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Stanley Cup Open Thread

by John Cole|  June 15, 20117:15 pm| 149 Comments

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I’m sick of Boston fans, so I’m firmly in the Vancouver camp for this one.

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  1. 1.

    gmf

    June 15, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    America hater.

  2. 2.

    Clark Stooksbury

    June 15, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    I can’t believe you let the Fonzie and Chachi(?) of Freedom get away this kind of thing all day.

  3. 3.

    ronobot

    June 15, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    This article expresses my thoughts on the matter (and I’m a Canadian who would otherwise be happy to have the Cup come back up north): http://bit.ly/j1FgNP (comment system hosed the full Toronto Star link)

  4. 4.

    Brian S

    June 15, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Bruins fan in particular, or anyone who roots for teams from the area?

  5. 5.

    cathyx

    June 15, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    John,
    Glenn Greenwald gives you a shout out in his latest topic.

  6. 6.

    Silver

    June 15, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    If you’re sick of Boston fans, you’ve clearly never met a Canucks fan…

  7. 7.

    David in NYC

    June 15, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    I’m sick of Vancouver players “unintentionally” biting Boston players, so I’m firmly in the Boston camp for this one.

  8. 8.

    J.W. Hamner

    June 15, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Look, I’m a transplant who hates all Boston sports teams, but you cannot possibly root for the Canucks. They’re like pure evil! They’ve even hired scientists to craft a pair creepy Swedish hockey robots… it’s unnatural!

  9. 9.

    Beauzeaux

    June 15, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Puh-leeze — the Canucks represent all that’s good in the world.

    David in NYC — If you stick your fingers in my mouth you can’t be surprised to find teeth there. (Though in hockey that might qualify as unusual.)

  10. 10.

    lamh34

    June 15, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    This is so not a hockey comment, but have ya’ll seen John Edwards mug shot? Dude looks like he’s taking a male model head shot for an ad campaign.

    http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/15/1000-words-68/

    A freiend of mine said he looks like a gameshow host

  11. 11.

    punkdavid

    June 15, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    @J.W. Hamner:

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    As a New Yorker (expat), I really dislike all Boston teams, except the Bruins. Probably because they’ve never been in the same division as the Rangers. Anyway, the Sedins, with their vacant Bachmann eyes, and that whiny fucking bitch Luongo should never have the joy of lifting the cup. Fuck them.

  12. 12.

    Brian S

    June 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Well, if for some reason you’re not interested in hockey, you could always check out my 15 minutes on Talk of the Nation with Neal Conan today. I was scared shitless the whole time.

  13. 13.

    Linnaeus

    June 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Eh, I could go either way here. I long ago adopted the Bruins as my favorite non-hometown hockey team, so I still feel some need to cheer for them. At the same time, the Canucks are the nearest NHL franchise to me and they’ve never won the the Cup.

  14. 14.

    Geeno

    June 15, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    After Luongo’s classless remarks after game 5, Bruins all the way!

  15. 15.

    trollhattan

    June 15, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    @David in NYC:

    Tyson plays hockey? Hoocoodanode?

  16. 16.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    The last hockey game I watched was the Olympic final. Maybe this would be worth a try?

  17. 17.

    BARRASSO

    June 15, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    As a hockey player I must root for Boston, I know too many canadians.

  18. 18.

    danimal

    June 15, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    The Canucks make it hard to root for the unBoston team, but Boston fans are just that annoying.

    O Canada, we bite down hard for thee….

  19. 19.

    Wrye

    June 15, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    I love you, John Cole. And all concerned might want to have a look at this while you wait for the puck drop.

  20. 20.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    That’s right, Cole. Go Canucks Go!!

  21. 21.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Big ass storm bearing down!

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    Sixers

    June 15, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Agreed. Fuck Boston.

  23. 23.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 15, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    although i think mark recchi is one of the genuine good guys, i can’t stand boston sports fans, from still whining about cam neely’s knee, hey what? is he special? allowed to skate through the neutral zone with the puck and his head down? ulfie kept hockey from becoming ice dancing. then there are pats fans, enough said, do i need to mention sawks fans, you aren’t the anti-yankees you have merged identities its now yanksawks and redkees.

    go canucks!

    oh and dammit luongo, you blow this one, i am sending ulfie after you(not really)

  24. 24.

    Steve

    June 15, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    At least Boston understands that they haven’t won the Cup in a while and need to be hungry. Vancouver has never won the Cup and yet they act like they invented the game. Also too, Roberto Luongo.

  25. 25.

    Wee Bey

    June 15, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Vancouver is pure evil.

    Go Broonz!

  26. 26.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Must-read by Jonah Keri in case you’re a casual hockey fan and unsure of who to root for tonight:

    Why The Boston Bruins Shouldn’t Win The Stanley Cup

  27. 27.

    Calouste

    June 15, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Vancouver is great city, so I’m for the Canucks.

  28. 28.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    @JenJen: This is good:

    Now? You sound like the douchebag who bitches that, after the three-bedroom in Tribeca, the place in the Hamptons, the kids’ boarding school, the annual trips to Paris and Aruba, the four cars, and two alimonies, you’ve barely got enough left for that third bottle of Dom at Per Se.

    Read More http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201106/boston-bruins-sports-drought#ixzz1POKPAFqV

  29. 29.

    Brian S

    June 15, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    @stuckinred: On the flip side, maybe if the Bruins win they’ll be left with nothing to complain about sports-wise? Nah, they’ll find something.

  30. 30.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    @stuckinred: It’s probably my favorite Stanley Cup piece this series. :-)

    Jonah’s one of the best baseball writers on earth. That piece had me wishing he’d write about hockey, all the time.

  31. 31.

    The Dangerman

    June 15, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    I’m thinking the last time the Northwest produced a champion (non Canadian football edition) was the Supersonics of a couple decades ago; Boston, on the other hand, gave us Tom Brady and Manny Ramirez recently. This one is an easy call.

  32. 32.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    @JenJen: Cool, I’ve never heard of him. But, then again, baseball and fashion are not that high on my list. Reading about baseball? The Boys of Summer was great but that’s about it. 80 days till Georgia-Boise State!

  33. 33.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    As a diehard Habs fan (which is why I hate Boston), I’ll even be so kind as to applaud Tim Thomas when he is deservedly awarded the Conn Smythe tonight. And I have nothing but props for the Bruins magnificent marketing department.

    But, GO CANUCKS!

  34. 34.

    Tom Levenson

    June 15, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    I’ve obviously got geographical obligations here, but seriously, has there ever been a more whinging sports franchise than the Canucks? Even their GM can’t stop moaning.

    And Luongo — kvetching about Thomas because Thomas didn’t “pump his tires” enough! Dude — worry about your own crease.

    Go Broooons.

  35. 35.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Fixed.

  36. 36.

    MizB

    June 15, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Hating on the Great Historic City of Boston?!?! Isn’t that the same as denouncing our christian-nation-founding-fathers & Paul Revere and his British-warning-revolutionary-ass?!?! Also, too.

    GO BRUINS!!!

  37. 37.

    JPL

    June 15, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    @stuckinred: What happened to your comment?
    We actually had rain…wahoo!!!!!!!

  38. 38.

    J.W. Hamner

    June 15, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    @stuckinred:

    It’s a good piece, and my argument to a Sharks’ fan before the series started was that I just couldn’t stomach Boston having won every major sport’s championship (sometimes several!) in the last 10 years… but everything about how Vancouver has played has pushed me the other way. Just can’t root for that.

  39. 39.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    @JPL: Yea, the game is delayed. It’s crankin here again. The princess is grinnin! There was some formatting problem but it must have been on my end.

  40. 40.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    @Tom Levenson: Well, Luongo was right, though. His style is completely different from that of Tim Thomas and he would’ve likely stopped that goal by Maxim Lapierre in Game 5. Sportswriters have spilled more ink about Luongo than any other goalkeeper in recent memory, but I think he deserves props for answering a direct question honestly instead of giving the usual, boilerplate, block-headed pro athlete comment when asked about the opposing team.

    It was a nontroversy to me and while Luongo would’ve been better served than to give the sports media something to chirp about while waiting for Game 6, at least he was honest. I didn’t view it as kvetching or whining at all.

    And for those keeping track, Vancouver’s Mason Raymond marked the second time this season that a Bruins defenseman cracked the vertebrae of an opposing player. The Bruins should really take the halo off.

  41. 41.

    MikeJ

    June 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    And Texas is beating the FY 4-3 in the top of the 3rd.

  42. 42.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    How much pre-game bullshit will I have to sit through?

  43. 43.

    JPL

    June 15, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    The Bruins haven’t won since the 71/72 season and Vancouver hasn’t won since the 70/71 season. I call it a toss-up on who should win the sympathy vote.

  44. 44.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Canucks and their fans are whiney lame ass crybabies just like the 2003-2004 Colts and their fans were, all chippy and cheap shotty after the whistle and then want to call the waaaahhhhmbulance when they get hit. Fuck them. The Canadiens are the same way – they’re just like Italian soccer teams, flopping all over the place with their fake contorted faces looking for the refs to make the calls. Fuck that. The Canucks are just all so punchable. Go Bruins!

  45. 45.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    @JPL:

    The Bruins haven’t won since the 71/72 season and Vancouver hasn’t won since the 70/71 season. I call it a toss-up on who should win the sympathy vote.

    It’s their third trip to the finals, but the Vancouver Canucks have never hoisted the Stanley Cup.

    @Cat Ldy: Ouch!! Meeeee-ow, even! ;-)

  46. 46.

    Joel

    June 15, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    I’m sick jealous of Boston fans, so I’m firmly in the Vancouver camp for this one.

  47. 47.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    @JenJen:

    I’ve been reading the Vancouver Sun message boards and the fans are pathetic, really. Conspiracy theories about refs colluding with the league against them and no clue as to why the rest of the league hates them and their whiny bitch asses too.

  48. 48.

    MoeLarryAndJesus

    June 15, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    John’s just cranky because the Patriots and Tom Brady almost always beat the Steelers and the despicable Ben Rapistberger.

    It’s just a good thing Pittsburgh doesn’t have an NBA team, I guess, or there’d be year-round whining.

  49. 49.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Love the way Vancouver fans sing “O Canada.” Mark Donnely FTW.

    @Cat Lady: Not really fair to characterize Vancouver Sun commenters as “Canucks Fans” is it? I mean, look at the comments section in your local newspaper and prepare to be horrified by those purporting to represent your side.

    I’m just sayin’ is all. And I’m a Canadiens fan, not a Canucks fan. Except for, you know, this series and especially tonight!

  50. 50.

    stuckinred

    June 15, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Killin the natural anthem!

  51. 51.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Yes, the Aaron Rome hit was dirty, and he got what he deserved, but the Johnny Boychuk hit on Mason Raymond was just as bad. It’s not against the rules, but it was a dirty, dirty play. Once Raymond was bent over, finishing the check was very dangerous. In terms of dirty play, these teams are about even.

    So, yes, it’s the Bruins fans that are causing me to root for Vancouver. I even agree the Canucks fans are at least as annoying as Boston fans, but you know what? There aren’t nearly as many of them and, more importantly, I don’t have to listen to them incessantly. ESPN doesn’t fill its schedule with Lions/Blue Bombers games. I can’t escape Red Sox/Yankees confrontations. Just fuck Boston and its sports teams. Red Sox fans were cute until they finally won a World Series, and they’ve become omnipresently insufferable since.

    On the other hand, the Cutest Kitten in the World has decided to sleep this one out, at least the first period.

  52. 52.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    As a proud Tampa native, I hate all Boston teams…and I am pulling for Vancouver. However, I am at the Rays-Red Sox game right now and Mitt fricking Romney is sitting in my section. Wow. Seriously.

  53. 53.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): @Neal: I always knew I liked both of you. So much.

    Mitt Romney? Seriously, Neal? Ask him if he’s keeping tabs on the Bruins game! Fucker.

  54. 54.

    Judas Escargot

    June 15, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Boston native, but also a feelthy half-Canadien.

    Couldn’t care less who wins :P

  55. 55.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    June 15, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): The local sports talker in Seattle is a hack from Boston(his partner an ex-Husky QB who spouts hacknyed cliches)who has to put in some reference to Boston teams anytime he opens his piehole. I want the Canucks to win even though I am a Sharks fan. Damn the other sportstalker(we have 2 in Seattle) is insufferable homer, but at least he is home.

  56. 56.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Seriously. You could teach geometry off of that jaw.

  57. 57.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Merde! Calisse! Tabarnak! Fuck!! Uh-oh. 1-0 Boston.

  58. 58.

    JPL

    June 15, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    @Neal: Don’t sit to close to him. Did you see the video at TPM where he tried to make a funny while posing for a picture.

  59. 59.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    One. One more, and the nutjob gets pulled.

  60. 60.

    Joel

    June 15, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    If I were a neutral fan, I’d root for the Canucks on account of the loyalty of their fanbase. Seeing all those people massed around Rogers Arena is inspiring.

    But I’m not a neutral fan. Go Bruins. Watching people drink the haterade is all the more satisfying.

  61. 61.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Also, this hasn’t been a great series. There is only one player on either roster who bothered to show up for a road game: Tim Thomas. I’ve liked him since a very fun University of Vermont team made it to the Frozen Four in 1996. The line of Martin St. Louis/Eric Perrin/J.C. Ruid was the only one could score (and Ruid was mostly a space filler for the other two) and Thomas was as spectacular then as he is now. They lost in the semifinal against Colorado College on a controversial goal (it clearly came after a hand pass) in what was, literally, the sloppiest hockey game I’ve ever seen thanks to a member of the ice crew puncturing the coolant line when he tried to install the net before the game. They had to shut the plant down until they could make a repair between semis, and the ice at that end melted throughout the game. Thomas recently claimed in an interview that the ref must not have seen the obvious hand pass, but the fact is, had no one scored in the second OT (which had about 5 minutes left when it went in), they were going to have to call off the game and finish it the next day. A player could have picked up the puck and thrown it into the net and they probably would have let it count.

  62. 62.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    The St Pete Times photographer is all over Mitt. Every half inning. It’s kinda sad.

  63. 63.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    One. One more, and the nutjob gets pulled.

    Olympic Gold Medalist Roberto Luongo is a nutjob? News to me!

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): It’s soooooo hard to hate the Bruins and Tim Thomas at the same time. He’s a lock for the Conn Smythe if he hoists the Cup or not tonight. And, sadly, for the last few seasons the Final has failed to live up to the promise of the awesome playoffs.

  64. 64.

    JPL

    June 15, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    @Neal: I’m sure Mitt hates having his picture taken.

  65. 65.

    Joel

    June 15, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Holy crap, this is going to be the dirtiest final ever.

  66. 66.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 15, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    turrible.

    vancouver i just want you to know, we’re all counting on you.

  67. 67.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Damn, JMN. You hit a soft spot with Marty and Eric Perrin. Love ’em. Marty is my favorite athlete of all time. As a Tampa fan, him and Derrick Brooks (and Lee Roy Selmon, though I was a little young) are royalty for me. And I agree, this series has been shitty hockey. The Bolts and Bruins was good (despite the outcome). This series has been ugly and Thomas has been the only constant. He sucked in the Eastern Conference Finals for 4 out of 7 games but he’s been good this series.

  68. 68.

    Steve

    June 15, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Here is a catchy song about Luongo for the occasion. Don’t choke dude!

  69. 69.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    @JenJen:

    He melts down when he gives up a bad goal. Fragile ego, who’s on a short leash. AV won’t let him get down more than 2 goals.

    ETA: I hope this game has no penalties like the Lightning game 7. Let ’em play.

  70. 70.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    @JPL: No sympathy for Willard. It just saddens me the SPTimes cares so much.

  71. 71.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    @Neal: Boston/Tampa was nothing compared to the war San Jose and Detroit put on in Round 2. Yeah, I’m a Wings fan, so I’m a little biased, but that was a series. Take away an empty netter, and every game was decided by one goal. There were big comebacks, each team lost a game despite being the better team, and a lot of Pavel Datsyuk.

    I do have to admit, though, as much as I generally don’t like rooting for southern teams, I’m firmly on the Lightning bandwagon. Hiring St. Stephen as your GM helped.

  72. 72.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Hey, Milbury, shut the fuck up. You’re a large part of the reason that the Bruins haven’t won a Cup since 1972.

  73. 73.

    Chris

    June 15, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    You’re siding with the Vancouver fans over the Bruins fans? No wonder you’re a Steelers fan.

  74. 74.

    Hawes

    June 15, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Why does John hate America?

  75. 75.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    JMN, I thank the Lord for Stevie Y, Guy B, and Jeff Vinik rescuing my hockey team. Good times are ahead.

  76. 76.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Don Cherry’s last wardrobe choice of the 2010/2011 NHL Season:

    http://twitpic.com/5c4cpk

    Oh, my.

  77. 77.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    @JenJen: I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that jacket before. Cherry was wearing it at the time, of course.

  78. 78.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    @Neal: Guy Boucher may be the best I’ve ever seen at badmouthing his own team and insisting that they’ll be lucky to win a single game in whichever series they’re starting. His timing and delivery of it is perfect.

  79. 79.

    theBehjaysus

    June 15, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    It’s kinda nice not having a horse in this race.
    the Nucks make it really hard to root for em, Kesler is the only player on that team I can stand.

    But Beantown? After the Sox won a second WS all the Elmer Fudd talking fuckers can get bent!

    So many great bands outta Boston; Standells, DMZ/Lyres, Mission of Burma, Real Kids….

    Oh well, so far good game.

  80. 80.

    sneezy

    June 15, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    @lamh34:

    A friend of mine said [John Edwards] looks like a gameshow host.

    He’s always been smarm personified.

  81. 81.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Wings fan here too (but I split the love between my Western team and my Canadiens). That Round 2 series was f’n epic, best hockey of the playoffs. As has been the case the last few seasons, the Final hasn’t lived up to the promise of the playoffs. 38 minutes of hockey left to make that up tonight!

    And speaking of the Bolts, they were named #2 (!!) on ESPN The Magazine’s Best Franchises in Sports list today. (My hapless Bengals came in last. We’re #122! We’re #122! Woot!)

  82. 82.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    @Neal: This hangs in the entryway in my house.

  83. 83.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    @JenJen: You may not be able to split your love much longer. Rumor is that the Wings are going to be moved to the Eastern Conference after next season, with Winnipeg going to the West. The wild card is Phoenix; if they fold up their tents and move, they might go to an eastern destination. Hamilton? I think the Toronto/Southern Ontario market could easily support at least two more teams.

    Edit: And wouldn’t it be amusing as hell if an expansion team in Toronto won a Cup before the Leafs did? I’d never stop laughing.

  84. 84.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Dammit. 2-0.

  85. 85.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    TABARNAK, Bruins score. Not cool.

  86. 86.

    J.W. Hamner

    June 15, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Whatever… even with Tim Thomas standing on his head a 2-0 lead is nothing here. I’d still bet on overtime.

  87. 87.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): Honestly? I’d love to see the Wings in the Eastern Conference, where they belong. But? The NHL would view that as too many Original 6 teams in the East, so the hapless Columbus Blue Jackets will probably get the nod for the move. NHL Wheel of Justice. It is what it is.

    The way Game 7 is going tonight, I fear my personal highlight will be Vancouver fans booing Gary Bettman when he presents the trophies. It’s not gonna be enough for me. COME THE HELL ON CANUCKS.

    ETA: Aaaaaand, a shortie from Boston. Fuck.

  88. 88.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Boy, the ‘Nucks really aren’t playing well at all.

  89. 89.

    Steve

    June 15, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    The Nooks better get one back before the end of the period or this is not going to be very interesting.

  90. 90.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Sad trombone. :-(

  91. 91.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    We’re getting the breaks, and want it more. Canucks aren’t fighting for it.

    ETA: That’s what happens when you lead end to end through a season. Not tested enough.

  92. 92.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    ETA: That’s what happens when you lead end to end through a season. Not tested enough.

    Sure, I’m bitter about the way this Final is going, but that doesn’t make any sense.

  93. 93.

    redshirt

    June 15, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Go Bruins! Play some tight defense, spare Thomas the glory of more saves, and bring home the cup – it’s the one major sports trophy I haven’t seen close up recently! (Not true – I saw the cup with Ray Borque bringing it home as an Avalanche victory back in Aught One. Was a strange celebration in the desolation of City Hall. A lovely day, though).

    I hope we get some proper Sully and Murph rioting tonight, but alas! Many of the college kids have left and there’s definitely fewer fodder for the Riot Police sand bag guns.

    Bring it home, Bruins!

    Also too: Boston is arguably the capital of Liberal America, and one of the few remaining beacons of Progressivism left in America. Hate on the Bawston fans, but don’t be hatin’ on the city. Boston rules.

  94. 94.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    @JenJen: Sports cliches almost never make sense:

    The two-goal lead is the hardest to hold in hockey? What the fuck does that even mean. Unlike the stuff Cat Lady quoted, I can’t even say that that one is wrong, because I have no idea how to tell.

    The all-important first goal of the game? Not so all-important. On the data I checked, there is a slightly higher correlation between scoring the *second* goal and winning the game, but the team that scores any particular goal will always win that game a large percentage of the time, simply because you win by scoring more goals than the other guy, so the probability that the winning team scored whichever goal you look at is going to be higher.

    And don’t even get me started on baseball.

  95. 95.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 15, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    fuck you canada! way to let me, personally, down.

  96. 96.

    J.W. Hamner

    June 15, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @JenJen:

    Lots of teams have been dominant in the regular season and not played to expectations in the playoffs… the Caps and Sharks come to mind instantly… though the Canucks were unusually dominant this year.

    Perhaps that dominance makes them weaker in the playoffs.

    I tend to think the simplest answer is that the NHL playoffs are not well correlated with the regular season… as weird as that is to contemplate for fans of more predictable sports.

  97. 97.

    Geeno

    June 15, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    I can’t believe Vancouver didn’t call their time out in that power play. Normally announcers are FOS, but they were on the money there. Vancouver NEEDED that goal, and instead, they cough one up.

  98. 98.

    Katie5

    June 15, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Oh, the horror.

  99. 99.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    @JenJen:

    Canucks are soft. They’ve been frontrunners all through the regular season and after Chicago thought they’d have a clear path. The Sharks weren’t as good as them, and should have been put away in less than 7. Now, the 3rd period should be interesting. Anything can happen, and if the Canucks rally it’ll be overtime at which point you won’t hear from me cuz I’ll be in full myocardial infarction.

  100. 100.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    The only nice thing I can muster this evening: At least that’s two Original Six Stanley Cup wins back-to-back.

    Fuck. Tabarnak. Fuck!!

    Only suspense left: Does Captain Chara hand the Cup to Timmy, or Nathan Horton first? My money’s on Timmeh. What a year for him.

    @Cat Lady: After Game 6, I felt that if the Bruins got even two goals up on Luongo, it would be all she wrote. Assuming you have bottles in the ice, I think you should start popping them, seriously. The air in Roberts Arena has been sucked out.

  101. 101.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Yeah, that’s Canuck hockey right there. Losers.

  102. 102.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Canucks – waiting for the refs to save their bacon. Losers.

  103. 103.

    Cacti

    June 15, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I don’t really care about either team or hockey in general, but I was casually pulling for Vancouver.

    I figured a championship would mean more to them than Boston’s 4th favorite franchise winning the city its umpteenth title.

    Oh well.

  104. 104.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    Canucks – waiting for the refs to save their bacon. Losers.

    Boston fans will be Boston fans, won’t they?

    I’m not happy with this result, but I will at least cheer when Tim Thomas becomes only the second American (after Brian Leech in 1994) to win the Conn Smythe, and I’ll cheer again when Zdeno Chara decides that Timmy should be the first Bruin after the Captain to hoist the Cup. And I’ll always cheer an Original Six team winning the most coveted trophy in sports (that’s two in a row for the O6!).

    Congratulations, Boston. Yeah, it hurts. But congrats! And Timmy? You’re a hockey god and a legend. Respect.

  105. 105.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Game over, man. Game over.

  106. 106.

    Katie5

    June 15, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    @JenJen: Another positive: scan the crowd. Lots more diversity in the Canucks crowd than the whiteness of Bruins (polar bears!). We have Hockey Night in Canada in Punjabi, for god’s sake.

    (oh crap. 4-0?)

  107. 107.

    redshirt

    June 15, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Yep. Game. Bring on the rioting!

  108. 108.

    Cacti

    June 15, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    @JenJen:

    the most coveted trophy in sports

    The Bruins won the FIFA World Cup?

  109. 109.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    @JenJen:

    Tim Thomas became a pro hockey player at the age of 31! That’s like if I decided to become a professional ballerina next year. He’s worthy.

    On the other hand, the iconic image will be Marchand punching one of the Sedin sisters in the face over and over and instead of fighting back, he looked for the ref to stop it. How can you respect that? That’s the definition of loser.

  110. 110.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    June 15, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    The Bruins played good defense around their goal. Vancouver was just wild with their shots, Luongo gets the goat horns, what a tool.

  111. 111.

    Crza

    June 15, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Boston!!!

  112. 112.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    Tim Thomas became a pro hockey player at the age of 31!

    Uhm, no. That’s when he got his first chance in the NHL. He played in the ECHL, the IHL, the AHL, the Swedish Elite League and for two different teams in Finland between between graduating from the University of Vermont in 1997 and the Bruins picking him up in 2003.

  113. 113.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Marchand. Rookie.

  114. 114.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    I was rooting for the Canucks, but let me reiterate that Vancouver fans are bad. Booing the Conn Smythe presentation is classless.

  115. 115.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    I have nothing against the Bruins as a team, just the fans. So it is fun watching them celebrate.

  116. 116.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    Tim Thomas became a pro hockey player at the age of 31! That’s like if I decided to become a professional ballerina next year. He’s worthy.

    He’s worthy for sure. But even he would groan that you just said he only became a professional hockey player at age 31.

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): C’mon now. They were booing Gary Bettman, not the Conn Smythe. Probably the finest of all NHL Traditions!!

    All credit to the Bruins. They fought their asses off for this.

    @Cacti: HA HA HA. Yeah, much as I love World Cup action, it ain’t the Stanley, and it sure doesn’t have every player who ever won it’s name engraved upon it for all eternity.

  117. 117.

    Cat Lady

    June 15, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    @JenJen:

    Sue me for exaggerating. Timmeh’s awesome.

    Bruins earned this. Canucks thought they deserved it.

  118. 118.

    J.W. Hamner

    June 15, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    One advantage to Boston winning lots of championships is that I think people really are over the whole rioting thing. Or at least I hope so.

  119. 119.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Nice to see Steve Kampfer get the Cup, even if he didn’t play. He was a student in one of my father’s political methods classes (i.e. applied statistics), and then did an independent study with him. Hard working kid.

  120. 120.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: Boston fans couldn’t even watch the event at TD Garden tonight. Fan viewing canceled citing “fan safety.” But, I’m sure that didn’t stop Bruins fans from celebrating elsewhere. :-)

  121. 121.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 15, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    @J.W. Hamner: Apparently they are not over it in Vancouver. Burning vehicles outside the arena.

  122. 122.

    redshirt

    June 15, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Wow. Who’d a thunk? Rioting in Vancouver, peaceful celebrations with gentle police presence in Boston. UPSIDE DOWN!!?

  123. 123.

    J.W. Hamner

    June 15, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):

    Hopefully someone will remind them that they don’t want to look like Habs fans and they’ll calm it down.

  124. 124.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    @Cat Lady: Timmeh IS awesome. My only joys this evening were 1: Vancouver fans keeping up the tradition of heartily booing Gary Bettman 2: Timmeh becoming only the second American to win the Conn Smythe, and… Yeah, that’s it. All I got. Can’t wait until October.

  125. 125.

    GregB

    June 15, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Listen Cole. Paul Revere didn’t ride around on his horse ringing bells and firing warning shots to alert the British so that some blogger from West Virginia could root against America, apple pie and the Bruins.

  126. 126.

    Neal

    June 15, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Congrats to Timmeh, he and Marty St Louis are close friends. I’ll take solace in the fact that my Bolts lit him up in the EC finals for 5 four times…of course, they got a big 0 when it mattered in game 7.

  127. 127.

    Go Canes!

    June 15, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    In other words, who the f*** cares who won tonight.

  128. 128.

    Wrye

    June 15, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Sorry, everybody not from Boston. Too many of our best guys and our top D weren’t in the lineup tonight, not enough puck luck, just not enough left in the tank.

    My impression is that the crowd was booing Bettman and gave Thomas an ovation. We know who won this. Without Thomas, this was over in 5. As for the rowdiness, (it has nothing on the 94 riot…yet) elements of that immense crowd outside were drunk and spoiling for trouble regardless of the result.

  129. 129.

    Jay B.

    June 15, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    FUCK YOU LOSERS.

    PS: Vancouver is one of the most beautiful cities in the world (and actually, Boston’s not five or ten behind, in nice weather). But hahahahahahahahahaha. Suck it.

  130. 130.

    Cat Lady

    June 16, 2011 at 12:01 am

    @Wrye:

    Whatever, your team didn’t fight, unless it was after the whistle. Some of it was luck, but fortune favors the bold. Finesse skill teams never win championships against determined tougher teams. If you want your team to win, clone Ryan Kesler and break up the Sedins.

  131. 131.

    hilts

    June 16, 2011 at 12:06 am

    To all the Boston haters – Go Fuck Yourselves

  132. 132.

    Cat Lady

    June 16, 2011 at 12:12 am

    @hilts:

    :-D

  133. 133.

    Joel

    June 16, 2011 at 12:32 am

    The only thing that would make this better is if Shaq asking Kobe to “tell me how my ass tastes”

  134. 134.

    MoeLarryAndJesus

    June 16, 2011 at 1:08 am

    @theBehjaysus:

    Despite “Dirty Water,” the Standells weren’t a Boston band. Not even close. They were an LA band, of all things.

    All praise and honor to the Bruins.

    Happy riots, Vancouver.

  135. 135.

    MoeLarryAndJesus

    June 16, 2011 at 1:17 am

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):

    The Bruins fans behaved themselves after the game tonight. The Canucks fans disgraced themselves.

    I’d say you’re backing the wrong fans, chuckles.

  136. 136.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 16, 2011 at 1:32 am

    i wonder if thug-ass tom brady will have his hired goons shoot at people like he did at his own wedding. even the fictional nino brown only shot back in retaliation. but then again, seeing as he is a yankee fan, he is probably also a laker and canadien fan.

  137. 137.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    June 16, 2011 at 1:39 am

    this just in_ ray borque is having a parade in his back yard to celebrate boston winning a cup he had nothing to do with.

    i miss that era of boston sports, classless losers are more fun than classless winners.

  138. 138.

    Son of Prog

    June 16, 2011 at 2:03 am

    Haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love, but you can’t deny the Bruins outplayed the Canucks over the series now- glad I wasn’t on this thread when I was +A Lot of Beers, good night!

  139. 139.

    Yutsano

    June 16, 2011 at 2:34 am

    Spanakopita is fantastic, Robert Luongo is dead to me, and I have an awesome slack day at work tomorrow. My life ain’t half bad right now.

  140. 140.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 16, 2011 at 2:45 am

    @Yutsano: Honestly, Luongo wasn’t any worse than the rest of them. They were horrible for three games in Boston, and almost as bad tonight. The Sedins were non-factors in the series, combining for 5 points, three of which came after the game was out of reach. Kesler disappeared. Bieksa did the same. Edler was a net negative, just from the bad penalties. Losing four games was a complete team effort.

    Contra Wrye, I’m not sure Thomas needed to be all that stellar. He completely carried the Bruins for three games, but they lost all of them anyway. The four Bruins wins were total beatdowns, and an average goalie would have done the job.

  141. 141.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    June 16, 2011 at 2:46 am

    @Cat Lady:

    Finesse skill teams never win championships against determined tougher teams.

    Yeah. That must be why my Red Wings have gone so long without winning the Cup.

  142. 142.

    Yutsano

    June 16, 2011 at 2:55 am

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN): I won’t pretend there’s any rhyme or reason to this. I just need a convenient whipping boy. :)

    PS my ex is probably pissed off to no end. He may have turned over one of those cars by himself. He can bench 250 kilos. You do the math.

  143. 143.

    Chinn Romney

    June 16, 2011 at 7:23 am

    I know I’m getting spoiled. Or maybe just old. Either way, watching the Bruins skate around with the Cup wasn’t nearly as satisfying as I expected it to be. Tremendous heart shown by that bunch, no doubt. Just felt anticlimatic.

    I thought the Vancouver crowd, those inside the stadium, were outstanding. Loved the way the team and crowd saluted each other at the end, even though it had to be tough to swallow the result. They gave Lucic and Thomas nice hands. And the boos, I thought it was pretty obvious they were intended for Bettman. That’s something everyone could get behind.

    And the Sedin’s, for all the abuse they took, were standup at the end, and in the post game pressers.

    That’s the stuff I like to dwell on. In general I hate sports fans. Doesn’t matter which uniform they’re rooting on, they’re all obnoxious and generally bring shame on their home towns.

  144. 144.

    Derf

    June 16, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Seeing as how Cole was rooting for Vancouver I decided to root for the Bruins.

  145. 145.

    Seele

    June 16, 2011 at 11:57 am

    So fans that do not riot, you are sick of…
    … and fans that riot you side with?

    OWNED!

  146. 146.

    Don

    June 16, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    You mean kinda like Boston did when they won the World Series?

  147. 147.

    Chinn Romney

    June 16, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Cole’s just incredibly jealous of Boston, no biggie. Can’t be easy living in Appalachia. But hey, at least he’s got Hines Ward, winner to the mirrored ball.

    I feel bad for the real Vancouver fans. The thugs currently burning their City down are NOT hockey fans. It’s a shame they’re described that way in most media accounts.

    I’m surprised that Vancouver Law Enforcement didn’t contain it better, and I’m slightly and pleasantly surprised that Boston was very well behaved. I guess we’re getting used to all these championships. Grand Slam, Bay-bee, we have the Grand Slam!

  148. 148.

    lovable liberal

    June 16, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Vita brevis, arse Luongo.

    Although in truth I didn’t find his comment at all worth the ginned up controversy. Anything to sell ads.

    Canadians rioting? The apocalypse is nigh.

  149. 149.

    Wrye

    June 16, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    The current thinking is that the law enforcement were badly misled by their experience with the Olympics, which went off smoothly, and thought the same hands-off approach would work here. (Never mind that the Olympics had easily ten times the security budget, and police on the ground from all over the country, just for starters…) Not to mention that when assholes show up with molotov cocktails and crowbars and head straight for the electronics stores, they obviously didn’t care all that much about the outcome of the game…

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