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You are here: Home / There’s a New Sheriff In Town

There’s a New Sheriff In Town

by John Cole|  July 7, 201111:32 am| 121 Comments

This post is in: I Can't Believe We're Losing to These People, Teabagger Stupidity

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We now have a new frontrunner for the dumbest person in Washington:

Today, I introduced a unique bill that goes in a completely different direction than everything else we’ve been hearing out of Washington. It would force politicians to start practicing what they’ve been preaching by lowering the debt ceiling from $14.3 trillion back down to $13 trillion. Admittedly, this is not your run-of-the-mill kind of law, but it would make it imperative for Congress to think outside of the box and come up with ways to pay off a portion of our debt while drastically cutting back spending. Since 1996, the national debt has increased by an inexcusable $8.79 trillion. I firmly believe that this calls for emergency measures to reduce the debt.

I’m going to introduce legislation to make myself fifteen years younger. Prettier, too.

Every time I get pissed off at Obama for not doing what I want the way I want it when I want it, I remember who he is dealing with.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    July 7, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Rather than spend all of 2009 debating health reform, the Democrats should have just passed a law stating that “All Americans are hereby declared healthy.” Short and simple for the average voter to understand. This is why the GOP wins elections.

  2. 2.

    Han's Solo

    July 7, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Who could have guessed that the Dumbest Person in Washington would be a Republican from Georgia?

    Shocked, just shocked!

  3. 3.

    danimal

    July 7, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Please, God, let this come to a vote. It’s tea party catnip and absolutely insane on a scale that has not yet been approached. They won’t even realize until too late that huge swaths of current spending would have to be eliminated immediately. The Ryan budget is timid in comparison.

    Congrats, Rep. Broun, you’ve made Michele! (and Gohmert and King, and oh hell, there are a lot of them, aren’t there?) look sane. You are absolutely the stupidest of the stupid.

  4. 4.

    Gozer

    July 7, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Great idea!

    I think I’m just going to call the gov’t and tell them that instead of owing 80k in student loans I’m only going to pay back around 40k.

    Wish me luck!

  5. 5.

    nancydarling

    July 7, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Well John, this is the Georgia rep who, during the avian flu scare of a year or two ago, advised us to wash our hands and stop picking our noses. I heard him on CSPAN. Whaddaya expect? Oh, he’s an MD also,too.

  6. 6.

    Jamie

    July 7, 2011 at 11:44 am

    wow, that’s impressively stupid.

  7. 7.

    Brian R.

    July 7, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Move over, Mississippi. Georgia is coming through.

  8. 8.

    Sloegin

    July 7, 2011 at 11:45 am

    It’s bizarre that all of the ‘out of control spending’ talk and people wagging fingers at charts blithely ignore the fact that we have wars ongoing. Wars historically have a habit of bankrupting countries that wage them.

    Worse, they never get called out on it.

  9. 9.

    Comrade Dread

    July 7, 2011 at 11:45 am

    How about we just pass a bill that says “What debt, suckers?” while we’re at it.

  10. 10.

    stuckinred

    July 7, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Not only is this moron from Georgia, he’s from my district in Athens. They gerrymandered the district to totally dilute the democratic vote here. Dennis G’s former rag, the Flagpole, has a section devoted just to him.

  11. 11.

    Poopyman

    July 7, 2011 at 11:46 am

    I’m sure Rand Paul is working hard to regain the crown even as we speak. My money is still on ol’ Randy. Go Paul!

  12. 12.

    TooManyJens

    July 7, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Of course, the NRO commenters think that’s an awesome idea.

  13. 13.

    Brian R.

    July 7, 2011 at 11:47 am

    It’s bizarre that all of the ‘out of control spending’ talk and people wagging fingers at charts blithely ignore the fact that we have wars ongoing.

    Wars that their party pushed. Wars that their party refused to pay for through new sources of revenue, and instead placed on the national credit card.

    Their party was the first in history to cut taxes during a war, too.

    And their party pushed through the biggest entitlement program since the Great Society in Medicare Part D, also with no way to pay for it, other than adding to the national debt.

    And when you ask them who’s to blame for the current debt? Not them. Not them at all.

  14. 14.

    Jay in Oregon

    July 7, 2011 at 11:48 am

    WTF does he think “thinking outside of the box” is going to accomplish?

    If you have a deficit, there are two ways to eliminate it; take in more money, or spend less money. If there’s a third way to balance things, I’d love to hear it.

    And given that the teabaggers would rather flense themselves with a rusty cheesegrater than make rich people pay a oenny more in taxes or tackle the major boondoggles in spending, he can just shut his piehole.

  15. 15.

    Martin

    July 7, 2011 at 11:48 am

    So, with $2.16T in tax revenue, he wants to use $1.3T to reduce the debt, and because we can’t default, another $450B in debt service on the rest. That leaves just about $400B to do everything from pave roads to run the military.

    No problem. Where’s the budget to go along with that plan?

  16. 16.

    Han's Solo

    July 7, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Stupid for Teabaggers is like the Force for Jedi’s.

    “The stupid is strong with this one”

  17. 17.

    Montysano

    July 7, 2011 at 11:49 am

    We now have a new frontrunner for the dumbest person in Washington:

    Louie Goehmert won’t go down without a fight.

  18. 18.

    Southern Beale

    July 7, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Well, this bill struck me as rather dumb. It’s Sen. Jim DeMint’s “Retirement Freedom Act” (God I love how the GOPers have to put the word “freedom” in everything).

    It’s really wonderful because it

    gives seniors the ability to voluntarily opt-out of Medicare while still collecting Social Security payments. Cosponsors of the bill include U.S. Senators Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), James Risch (R-Idaho), Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), Pat Toomey (R-Penn.), and David Vitter (R-La.).

    It basically decouples Social Security and Medicare Part A, allowing seniors to opt out of Medicare while staying in SS. And if you opt out of Medicare you can opt back in without penalty.

    I’m trying to figure out how this could possibly work and who would even want to participate. They’re short on the details, but do you get refunded the money you put in all your working life? And then as soon as times get tough and private insurance decides NO they won’t pay for your cancer treatment you can decide, woopsies I want back in! My bad? I mean, can we all get that deal? How is that fiscally sound? It sounds like a plan to break Medicare.

    I don’t get it.

  19. 19.

    nancydarling

    July 7, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Stuck @10, I would feel some pity for you except my guy is the one who wanted to take away funding for the Prez’s teleprompter as a step in reducing spending. Dipshits abound.

  20. 20.

    Wes

    July 7, 2011 at 11:50 am

    You know what? I wish it did pass. It’d be championed, passed by the House and Senate… and then, when it gets to the White House. Veto’d with the statement saying “The 14th Amendment says ‘Screw You.” Then, it magically somehow gets passed by 2/3rds override. The Obama says “I warned you.” He pulls out the 14th Amendment card.

    At the end of my dumbass dream, Paul Broun gets to become the first tea partier nut-punched by the US Constitution.

    Sadly, I can only instead dream that a crazy person nut-punches him literally.

  21. 21.

    Brian R.

    July 7, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Remember, this is the same douchebag who was asked at a town hall meeting, “So, who’s going to shoot Obama?” and responded with a big ol’ belly-laugh.

    He’s an idiot, and he’s an asshole. No wonder the NRO comments love him.

  22. 22.

    arguingwithsignposts

    July 7, 2011 at 11:51 am

    I’m sure Louie Gohmert, Virginia Fox, one of the Pauls or James Inhofe (to name just a handful of the candidates vying for the position Stupidest Person in Washington) will be along any minute to take the lead.

  23. 23.

    Montysano

    July 7, 2011 at 11:52 am

    @Southern Beale:

    They’re short on the details

    No, those are the details.

  24. 24.

    Caz

    July 7, 2011 at 11:53 am

    What’s so dumb about that?? The only position that is dumb is to think that the govt is unable to find enough spending to cut to balance the budget. It’s not that they can’t – it’s that they won’t.

    Lowering the debt ceiling is a great idea. But I’d settle for just keeping it where it is. Either way, it will force the govt to rein in its spending which is completely out of control.

  25. 25.

    Han's Solo

    July 7, 2011 at 11:55 am

    What are the chances that the GOP wants the US to default so they can get rid of the social safety net?

    They’ve pushed “Starve the Beast” for decades. There was only one place “Starve the Beast” could lead, and it was default of one sort or another.

    Now they are making their final push towards breaking this country so that they can rebuild it into a Galtian paradise.

  26. 26.

    Joy

    July 7, 2011 at 11:55 am

    I like that idea. I want to introduce legislation to make me prettier and younger too. I also want to know as much now as I did when I was younger so that when I get younger, I’ll be smarter. Now I’m really starting to sound like that guy!

  27. 27.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 7, 2011 at 11:56 am

    But did you read the comments?

    Wow. They sound like BJ regulars and really dissing the honorable Mr. Brown.

    Really. It’s worth the effort to go to that link for the comments.

  28. 28.

    Southern Beale

    July 7, 2011 at 11:57 am

    BREAKING:

    Murdoch’s News Of The World has been shuttered, Sunday’s paper will be its last.

  29. 29.

    Woodrowfan

    July 7, 2011 at 11:57 am

    DNFTT

  30. 30.

    srv

    July 7, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Mitt needs to go on the tube and say he’ll “double deficit reduction”

  31. 31.

    piratedan

    July 7, 2011 at 11:58 am

    well if its government spending that has to be reduced, I’d like to go ahead and nominate all of these “deficit hawks” get behind a dramatic withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, stop spending on wars, muster out all of those “vets” onto the streets (after all, most of ’em are national guardsmen anyways, they can just go back to their imaginary jobs that are being held open for them, right?) and stop paying them all that money that is bankrupting us. Then we can bring military spending in line with 1933 levels and save our way of life ;-)

  32. 32.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 7, 2011 at 11:58 am

    joy #26

    I like that idea. I want to introduce legislation to make me prettier and younger too.

    Can I add my name to your wonderful new legislation?

  33. 33.

    danimal

    July 7, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Caz–this debt limit change would require an immediate 1.3 trillion dollar surplus right now. Propose a budget with an immediate 1.3 trillion dollar surplus and we’ll talk.

  34. 34.

    LankyLoo

    July 7, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    This bill sounds great! I can’t wait to see how it produces synergies with our big banks. This will right size our debt!

  35. 35.

    arguingwithsignposts

    July 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    @Southern Beale: And Brooks and the Murdochs wipe their hands of the mess. Loverly.

  36. 36.

    Brian R.

    July 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Lowering the debt ceiling is a great idea. But I’d settle for just keeping it where it is. Either way, it will force the govt to rein in its spending which is completely out of control.

    No, it won’t. We’ve already spent the money here, it’s gone.

    Your statement above is like saying now that we’ve eaten a five-course dinner and gotten the check for $200, we should either pay only $150 or lower it even more to $100. Because either way, it will force us to eat less than we just did.

  37. 37.

    OzoneR

    July 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    The only position that is dumb is to think that the govt is unable to find enough spending to cut to balance the budget. It’s not that they can’t – it’s that they won’t.

    No, they won’t, because that would require we hurt good hardworking people, but you couldn’t care less about them, we know.

  38. 38.

    JPL

    July 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Southern Beale –
    Murdoch is trying to save the Sky Broadcasting deal..that is all.

  39. 39.

    Zifnab

    July 7, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Oh good. I can finally rest assured that taxes I’m paying into the Social Security trust and Medicare trust aren’t going to those frilly little entitlements, and are instead going to that massive war debt we racked up under Bush Jr.

    I was really worried for a little while that some of my tax money might go towards something I support. *Phew*

  40. 40.

    Cain

    July 7, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Since 1995? Fuck you assholes.. there was no debt after Clinton left. .you assholes. So basically, Clinton is to blame too for the debt. Piece of shit..

  41. 41.

    Southern Beale

    July 7, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    @JPL:

    I know but didn’t Cameron (or someone big over there) already assure him that the BSkyB deal would go through?

    Anyway, I hope this isn’t the end of the story because there are a lot of questions over here in the U.S. too.

  42. 42.

    scav

    July 7, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    That was an implosion. I think I’ll stay tuned.

  43. 43.

    Montysano

    July 7, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    @Caz:

    Either way, it will force the govt to rein in its spending which is completely out of control.

    Like the similar trope that “The size of government has exploded”, “spending is out of control” is easily disproved by a quick Google search for “spending as a percentage of GDP”. Thanks for playing, though.

  44. 44.

    kd bart

    July 7, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Why don’t we just post an ad in the international papers stating that we are not responsible for any debts incurred between the years 1996-2011.

  45. 45.

    trollhattan

    July 7, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    @24.Caz

    Either way, it will force the govt to rein in its spending which is completely out of control a Republican accomplishment.

    Fxt

  46. 46.

    Poopyman

    July 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    @Jay in Oregon:

    If you have a deficit, there are two ways to eliminate it; take in more money, or spend less money. If there’s a third way to balance things, I’d love to hear it.

    Chapter 11, Mofo. Chapter 11.

  47. 47.

    kdaug

    July 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Wars historically have a habit of bankrupting countries that wage them.

    What’s that quote about Afghanistan? Something about graveyards and empires?

  48. 48.

    JPL

    July 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Southern Belle, Cameron came out in support of the sky deal but it still has to be approved. The last week the committee received over 100,000 notes from the public wanting the deal to be blocked..
    He’ll open another paper and get the tv station.. The only coverage here has been from the nytimes and now that will die down.
    Call me a cynic.

  49. 49.

    Halteclere

    July 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I love the new “We are like Greece” meme. K-Thug has a post about how completely wrong this is. But it sounds scary to people who have no concept of what the Greece situation is like beyond TV scenes of riots and huge debts.

  50. 50.

    Ripley

    July 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    That’s a Very Serious Bill. Very…

  51. 51.

    daveNYC

    July 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Well John, this is the Georgia rep who, during the avian flu scare of a year or two ago, advised us to wash our hands and stop picking our noses. I heard him on CSPAN. Whaddaya expect? Oh, he’s an MD also,too.

    To be fair, that is good advice.

    Lowering the debt ceiling is a great idea. But I’d settle for just keeping it where it is.

    You don’t seem to be grasping the difference between the two actions. Lowering the debt limit would force spending equal to whatever the limit was lowered by in order to retire the now illegal quantity of debt. That would be in addition to any actual goods and services that the government would otherwise want to spend money on.

  52. 52.

    El Cid

    July 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    US debt should be illegal. Under Democrats at the very least.

    In addition, any form of taxation should be made un-Constitutional.

    We all have to tighten our belts because of all the government spending.

    We need to get back to the days of responsibility when you lived on your own patch of land on a mountainside and took care of all your needs on your own.

  53. 53.

    me

    July 7, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    @Southern Beale: …and nothing of value was lost.

  54. 54.

    WyldPirate

    July 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    The NY Times just posted a new article article on Obama’s latest episode of “bend-over-and grab-his-ankles” negotiating tactics with the Rethugs;

    White House officials acknowledge the unrest among Democrats. But they argue that Democrats will be in stronger shape politically heading into November 2012 if they help enact a credible deficit reduction deal, allowing them to mount the argument that they protected Medicare from a much more drastic overhaul by Republicans.
    __
    In contrast, they say, failure to produce an agreement could bring unpredictable and unfavorable economic and political consequences.

    sounds exactly like what has been the standard modus operandi coming out of the WH since day one. No. fucking. spine. At. All.

  55. 55.

    Montysano

    July 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    @Cain:

    there was no debt after Clinton left

    Wrong. Clinton balanced the budget, i.e. there was no annual budget deficit that added to the national debt.

  56. 56.

    The Other Chuck

    July 7, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Maybe Obama should just take the wars off the books again the way Shrub did.

  57. 57.

    WyldPirate

    July 7, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    @Cain:
    Defict and debt are talking about two different things, moran. Get with the game.

    Clinton ran budget surpluses and had no budget deficit in the last couple of years. We still had all the debt that has accrued since the Jackson administration–the last time the US didn’t owe anyone any money.

  58. 58.

    Baud

    July 7, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    @WyldPirate

    Wow, a news article about anonymous White House officials stating that a deal is better than no deal. You’ve completely changed my mind about Obama. Where do I sign up for the revolution? Can I drive a tank?

  59. 59.

    Martin

    July 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    It basically decouples Social Security and Medicare Part A, allowing seniors to opt out of Medicare while staying in SS. And if you opt out of Medicare you can opt back in without penalty.

    This is a personal favor to Dick Armey, by the way.

    He sued to be able to opt out of Part A because his federal benefits as a former congressman are better. Of course, the federal benefits are structured to assume that once you hit 65 you’ll get dumped into Medicare – it’s how the feds keep their costs down a bit by knowing they won’t need to carry anyone >65 without getting that SS money dumped back into the pool.

    Dick Armey and the rest of the lot who want to pass this solely for their own personal benefit as they’ll be about the only people who benefit, can all go DIAF. And I mean that. This is not far removed from introducing “Dick Armey Should be Paid $1M per Year Because He’s Awesome” legislation.

  60. 60.

    scav

    July 7, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    NI are trying to shut down the NoTW part, sure, probably for the sake of Sky, but up to the very end they were trying to push harder on the police as equally guilty parties (and the govt, but less overtly) and those fires won’t be put out quite so easily so the general stick probably continues. NoTW’s advertising stream was looking pretty hosed too, which had to count for something. I’m not sure this puppy is under control: I’m still getting flashbacks of guys with squirt guns trying to control Fukushima.

  61. 61.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 7, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    @Baud: No, but you get to stand in front of one. We’ll never see you again, but damn, you’d be famous.

  62. 62.

    Comrade Dread

    July 7, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    sounds exactly like what has been the standard modus operandi coming out of the WH since day one. No. fucking. spine. At. All.

    Maybe I’m drinking the Kool-Aid here, but I’m starting to agree with Glennzilla.

    Maybe he’s not spineless, maybe he actually thinks it would be a good idea.

    Assuming of course, that you can trust a bunch of unnamed sources saying vague bullshit off the record.

  63. 63.

    Citizen_X

    July 7, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Brian R. @ 13, and Caz…anytime: Here, Kevin Drum puts up about as good a summation of how we got into this mess as I’ve seen anywhere:

    …my mind wanders over the past ten years. Republicans got the tax cuts they wanted. They got the financial deregulation they wanted. They got the wars they wanted. They got the unfunded spending increases they wanted. And the results were completely, unrelentingly disastrous. A decade of sluggish growth and near-zero wage increases. A massive housing bubble. Trillions of dollars in war spending and thousands of American lives lost. A financial collapse. A soaring long-term deficit. Sky-high unemployment. All on their watch and all due to policies they eagerly supported. And worse: ever since the predictable results of their recklessness came crashing down, they’ve rabidly and nearly unanimously opposed every single attempt to dig ourselves out of the hole they created for us.

  64. 64.

    Derf

    July 7, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    ADP non-farm payroll numbers today doubled analysts expectations. Where is the breathless headline from John Galt Cole? Just like he did when the last numbers came out worse than expected. Is this not enough evidence for all you lemmings?

    But no, that’s not bad news so why should a naive libertard like Cole care about that. No let’s focus on the latest feined pro left outrage over the latest pre-emptive strike on Obama over non-info about what hasn’t happened yet. Just like the last time.

    You are so predicable John Galt Cole. It’s getting boring being able to predict your horseshit day after day.

  65. 65.

    Martin

    July 7, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    @Comrade Dread:

    There’s no way these guys can write $2T or $4T legislation in 3 weeks, get it scored, and get it passed in two chambers. Impossible. Obama is making the game so big as to make it impossible. The only thing these guys actually need to do is pass one page of legislation raising the debt ceiling, and that’s all they’re going to do.

  66. 66.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 7, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Many trollish comments today (of both far left and right varieties). Isn’t this fun?

  67. 67.

    NonyNony

    July 7, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    @Southern Beale

    Feh.

    There are approximately 100 commercial staff at the News of the World, though it is understood none of these postions will go.

    Nobody’s getting fired. Nobody is being held accountable. This is a shuffling of the deck chairs to convince people that they’re sorry for being inhuman monsters, and if the folks in Britain let them get away with it it’ll be disgusting.

    And nobody’s being held accountable because it goes right to the top and everyone in the organization knows it. If the Murdoch clan starts to try to pin the blame on someone the finger pointing will begin and eventually all of the fingers will end up pointing at one of the Murdochs. They want to nip it in the bud before that happens.

  68. 68.

    WyldPirate

    July 7, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    @Baud:
    Seems to me that the WH is trying to put out a few brush fires. Given OCapitulator’s latest rhetoric and past history, he seems as if he has started the fires himself.

    Please feel free to give me the 11-dimensional chess version as to why this reporter made the comment up along with the other sourced comments, Baud. I enjoy watching you fools twist yourselves into knots with the tortured pretzel logic.

  69. 69.

    The Moar You Know

    July 7, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Since 1995? Fuck you assholes.. there was no debt after Clinton left. .you assholes. So basically, Clinton is to blame too for the debt. Piece of shit..

    Cain: Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but you’re wrong. Clinton did not ADD to the debt for his last two-three years in office. He came into office with a national debt of about 4 trillion dollars and left with slightly over 5 trillion in debt.

    Spectacular performance compared to his replacement, who took that 5 trillion and in the space of eight years, added more to it than every other administration combined, leaving Obama with a debt of about 11 trillion dollars.

  70. 70.

    IrishGirl

    July 7, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Good lord this Broun guy is an M.D.! I guess it goes to show you don’t have to have a logical brain to go to med school. Then again, he could have gone to the Oral Roberts School of Medicine where they do their dissertation on the efficacy of “laying on of hands”. Ugh…..so much dumb stupid it makes my brain hurt.

  71. 71.

    Hugh

    July 7, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Every time I get pissed off at Obama for not doing what I want the way I want it when I want it, I remember who he is dealing with.

    One problem is that it often doesn’t look like Obama knows who he is actually dealing with. The only way to respond to these lunatics and greedy, corrupt assholes as best as I can tell is to make them feel heat. Obama just doesn’t like to do that.

  72. 72.

    JPL

    July 7, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Derf -…How long before Cantor takes credit? He might even suggest that businesses want the republicans to default.

  73. 73.

    Han's Solo

    July 7, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    @Derf: Wow, you sound really upset.

    You do realize that there are many other sites you could spend time at? I’m not saying you should go away, but you don’t seem to be enjoying this place, so why do you come here?

    It’s getting boring being able to predict your horseshit day after day.

    Really? It sounds like you must think you have a better quality of horseshit, if so you should start your own blog. If you are as brilliant as you think, I’m sure you will have a huge following in no time.

  74. 74.

    WyldPirate

    July 7, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    @NonyNony:

    Nobody’s getting fired. Nobody is being held accountable. This is a shuffling of the deck chairs to convince people that they’re sorry for being inhuman monsters, and if the folks in Britain let them get away with it it’ll be disgusting.

    Damn,, change a couple of words and that sounds exactly like what happened with Wall St…or the Bush administration war crimes.

    Two systems of justice in America and America.

  75. 75.

    Citizen_X

    July 7, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    @Fred Derf:

    You are so predicable John Galt Cole. It’s getting boring being able to predict your horseshit day after day.

    It’s spelled P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N.

  76. 76.

    Matthew

    July 7, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    John –

    Honestly, is there anything that Obama could do in these so-called negotiations that would bring you to call him out for being history’s worst negotiator? What if he voluntarily places Social Security on the chopping block, as he seems eager to do? Would that then prove to you his worthlessness as far as economic plans go? Or would you and the rest of Obama’s Democrat cheerleaders continue to point hysterically at Michele Bachmann as proof that Obama is doing a heckuva job?

  77. 77.

    gnomedad

    July 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Derf just called Cole “predictable”. My sides are hurting.

  78. 78.

    Derf

    July 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    ADP non-farm payroll numbers today doubled analysts expectations. Where is the breathless headline from John Galt Cole? Just like he did when the last numbers came out worse than expected. Is this not enough evidence for all you lemmings that John Galt Cole is nothing but a Greenwald reading idiot?

    But no, that’s not bad news so why should a naive libertard like Cole care about that. No let’s focus on the latest feined pro left outrage over the latest pre-emptive strike on Obama over non-info about what hasn’t happened yet. Just like the last time.

    You are so predicable John Galt Cole. It’s getting boring being able to predict your horseshit day after day.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-07/u-s-stock-index-futures-extend-gains-after-adp-report-shows-jobs-growth.html

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-07/jobless-claims-in-u-s-decreased-more-than-forecast-last-week-to-418-000.html

  79. 79.

    Joel

    July 7, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    News of the World is done.

  80. 80.

    Baud

    July 7, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    @WyldPirate

    I have no logic to defend because I have no facts to apply any logic to – just rampant speculation of the type I’ve seen umpteen times before in the media and the blogs. I’m happy to admit I’m wrong about Obama when I have actual evidence that I’m wrong about Obama.

  81. 81.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik

    July 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    And yet, somehow, this is the kind of jerk we lose too all the fucking time, across the country. These are the kind of arguments that somehow we fucking lose too all the fucking time because they ‘make so much sense!’ to the rest of the country than anything actually fucking based in reality and simple fucking arithmetic. Somehow, we’re on the verge of it all actually really burning down, and yet us being saddled with the blame because obviously, it’s all the dirty fucking hippies’ fault that our godly Galtian GOP Gods couldn’t save us with their brilliant Personal Responsibility encouragements.

    God, fuck this all.

  82. 82.

    Citizen_X

    July 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Hugh @ 71:

    One problem is that it often doesn’t look like Obama knows who he is actually dealing with.

    Gene Lyons has a piece here suggesting that Obama still thinks of Republicans as the Republican guys he dealt with at Harvard Law, where all disagreements could be handled in a collegial manner, blah blah blah. That’s also part of the mythology of the U.S. Senate (canings by pro-slavery Senators aside), so he probably only had that misconception reinforced there.

  83. 83.

    me

    July 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    They’re just remaining it.

    5.31pm: As speculation turns to the space left by the News of the World, my colleague Chris Moran has spotted that the domain name thesunonsunday.co.uk was registered a mere two days ago.

  84. 84.

    Han's Solo

    July 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    @Derf: Here is a hint for you; if you are going to insult someone by calling them predictable you probably shouldn’t post the exact same comment twice. It makes you seem not only predictable, but also a tad slow.

  85. 85.

    trollhattan

    July 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    @70.IrishGirl

    Good lord this Broun guy is an M.D.! I guess it goes to show you don’t have to have a logical brain to go to med school. Then again, he could have gone to the Oral Roberts School of Medicine where they do their dissertation on the efficacy of “laying on of hands”. Ugh…..so much dumb stupid it makes my brain hurt.

    Maybe he “self-credentialed” like our senator-ophthalomologist? “Freedom!”

    http://theweek.com/article/index/204039/is-rand-paul-a-real-doctor

  86. 86.

    Citizen_X

    July 7, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Derf just called Cole “predictable”. My sides are hurting.

    No, he just called him “predicable,” twice. Which I’m hearing in a Daffy Duck voice: “You’re pre-dicable!”

  87. 87.

    arguingwithsignposts

    July 7, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    As to Broun being an MD, so is Coburn. And Bachmann is a lawyer. Idiocy is of no tribe or clique, to borrow a phrase.

  88. 88.

    aisce

    July 7, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    @ fred derf

    1. the adp is a made up private statistic and a shitty indicator of actual economic conditions. it’s neither reliable nor accurate month to month. you can’t wait 24 whole hours for the labor department?

    2. of course people will overreact to downside news rather than the truth: that we are not on the verge of a “double dip” recession. we are growing. we are growing slowly. and erratically. the economy is stagnant and below trend, but growing. hip hip hooray.

    3. “analyst expectations” aren’t worth the paper/pixels they’re printed on. beating them on the upside or missing them on the downside. it doesn’t matter, they’re always wrong and never in one direction. if the last three years haven’t demonstrated that, i don’t know what to tell you.

    4. yes, cole reads greenwald. cry about it.

    5. your crusade has as much a chance at succeeding as matoko’s. you two should hang out sometime, i think you’d have a lot to talk about.

  89. 89.

    TreeBeard

    July 7, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I have heard of wage-inflation spirals, but the Republicans are into a idiocy-rhetoric spiral.

    I feel like swimming across the Atlantic and cock-punching some of these stalwarts.

  90. 90.

    dj spellchecka

    July 7, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    if he’s gonna try and stick clinton with some of the debt he should start with 1992 rather than ’96, because the majority of the $1.1 trillion increase over bill’s eight years happened during the first administration, not the second.

    and what’s with pulling numbers out of a hat? why is a $13 trillion debt limit all that much better than $14 trillion?

    for that matter why was $10.6 [the figure at the end of bu$hco] not worth fretting over but $14.1 is the end of the world?

    iokiyar, natch

  91. 91.

    TreeBeard

    July 7, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    @aisce

    If Cole *does* post about the actual numbers due tomorrow, Mr. Derp will only show up (or crow on his Reason/WSJ/American Stinker forum) to say “Ha ha! He bowed to my threats!”

  92. 92.

    AAA Bonds

    July 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Sure! Let’s call it the “Burn It All Down Bill”

  93. 93.

    Suffern ACE

    July 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    @Citizen_X – I believe it enough to conclude that I will never vote for another Senator in a primary again. The experience is a negative…I might consider voting for a governor who was caught selling state secrets to the North Koreans before voting for a Senator of any sort in 2016.

  94. 94.

    nancydarling

    July 7, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Arguingwithsignposts @87, One can’t help but expect more from an MD, than one would from a congressman who used to moonlight as a rodeo clown—Rick Crawford of Arkansas. Yes, we send real clowns to congress here in The Natural State. Mr. Deficit-Hawk-Rodeo-Clown Crawford ranked 5th out of 94 freshman republicans in spending on his DC staff. Speculation here is that he has a big tanning salon bill cuz he’s as orange as Boner.

  95. 95.

    Lolis

    July 7, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    I like Derf. It is fun seeing someone whinge like a firebagger but be an Obot. The combination is new and startling. S/He is more entertaining than Wyld Pirate hands down.

  96. 96.

    Scratch

    July 7, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Paul Broun ought to have “I AM STUPID” tattooed across his forehead. That way, he would look less stupid than he does with this proposal.

  97. 97.

    Zandar

    July 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    D: We need to raise the debt ceiling.

    R: No. You’re communists and we want you to burn in hell.

    D: But the country will default.

    R: Fine.

    D: But this would destroy the economy.

    R: OK, but we want you to cut trillions in spending.

    D: Let me crunch the numbers. *tap tap tap* OK, we can do that by letting the Bush Tax Cuts expire and cutting some defense spending.

    R: No, you’re socialists and I want you to die from ebola. If you raise taxes we will destroy the country. Cut spending or else.

    D: That won’t actually reduce the national debt, in fact it’ll make it worse.

    R: You hate America. Cut spending or watch the country burn. Where are the jobs? I want more tax cuts.

    D: More tax cuts will make the debt worse and won’t create jobs.

    R: You’re avatars of all that is evil on earth. Give us tax cuts and spending cuts and we’ll destroy you.

    D: Don’t you mean “or” destroy us?

    R: Give us what we want or the country gets it.

    D: (Crunches more numbers) You know, this is a reasonable deal where we both make a compromise to reach middle ground.

    R: Intercourse your middle ground. Lower the debt limit and pass a balanced budget amendment and cut taxes and cut the social safety net or we destroy everything.

    D: You know, the 14th Amendment says…

    R: We’ll impeach you and then destroy the country. You have no choice. Give us everything we want or we get everything we want and we’ll rip your souls out and take a big steaming dump on them.

    D: I get the distinct impression you might be negotiating in bad faith.

    R: Even mentioning that proves you are racist scumbags. We’re leaving. Oh, and give us everything we want. *storms out*

    D: Well, this might be a problem.

  98. 98.

    AAA Bonds

    July 7, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    @aisce:

    your crusade has as much a chance at succeeding as matoko’s.

    uhhhhhhhhhh I’m pretty sure both of them have already succeeded over and over and your comment is proof??

  99. 99.

    Han's Solo

    July 7, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    @TreeBeard: Don’t bother, they are mostly dickless. Not only that, but they’ve polluted the Atlantic to the point where swimming in it could turn you into Godzilla.

  100. 100.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 7, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    @ Lolis: The novelty will fade and the idiocy will remain. WP can, and frequently does, offer interesting commentary; Fred/Derf, on the evidence seen thus far, cannot.

  101. 101.

    RalfW

    July 7, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    No shortage of morans in the comments at the Corner.

    My g*d these people have not the faintest idea how the economy works.

    “I have an idea!!! Lets default on $1.3 trillion of existing debt, and refuse to issue any new debt! Problem fixt!”

    And the public says “Woohoo! Bankruptcy and insolvency for all my friends!”

  102. 102.

    Brian

    July 7, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    We are sovereign in our own currency, ergo we are nothing like Greece. Paying our debt, to the extent it even makes sense, can be done by switching the debt from one account at the Fed to another. Done. Debt paid. Whether they are liars or ingorami (not a word, I know), the Washington pols (Obama included) are going to do permanent and profound damage to the economic well-being of this country with this austerity nonsense.

  103. 103.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik

    July 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    @RalfW #100:

    It’d be laughable if it didn’t feel like folks like that were literally the only group that gets their fucking voice heard in politics these days. Even when other groups scream as fucking loud as possible, it’s the ‘YAY!! BANKRUPTCY FOR EVERYONE! LETS DO WHAT WE CAN TO FUCK THE HIPPIES EVEN IF IT MEANS ECONOMIC COLLAPSE!!!” crowd that only gets the fucking megaphone.

  104. 104.

    Culture of Truth

    July 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Obama is scheduled to make a statement sometime after 1:00 p.m. Presumably it will cover what was served at lunch, and possibly whatever else got eated.

  105. 105.

    TreeBeard

    July 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    @Han’s Solo

    they’ve polluted the Atlantic to the point where swimming in it could turn you into Godzilla.

    Cool!

  106. 106.

    Monkey Business

    July 7, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    I’m loathe to call this the stupidest piece of legislation ever introduced in Congress, but it’s in the top five, right? At least the top ten.

  107. 107.

    JCT

    July 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    @trollhattan and @IrishGirl

    Don’t forget the old joke “What do you call the med student who graduated last in his class”? — Doctor.

    And self-certified Rand Paul? Well, that just speaks for itself.

  108. 108.

    Barb (formerly Gex)

    July 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Hmmm… 1996. Shortly after the GOP took the House back. They’re the fuckers who keep making the deficit bigger. They start unfunded wars, provide a prescription medication benefit specifically designed to be more costly than it need be, and refuse to raise revenues. They can just STFU.

  109. 109.

    Brachiator

    July 7, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    OT, A bit of cheer amid the budget gloom: Rupert Murdoch gets knocked down a peg:

    News International says it is shutting down the News of the World tabloid at the center of phone hacking scandal.
    __
    James Murdoch, who heads the newspaper’s European operations, says the 168-year-old newspaper will publish its last edition Sunday. The scandal has cost the paper prestige and advertisers.

    The rival Daily Mail is having all kinds of fun with this. “End of the World: James Murdoch announces phone hack scandal paper will shut down this Sunday,” and “The Paper that Died of Shame.”

  110. 110.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    July 7, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus #66:

    Many trollish comments today (of both far left and right varieties). Isn’t this fun?

    I blame Obama. He never should have signed into law that bill raising the troll ceiling. Our nation is drowning in out of control trolling.

  111. 111.

    Brachiator

    July 7, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    I blame Obama. He never should have signed into law that bill raising the troll ceiling. Our nation is drowning in out of control trolling.

    Very good.

    Everybody sing: Merrily we troll along, troll along, troll along.

  112. 112.

    gene108

    July 7, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Because your income tax liability is so small in comparison, did you thank a rich person today?

    Quote from another forum, I regularly post on.

    With thinking like this, there’s really now way you can win. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, et. al. have brainwashed a large chunk of the electorate to ignore reality and believe their lies.

    With voters like this, I don’t blame the GOP for being as nasty as they are. There’s nothing the GOP can do that will damage themselves with their base, in terms of giving tax breaks to the rich, making sure corporations are above the law, and gutting social programs.

  113. 113.

    Derf

    July 7, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    A reminder:

    Last month bad jobs report and our hero John Galt Cole was there to report it. Complete with Apocalyptic terms.
    https://balloon-juice.com/2011/06/01/double-dip-here-we-come/

    This month good jobs report and nothing but crickets from John Galt Cole. No, he would rather focus on the lastest feined outrage from the Pro lefties. Why? Because he is nothing but Greenwald reading, libertarian sympathizing concern troll.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-07/u-s-stock-index-futures-extend-gains-after-adp-report-shows-jobs-growth.html

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-07/jobless-claims-in-u-s-decreased-more-than-forecast-last-week-to-418-000.html

  114. 114.

    ruemara

    July 7, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Comrade Dread

    You must have missed the Ron Paul debt plan, which calls for the Fed to just say “what debt” to several trillion of it and shred it. & no, I’m not kidding.

  115. 115.

    daveNYC

    July 7, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    This month good jobs report and nothing but crickets from John Galt Cole.

    From Calculated Risk:

    Tomorrow the BLS will release the June Employment Situation Summary at 8:30 AM ET. Bloomberg is showing the consensus is for an increase of 110,000 payroll jobs in June, and for the unemployment rate to hold steady at 9.1%.

    You consider that to be a good jobs report?

  116. 116.

    gocart mozart

    July 7, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Why didn’t he just introduce legislation changing the word “deficit” to “surplus”? Shazaam! All our fiscal problems are solved. He’s not thinking out of the box enough IMHO. I think the TeaBags should primary his ass. Fuckin’ RINO!

  117. 117.

    gocart mozart

    July 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    You must have missed the Ron Paul debt plan, which calls for the Fed to just say “what debt” to several trillion of it and shred it. & no, I’m not kidding.

    Now that’s the kinda “out-of-the-box” thinking I’m talking about.

  118. 118.

    El Cid

    July 7, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    __

    Now that’s the kinda “out-of-the-box” thinking I’m talking about.

    In these trying times, someone has to be gutsy enough to think inside the rocks.

  119. 119.

    steve

    July 7, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    I am today announcing my new legislation increasing my Blowjobs From Jolene Blaylock Ceiling from zero to a billion skillion. Admittedly, this is not your run-of-the-mill kind of law,…

  120. 120.

    Alex

    July 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Is it actually possible for both parties to stop this nonsense and work towards a solution?! Take our polls later this week and tell us what you would do about the deficit. http://bit.ly/Votocracy

  121. 121.

    Alex

    July 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Is it actually possible for both parties to stop this nonsense and work towards a solution?! Take our polls later this week and tell us what you would do about the deficit. http://bit.ly/Votocracy

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