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You are here: Home / Open Threads / I love the smell of Franzia in the morning

I love the smell of Franzia in the morning

by DougJ|  June 30, 201111:33 am| 115 Comments

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The wingers don’t seem very excited about DickGate but FranziaPundit amused me:

Am I the only one who takes more offense at the blurted phrase “Oh my God” (by Joe Scarborough) than the use of the word “dick” to explain the President’s behavior? I think insulting the President is rough political discourse, but saying “Oh my God” is taking the Lord’s name in vain.

[….]

But calling people a dick. It’s rude, but actual dicks aren’t able to take offense, and even if they were, they wouldn’t determine your fate in the afterlife.

I have no real point here, except that sometimes I forget how weird that blog is.

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    June 30, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Shall we hold a fundraiser to buy her a fainting couch and a string of pearls to clutch? Sounds like she needs them.

  2. 2.

    kd bart

    June 30, 2011 at 11:38 am

    See what allowing same sex marriage in NY has let loose?

  3. 3.

    Shinobi

    June 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I play this game, League of Legends. The players of this game frequently ignore Wheaton’s Law (Don’t be a dick.) They are HUGE dicks, their favorite thing is to endlessly grief someone and then say things like “U Mad? U mad bro?”

    Unfortunately for nice people the bigger dick someone is, the better player they usually are. To be good at LoL one has to be willing to eschew most ideas about fair play and honor and be willing to aggravate the other team into doing stupid stuff.

    What I’m saying is that being a dick is sometimes a feature, not a bug.

  4. 4.

    Zifnab

    June 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

    But calling people a dick. It’s rude, but actual dicks aren’t able to take offense, and even if they were, they wouldn’t determine your fate in the afterlife.

    Of all the reasons Joe Scarborough is going to hell, I don’t think “casual use of ‘God’ as an invective” is one of them. Someone’s been watching too many Church Lady SNL reruns.

  5. 5.

    Served

    June 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Oh my God. She must have passed out last night and woke up thinking it was 1838. Franzia is a hell of a drug.

  6. 6.

    Morbo

    June 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Oh, Jesus Christ…

    Oops.

  7. 7.

    Bulworth

    June 30, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Am I the only one who takes more offense at the blurted phrase “Oh my God” (by Joe Scarborough) than the use of the word “dick” to explain the President’s behavior?

    Yes.

  8. 8.

    Comrade Dread

    June 30, 2011 at 11:41 am

    I don’t take offense at either.

    I wish we lived in a world where all of the media actually was antagonistic to all politicians. It would keep our leadership more honest and accountable to the people.

    As for OMG, I personally prefer to go with “Sweet Frickin’ Buddha!” as my blasphemy of choice, but YMMV.

  9. 9.

    RSA

    June 30, 2011 at 11:42 am

    But calling people a dick. It’s rude, but actual dicks aren’t able to take offense…

    Whereas “actual” God does? Okay.

  10. 10.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    June 30, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Jesus Fucking Christ.

  11. 11.

    kc

    June 30, 2011 at 11:44 am

    God is a dick.

  12. 12.

    Ed Marshall

    June 30, 2011 at 11:45 am

    hrmm..

    Why is he editor-in-large at Time if he can’t explain things as accessible to him as his own mind?

    I actually feel bad for Halperin a little. Research shows that people are actually quite terrible at remembering why they did things, and after a very short period they will have invented something that fits the result of their actions that had zero to do with why they made whatever decision they chose.

  13. 13.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Breaking News: According to John McCain it wasn’t Joey Scar that said, “Oh my God,” it was the illegal alien Mexicans!

    Build the dang fence!

  14. 14.

    JPL

    June 30, 2011 at 11:47 am

    OMG, Halperin has a limited vocabulary.

  15. 15.

    jeff

    June 30, 2011 at 11:48 am

    I really don’t understand why this is all such a huge thing. I even watched the video. Is it because Halperin is a news editor? And, not, say, an actor or novelist or supermarket manager?

  16. 16.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 11:48 am

    It’s rude, but actual dicks aren’t able to take offense, and even if they were, they wouldn’t determine your fate in the afterlife.

    [spoiler]neither do actual gods[/spoiler]

  17. 17.

    Culture of Truth

    June 30, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Halperin does all the punditry in hell.

    “This is great news for Satan..”

  18. 18.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 30, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Oh, thank you. That is funny on so many levels. And I suspect that the writer was entirely sincere, which makes it even funnier.

  19. 19.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Seriously though, God doesn’t get MSNBC, they don’t have that channel on planet Kolob.

    Which reminds me, God hates Time Warner Cable. Their customer service is a plot by Satan to cause more suicides.

  20. 20.

    Southern Beale

    June 30, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Am I the only one who takes more offense at the blurted phrase “Oh my God” (by Joe Scarborough) than the use of the word “dick” to explain the President’s behavior?

    Yes. Yes, you are.

    Perhaps you should get out more.

  21. 21.

    ChrisNYC

    June 30, 2011 at 11:52 am

    More and more Althouse brings to mind Elizabeth Taylor in Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf. She must put on a hell of a performance in the classroom.

  22. 22.

    Comrade Dread

    June 30, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Which reminds me, God hates Time Warner Cable. Their customer service is a plot by Satan to cause more suicides.

    No, Cable companies and banks are a plot by the followers of Cthulu to stoke a murderous, unreasonable insanity in the hearts of mankind to prepare the world for the rising of the Old Ones and the mad orgy of carnage and violence that will follow.

    I’ve said too much.

  23. 23.

    James K. Polk, Esq.

    June 30, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I hate Halperin.

    That being said, I don’t give two shits about intemperate language.

  24. 24.

    Mark S.

    June 30, 2011 at 11:55 am

    It’s rude, but actual dicks aren’t able to take offense

    Can we make that a revolving tagline?

  25. 25.

    bkny

    June 30, 2011 at 11:57 am

    lawdy lawdy … break out the smelling salts. i saw that this morning, and frankly didn;t think that much of it, other than that halperin is a dick.

    the frat pat crew did seem to enjoy it, despite their feigned verklemptness…

  26. 26.

    Martin

    June 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

    I wish we lived in a world where all of the media actually was antagonistic to all politicians. It would keep our leadership more honest and accountable to the people.

    Calling someone a dick doesn’t accomplish that, though.

    But I do agree on your take on the cable companies. I think you paint too rosy a picture, though.

  27. 27.

    Citizen_X

    June 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

    they don’t have that channel on planet Kolob

    Nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddd!

    (Me too, of course, because I got it.)

  28. 28.

    j low

    June 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Dicks don’t take offense, they make santorum.

  29. 29.

    handsmile

    June 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Please, please, spare a little kindness for the poor woman!

    This is a person who has yet to come to terms with her grief that the promised Rapture on May 21 did not occur. Just imagine her despair: continuing to live in such a morally-besmirched, irredeemably fallen world. “Why, O Lord, why,” she beseeches.

    Crickets.

  30. 30.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    I’m going to open myself up to some righteous bashing here but Andrew Sullivan has a pretty good piece up right now on the GOP’s Economic Terrorism. Sure, you have to get past the reach around he gives the Simpson Bowles plan, but other than that it is admirable.

    What you probably cannot do is negotiate with economic equivalent of terrorists. What Cantor and Boehner are doing is essentially letting the world know they have an economic WMD in their possession. And it will go off if you do not give them everything they want, with no negotiation possible. That’s the nature of today’s GOP. It needs to be destroyed before it can recover.

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/06/boehners-economic-terrorism.html

  31. 31.

    dr. bloor

    June 30, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    @Comrade:

    I wish we lived in a world where all of the media actually was antagonistic to all politicians. It would keep our leadership more honest and accountable to the people.

    QFT.

    And, if Halperin can get away with saying this, Obama is free to remind everyone that Halperin’s the fucking moron who thought McCain’s ignorance about how many houses he owned was somehow a plus.

  32. 32.

    Ash Can

    June 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Let this be a lesson to all you kids out there — if you soak your brain in too much cheap booze for too long, it stops working, and you end up posting things like this in public and making an ass of yourself.

  33. 33.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    My understanding of the commandment regarding “taking the Lord’s name in vain” is that it’s more a prohibition against idle oaths and blasphemy. Like, you shouldn’t say “I swear to God I won’t ever see another Michael Bay movie” or “That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.”

    But saying “Oh my God,” even about a minor matter, strikes me as just what you’re supposed to do: turning to God for refuge and comfort in all things. Am I wrong?

  34. 34.

    The Dangerman

    June 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    The Dude misspoke; he should have called him a weiner.

  35. 35.

    JPL

    June 30, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Han’s Solo I want Sullivan to write an article on how easy it would be for him to buy health care insurance, if he needed to. Then I’ll read him again.

  36. 36.

    scav

    June 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    @Cris. Idle Oaths? So it’s ok if we really really mean it? Brill. Rough luck on Eric though.

  37. 37.

    Ash Can

    June 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    @ Han’s Solo: I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Andrew’s financial adviser explained to him yesterday what would happen to his portfolio if the House Republicans had their way.

  38. 38.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    JPL – I understand your sentiment.

  39. 39.

    catclub

    June 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Comrade Dread @ 8

    I like ‘Sweet Fancy Moses’ as used by Bucky in Get Fuzzy.

  40. 40.

    BGinCHI

    June 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Goddamn the pusherman.

    And seriously, if God is offended at “Oh my God,” then he is really, really gonna be sore at all the mass murdering, child molesting, and 10 commandment breaking by, um, lots of folks.

  41. 41.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    @scav: Idle Oaths? So it’s ok if we really really mean it?

    Isn’t it? I’m not a student of religion, but then I’m not so sure that Ann Althouse is either.

    But like when Moses goes “The Lord God will kill your firstborn unless you let my people go” that was a sanctioned use of the big guy’s name. Or even “With God as my witness, I will never go hungry again.” You’re not forbidden from swearing to God, you’re just supposed to be sincere and respectful about it.

  42. 42.

    stuckinred

    June 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    By far the best Steppenwolf song

  43. 43.

    UncertaintyVicePrincipal

    June 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    So this is Althouse commenting about someone calling the President a dick:

    I bet Halperin was reverting to a style of speech that he uses with his colleagues, off-camera, and he thought he could stick it in,

    Woman has issues. Reminds me of this guy. Watch the part starting at 3:25, if not the whole thing.

  44. 44.

    Joel

    June 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    @ Shinobi

    Alternatively, you could just stop playing. Don’t have that option in politics and governance, unfortunately.

  45. 45.

    stuckinred

    June 30, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Just trying to make his way home
    Like a holy rolling stone
    Back up to heaven all alone
    Just trying to make his way home
    Nobody calling on the phone
    ‘cept for the Pope maybe in Rome

  46. 46.

    Davis X. Machina

    June 30, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Idle Oaths? So it’s ok if we really really mean it?

    Costanza’s Law.

  47. 47.

    TaMara (BHF)

    June 30, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Oh, my God, Jesus fucking Christ, do you people not have better things to do than to harangue this poor woman for her moral outrage? Allah be damned and Sweet frickin’Budda (h/t Comrade Dread, though I will be stealing it from now on) you are all such dicks.

  48. 48.

    handsmile

    June 30, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Cris (without an H) (#33):

    Sister Dolores “Suffer the little children to be struck by me” Ruthless instructed my catechism class that any pronouncement of the Lord’s name, other than expressed in prayer, was a venal sin. Venal sins, of course, like marijuana, are cumulative offenses and will lead to heroin, the drug choice of mortal sinners who will suffer eternal damnation.

    I suspect that this den of cutthroats, reprobates, and heathens may not be the ideal site for a theological disquisition.

  49. 49.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    @handsmile: I suspect that this den of cutthroats, reprobates, and heathens may not be the ideal site for a theological disquisition.

    But they’re all I have :(

  50. 50.

    NonyNony

    June 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    @Comrade Dread

    feh – Cthulhu doesn’t do “plots”. Cthulhu just rises from the sea and causes despair and madness by his very existence. Lesser gods “plot” – Cthulhu just is.

    And besides, everyone knows that the entire US cable TV system is one of Nyarlathotep’s plots – the entire US Chamber of Commerce is controlled by his minions…

    (I’m HIGHLY amused that the Firefox spellchecker knows the correct spelling of “Cthulhu”. Though it doesn’t care much for Nyarlathotep. Though, really, who can blame it?)

  51. 51.

    FlipYrWhig

    June 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Um, isn’t this the person who thought onion rings were an obvious vaginal symbol?

  52. 52.

    Michael D.

    June 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    I’m just commenting to point out that saying “Oh my God” or “God dammit” is NOT taking the Lord’s name in vain.

    Thanking God for your football/Grammy win – as if to say “God is on my side, not yours” IS taking God’s name in vain.

    That is all.

  53. 53.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Michael D @ 52 is correct.

    The 12th level of hell was specially designed for former Yankee baseball players who thanked God after a victory.

    Some sins are freaking unforgivable.

  54. 54.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    I’m just commenting to point out that saying “Oh my God” or “God dammit” is NOT taking the Lord’s name in vain.
    __
    Thanking God for your football/Grammy win – as if to say “God is on my side, not yours” IS taking God’s name in vain.

    Yet, the later are adored by the jeebofascists as true expressions of faith, and the former cause them to go into conniptions.

  55. 55.

    Alex S.

    June 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Dicks and saying the Lord’s name in vain go well together.

    @ UncertaintyVicePrincipal, 43:

    Really??? She said ‘stick it in’?

  56. 56.

    Culture of Truth

    June 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    damn Yankees

  57. 57.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Oh, my God, Jesus fucking Christ, do you people not have better things to do than to harangue this poor woman for her moral outrage? Allah be damned and Sweet frickin’Budda (h/t Comrade Dread, though I will be stealing it from now on) you are all such dicks.

    Thank FSM that you didn’t include the blasphemous “on toastpoints” at the end of the bolded portion, or you’d be going straight to aich-ee-double-hockysticks for that outburst.

  58. 58.

    NonyNony

    June 30, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    @Michael D.

    To be serious for a moment there’s a lot of discourse about what “taking God’s name in vain” means. Your opinion is one of many liberal theologians. Evangelical literalists, however, take the opposite approach – that blasphemy such as saying “Oh My God” is taking his name in vain.

    It’s truly ironic to me that the self-proclaimed biblical literalists can’t even get THIS one right, since even if you want to read the damn phrase literally using King James English (rather than going back to the source), it’s still about using God’s name in vain. A literal reading would suggest that the restriction is on bandying about the word “Yahweh” lightly. Which of course is the way the Pharisees and later Rabbinical movement read the book and why they substituted “Lord” in wherever the name was spelled out in the book.

  59. 59.

    TR

    June 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Steve Benen nails it.

  60. 60.

    PeakVT

    June 30, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    @TaMara (BHF): you need to add the whisper tag at the end next time.

  61. 61.

    Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen

    June 30, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    That scrabbling noise you hear is mAlthouse scraping the bottom of the Barrel D’Outrage.

  62. 62.

    Comrade Dread

    June 30, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    A literal reading would suggest that the restriction is on bandying about the word “Yahweh” lightly.

    “All I said was that this halibut was good enough for Jehovah…”

  63. 63.

    MFA

    June 30, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    “Thou shalt not take the job title of the Lord thy God in vain.”

    I guess that’s what Ann thinks He meant to write on the stone tablet.

    .

  64. 64.

    Poopyman

    June 30, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    @ NonyNony:

    So you’re saying that Burger King sins every time it tells me to “Have it Yahweh?”

  65. 65.

    Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac

    June 30, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    @Citizen X:
    “‘they don’t have that channel on planet Kolob’

    Nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddd!

    (Me too, of course, because I got it.)”

    /nerd
    If you are referring to BSG, you mean planet Kobol. Kolob is the mormon god planet, mormonism being what the original BSG was based upon.
    /endnerd

  66. 66.

    Poopyman

    June 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    @Comrade Dread:

    That had occurred to me also too, but I’m afraid the kids won’t get it.

  67. 67.

    LittlePig

    June 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    That scrabbling noise you hear is mAlthouse scraping slurping the bottom of the Barrel D’Outrage.

    Fixx0red.

  68. 68.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Agoraphobic Kleptomaniac @ 65 – Oh, that’s why he said nerrrrrrddddd. I didn’t get that at first.

    Don’t get me wrong, I loved BSG, but that wasn’t the reference I was making.

  69. 69.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    @Poopyman: That had occurred to me also too, but I’m afraid the kids won’t get it.

    You need to give the kids some credit.

  70. 70.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    @Poopyman: So you’re saying that Burger King sins every time it tells me to “Have it Yahweh?”

    Where is your god now?

  71. 71.

    JGabriel

    June 30, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    I really don’t care who Halperin calls a dick. Personally, I think should MSNBC come out with a statement that says:

    We didn’t suspend Mark Halperin for saying dick. We suspended him because we’re looking for a higher level of analysis and discourse than you can get at a tea party rally. In other words, we suspended Mr. Halperin because he’s a jackass.

    Of course they’ll never say that because, sadly, they really did suspend Halperin just for saying dick. And there are so many better reasons.

    .

  72. 72.

    Yutsano

    June 30, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    To be serious for a moment

    You do realize this is Balloon Juice non?

  73. 73.

    Han's Solo

    June 30, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    You see, this is why I love this blog above all others. The commenters, and the writers, bring the funny!

    Politics isn’t been bag, but it sure can be amusing if your sense of humor is sadistic enough!

  74. 74.

    scav

    June 30, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    I’m really really really going to have to remember that this one is all about not making idle oaths and bringing up the first-name-basis of the LRD in casual superficial conversation but seems to leave free the use of the dreaded rotund appellation in fits of rage when I entirely fucking mean it. The Third is sort of the copyright commandment. Always does to read the fine print I guess.

  75. 75.

    jl

    June 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    @59 TR: thanks. I think Benen does get it right. And for at least a few paragraphs, Sullivan forces himself to speak the truth. The GOP are being extremist. But the completely bankrupt corporate media tries to sell the story that its the Democrats’ who are the problem.

    What I wonder is why corporate flacks like Boehner and McConnel are playing along the tea party line? Surely they will bend to the will of the Chamber of Commerce and cobble together some compromise with corporate Democrats? Maybe? I don’t know. Maybe the new teabaggers in the House are so nuts that they won’t listen to threats, and Boehner doesn’t have enough votes, even with corporate Democrats? That would be scary.

    On the other hand, I heard a radio report on some polling. The population at large is unenthusiastic about the next election, and each party’s base is especially unenthusiastic. The GOP primary voter base is really unenthusiastic, and slightly over 70 percent of them want ‘more choices’ in the next presidential election. So, looking on the bright side, the corporate GOP feels it needs a high stakes game of chicken and a symbolic show of bravery and brinksmanship to get their base roused up.

    What I wonder is if that, faced with reality, anything can get the GOP primary base roused up. The teabaggers are a heterogenous group. You have the small corps of corporate hacks and flack and astroturfers, and swindlers whose main goal seems to be making a little cash out of their local tin pot teabagger dukedoms. But they are such a small number they are irrelevant in an election.

    Then you have the upper middle class aging white spite and greed sociopath vote.

    I don’t personally know anyone in the above groups.

    The teabaggers I know personally are people who can be described, a little uncharitably as ‘losers’. These are older people on social security who do not have a pension to supplement it, and are afraid the gummint will give the money to some one else, and see any change or any government program that spends on anything other than themselves as a threat to their fixed incomes.

    Then there are failed entrepreneurs and micro rentiers whose irresponsible unplanned and poorly executed projects have served only to drain their assets. If only you could spin all the crushed beer cans into gold they would be rich. They blame everyone except themselves and the corporate forces that have made the economic environment so unforgiving.

    Then there are older whites who unimaginatively bought into the old style American dream: grind away at a job, buy a house, play the lower middle class workaday game and things would be OK.

    These last three groups, who are the teabaggers I know, live in a fearful bitter resentful fantasy world. I wonder what candidate, what noninsane proposals, in the real could could ever generate enthusiasm after the great hopes raised by the fake astroturf teabagger revolts.

    The GOP has to inspire these last three groups somehow, and when I am optimistic, I think corporate hacks like McConnell and Boehner and the GOP ringleaders, are pulling stunts to improve the morale of these brave GOP troopers they will need in the upcoming election.

  76. 76.

    lacp

    June 30, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    “…actual dicks aren’t able to take offense.” And Winebox knows this…how, exactly?

  77. 77.

    cleek

    June 30, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    What I wonder is why corporate flacks like Boehner and McConnel are playing along the tea party line?

    they’re not. they’re trying to use the issue as leverage to negotiate a hard bargain. they think they have the Dems over a barrel, and the Dems think it’s the other way ’round. they’re both wrong. and they’ll find a way to come to an agreement, eventually. it will enrage the easily angered, but what else is new…

    IMO.

  78. 78.

    Mark S.

    June 30, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    From a review of Rock-em Sock-em Robots 3: Pink Floyd Album Title:

    I would say that this movie objectifies women, except for the obviously deep respect and affection it shows for objects.

  79. 79.

    scav

    June 30, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    @lacp: “…actual dicks aren’t able to take offense.” And Winebox knows this…how, exactly?

    Easy-beasy. Same way she knows how God feels about things. Never seen either, firmly believes in the existence of both and visualizes them as moving their lips to the voices in her head. Jury is out on if she’s gotten them confused.

  80. 80.

    jl

    June 30, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    @77: Yeah, I forgot that part. They think, perhaps correctly perhaps not, that the Democrats will fold, so they count up what they have won so far, and up the ante for the next round.

    Maybe they sense this is the last round.

    There is more to the press than paid court clowns like Halperin, Scarborough and his codependent sidekick, and Althouse.

    There are also the headline writers. And what they seem to be churning out today, from what I heard on drive time radio and the internet is that the GOP won’t stand for any tax increases for the wealthy. I think the headline writers are doing their job well today. And the number of people who hear the headline blurbs dwarf the number who listen the the likes of Halperin and Scarborough.

    But then I live in the liberal hellhole of Northern California. Maybe the headlines in other areas are different.

  81. 81.

    Poopyman

    June 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Digby broadly quotes Greg Sargent on this and then says:

    This really is nonsense. It’s not the word “dick” that’s the problem, fergawdsake. It’s not pictures of dicks either. It’s that these people have contrived this absurd set of shallow manners in which saying dick or taking a picture of a dick is wrong while lying, manipulating and cavalierly risking the country’s future (which is what Obama was allegedly being a dick about!) is considered perfectly acceptable.
    __
    It’s the perfect manifestation of the Village. A bunch of decadent aristocrats pretending to be virgins and nuns, moralizing over trivia as a “lesson” for the rubes, all the while indulging in a debauched orgy of power and privilege.
    __
    Read the whole thing. Sargent discusses Halperin’s personal part in creating this ridiculous system and admits that it’s poetic justice that he would be caught up in it. But keep in mind that among Halperin’s fellow Villagers, calling President Obama a “dick” will be considered an act of macho rebellion — and that being suspended in the middle of the summer is unlikely to be a hardship for a millionaire.

  82. 82.

    Mark S.

    June 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Does Althouse realize when you call someone a dick, you’re insulting that person and not male genitalia in general?

    Also, too, does she get offended when the Beach Boys’ “God Only Knows” plays on the radio?

  83. 83.

    BTD

    June 30, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    That was the post I liked this morning too.

    Gotta love WineBox.

  84. 84.

    hilts

    June 30, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Previous Mark Halperin diss of Obama

    HALPERIN [discussing John Edwards’ potential endorsement of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama]: “I can tell you, he’s really skeptical of her ability to be the kind of president he wants. But, he kinda thinks Obama is…he thinks Obama is kind of a pussy…He has real questions about Obama’s toughness, his readiness for the office.”

    h/t http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/medialog/archive/2008/02/12/dubious-quote-of-the-day-halperin-on-edwards-on-obama.aspx

  85. 85.

    hilts

    June 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Previous Mark Halperin apology for stating that John Edwards thought Obama was a pussy

    “I’m sorry. In a live radio interview this week, I used a word I shouldn’t have. The fact that I was conveying other people’s words is no excuse for my lapse in judgment. It won’t happen again.” — Mark Halperin

    h/t http://mydd.com/users/tarheel/posts/mark-halperin-calls-obama-a-quotpussyquot

  86. 86.

    scav

    June 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    For no reason except that it’s one of my favorite glyphs and I think it might be generally useful.

    The Penis-Headed Manikin Glyph
    The glyph can be read as xib’ah “underworld lord” (Cholan) or xib’alb’a “underworld, underworld lord” (Yucatec). It is an epithet for a major Maya deity who was both god of Venus and Lord of the Underworld. In one case, it is used as a place name for the underworld.

  87. 87.

    Roger Moore

    June 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    @Cris (without an H):

    You’re not forbidden from swearing to God, you’re just supposed to be sincere and respectful about it.

    Exactly. A more contemporary and pertinent example would be, “I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help me God.” The Third Commandment is God saying that your immortal soul is in peril if you lie after making that kind of oath. It’s a sort of backup plan if the fear of prosecution for perjury doesn’t scare you- or maybe it’s the primary plan with perjury prosecution as the backup plan. In any case, the idea is that after swearing an oath to God to do something, you know that God himself will punish you if you back out.

  88. 88.

    Catsy

    June 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Count me in the camp that isn’t really incensed about the intemperance of what Halperin said–we need more of that directed at the appropriate parties. His real offense was that what he said was the same kind of hackery and bulshytt for which he’s always been inexplicably given a platform.

    But I’m willing to take it if it means having his toxic nonsense on the teevee less. He’s one of the most cancerous and malignant Villagers there is.

    @Shinobi:

    What I’m saying is that being a dick is sometimes a feature, not a bug.

    This applies to most online multiplayer games in general, not just LoL. It’s one of the reasons that–with very rare exceptions–I just don’t like multiplayer games and don’t buy games that obviously phoned in their single player campaign as an excuse to release the multiplayer portion.

  89. 89.

    hilts

    June 30, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    An earlier pearl of wisdom from Mark Halperin

    Media bias was more intense in the 2008 election than in any other national campaign in recent history, Time magazine’s Mark Halperin said Friday at the Politico/USC conference on the 2008 election.

    “It’s the most disgusting failure of people in our business since the Iraq war,” Halperin said at a panel of media analysts. “It was extreme bias, extreme pro-Obama coverage.”

    Halperin, who maintains Time’s political site “The Page,” cited two New York Times articles as examples of the divergent coverage of the two candidates.

    “The example that I use, at the end of the campaign, was the two profiles that The New York Times ran of the potential first ladies,” Halperin said. “The story about Cindy McCain was vicious. It looked for every negative thing they could find about her and it case her in an extraordinarily negative light. It didn’t talk about her work, for instance, as a mother for her children, and they cherry-picked every negative thing that’s ever been written about her.”

    The story about Michelle Obama, by contrast, was “like a front-page endorsement of what a great person Michelle Obama is,” according to Halperin.

    h/t http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15885.html

  90. 90.

    Rapoli

    June 30, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    the use of the word “dick” to explain the President’s behavior …

    “Dick,” he explained.

  91. 91.

    amk

    June 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    jeebus wept. What a way to misread the whole thingummy.

  92. 92.

    hilts

    June 30, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Reposted because of moderation purgatory with offending word removed

    Previous Mark Halperin diss of Obama

    HALPERIN [discussing John Edwards’ potential endorsement of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama]: “I can tell you, he’s really skeptical of her ability to be the kind of president he wants. But, he kinda thinks Obama is…he thinks Obama is kind of a p***y…He has real questions about Obama’s toughness, his readiness for the office.”

    h/t http://thephoenix.com/BLOGS/medialog/archive/2008/02/12/dubious-quote-of-the-day-halperin-on-edwards-on-obama.aspx

  93. 93.

    geg6

    June 30, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Like Sargent and Benen, and as he always seems to do, Fallows nails it:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/06/the-real-dickishness-problem/241288/

  94. 94.

    hilts

    June 30, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Reposted because of moderation purgatory with offending word removed

    Previous Mark Halperin apology for dissing Obama via John Edwards attribution

    “I’m sorry. In a live radio interview this week, I used a word I shouldn’t have. The fact that I was conveying other people’s words is no excuse for my lapse in judgment. It won’t happen again.” — Mark Halperin

    h/t http://mydd.com

  95. 95.

    trollhattan

    June 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    @ 7.Bulworth

    “Am I the only one who takes more offense at the blurted phrase “Oh my God” (by Joe Scarborough) than the use of the word “dick” to explain the President’s behavior?”
    __
    Yes.

    Bulworth nails it. As a friend who does actual lawyerin’ in actual courtrooms is fond of saying, “Asked and answered.”

    Malthaus likely really hurt herself contorting into that position. You can virtually see the soggy wheels turning as she tries to pivot into a defense of Halperin. And to what end?!? He doubtless was among those who waved away any criticism of Bush with, “You don’t criticize the president during a time of war.” And now, with two point five wars and the Bush Recession raging, it’s okie dokie? Did those those wars end in January 2009?

    She’s a sick, sick individual who has no business learnin’ anybody, for money or as a volunteer.

  96. 96.

    geg6

    June 30, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Just change the word “radio” to “cable news” and you have some idea what I think of shows like Morning Joe and pretty much anyone who appears on them:

    Radio Cable news is a sound salvation
    Radio Cable news is cleaning up the nation
    They say you better listen to the voice of reason
    But they don’t give you any choice ’cause they think that it’s treason
    So you had better do as you are told
    You better listen to the radio cable news

    http://youtu.be/izFsZvkemio

  97. 97.

    quannlace

    June 30, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    But calling people a dick. It’s rude, but actual dicks aren’t able to take offense…

    Should we ask Weiner?

  98. 98.

    double nickel

    June 30, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    @ Amanda #10: +1

  99. 99.

    Southern Beale

    June 30, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Speaking of Dicks, I just got a phone call from Dick Morris’ group. It started with a recorded message from Dick himself, calling Obama a “rigid liberal ideologue,” then putting in a plug for his forthcoming book, and finally asking me to hang on the line to take a survey since I’m a “top conservative leader in my area.”

    I decided to play along … and the first question they asked me was who my favorite conservative leader was. Oh I wish I had thought of something clever, Richard Nixon for creating the EPA or Barry Goldwater for supporting abortion choice or David Duke because he’d keep those brown people in their place! I wish I had my phone so I could record it and then I’d put it on my blog, their reactions.

    I wish I were a better person who could control her temper. I’m not. I let him have it. And like a chicken shit I hung up the phone.

    They got a wrong number, yup. And I supposed I could have turned it into something really awesome but I didn’t. Ah well.

  100. 100.

    geg6

    June 30, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    And of course, because I haven’t bashed Ms. Malthouse nearly as much in this thread as she deserves, I propose to make up for it by passing along these words of wisdom I once heard Tim Cavanaugh provide on the rock morning show I listen to here in the ‘Burgh:

    When you’ve had too much to drink
    there’s certain things to keep in mind.
    Like when you find your hand and underarms are bleeding
    your beer bottle might not have a twist off cap
    and don’t ever go home with a woman they call Moose
    or Vince
    And never bet that you can fit your head inside a glove compartment

    Get drunk with dignity
    Keep in mind that just because a bulldog licks your face
    its not necessary to lick him back
    Stay away from drinks with names like
    brain seizure or hippo laxative
    Get drunk with dignity

    If a bar has human ears nailed on the walls
    don’t pass out there
    and if your homemade jello has some goldfish in it
    you used the wrong bowl
    And there are phrases you must learn to avoid
    phrases like
    “that badge looks stupid”
    and
    “I can prove these shoes are fireproof”

    Get drunk with dignity
    try not to drool on bikers
    Don’t moon a nun
    unless you got a real good reason
    don’t get romantically involved with farm machinery
    Get drunk with dignity.

  101. 101.

    Bruce S

    June 30, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    I’m so clueless (or forgetful except on the subliminal level) I read this and thought, “FranziaPundit would be a great joke about Ann Althouse slurping her Special Sauce on Bloggingheads” The quote was so stupid I assumed it couldn’t be hers and that there really was a “FranziaPundit” who was an absurdly self-righteous religious fanatic. Or just very stupid.

    I guess that’s an example of catching your own fumble…or something.

  102. 102.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 30, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    same kind of hackery and bulshytt for which he’s always been inexplicably given a platform.

    Hardly inexplicable.

    America will not be free until the last Galtian-Ferengi overlord is strangled with the entrails of the last Villager.

  103. 103.

    Nethead Jay

    June 30, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    @geg6 Bwahahahaha, best lyric I’ve seen in a long time. Need to go look that one up.

  104. 104.

    Svensker

    June 30, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Um, isn’t this the person who thought onion rings were an obvious vaginal symbol?

    Was there ketchup involved?

  105. 105.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 30, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    The quote was so stupid I assumed it couldn’t be hers and that there really was a “FranziaPundit” who was an absurdly self-righteous religious fanatic. Or just very stupid.

    This was the sort of thing that Altmouse (http://altmouse.blogspot.com/) used to do quite frequently, back in the day, some four to five years ago. Alas, Altmouse got bored and moved on to other things.

  106. 106.

    Pierre

    June 30, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, BidsHit.com

  107. 107.

    Mike Kay (The Base)

    June 30, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Meh.

    I don’t think “dickgate” is a big deal.

    After all, the PUMAs and Firebaggers call the President worse things every ten minutes.

  108. 108.

    Jennifer

    June 30, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    Nope. “Taking the Lord’s name in vain” means, “do not, in your vanity, presume to speak for the Lord.”

    In other words, if God didn’t tell you xyz, you’re taking – using his name “in vain” if you say “God says that if you send me $100, you will be blessed,” or “God told me to run for president,” or “God said the world is gonna end on May 19.”

    Think about it – does some omnipotent, omniscent being give two shits if I say, “goddamn this hammer” or “god bless you?” Why should he? The Bible’s full of examples of people calling on God to smite, destroy, dismember, scatter, etc. the various enemies of the Israelites, who were like, EVERYONE THEY KNEW, in effect asking God to damn the whole lot – and not only did God NOT get pissed off about it, he quite often stepped in and rained down some righteous ass-kicking, can-o’-whoop-ass wrath upon the enemy du jour.

    Likewise, is he gonna get up in knots if you make an oath

    On the other hand, would he care if some asshat was out there saying, “God says you’ll be blessed if you send me your money?” Probably – because it makes him look really cheesy begging for cash on the teevee. When Michelle Bachmann says God told her to run for president, it makes him look like a lunatic. When crazy old dude predicts that God said the world would end on date xyz, it makes him look incompetent – and that is NOT the image you want to cultivate when your whole PR campaign is that you know it all and control it all.

    God’s got a reputation to uphold. That’s why he doesn’t want people taking his name “in vain;” e.g. for their own selfish purposes.

    You’d expect a professor to know something like this.

  109. 109.

    Martin

    June 30, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    After all, the PUMAs and Firebaggers call the President worse things every ten minutes.

    Really? On TV? And while holding press credentials? If Halperin loses those credentials, and loses his contacts over this, he’s worthless to MSNBC or Politico.

  110. 110.

    Jay in Oregon

    June 30, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Pierre @106 appears to be a spambot. They’re coming over the walls!

  111. 111.

    ComradeOlaf

    June 30, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    this feels a propos

    http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1590

  112. 112.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 30, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    We can’t use the name of a certain political-economic system on this political blog because it trips the spam filter, but Pierre can shit his bid shit on our windowshield

  113. 113.

    slag

    June 30, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Pierre @106 appears to be a spambot. They’re coming over the walls!

    The walls probably went the way of the Reply button.

  114. 114.

    LanceThruster

    June 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Mebbe he should have just said that the prez could go “Cheney” himself?

  115. 115.

    Mike Kay (The Base)

    June 30, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Really? On TV? And while holding press credentials?

    Yeah. Cenk has an entire hour show. hamsher is a cnn contributor. I don’t know whether or not they accredited press credentials, but I imagine they do simply because of the organizations they work for.

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