Apparently now includes cheering foreign nations to shoot your fellow citizen.
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They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!
When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.
So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.
A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires
And we’re all out of bubblegum.
Usually wrong but never in doubt
Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.
Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?
Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard
The worst democrat is better than the best republican.
All your base are belong to Tunch.
Only Democrats have agency, apparently.
No one could have predicted…
Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.
I was promised a recession.
The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.
Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.
In my day, never was longer.
Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.
Eh, that’s media spin. biden’s health is fine and he’s doing a good job.
You cannot shame the shameless.
If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.
… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact
Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?
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Han's Solo
Oh come now, I’m sure the wingnut that was calling for the murder of Americans would never call for such a thing if there were fellow Republicans involved. But what are the chances that Republicans would be on a flotilla bringing emergency supplies to desperate non-white people? Somewhere below zero is my bet.
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
Israel: The only fetish everyone in US Politics shares.
I’d pray for another Rabin if I wasn’t for damn certain that he’d be assassinated too, and we’d probably have our pols cheer if only to assure that Netanyahu’s fee-fee’s aren’t hurt.
pharniel
Sounds like Aide and Comforte to me. Someone should find out what kind of countertops Redstate has.
Svensker
A friend is supposed to be on the flotilla. She’s a teacher of non-violent response to conflict and she’s been working hard with other passengers to try to prepare them with how to respond to different situations — guns, stun grenades, tear gas, batons, etc. I’m really scared for her.
But I suppose I shouldn’t care if she gets hurt or killed because she’s just a piece of shit scumbag, according to RedState and other uber patriots. So that’s all right then.
Linda Featheringill
Why is the US involved in this? To prevent Israel from being demolished by a group of unarmed civilians bobbing around on the Mediterranean? Or because by their actions, they are presenting the Other Side as being made up of humans that also have a point of view that needs to be considered?
geg6
If fucking Israel even points a gun their way, I will go full PLO on them. That is all.
IrishGirl
Well clearly its a typical fascist response. The fact that the Clinton State Dept is mirroring that belief is the more worrisome development.
Jay
Josh Trevino is such a bitch. Notice how he started trying to split hairs when called on his original tweets? That’s what everyone who’s been “caught” does.
Truly, Trevino is the guy you call when Roger Stone gets a cold.
daveNYC
Love the crazy Israel-uber-alles crew, according to them you’re either 110% behind everthing that Israel does or you might as well be manning the ovens.
evinfuilt
I saw Trevinos bit over the weekend and was completely unshocked that a keyboard commando fantasizes having our own citizens killed for his amusement.
That Secretary Clinton says nearly the same, in a diplomatic way, is deplorable.
Why does she feel Israel needs to defend themselves from a peaceful protest outside their own borders/waters.
Moonbatman
It is if you include the War Criminals G. H. and G. W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld John Ashcroft and their wingnut Rethug supporters who currently believe slave owner Thomas Jefferson’s quote “Dissent Is the Highest Form of Patriotism“.
Peace Out. The Power is Yours. Free Crystal Mangum
Just Some Fuckhead
@Svensker:
She certainly doesn’t sound innocent to me.
Dennis SGMM
@evenfuilt
She didn’t just come up with this statement on her own. The one thing that worries Democratic pols more than the economy, jobs, civil rights, or education, is being called “Soft on terrorism,” by even a single Republican.
different church-lady
Greenwald makes me want to hurt my desk with my forehead every damn time now.
Yes, Glenn, saying “don’t go in that neighborhood — you’ll get shot” is so totally the same as saying “I hope you go into that neighborhood and get shot.”
Just Some Fuckhead
@Dennis:
Meh, scratch a Clinton, find a Republican. I see no evidence for the position that HRC is anything other than a hawk.
dedc79
Really, some idiot tweets something like this and it’s worth a whole diatribe by Greenwald and mention on this blog? come on, this is not news, it’s nothing about nothing.
I also think people are reading more into HIllary’s statement then is there. She’s trying to avoid a repeat of what happened last time, that’s all.
Dennis SGMM
@dedc79
If she wants to avoid a repeat of what happened last time then telling Israel that it can kiss US foreign aid goodbye if they kill or injure an American would work nicely too.
General Stuck
Hillary Clinton did not endorse using violence on the Flotillas. Greenwald has crossed another line, along with all the other ones crossed regarding any semblance of a relationship with the truth
dedc79
Dennis SGMM
Who knows what kind of diplomacy is going on behind the scenes? I’m sure Israel is hearing from the U.S. (and we know they’re hearing warnings from other countries as well) to do everything they can to avoid confrontation. Hillary’s message was to American citizens.
Greenwald saw that idiotic tweet and wanted to make the comparison to Hillary even though there is no comparison.
Zifnab
Clinton doesn’t sound like she condones Israeli violence nearly so much as she simply anticipates it. It’s like saying “Don’t poke the bear with a stick and act surprised when it swipes at you.”
Greenwald’s “evil statesmen!” reading between the lines is getting a bit annoying. Really, “Clinton hopes Americans will die” is the kind of right-wing vomit I would expect out of Limbaugh or The Weekly Standard.
Dennis SGMM
@dedc79
I’m just weary of the US either condoning or ignoring whatever Israel chooses to do. To me, Hillary’s warning sounded more like “We have to let them shoot you so don’t go there.” If Israel wanted to arrest these people for violating her border that would be fine with me. Shooting someone for trespassing seems a bit beyond the pale. If an Arab nation was to act in the same way the drones would already be overhead.
b-psycho
Ok, so attempting to get past the IDF and reach Gaza is likely to result in being shot. That was already established. Duh.
The question is: should it? Do people attempting to get through automatically deserve to be shot, merely for attempting to go to Gaza? Does their purpose not matter?
Baron Jrod of Keeblershire
Clinton didn’t say she hopes Israelis will kill Americans on the flotilla. She just said that she doesn’t care if Israelis kill Americans.
BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG DIFFERENCE, LOONY FAAAARBAGGERS.
But hey, what can you expect from Glenn “The Greatest Monster The World Has Ever Known” Greenwald? Of course a man who is literally worse than fifty Hitlers and Pol Pots rolled together would say something like that!
Just Some Fuckhead
Mmmmmmm. Can I get one of those with a cruncy Stalin center?
Davebo
It should also be noted that the last Israeli attack occurred in international waters, not Israeli waters.
Boarding a ship registered in a different country and killing many of those aboard it used to be considered an act of war.
New tag? IOKIYI
Comrade Dread
Not exactly a big surprise.
If 9/11 had somehow only killed liberals and they could confirm that fact, I’m pretty sure some places would have seen conservatives dancing in the streets chanting God is Great.
Maude
I despise Clinton, but she doesn’t advocate killing Americans.
That made me choke a bit.
lacp
So…when the UN authorizes a “humanitarian mission” in Libya, US gov’t is all down with cruise missiles ‘n shit. When the UN says the blockade of Gaza is illegal, US gov’t is….what?
Ed Marshall
@Dennis SGMM
They aren’t trying to cross Israeli waters. Israel doesn’t even say that. They say they are running a blockade on Gaza under the auspices of the San Remo legal regime. Even worse, they are probably technically correct (although their implementation of the blockade is cruel and petty). Liberals need to start distrusting international law. It wasn’t written by the weak, and it shows when you start looking under the surface.
Uncle Clarence Thomas
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I believe eelmom and others in her wiggly balloonbagger cult have pointed out incessantly that GG is literally worse than 666 Hitlers and 666 Pol Pots rolled together – with NO crunchy Stalin centers for you, also too.
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b-psycho
I agree. No matter what flowery rhetoric it’s dressed up in, international law is just used as a cudgel by the preexisting power structure, and conveniently ignored in the rare case it would rightfully point back at them.
One quibble: this is true of any law.
PIGL
@Maude: she pretty much damn well is, and in so many words. She is saying that Israel has a right to defend itself and that this right will be triggered by the flotilla. That implies that the Israeli’s will come charging in guns a-blazing just like last time and kill people.
What Ms. Clinton should be doing, in my opinion, is telling Israel to back the hell off.
What she is doing is serving notice to the flotilla, with an implied blessing.
moops
Where are the usual Balloonbaggers rending their garments about a link to GG ?
step it up you lazy jerks. Get frothy with reflexive disdain and contempt. Be sure to lament his cherry picking and lawyering his points while you do the same thing to his post.
I can at least be spared the truly lowbrow antisemitism complaints. BJ has that over most of Glenn’s critics.
Ed Marshall
@moops
I’ve been known to cuss out Glenn Greenwald about law. I’m sure this will come off as some sort of elitist snobbery about a profession that I’ve come to take much less seriously through my education in it. However, if you have even a little legal education, Glenn’s show looks bad. Like someone working a jury and hoping like hell that the opposing counsel is asleep. Like he is bullshitting the hoopleheads (and admittedly, it’s really all bullshit anyway, but he has the training and education to *know* that he is bullshitting). It’s not “he’s wrong”, it’s “he’s lying”.
Ed Marshall
and I have nothing bad to say about this post, because it’s good.
fuzz
The girl who died in 2003 when the Israelis knocked a house down on her, Rachel Corrie (I think it was in Gaza but might be wrong) has actually become a right wing punch line and not only her but her parents are openly mocked by Americans constantly. There was also another member of Corrie’s org (they’re called international solidarity movement) that was shot by an Israeli sniper (who was actually a Bedouin Arab and admitted in court he did it for no reason)and his govt Britain didn’t care.
I agree that maybe these kids weren’t exactly doing the smartest thing in the world, chaining themselves to houses set to be demolished and walking around a war zone during combat in an orange shirt like the British guy, but the fact that in the US they’re treated as the equivalent of John Lindh is pretty sad.
Ed Marshall
@fuzz
It was Gaza and I had met Rachel Corrie. I used to live with another ISM Palestine member, he actually took so many rubber bullets and tear gas cans to the head that the ISM made him an example of what not to do and called him “action man”. As in “don’t be action man”. He was stubborn and refused any Israeli orders in the West Bank and Gaza, and he rented a car and got pissed at an incredibly stupid roadblock that stuck him on Palestinian roads with a five hour wait to deal with checkpoints and just veered over into the settler road and drove. A Merkeva tank attempted to kill him with a flechette round and he drove through a bunch of anti-tank entrenchment trying to avoid the killing. He sliced open the gas tank doing it, and the Rent-a-Car place he got the thing from in Israel is still trying to sue him.
fuzz
@Ed
I’m probably more pro-Israel than a lot of people on here but I have immense respect for the ism people, they have convictions and they’re willing to put their lives on the line for what they believe in, knowing very often that their own governments and countrymen think of them as traitors. It’s more than you can say for almost anyone that claims to be pro-Israel and more than you can say for almost anyone, period.
Roy G
The ‘wingers new war cry: We are all Dancing Israelis now.
Pococurante
What is the point of the flotillas again?
The Egyptian border is open.