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Open Thread

by John Cole|  June 17, 20119:05 pm| 87 Comments

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Our first report from the Balloon Juice meet-up is in:

I’m with Kay in Minneapolis, and she doesn’t have her own computer and can’t remember her login to use mine. If you want an open thread for it, you’ll need to do it yourself.

Correspondent fail.

I bet Jon Stewart doesn’t have to go through this shit with John Oliver and Aasif Mandvi.

*** Update ***

This happens every time we let Tunch loose near the liquor cabinet:

The guy just does not know moderation.

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  1. 1.

    kindness

    June 17, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    She’s holding out for a better hotel room.

    Pass the hat people.

  2. 2.

    guachi

    June 17, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    I think if a pic of John appears she might suddenly ‘remember’ her password.

    Also, I always smile at Aasif Mandvi’s name. Aasif meaning ‘sorry’ in Arabic.

  3. 3.

    ruemara

    June 17, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    yeah, but there are more poop jokes.

  4. 4.

    General Stuck

    June 17, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Kay has a photogenic memory and nothing will be lost, or gained from intell gathered at this gathering of manic progressive wizards. I mean, how many ways can you say “Obama sucks” and need to type it into a computer.

    The video with Pfeiffer told me all I need to know. We could have bought a deluxe edit function with the money.

  5. 5.

    The Bobs

    June 17, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    “I bet Jon Stewart doesn’t have to go through this shit with John Oliver and Aasif Mandvi.”

    Yeah, because they are actually standing right next to him.

  6. 6.

    jl

    June 17, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    @4 General Stuck – June 17, 2011

    I interpret your comment as an offer to jump in your jalopy and run a quick trip over MN to fix it all up.

    But it’s possible I misunderstood.

  7. 7.

    Triassic Sands

    June 17, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    I bet Jon Stewart doesn’t have to go through this shit with John Oliver and Aasif Mandvi.

    Yeah, and Oliver and Mandvi are being paid in Tunch tee shirts and “Feed” coffee mugs. No, wait, that’s Kay.

  8. 8.

    lamh34

    June 17, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    I know this supposed to be a serious thread, but I just wanted to say that I’d love to “do something” with Aasif Mandvi. Woo, I think dude is so hot, but I imagine that he’s probably shorter than I like ’em…lol

  9. 9.

    J. Michael Neal

    June 17, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    They have a huge scotch supply here, so I recommend showing up.

  10. 10.

    lamh34

    June 17, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    ok, I’m watching a concert movie of Bette Midler’s Cesear’s Palace show, and I gotta say, I’m a little upset that I haven’t seen the Divine Miss M!

    I did though see Elton John at Ceaser’s and I must say that ole queen was fantabulous.

    Interesting thing, I kid you not though, my friend and I and I think one other woman, were THE ONLY Black people there…who were straight…lol.

    The other interesting thing is how many actual Elton John songs I actually knew and I’m only 34 so I’m not quite a long time Elton fan…although I’d bet cha you couldn’t find a Black person who doesn’t like “Benny and The Jets”

  11. 11.

    J. Michael Neal

    June 17, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Kay has a photogenic memory

    It’s not *that* attractive. Her face is better.

  12. 12.

    Poopyman

    June 17, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    I just called Kay the Margaret Dumont of BJ. I suspect it’s even more appropriate than I know.

  13. 13.

    Jade Jordan

    June 17, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Da** ** I paid my Firebagger Dues to this site and at the very least I should get a big REPLY button and regular updates from Netroot Disfunctional Democrats Central.

    John, I am going to need a refund. Membership does not have it’s privileges. This site has gone to the dogs. (Maybe it always belonged to the dogs).

  14. 14.

    General Stuck

    June 17, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    jl

    naw, just being my usual cynical smart ass self, that is also disappointed that the vaunted netroots I had so much expectation for good in dem politics, turned into a non stop bitch slap with our dem president. Some folks call it loyal dissent, but that description is lost on me.

    It could be fixed with a huge dose of anti anal retentive perspective, but I have no license nor desire to administer that medicine.

  15. 15.

    lamh34

    June 17, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    @lamh34

    Reason #1 why Black people love Benny and the Jets, first the melody is the shit, plus Elton John was one of the first non-black muscians to perform on Soul Train.

    Elton John on Soul Train

    Reason #2…this number one hit for Mary J Blige…I love this song: Mary J Blige – Deep Inside

  16. 16.

    J. Michael Neal

    June 17, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Here’s a photo from the gathering. We’re amateurs, so everybody didn’t get into the frame.

  17. 17.

    eemom

    June 17, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    look Cole, as Kay mentioned earlier, you’re going have to show the world something more than a pair of sprawled out legs pointed at a teevee and an elbow on a car door before you can be taken, like, seriously.

    Three dimensions, Cole. Evidence of corporeal reality. That’s all that’s standing between you and Jon Stewart.

  18. 18.

    beltane

    June 17, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    J. Michael Neal takes pictures just like my mother. Body parts and table clutter for as far as the eye can see.

  19. 19.

    Poopyman

    June 17, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    I must say that I took that picture, and I think it captures the essence of the meetup.

  20. 20.

    Cain

    June 17, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    @lam34

    Interesting thing, I kid you not though, my friend and I and I think one other woman, were THE ONLY Black people there…who were straight…lol.

    I know how that feels. I went to a ZZ Top concert and I was the only indian there amongst about athousand people. (it was at the county fair) That was an odd feeling.. hell they wasn’t even Latinos there. I had a big WTF.

    Of course, I regularly go into places most indians don’t show up. The best though was in Ireland where I walked into any pub and I had all eyes on me. Awesome. I never had so much female attention in my life. I know what it feels like to be a piece of meat. :P

    Then there was my buddy who is black and he goes to Armenia and is one of like 4 black people there. He never had so many proposals for marriage.. it was a risk just walking down the street because people would invite him over for vodka.

  21. 21.

    Poopyman

    June 17, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    What the hell kind of party is this where half the people are typing msgs to each other across the table that wind up on Balloon Juice?

  22. 22.

    J. Michael Neal

    June 17, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    beltane = I didn’t say that I *took* the photo. I’m just the messenger. For an example of *my* work, check here.

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    June 17, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    I bet Jon Stewart doesn’t have to go through this shit with John Oliver and Aasif Mandvi.

    Given what happened in this bit, I suspect it’s more like Oliver saying, “Jesus, Jon, how you could you forget your password again?”

  24. 24.

    stuckinred

    June 17, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    I went to the JVC Jazz Festival in the ATL years ago. Miles, the Yellow Jackets, Dave Brubeck and many black folks in the crowd were going nuts over Michael Franks!

  25. 25.

    Tom Q

    June 17, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Did anybody catch Lt. Choi on with O’Donnell tonight? What an embarrassment. He actually analogized voting for Obama over any 2012 Republican to people saying however bad Iraq was, it was better than having Saddam Hussein still in power. At another point, he described himself as feeling like an abused child. I can second him on the last word, anyway.

    What’s amazing is the zero credit he gives for the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, which, if I’m not mistaken, was kind of paramount to him until it happened. Now he’s moved on to marriage equality, and anyone not 100% in his corner on it — i.e., Obama — is essentially dead to him.

    Yeah, Dan: Barack’ll be encouraged put out full effort for you. Nothing motivates a president to do things for supporters more than the assurance they’ll be showing gratitude.

  26. 26.

    stuckinred

    June 17, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Tom Q

    Did you see him on the light pole the night they got Bin Laden? Hey may be gay but he’s West Point Infantry till death.

  27. 27.

    WaterGirl

    June 17, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    @ John Cole

    Couldn’t you send Kay an email with her password? If you can’t see what it is, you could surely change it to something else and then let her know what she has changed it to. Just a thought…

  28. 28.

    gbear

    June 17, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Well if anyone saw a fat grey bearded bear on the front sidewalk at 6:30 walking around trying to find the group and gradually looking more and more panicked due to noisy crowd phobias, that was me. Sorry I had to split.

  29. 29.

    TooManyJens

    June 17, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    That sucks, gbear. :(

  30. 30.

    OzoneR

    June 17, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    What’s amazing is the zero credit he gives for the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, which, if I’m not mistaken, was kind of paramount to him until it happened. Now he’s moved on to marriage equality, and anyone not 100% in his corner on it—i.e., Obama—is essentially dead to him.

    Can’t imagine why Democrats wouldn’t want to spend political capital on the left.

  31. 31.

    Anne Laurie

    June 17, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    I bet Jon Stewart doesn’t have to go through this shit with John Oliver and Aasif Mandvi.

    I bet Jon Stewart is prettier, though.

  32. 32.

    Mnemosyne

    June 17, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Something that Steve Benen found for us O-bots — watch to the very end of this week in review video to see yet another of the president’s unsung skills: soothing screaming babies.

    And, as Steve said, that look that he exchanges with the First Lady is priceless.

  33. 33.

    jo6pac

    June 17, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Don’t give a F*&^ get back to work for those that can’t be there.

  34. 34.

    Poopyman

    June 17, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Gbear! We missed you!

  35. 35.

    TooManyJens

    June 17, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    And, as Steve said, that look that he exchanges with the First Lady is priceless.

    “Bet you thought I couldn’t do that.”

  36. 36.

    Violet

    June 17, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @: Mnemosyne: That is awesome. That look he exchanges with Michelle. LOL. Excellent.

  37. 37.

    Poopyman

    June 17, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    The bill is paid and my battery is low.

    Poopyman, out.

  38. 38.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    June 17, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    @Tom Q

    At another point, he described himself as feeling like an abused child.

    He said he felt like an abused child and a battered spouse because Obama didn’t support gay marriage.

    Lovely. Tell that to women who had the shit beat out of them by drunk husbands (think Nicole Simpson), and kids who were harmed by sadistic parents and pervert priests.

    But what I want to know is when did obama’s position on gay marriage become the new public option — the new single issue of the poutosphere?

  39. 39.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    June 17, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Matthews and two lefty bloggers have a great take on the tantrum going on in the minnesota sandbox

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#43446155

  40. 40.

    Violet

    June 17, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Dan Choi reminds me of Cindy Sheehan. Started out with the moral high ground and then descended into professional victim status almost to the point of parody. It’s sad.

  41. 41.

    schrodinger's cat

    June 17, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Tunch FTW! That’s a fine vintage of Purrlot that you have there.
    Signing off for the night.

  42. 42.

    Violet

    June 17, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Wow! That’s some liquor cabinet. I think that much liquor would last me the rest of my life and then some. Maybe I need to have more parties.

  43. 43.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    June 17, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Holy shit that’s a lot of booze-I rarely have more than a single bottle of wine at home that I work my way through. Of course doesn’t help that I don’t like hard alcohol.

  44. 44.

    parsimon

    June 17, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    This happens every time we let Tunch loose near the liquor cabinet

    The little Tunch-sized rug there helps a lot, I expect.

  45. 45.

    Tom Q

    June 17, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    “But what I want to know is when did obama’s position on gay marriage become the new public option—the new single issue of the poutosphere?”

    In a way, it’s a tribute to what Obama DOES get done — as they continually have to find some new thing to complain about not getting.

    Gay marriage wasn’t supported by ANY Dem candidates in ’08 (unless Kucinich was for it; I confess to not poring over his campaign literature). The first term’s not over yet and suddenly it’s a requirement?

  46. 46.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 17, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    I could buy the “loyal dissent” bit if the Firebaggers ever acknowledged any of the good Obama’s done, or at the very least the obstacles he and we face. But they seem to have never heard of Claire McCaskill or Max Baucus, it’s all about Obama and their own noble disappointment.

    From reading the TPM twitter feed and a few other things over the last couple days, they’re using a 1996 questionaire on gay rights as evidence Obama “broke his promise” on supporting gay marriage. If gay marriage passed and was signed tomorrow, they’d be back on the public option and/or the total withdrawal from Afghanistan that they swear Obama promised them.

  47. 47.

    Tim, Interrupted

    June 17, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    @ Tom Q #25:

    What’s amazing is the zero credit he gives for the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell

    It’s worth noting that six months later, Obama and the other bureaucrats who must do so still have not “certified” that the military is “ready” for the actual, real world end of DADT. Meanwhile, investigations and persecutions continue.

  48. 48.

    amk

    June 17, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Tunch needs to start an exercise & diet regimen stat.

  49. 49.

    ChrisNYC

    June 17, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    Looks like you’re out of sherry.

  50. 50.

    bryanD

    June 17, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Did anyone see Olbermann on the The Colbert Report?
    It was weird. From the waist up Keith Olbermann was Keith Olbermann. From the waist down, Keith Olbermann was Larry Mondello. (No-pants Colbert is effortlessly overshadowed in trademark Fact v. Fiction way. And Keith will happily pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.)

    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/389740/june-15-2011/keith-olbermann

  51. 51.

    Citizen_X

    June 17, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    The guy just does not know moderation.

    Well, geez: look at him.

    Can we start calling him “Li’l Christie” now?

  52. 52.

    C.J.

    June 17, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    The whole NN thing prompted me to wade into some rec’d diaries over at Kos. My night is ruined.

  53. 53.

    ChrisNYC

    June 17, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Monday that he sees no roadblocks to ending the ban on openly gay military service, and if the top officers of each service recommend moving ahead on the repeal before the end of the month, he will endorse it.

    http://gay.americablog.com/2011/06/defense-secretary-dadt-repeal-ready-for.html

    Clear abuse and battering.

  54. 54.

    Comrade Mary

    June 17, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Those — those are the mini wine bottles you get on planes, right? Right?

  55. 55.

    TooManyJens

    June 17, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    My husband and I don’t even drink all that much and our liquor cabinet looks like that. You just … accumulate stuff, after a while.

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 17, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    @TooManyJens

    I think it’s when you don’t drink but do entertain that you accumulate stuff

  57. 57.

    TooManyJens

    June 17, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    Could be that. Though we haven’t really entertained in years, we (well, mostly he) used to throw a nice New Years’ Eve party.

  58. 58.

    asiangrrlMN

    June 17, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Tunchie. Yes. Too long. Glad people are having the fun in Minneapolis. It’s a good city, it is.

  59. 59.

    J. Michael Neal

    June 17, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    asiangrrl – Don’t worry. The party broke up and we’re all back to being miserable again.

  60. 60.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    June 17, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Love the new tag. :-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  61. 61.

    Mara Magee

    June 17, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    Wow. I’d love to have a liquor cabinet like that. So far mine is only solidly stocked with Curacao blue and some sort of Banana Schnapps.

    Might get a decent storm in Minneapolis tonight! Minneapolis is a wonderful city.

  62. 62.

    jl

    June 17, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Tunch looks particularly majestic in that pic.

    Anyone doubt me? Behold and compare:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ_127_Graf_Zeppelin

    Thanks, Cole

    Edit: is the famous Tunch glare of toughest love making some of those wine bottles fluoresce?

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    June 17, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    @Mara Magee
    What..the..fuck..?

  64. 64.

    karen marie

    June 17, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    @Tim, Interrupted: The guy who was discharged under DADT two, three weeks ago was subsequently reported to have requested the discharge on that basis.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    June 17, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    I feel exhausted after just watching a 4 minute video of Obama’s week. President Obama disappoints me at times, but we are so lucky to have this man as our president.

  66. 66.

    Martin

    June 17, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Liquor cabinets without variety are shitty liquor cabinets. Nice to see that Cole is doing in right.

  67. 67.

    kay

    June 17, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Well if anyone saw a fat grey bearded bear on the front sidewalk at 6:30 walking around trying to find the group and gradually looking more and more panicked due to noisy crowd phobias, that was me. Sorry I had to split.

    I’m so sorry. I kept looking for people, but that place is huge and crowded and the host wouldn’t take a res or work w/me at all.
    I also know my password, John Cole; the problem was the log-in. I just can’t eat, talk, look for people and write, all at the same time, and I’m not bringing a laptop to dinner anyway.
    Anyway, I am sorry we missed you, gbear. At 6:30 we were sitting right inside the door, waiting.

  68. 68.

    firebrand

    June 18, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Say it with me people – that cat is FFFFAT.

  69. 69.

    jurassicpork

    June 18, 2011 at 12:06 am

    That’s a cat? Jesus, at first I thought it was a polar bear.

  70. 70.

    Comrade Kevin

    June 18, 2011 at 12:06 am

    @kay: It was a pleasure to meet everyone, and thank you for organizing it!

  71. 71.

    Steeplejack

    June 18, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Night shift checking in. Three-day weekend starting now. Yee-haw!

    This is a new record for Balloon Juice, I think: not just two “Open Threads” clanging into each other, but both by the same person.

    Love the picture of Tunch.

  72. 72.

    kay

    June 18, 2011 at 12:09 am

    It was a pleasure to meet everyone, and thank you for organizing it!

    Thanks for coming. It was fun. I’ll see you at the (remaining) NN activities and such.

  73. 73.

    Mike Kay (True Grit)

    June 18, 2011 at 12:10 am

    @kay:

    I’ll see you at the (remaining) NN activities

    When do they burn Obama n effigy?

  74. 74.

    Kay

    June 18, 2011 at 12:29 am

    When do they burn Obama n effigy?

    I don’t know. The whole Obama-professional Left conflict doesn’t affect me in any real way, due to my extreme shallowness, and the fact that I’m an amateur Leftist :)

    Mostly I run around chatting with the non-professional Left, drinking a lot of coffee and taking random photos of people I like, personally.

  75. 75.

    eemom

    June 18, 2011 at 12:31 am

    ahem…..no pix of this historic BJ get together??

    Surely everyone can’t be of the Cole-esque 2 legs + 1 elbow persuasion….?

  76. 76.

    Kay

    June 18, 2011 at 12:35 am

    ahem…..no pix of this historic BJ get together??

    They were reluctant to have their picture taken, so we agreed that until John does, we don’t have to, either.
    I think I mentioned that last part. The condition. Perhaps. I might have.

  77. 77.

    policomic

    June 18, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Nice meeting Kay, Comrade Kevin, J. Michael Neal, The Poopymans, and Soon-to-Be-Lawyer Gal. The rest of you shoulda been there.

  78. 78.

    General Stuck

    June 18, 2011 at 12:40 am

    There is a pic of some blond haired dude on Cole’s twitter account, unless it’s a disinfo pic of someone else.

  79. 79.

    Comrade Kevin

    June 18, 2011 at 12:54 am

    @General Stuck: He has gone back to a picture of Tunch.

    edit to add: That other picture was pretty frightening, though.

  80. 80.

    kay

    June 18, 2011 at 12:57 am

    blond haired dude on Cole’s twitter account

    I’m jut skidding, Stuck, about the picture. I object to all this photo-coercion :)

    I don’t want any part of it. No how.

  81. 81.

    Comrade Kevin

    June 18, 2011 at 1:11 am

    That picture looked suspiciously similar to Father Jack from Father Ted.

  82. 82.

    General Stuck

    June 18, 2011 at 1:17 am

    I don’t want any part of it. No how.

    Don’t blame you, and am pretty much the same. anonymity has it’s own mystique. or something like that. :)

    Hope you are having fun Kay, and can give us a full report on the NN goings on.

  83. 83.

    Steeplejack

    June 18, 2011 at 2:01 am

    @stuckinred:

    Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! He earned his way into pop music heaven if only for “Popsicle Toes.”

  84. 84.

    Steeplejack

    June 18, 2011 at 2:30 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I think it’s when you [. . .] entertain that you accumulate stuff.

    Yeah, because your dick guests drink your good single-malt Scotch and leave you their bottle of Crown Royal.

  85. 85.

    Comrade Kevin

    June 18, 2011 at 3:03 am

    @Steeplejack: All I know is, I’ll be pissed off if, when I get back to California, my brother has helped himself to my bottles of wine.

  86. 86.

    wormtown

    June 18, 2011 at 7:12 am

    That picture looked suspiciously similar to Father Jack from Father Ted.

    Good one. I loved that show!

  87. 87.

    Mara Magee

    June 18, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    @Corner Stone – Oh, probably should of mentioned that it’s because I *can’t* drink that crap. I’m not getting silly off of Curacao on a regular basis or anything. I swear.

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