Have You No Shame, Bobo?
by John Cole| 92 Comments
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by John Cole| 92 Comments
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Sarah Proud and Tall
No, he does not because he is, and always will be, a dickhead.
General Stuck
I just can’t process the antics of these sociopaths today. I wonder if anyone else out there is as relieved as I, that we have dem in the WH, rather than crazy ass republican, and they are all crazy nowadays, and rowing in sync with taskmasters like Demint and Norquist barking out commands to the withered GOP pseudo souls in office, to stay in line or walk the wingnut plank of irrelevance.
murbella
Americans have no shame.
we have fucking eating contests while millions starve.
gross.
you have no shame either, Cole, or you wouldn’t have these libertarian asswhipes on your blogroll.
giltay
While I agree that he’s been complicit in the crazification of the Republican party, well … better late than never.
jwb
Prediction: Bobo’s conversion won’t last through next weekend.
Constance
Well, it’s all so freaking cozy in DC–occasionally I read an article, probably in the Washington Monthly, about who the press has dinner with, or plays handball with and I wonder what journalism class they learned that from. And that damned dinner, what is it, the White House press corp dinner or some damned thing? Please. And people sneered at Amy Goodman when she and her co-worker attended but stood against the wall instead of eating dinner with the elite press corp, then refused the award.
Won’t it be fun telling everyone “We told you so” in 20 or 30 years when Grover and friends have driven the country back to the level of Afghanistan in the countryside–no roads, no medical, very little food and no government but local swat teams turned rogue. Can’t wait.
The Fat Kate Middleton
Driftglass’s response is a thing of beauty.
ira-NY
When someone finally comes around to your position, when you are in the midst of battle, it seems that rather than mocking him, you should deploy him in the fight.
We should use Brook’s column to assail our political opponents. At this point we can’t afford the luxury of
mockery.
taylormattd
The photoshop (or whatever it is) of Bobo at that site is just disgusting. Can you blockquote some of his post so folks don’t have to view that?
Frapalinger
I love Driftglass, not only for the obsessive and justified hatred of Bobo displayed on that sight, but also for calling out that clown Gregory from Beat The Press.
murbella
its just a reacharaound. watch, Bobo will be right back to ill1bertarianism is a sec. its a feint to disarm liberals.
mockery is just our tactical weapon. the demographic timer is our strategy.
FastEddie
Drifty is AWESOME, as usual. Put him on the short-list.
The Pale Scot
Drifts has an even better piece below this one
.
http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2011/07/voting-them-off-island.html
Counterfactual
Yeah, the Republican party has certainly been bonkers all the way back to Reagan. Remember how Reagan refused to even think about increasing taxes. Oh wait, he raised them substantially in 1982. But remember how Reagan responded to the terrorist attack in Lebanon by launching a full out war in the Middle East. Oh wait, he didn’t do that, instead he withdrew our troops from the region. But remember how he put ideological purity above common sense and wouldn’t negotiate with Gorbachev to end the cold war. Oh wait, he didn’t do that either. But at least remember how he would never negotiate with Democrats, perfering to use them as the evil boogymen. Oops, wait again, he actually negotiated effectively with them in getting tax reform done in 1986. But the Republican Congressmen of the time were certainly loonies, like Bob Dole and Bob Michaels and ummm … what where we trying to prove again?
Saying that the Republicans were as crazy in 1981 as 2011 is about as true as saying Paul Revere rang bells to warn the British or that the Founding Fathers all worked tirelessly until slavery was abolished. Let’s leave rewriting history to be comforting rather than true to the other side.
Frapalinger
taylormattd @ 9
Driftglass’ photo shops of bobo are priceless, if anything, John should post the picture. Bobo is one of the worst scumbags in print today, and when we consider the fact that Charles Krauthammer is still writing, that’s saying something. You see, Bobo comes off as a kinder, gentler conservative; more of a nerdy believer in tradition than an uber-racist imperialistic oligarch. But in reality, he’s the latter. That jerk was all gung-ho for the Iraq adventure, is all for the destruction of the middle and working classes, and is completely racist to boot. Take, for example, his op-ed in response to the Haitian earthquake in 2010. He went on and on and on about how crappy Haiti’s political system is compared to Barbados – a much smaller country where the British, who, though far from altruistic, provided the country with 130 years of relatively competent governance after ending slavery in the 1830’s. Haiti, on the other hand, had to fight the French, who were even worse colonial masters than the Brits, for their independence and then spend every cent they could on national defense because Unkkkle Sam wouldn’t recognize their country until the Civil War; furthermore, Haiti had to pay France a very large sum for recognition of its independence, became indebted to American and French banks, was taken over by the United States from 1915-1934, and had one corrupt dictator after another rule the country with support from the US since then. But as far as Mr. Brooks is concerned, those black people just can’t govern themselves. Now, he doesn’t put it just that way, but that’s the point he’s driving at. If the Haitians had been more obedient, like the slaves in Barbados, everything would have turned out honky dory. So, yeah, I’m totally with Driftglass’ photo shop of Bobo, as it captures the grotesque nature of that man’s deranged and viscous ideology.
Han's Solo
From the link:
Where was he seems to be the point of the link. I get that it is a rhetorical question, but I think I have an answer: He was at a series of fabulous cocktail parties and other miscellaneous retreats and resorts sucking down the finest food and wine available; all of which was paid for by wealthy right wing ideologues.
That was a rhetorical question, right?
The Moar You Know
Lotta whining about a hilariously doctored photo and people daring to say mean things about the Worst President Ever.
Keep it coming, guys, when they start to whine you’re doin’ it right.
arguingwithsignposts
@counterfactual
Grover fucking norquist formed americans for tax reform in 1985 at the request of ronaldus maximus, so i won’t cede your point. The republican party was just as crazy ( remember ed meese? James watt?)’ the crazy hadn’t yet been distilled to its essence yet.
Linda Featheringill
taylormattd #9
I agree. I also found Driftglass to be slightly less than sane, with a reaction that seems to be way over the top.
You may enjoy it if you wish. I think that something about this extreme hatred of Brooks isn’t quite Kosher.
murbella
Why, yes, Linda, its just like my extreme hatred of freddie, edk, yglesias, and all the ill1bertarian fuckwad posse.
i totally understand why useful idiots like you and Cole wanna hold hands (or watever appendage you are holding) in a kumbayah circle jerk with those assclowns, and find passionate revulsion icky.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
To be fair to Bobo, I thought his column (“Oh noes! Where did all these crazy people come from? Quick, hide the family silver!”) scanned better in the original German.
Frapalinger
Counterfactual @ 14
Ronald Reagan kicked off his 1980 presidential bid in the same county in Mississippi where 3 civil rights workers were murdered and told the crowd there that black women were wearing fur coats and driving Cadillacs that they had bought with welfare checks. ‘Nuff said.
Linda Featheringill
murbella #20
Thank you for sharing that with me. Have a nice day.
phx
This kind of extreme hatred of Brooks is perfectly complementary to the hatred that some hard-core commenters show to the President or to Biden on the right-wing blogs. It’s a little frightening to see people that obsessed over personalities rather than issues.
That kind of hatred is definitely not liberal.
Joey Maloney
They were talking just as crazy. It took another couple of decades before they started believing their own bullshit, but 1980 was when they started mainlining their poison into the body politic.
Jerry Falwell? The Moral Majority ring a bell? I used to have a Fetus Feet lapel pin. The MM gave away millions of the things.
arguingwithsignposts
@phx – WTF is up with all this “both sides do it” kumbaya shit this a.m. Brooks has been enabling Republican insanity all along. But because he wears round glasses and uses words like “Burkean bells,” he’s somehow exempt from scorn?
I despise Republican politicians, but, IMHO, people like Brooks, Norquist, and others who have held no public office and therefore have no accountability for their disastrous policy nostrums deserve a higher level of scorn.
nancydarling
I find Driftglass’ photoshop spot on. The current GOP as created by Reagan, Norquist, etal and enabled by Brooks and his ilk, has become Frankenstein’s monster minus the humanity of the fictional character. Using Brooks’ face to illustrate the monstrousness of what they are and what they do is appropriate.
Woodrowfan
While there was certainly a lot of crazy in the repub party by 1981, it hadn’t taken over yet.
Jewish Steel
Your hatred is insufficiently liberal. Please try again.
phx
Hysteria, pitchforks, tossing reason overboard to make room for fear and anger…yeah, both sides do it. It’s on display here from several commenters. If you’d like to see where it’s on display in the right-wing blogs just ask, I’ll show you.
But feel free to say “I LIKE it like that.” People from both sides really do.
p.a.
re: crazification factor 1981 v. 2011. the followers were always racists and nuts (remember ‘we’re doomed because we’re giving away the Panama Canal’?). but the ‘big money boyz’ (h/t digby?) still felt at the time that a viable middle class was needed to support the struggle against the Soviet Union. with the cccp gone and an increasingly high tech and now robotized military, well, a large middle class isn’t needed as a bulwark against anything. There’s no struggle for the (ahem) soul of the party between mainline conservatives and wingnuts, because there are no mainline conservatives (Ike-Rockefeller types) left; Brooks et. al. are as Driftglass points out, frauds. They just want to continue getting their dinner party invites.
Jewish Steel
BooMan has a good take on the shitheel in question:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/7/5/10412/23778
Plus K-thug twists the knife:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/not-a-normal-party/
murbella
@feathergill
you also, useful idiot. ;)
why don’t you join the ill1bertarian circle jerk over at the LoOG if you find the truth too rough?
asswipe pundits like Krauthammer, Brooks, Douthat, Freddie, EDK, Yglesias KNOW BETTER. That is why they are worse than the poor ignorant bubbas and teabaggers that keep their side in power.
taylormattd
Frapalinger @ 15
Wow, but for your litany of Bobo’s acts, I would have had no idea he was an evil douchebag hypocrite.
Thank you so much for educating the stupid masses around here.
As a result of this totally new information, I now find to be perfectly appropriate that gruesome, bloody, frankensteinesque, ripped-from-a-horror-movie mashup of Bobo’s face.
murbella
@phx
you are a useful idiot too.
bend over because the ill1bertarians are going to ream america all over again if they get the chance.
lemme ax you– is Matt Taibbi a liberal?
im a liberal. i wanna gut those poseurs and set their hair on fire.
so i do my best when they show up here for the mistermix-dougj-Cole kumbayah circle jerk.
like i said to Reihan Salam when i made him cry, i dont wanna stop people blogging….i wanna stop people LYING.
and i’ve hung out with those fuckers. politesse just encourages them to spew more eumemes and bulshytt talk.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
You know what else was definitely not liberal? Sherman’s march to the sea, that’s what. It worked, but it sure as all hell was not liberal. Sometimes liberalism is not the answer. The hatred you are hearing is IMHO a justified response to the frustration of dealing with an right-wing opposition party that has gone all in on the concept of politics as civil war by other means and a Dem party that just can’t or won’t come to grips with what they are really up against and keeps taking a beating in part because our leaders are all George McClellans with nary a Grant or Sherman to be found.
Linda Featheringill
phx #24
Nor is it constructive.
Question to the folks who are dancing with this kind of hatred: Can you walk away from it if you wanted to? Do you own it or does it own you?
arguingwithsignposts
When they get their boots off our necks, I’ll get back to you on that.
Jewish Steel
Hatred is good enough for my man, it’s good enough for me.
ETA: Now, Too!
srv
Question for the NYT’s editors: If Bobo himself now publicly admits he represents no one but his imaginary self, why waste the ink?
Catsy
Damn. I think I need a cigarette after that shredding.
Also, seems obvious to me but others may not yet have twigged: murbella = Ghanima Atreides = matoko_chan. I guess “useful idiot” is the new “cudlip”.
arguingwithsignposts
All I see is “REDACTED.” rubella better be careful. she’s horning in on Derf’s troll schtick.
murbella
@catsy
dont put words in my mouth fuckwad.
i say what i mean. i mean useful idiots. Cole, DougJ, and mistermix and the significant percentage of the juicers that got spoofed by the EDK fakeconversion reality show are USEFUL IDIOTS for that chatroulette c1rcle jerk that is “libertarians” in the US.
and you forget my one attempt to be charming– Hermione Granger-Weasley.
what a failbot she was.
gogol's wife
I’m not fond of the picture either, but the analysis looks correct to me. Reagan wasn’t as crazy as present-day Republicans, but he laid the theoretical foundation for what we see today. I lived through him. The analysis makes perfect sense, and I don’t see it as hate-filled.
murbella
@catsy
don’t put words in my mouth, asshat
i always say what i mean, and i meant useful idiots…like Cole, DougJ, mistermix (AND AWS) and the significant percentage of juicers that got rolled by the EDK Fakeconversion Reality Show, and now are useful idiots for the ill1bertarian assclown posse– which includes Brooks, Douthat, all the LoOGies, Balko, deBoer, Yglesias, etc. etc.
And you left out my lone attempt to be charming– Hermione Granger-Weasley.
what a failbot she was.
Peter
Catsy:
I got that vibe too, but I was going to wait until she dropped a ‘wallah’ to declare so conclusively.
giltay
Jewish Steel: Krugman wins the thread.
arguingwithsignposts
Not even stopping at Reagan. Look at how many of these vile fucks were spawned from Nixon’s White House – Cheney, Rehnquist, Buchanan. Hell, Norquist worked on his ’68 campaign. I think Reagan was just the public face for something that had been brewing well before that.
Ordovician Bighorn Dolomite (formerly rarely seen poster Fe E)
@ murbella 44
Didn’t Ghanima start out as at least neutral if not charming? I had a bit of fun with pushing your “hipster” buttons for awhile, RE: The Flobots.
To clarify your stance–do you consider the ACLU to be a pure strain of libertarianism just the same as objectivists, or are they a completely different animal?
chopper
@Catsy:
the pie filter is nice. although you could change it so that every one of chan’s posts reverts to “everyone is an asshole and a libertarian!! i have a theory!” and still get the essence of most every thread here.
arguingwithsignposts
Ghanima was a reboot after m_c’s EDK hatefest flamed out and she got banned. But the meds weren’t strong enough, apparently.
@chopper – sad, but true.
murbella
and im fine with dancing with hatred.
like my shayyk jalal-ad-dhin rumi said–
i want to dance in the middle of the fighting.
dancing with hatred is fine.
Anyways, why shouldn’t we hate those dishonest slimy fuckers?
NobodySpecial
Are you really fucking whining about the picture?
Really?
Is there ANYPLACE you’ll actually get mad at some of these thieves, knaves, and murderous syncophants and let them know how you feel? Or do you just sit there and feel terrible that they made someone feel negative emotions?
They’re a fucking cancer on society and they’re choking it’s ability to breathe. If you aren’t pissed, you’re not paying enough attention.
murbella
/yawn
Ghani was neutral, an imago state. She was either going to evolve into murbella or darwi odrade, depending if she became more evil or more good.
You juicers completely don’t understand why Cole banned me the first time.
it was because i said “appalling” things about missionaries back on the Evil Poor Black Somali Muslim Pirates kill Noble Rich White American Christian Missionaries thread. the second time time he did it to protect that pansy-ass edk.
no, that was Hermione. i got bored of her…so goodygoody, so insipid.
my next evolution will be Samara Morgan or the Morrigan i expect for teh mega-eevul…or quellcrist falconer if i chose the Light.
i seem to be getting darker.
i always announce these changes…..but if you have me pied you will miss it.
murbella
now that was excellent.
murbella
but im not a hipster. im a revolutionary.
do hipsters march? jamais de ma vie
NWBCW.
murbella
oops better link.
but hipsters dont march. they are too languid and diffident…its not deck.
murbella
@AWS
you and chopper were big edkfanboiz.
that is why you doan liek meh.
;)
arguingwithsignposts
@rubella – I’m almost tempted to take you out of the pie filter to look at your insane ramblings over the last four comments – almost being the key word.
chopper
yeah, you got me. i love your arch-nemesis EDK, since i think you’re a fucking retard.
murbella
define “a pure strain of libertarianism”. on observation in America, all we seem to have here is ill1bertarians.
Here is their philosophy, curtesy Dr. Manzi.
The Paradox of Libertarianism.
arguingwithsignposts
@chopper – welcome to the cudlip/useful idiot club.
murbella
@chopper
where we met, in EDK’s Free Market Fantasy Forest.
i do like Dessert.
et tu AWS?
do i have to humiliate you with the “Our EDK is learning” link?
NobodySpecial
Matoko, last thing I want is praise from some simpering wannabe hopped-up excuse for a Mensa member. Die in a fire.
murbella
@chopper
hes not my arch-nemesis. i think Yglesias is my arch-nemesis.
murbella
@nobody special
im not a MENSA member…..but i could be if i want. ;)
and i hardly simper.
scatological invective is more my style.
arguingwithsignposts
I’m bored, so, um, yeah.
The second time was because you were a fucking cyber-stalker, polluting every EDK thread with your noxious bullshit.
Um, bullshit. I was disturbed by your stalker behavior, but thought it was best to let the man speak without derailing every thread with your stalker behavior.
And if you troll LoOG, you know that I disapprove of his libertarian bullshit. But please, keep up with your delusions.
arguingwithsignposts
That’s a low bar.
bjacques
I thought drifty’s photoshop of Bobo was pretty good. Hard to look at, but good.
I’d rather have Brooks outside the tent pissing in. At least you know what he’s doing. As a potential ally, he’d be concern-trolling–inside the tent, pissing in–so much that you’d just want to kick his ass out of the tent again.
NobodySpecial
AWS:
Nah, that’s actually a pretty high bar. You DO realize how much of a self-absorbed pompous twit you have to be to actually flaunt that membership, right? Fortunately, Matoko here has her ego in all the wrong places, therefore she qualifies easily.
arguingwithsignposts
being that it’s mostly predicated on intelligence tests:
I consider it a low bar. YMMV. :)
NobodySpecial
AWS: I’m not talking about the ‘intelligence’ part.
I’m talking about the ‘being enough of an asshat to parade around membership in a group predicated on being smart that allows for variable testing.’
Personally, I’ve met retail clerks smarter than the Pattering One. But none of them are the kind of industrial-size stupid to go around announcing how SMART they are like her.
Tonal Crow
I expect Bobo is setting us up for yet another rerun of “Both Sides Do It”. But if that’s not so, and the GOP has lost even him, we may be seeing Peak Wingnut.
driftglass
The original P-shop is from this post.
http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2010/02/monster.html
I have a dozen or so that I use in rotation, and will sometimes make to-order as I see fit.
For contrast, here is a part one of a 4 part series using “A Rose for Emily” as a trope to deconstruct the awful, awful work of David Brooks from 4 years ago that still amuses me.
More lit’rary dontcha know.
http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2007/11/rose-for-bobo-part-1-of-4.html
If you liked my stuff, great. I appreciate it.
If you hated it, great. And when you pay my mortgage, remind me to pay attention to your opinion.
Yours in Christ
dg
murbella
@AWS
Our EDK is learning, which is WAAYYYY THE FUCK more than i can say for your happy ass.
sooooo…what did EDK learn?
You go to LoOG, show me something…how about this?
college degree good! unions bad!
have you no SHAME aws?
murbella
@dg
i luffed it. it captures him perfectly. a crude ideological mosaic of unjust anti-empirical libertarian and conservative “intellectualism”.
murbella
@ns
sorry i hurt your feefees by using so many BEEG WORDS, but i am neither a MENSA member or even a wannabe MENSA member, since as i pointed out, i could join if i wanted.
and again, i don’t simper.
chopper and aws doan liek meh because i drove their mancrush off BJ.
tant pis
Now i dont know why you don’t liek meh, but i suspect its not because of MENSA.
;)
arguingwithsignposts
I’m not sure if I’m in moderation, or what, but just because EDK is full of shit doesn’t mean you aren’t too, rubella. You are as much the cancer that is killing /bjuice/ as EDK.
murbella
@Tonal
there is no Peak Wingnut…there do not exist high enough orders of transinifity to describe it…but the Wingularity is Near.
murbella
@aws
hardly.
because EDK is GONE.
;)
arguingwithsignposts
@rubella, but you’re not. ;)
nancydarling
Driftglass, As I said earlier, the photoshop was spot on. I have been listening to your podcast with BlueGal for quite a while without hitting the PayPal button. All this pearl clutching at the “ickiness” of Bobo’s portrayal has finally motivated me to send you a check.
God speed to both you and BG in your upcoming marriage!
arguingwithsignposts
fuckin’ english – how do it work?
murbella
@aws
lol
its dubspeak, like dubstep, get it?
dem na liek me
sparky
to me, this is really more about signaling than anything else. this column is just a warning shot to the teaists, that’s all. Brooks has been an incidental GOP cheerleader because of the overlap between the GOP and the oligarchy, his true paymaster. now, he and the people he consorts with–again, the elite not the practical politician–determined some time ago that all this sideshow barking would be fine, if only because it distracted people from seeing the wealth transfers going on. after all, it’s not as if the GOP rabble would ever storm the gates of the elites.
but.
if the deficit game spirals out of control and the US does default, that can mean significant losses for the oligarchy. and that is the real no-no here. that’s why, till now, Brooks has continued to spew sophistries that could give cover to GOP mouthing. now, however, if the US bond market tanks, then there’s trouble for the people who buy horse farms for their daughters. that’s why the debt financing is the place Brooks redrew the sand lines. so you see, Brooks hasn’t changed at all–he’s just come home to his true master.
supposition as to what to watch for: if, after Obama does the usual cave-in, the teaists are still complaining, watch to see if they all suddenly become quiet on this point. if so, that means real power has spoken and told them to sit down and shut up.
murbella
nice blade there sparky. subtle yet venemous.
but i think Obama’s got this. either Brooks’ masters get enough sacrificial repubs to vote with Pelosi and raise the celiing, or Obama uses the 4th.
murbella
@aws
but i wasn’t. all i ever wanted was for EDK to engage with me and respond to my deconstructions of his bulshytt.
he always ran away.
now we have freddie, who also runs away.
MazeDancer
David Brooks entire payday and 100% of his invites to NYC dinner events consisted of being a “Republican”. The “Thinking Person’s Republican”. Lefties with advanced degrees and writing skills, easy to find. While, people willing to shill for the GOP with alleged thought behind that pomposity are not so many in number.
But the actual Republican Party rejected him long ago. Just Google search “David Brooks RINO”.
No matter how wacko the “conservatives”, Brooks could never, ever afford to actually tell the truth about them. He’d have no job. He needed some “Serious Republicans” so he could keep up the pretense there were some he was representing.
It’s pretty amazing he’s actually admitting his buttered side of the bread is over toasted crazy loafs. So his theory now he’s representing a POV that “needs to exist”?
So if he’s saying there are two kinds of Republicans, him and the wackies, does that mean there now have to be 3 panelists on every discussion for the media to maintain their false equvilancy: 1) Democrat 2) Formerly Real Republicans Like David Brooks 3) Currently Real Republican Nut Jobs?
Sasha
Basically, “I’m shocked — SHOCKED — at the dramatic realization that what was obvious to other people years ago.”
coldie
nice to see a Driftglass link John. Long time coming
pattonbt
Sparky @85 has most if it spot on.
There is also a second component; blame shifting.
Brooks knows who’s going to get blamed in this and he knows whose side he has been on (the side which will get the blame) – and Brooks can’t have this on his resume.
That is why driftglass’s point is so on target. Brooks is trying to wash his hands of his previous support of these lunatics and his enabling them along the way.
It’s the same sad story as with Iraq. Those who fervently supported the idea because their tribe was pushing it did everything in their power to absolve themselves of the shitbox it ended up being. Brooks is just trying to get ahead of the curve on this one.
He’ll be back fluffing the Oligarchs and “reasonable” Republican empty suits as soon as it is safe.
He has learned nothing.
jim
Bobo can’t afford shame.
David Brooks is the best-paid ugly whore on Earth, & he’s smart enough to know when to go with the flow – rest assured he’ll be back to shovelling the same tired old “Both Sides Do It” bullshit before long. It’s the only trick he has to turn.
ZOMG REAL LIBS DON’T HAET = the world would’ve been so much better off if only some evolved individual had been in Austria circa 1919 to give Corporal Hitler a few bong-hits, a hug & a puppy.
If hating people who despise democracy, science, progress & basic human rights is wrong, I don’t want to be right.
Reagan was more reasonable? The guy who happily palled around with the unreconstructed fascists in the WACL? Who said “I too am a Contra” & compared them to the Founding Fathers while they were bayonetting babies? Who said the main source of pollution is trees? THAT Reagan?
He wasn’t as full-bore berserker as the Teabaggers, true – but only because in the 1980s the GOP had only begun its shift to the extreme right & couldn’t yet mutate the terms of political discourse away from sanity completely.