not going to cover Thomas unless his wife made another inappropriate telephone call. I am glad the Weiner tried to call him out but he was the only one and it was not going to gain traction.
Natasha
“Wait! Did I lose the thread? I thought we were supposed to think he was gay? At least that was the Freeper chatter a couple of years ago …”
Clarification: “He” is Rep Weiner, not Breitbart …
Yevgraf (fka Michael)
Stupid cocksucker needs to resign. This one gave Breitbart credibility for all his prior lies.
Fred
The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.
Brachiator
@RossInDetroit: “shared adult content.”That’s gotta be about the dumbest thing I have read on the internets all week, and it’s only Monday. I don’t think the guy should resign, but anyone who ignores the sleaze factor is just fooling themselves.
JPL
@rikyrah: What does that even mean? People of all races actually sext.. am I missing something?
Svensker
Yup. But some stuff more than other stuff.
Giving Breitbart cover is some big stuff.
Oh well, it’s iced coffee time with EXTRA sugar! (I lead an exciting life.)
RossInDetroit
@Brachiator:
Have to disagree. Adult stuff between adults, accidentally discovered. Unsavory to us perhaps but the actual people involved appear to be consenting.
Have to separate the stupidity of accidentally making it public from the communication itself, in my view.
JPL
Breitbart doesn’t bother me. He lives another day to screw up. He just wants to be the next Drudge.
Villago Delenda Est
It’s never the “crime”.
It’s always the coverup.
Weiner blew it. The lesson is out there, again and again and again.
Yes, it’s embarrassing. It was a dumb thing to do. The REALLY dumb thing was to deny it, to make idiotic statements like “I can’t say with certitude it’s not a picture of me”, crap like that.
He should know what kind of infantile mindset grips a media establishment that operates on pretty much the same level as Eric Cartman.
Doing the dumb thing was dumb. But hemming and hawing about it for days was even dumber.
Suffern ACE
@Mike Kay (True Grit): Like the knee jerk reaction that you have putting folk down whenever democrats to the left of you are disappointed. So classy yourself. So above emotional stupidity, I’m sure.
Mouse Tolliver
He needs to go have lunch with Barney Frank and get some pointers on how to survive a sex scandal. Frank survived an actual sex scandal, not a virtual one.
boss bitch
ALL of what you just said right there. ALL OF IT!
Lyrebird
@JPL: Mebbe it emphasizes that when you know you’ll be under (possibly unfair) scrutiny anyway, try not to give the scrutinizers any material?
bago
Weiner needs to sack up and take on the Vitters, Gingrichs, and Giulianis on the and stick it out to the end. Hike that Appalachian trail! Tap those toes.
MazeDancer
I’m John Edwards angry.
Anthony Weiner has gone from firebrand advancing the cause with powerful truth to punchline and harmed us all.
NY Magazine has a report from one of the 6 women he carried on with online. She says he sent naked erect pics, too. http://goo.gl/8ai5Q This is not going to go away until Weiner does.
Even Ghandi couldn’t keep it in his pants. Dr King. JFK. Do not understand why men sabotage their lives like this.
Or after all that has happened before can’t understand simple rule: Get elected, no extramarital sex and no sexting.
Anne Laurie
@JPL:
Well, when someone in my working-class Irish/Italian Bronx neighborhood got caught doing something embarrassing, my first-generation-American skim-milk-blue pale parents would say: “Never give the king an excuse to have you hanged.” I believe this is a variant of Rickyrah’s mom’s motto: Those of us in socially marginalized groups — like Democratic politicians facing a Repub-weighted media — have to be extra-cautious about our behaviour, even in nominally ‘private’ areas.
grandpajohn
@cleek: Well as far as the MSM is concerned, The issue never was and never will be Thomas.
Paul W.
I dunno, that was a real man’s apology to me. He described what went wrong in detail, fessed up, and apologized publicly and authentically. As long as nothing else comes up I don’t see why we should hold this against him.
The idiot hounding him is another story, but that’s just the way the Republican press operation works: slander and lie until something sticks/turns out to be partly true. The media is the only one giving folks like him power.
JPL
@Anne Laurie: I grew up in a factory town in MA and I found the comment offensive. My parents didn’t use those terms.
Suffern ACE
@bago: Page those pages. Change those diapers. Live with his “secret second family” on the weekends. Hide those checks to the maid. Wash that blue dress and move on.
Again, the long list that we could create should have been a tip off to Weiner – IF YOU ARE NOT LIKED, IT WILL LEAK. I guess he thought people liked him.
Villago Delenda Est
@grandpajohn:
Of course not. They were going to ignore the actual actions of the corrupt Thomas regardless.
But anyone making hay about it is subject to scrutiny that Thomas would never survive, if it were applied to him.
IOKIYAR is the rule, at all times. The media has rules, and one of the rules is that Republicans committing actual crimes get a free pass.
Yevgraf (fka Michael)
PS – The next “internet pixelization imaging expertisifier” who starts babbling about “his professional opinion” on imaging hes reading on his computer needs to get a ball gag stuffed in his mouth.
It didn’t work with the parsing of Obama’s posted birth certificates, and it is bullshit now.
RossInDetroit
@Anne Laurie:
My (black) boss frequently tells me (white) “Don’t give them a bullet to shoot you with”
lamh34
BTW, cnn reporting: nancy pelois asks for possible ethic probe investigation against Weiner!
arguingwithsignposts
@lamh34: I’m surprised she beat Darryl Issa to that.
Mike Kay (True Grit)
@Suffern ACE: No knee jerk, here. Not once did I state an opinion on Weiner’s culpability. I had no idea if he was guilty or innocent.
People should resist the urge to “solve the puzzle” when so few pieces are on the board.
ABL
@Anne Laurie: indeed. i missed that post. thanks.
maus
@Yevgraf (fka Michael):
Apparently you’re missing where the media gave Breitbart credibility from the beginning, and throughout all his many failures before this success.
Obama following his lead on ACORN and all the other incidents, and Weiner resigning would give Breitbart total credibility.
RossInDetroit
@lamh34:
She must be fairly certain nothing will come of it. Nothing kills interest in a juicy scandal like turning it into boring hearings and reports.
ABL
@Mike Kay (True Grit): Um, I don’t know what your giggling and ranting at. My point was never that Rep Weiner didn’t send the photos. I don’t give a shit. I didn’t give a shit about Clinton either. What I DO give a shit about is the fact that the day of the Thomas document dump, Breitbart created this controversy. Rather than ‘fess up to it then, Weiner stalled for 10 fucking days. And now this week’s news cycle is a wash as well.
And the media in their infinite stupidity is going to interview anyone who’s ever been in a 5 mile radius of Weiner’s dick, and the Thomases continue to make a mockery of the judiciary.
I’m particularly pissed off about this because it seems like I’ve spent 10 years in a profession that, in the end, may not mean dick.
ugh.
ABL
@dollared: but he won’t do that, because he’ll be too busy feeling sorry for himself and feeling embarrassed. I swear, when he started crying, I wanted to punch my TV.
“Yeah, it was my dick. Now let’s talk about WHY this story came out when it did.”
That’s what I wanted to hear. Not whining about his stupid bullshit.
ABL
@Paul W.: because he wasted time. i really could care less about his apology. he needs to apologize to the american people for the distraction weinergate caused, not about weinergate itself.
Jimperson Zibb (formerly Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)
@LM:
Yes, that’s the real crime here, to my mind, making Andrew Breitbart look like he knows anything about anything. Shit. Breitbart is going to pull his little stunts one time too many, and it will blow up in his face and discredit him for good sooner or later, but I’d sure rather it was sooner rather than later. Who knows how many decent people just trying to get by he’s going to smear and get fired before he goes down for good. It’ll be a lot more now that it turns out he was right about this.
Why didn’t Weiner just own up to it from the beginning? That might have helped it blow over sooner. Sometimes this kind of thing isn’t as riveting to our fearless press when there isn’t any conflict. If he’d just said, “Yeah, you got me. I sent it. I guess that wasn’t too bright, eh? Well, color me embarrased!” Then he could have faded into the background while somebody else took the lead with this Thomas thing. Now, who knows, his fair complaint about Thomas’s conflicts of interest might all end up looking less credible to the zombies in the press because he lied about his dick! He’s untrustworthy! I hope I’m wrong about that much at least, but I don’t know…
RossInDetroit
I’m pissed at Weiner but this is small potatoes compared to Edwards seeking the nomination with an affair behind him like a time bomb that would blow the Dems’ chances in the general election.
Not could, would blow them up. That’s far worse.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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Ha ha, ABL resorts to censorship.
But when that’s all you have, I suppose you have to work it hard or go home.
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maus
@Jimperson Zibb (formerly Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.):
Yes, but his cronies can get arrested, and still not lose one bit of credibility or power.
Why do you believe that the media is so interested in credibility? Enforcing a false even-handedness ensures that they will continue to stoop as low as they need to “balance”.
Villago Delenda Est
@RossInDetroit:
Have to go along with you on this. It’s fortunate that Edwards placed so poorly in the primaries, in retrospect, to remove him from any serious contention.
Weiner is small potatoes compared to the scenario that Edwards was flirting with.
The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
Well, thanks a whole fucking lot, Anthony Weiner, for making Breitbart the Media Golden Boy again and giving him all the reason in the world to celebrate. Not that the media needs too much excuse, but fuck all, we’re gonna get at least a year and a half of people fluffing him as the Super Truth Genius of Forever now.
Thanks a whole fucking lot. Next time, do us a favor, keep it in your pants, or at least come clean first thing and don’t dick around on us.
Villago Delenda Est
@maus:
It’s much simpler than that.
Breitbart provides the sort of content that attracts eyeballs, in the same way that traffic slows down in the northbound lanes to check out whatever just happened in the southbound lanes.
And attracting eyeballs is all that the game is about. Ratings, ratings, ratings. Nothing else matters.
We need dirty laundry!
maus
@Villago Delenda Est: Right, I agree. The even-handedness is what it’s framed as, just as the rest of the uninteresting garbage is framed “human interest”.
ABL
@Uncle Clarence Thomas: what the fuck are you talking about, jackass?
bottyguy
Stupid to tweet the pic, even stupider to finally admit it on a Monday. He could have copped to it on Friday and it would be old news by today and hardly made it into the papers. Now we face a whole week of Wiener weiner stories.
ABL
@eemom: UGH. i really don’t give a shit about him taking his lumps. he could have taken them 10 days ago and still given the “OOH SOMETHING SHINY AND HARD!” MSM a chance to figure out WHY this shit happened when it did.
blaaaargh
@Uncle Clarence Thomas: Seriously, what are you talking about? Do you have syphilis again or something? Brain rot?
Villago Delenda Est
@bottyguy:
Furthermore, it preempts Sarah Palin’s most recent display of her total stupidity in the news cycle.
The media is guaranteed to move on to something involving a the male sexual organ over something boring like history, any day.
RossInDetroit
The French must think this is hilarious. A boner in underpants and all America gets the vapors. We are such ninnies.
CaliCat
And this douchebag had the nerve to say that President Obama is “not a values guy”. Weiner is a liar and a hypocrite. His constant grandstanding and TV appearances have shown he’s more about self-promotion than anything else. He should resign for the good of his party and his constituency but narcissists aren’t good at giving up the spotlight. What a joke.
CaliCat
@RossInDetroit:
This isn’t just about “a boner in underpants” as you so eloquently put it. It’s about hypocrisy and political fall-out. It’s also about decorum. I think these things are important in France as well.
RossInDetroit
@CaliCat:
They seem to have a higher tolerance for the shenanigans of politicians than we do. Yes, it is important but I think they’re a little more adult about putting the sex part in context.
CaliCat
@RossInDetroit:
On this, I agree.
MattMinus
Oh noes! he made a joke about jewish chicks not giving blowjobs, which means he’s ummmmmm racist against jews or something.
Ye gods! Every part of this scandal is boring and lame. The “pornographic” part could be shown on broadcast TV! The “racist” jokes are against his own group! He never even touched a freakin’ boob!
When you really take a step back and look at the thing, its a fucking popcorn fart.
I feel like a stronger person could have plowed through this with a “Yeah, thats my dong. So-fuckin’-what?” attitude.
Marc McKenzie
@ABL:
Agreed, ABL.
Somewhere, Clarence Thomas is laughing his ass off, because he knows that the media spotlight is sure as hell not going to be swinging in his direction anytime soon.
I need a drink.
Larkspur
Well, I’m not sure how exactly she did it, but Rachel Maddow talked me off the ledge. Bless her heart.
Bender
@Anne Laurie:
How much crack do you have to smoke to delude yourself into thinking there’s any such thing as a “Repub-weighted media” after this incident? You weren’t paying attention for the last week.
The Big Media Machine ignored the story for three days after it broke on Breitbart. Kurtz tweeted “it’s fake” (because Weiner had said so in a press release, and he read it on Kos, no doubt — JOURNALISM!).
Three right-blogs basically kept the story alive for four days, with Ace from Ace Of Spades hitting up Big Media Reporters on Twitter 24/7 with devastating, biting, satirical tweets outlining how they weren’t doing their jobs, pointing out how obvious it was that Weiner was lying. He knew he was getting through when a couple of credulous cover-jobs for Weiner (like WaPo’s “Lewd Photo Sent From Congressman’s Hacked Twitter”) were published on-line which suggested possible phony alibis for the Democrat which he hadn’t mentioned yet!
So Big Media ignored the story, then tried to cover it up, then made excuses for Weiner. Only when Weiner went in front of the cameras and made an idiot out of himself and called a CNN producer a “jackass” did the media start covering the story. Even then, Wolf Blitzer tried to get him off the hook with the most blatant softball interview of our time (setting the record for toad-iness by actually congratulating the Rep at the end!).
The point is, if your takeaway from this is “the media hates Weiner because they are all Republicans,” then you are a paranoid fantasist.
AxelFoley
Only Democrats know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Or is that vice versa? I forget.
But you know what I mean.
Either way, Weiner is a dipshit for this.
AxelFoley
@Fred:
I…see what you did there.
Iowa Housewife
I love you ABL!
AxelFoley
@RossInDetroit:
Yeah, the same French who are upset we have one of theirs in custody on rape charges.
Herman22
Agreed Weiner is an idiot and joins the ranks of idiot philandering politicians. There are just a few guidelines that these idiot politicians should follow: (1) Don’t sleep around, (2) If you can’t follow rule one, then get out of public life, (3) if you were too stupid to do rules one and two and get caught, do not try to cover it up–come clean and don’t, for the love of god, cry. Suck it up and accept the consequences.
Surly Duff
@ABL:
I get the gist of your argument, but the only problem with this line of thinking is that it assumes that without the distraction the media would actually focus on substantive issues. They would not. The media would simply find another outrageous expose to cover. Stubstance is overrated.
d. john
Sometimes I hate being right, especially when my snark was correct.
He *should* have said something like,
“yeah it’s mine – $50 a pop for a copy of the photo, or at least dinner and a movie first”
dumbass
d. john
@maus: You’re right. ‘Nuff said.
jon
I think you can forgive people,BUT what people often forget is that it doesnt mean the person is going to change,as a man I hope his wife who I have read is pregnant,takes this idiot to the cleaners and leaves him homeless.
If our politicians cant be faithful to their wives,do you really think they are going to be faithful to the american public???Dubocrat or republidumb doesnt matter,if they cheat they need to go,we need to restore honor and respect to washington,which is just a dream,a silly dream because we have already collapsed morally as a country,the economic “collapse”was secondary to a moral collapse.