I think I have depressed myself enough to open a bottle of wine.
On the other hand, the fact that Patton Oswalt linked us is very cool. Because he’s FUCKING AWESOME. In fact, every time I listen to liner music on NPR I think of Oswalt.
*** Update ***
I know what we all need right about now:
I feel better already.
JPL
John, I posted this down below but it’s lucky you don’t live in Minnesota. Bars and distributors can’t renew their licenses. Miller’s cannot renew their license and will have to pull the remaining supply from the store shelves. For some odd reason they have 38 percent of the market.
hahahaha
Comrade Javamanphil
We win! But we lose! But we win by losing! USA!
Ron
If you’re depressed, don’t go to the wine. Get out something a bit stronger. I recommend some single malt.
The Dangerman
Do we need to have a Berlin style airlift to keep Minnesota in the brews? Are stores near that stateline in bordering states jacking up their prices?
Peter
I love Patton Oswalt. His Black Angus and Stella d’Oro bits are some of the best standup of all time.
I was just thinking that the widening rift in the GOP (blissfully coincident with the Murdoch implosion) is kind of Nixon’s Southern Strategy finally driving itself off a cliff. Republicans have gone all in on getting ignorant white people to vote against their own interests in the name of racial hatred for so long that the two agendas are now mutually destructive. It’s a real joy to watch.
Cat Lady
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords. Hope they bring the beer – I like TsingTao.
Nicole
Belated thank-you to those who voted for me in the “Search for Constance”- I won! And I know it was the ballon-juicers that put me over the top. You guys are the win.
PeakVT
Did MillerWingnuts donate the MN wingnuts significantly last fall? Serves them right if they did.
Mike Kay (Team America)
Obama raised $86,000,000 in the first quarter. 98% of the donations were less than $250 and 552,000 individuals made contributions.
I told you people who type on blogs and message boards weren’t the base.
Mr Stagger Lee
Well the Espys are on, can somebody tell me why is Lacrosse now is a major sport?
RossinDetroit
THOSE STUPID BASTARDS!!1!ELEBENTY
Wait. Who are we hollering at this time?
Mark S.
Has Mark Halperin declared that Eric Cantor has won the day yet?
Yutsano
Obligatory LILYPUPPEH!!
I am still at work, it’s slow, and I’m bored. Can I haz go home naow?
pragmatism
cantor is the conservatard equivalent of a kfc famous bowl–a failure pile in a sadness bowl. cantors hurt feelers are the gravy.
Narcissus
Why is that girl giving head to a vegetable?
Carolina Dave
Lily! Lily! Lily. Dog and wine therapy always work for me. Even as one party pledges to destroy the economy.
RossinDetroit
I liked how the AP’s article on the fake Democrats in Wis all losing called them “Fake Democrats”. And they pointed out that they were all Republicans running to bollix the Dem primary, and were funded by the GOP.
Maybe there’s hope for some corner of the MSM.
Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
PATTON OSWALT LINKED TO US?
This is more than reason enough to stop lurking and start commenting again.
Because y’all are cool, but dude. Patton Oswalt!
(Also, I was in a foreign land [Israel – don’t get me started on the new law. Or, if you want to, you can click on my name and get the low down BUT I WILL NOT THINK ABOUT IT NOW] and it’s summer vacation and there are work shennanies, and your whatnot. But hey! I’m back!)
OzoneR
Why the bully pulpit is pointless in one tweet
There’s always a hint of cynicism.
PaulW
I’m reading about the beer disappearing in Minnesota and I already know about how MillerCoors is destroying the microbrew/crafted beer industry in Wisconsin.
This is what happens when Republicans are in charge. They f-ck with your beer. You gonna let that happen, America?!
RISE UP! VOTE DEMOCRAT! SAVE THE BEER!
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Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
Wait, have we gone and lost the “reply” button while I’ve been lurking.
/kicks dirt, wanders off mumbling.
Litlebritdifrnt
Hell I am on my third glass of yellow tail as we speak. This shit deserves it. My boss who is the least politically savvy person on the planet (if it doesn’t involve golf he is not interested) was talking to a collegue today and said “these fuckers are willing to collapse the entire economy for the sake of political power” I was shocked that even he, with his minimal knowledge of the situation could see it clear as day.
Cat Lady – when I lived in Hong Kong (when it was still a British Colony and thereby landlocked) the rumor was that TsingTao was basically a chemically created beer (seeing as they had not the space to grow the ingredients for proper beer), it was 45 known poisons with their antidotes. All I know is that it was considered the best laxative on the planet, I stuck to Heineken and wine, lots and lots of wine.
PaulW
@Emily, yeah apparently the coding for Reply got et by WordPress. Sorry.
Just Some Fuckhead
Big Patton Oswalt fan here.
ETA: I’m sure he’s a big fuckhead fan.
RossinDetroit
I’m too lazy to HTML lying in bed this but here’s the link to the great AP story documenting the WI fake Dems’ collective Fail. It documents these pathetic vermin in some detail.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43734158/ns/politics/
General Stuck
Awwe! sweet Lily.
Elizabelle
That is one of the best dogs in the world.
Makes my day.
Almost as much as seeing the world turn: people (including our esteemed media) have seen how craven and reckless the Republicans are — and Rupert Murdoch is in a sh*tload of trouble that’s got him buying back his own stock.
Pool: how close are we to peak wingnut? What say ye, Balloon Juice?
piratedan
@Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther: if you use Firefox, there is a fix for this…. read earlier entries from MonkeyBoy over the last few days to get the protocol for the fix.
beltane
Crooked Timber has a nice piece about the fall of the Murdoch empire http://crookedtimber.org/2011/07/13/will-the-last-person-at-news-corp-please-turn-out-the-lights/
Does Peak Wingnut arrive with the bankruptcy of the United States? I honestly never knew I was capable of feeling this amount of hatred for these people. Words fail me.
Uncle Glenny
Cole, you keep this up and I’m going to have to (1) go out and adopt a pet (2) restock my vodka. Unfortunately I can’t do that until tomorrow.
I’ve got to extract some money from my trust first (involves remote communication with lawyer who thinks I’m small-fry and rip-off-able), though since I don’t know of my social security check is secure. (If “trust” sounds elitist, my father died 2 months ago, and left me what should be enough to get a bottom-of-the-line Subaru and next winter’s heating oil bills, the way things are going.)
MonkeyBoy
@Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther:
Here is an external fix for the invisible reply button. The rest of that thread contains a little more info about the problem. I still don’t know why the people with keys to the site just don’t fix it.
Violet
Lily! Sweetest dog evah! My stress drops a whole bunch just looking at her photos.
ExurbanMom
JPL and PaulW, I shall see your “no more beer in Minnesota,” and raise you “OMG they are taking the cigarettes, too”!
Just imagine: thousands of smokers and beer drinkers, descending on St. Paul screaming for their vice of choice. Thanks Republican lawmakers!!!!
Comrade Kevin
@Cat Lady: I’m pretty sure Tsing Tao is Chinese for “urine”.
TaMara (BHF)
I have to run to the library before it closes, but wanted to post this. Bad Horse has a friend who did a cool thing, especially if you’re into Lord of the Rings and think the GOP is possessed.
Freeing the GOP
And an obligatory….puppeeehhh! I’ll rub your belly Lily.
mr. whipple
Call any vegetable and the chances are good,
the vegetable will respond to you.
ExurbanMom
P.S.: I’m on my second glass of wine tonight. Watching the news tonight, it looks like there’s only one adult in D.C. Unvelievable.
Ash Can
Such a nice doggie!
Mark S.
Q:
and A:
ETA: Awwwww Lily! I didn’t notice the update til my comment reloaded the page.
Mark S.
I don’t know, in the first picture it looks like Lily is contemplating the implications of a debt default.
DCLaw1
Listening to NPR makes me crave a failure pile in a sadness bowl.
Bill Murray
yeah it’s the 2% of donors that gave about 55% of his money that are his base
jl
On the bright side, these people are nuts, and if they keep up with this stuff, and we can make to the next election…
If we can make it to the next election… the next e
election… There… there I see it now… on the horizon…
Look there, look there!
Bachmann: ‘If We Reject Israel, Then There Is A Curse That Comes Into Play’
Eric Kleefeld | February 9, 2010, 12:39PM
TPM
” if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play. And my husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel…”
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/bachmann-if-we-reject-israel-then-there-is-a-curse-that-comes-into-play.php
CaseyL
Love the Lily-pix. God, she’s adorable.
Can I come out to WV and sit with her a while?
My kitties are loving, but they just don’t do that “I Adore You and You Are the Source of All That is Good in Life” expression worth a damn.
More like “Your Offering [of Affection] Pleases Me” expressions (h/t LOLCat site).
General Stuck
First Hummingbird pic of the season. Very few have showed up thus far, which is strange, like everything else right now.
OzoneR
How the hell did you come up with that math?
jl
forgot to thank Cole for cute Lily pic. It is soothing.
The imperturbable saturnine implacable TunchGaze would be helpful too, soon.
It would give us mere mortals strength.
Comrade Kevin
@General Stuck: awesome photo. My camera’s broken, it won’t charge up, or turn on at all.
Mike Kay (Team America)
tell it to Raoul Wallenberg.
SST
Sweet that Patton Oswalt linked to BJ. ‘Here’s Jon Voight’s ballsac!’ is one of my all-time favorite punch lines.
Poopyman
I’ve been busy all day,so I’m just now scanning the day’s goodies. Down in “Of Course They’re Crazy” you write:
Well sure! But that’s just you (and me) being elite! That’s why back when the charge of being elite was popular I was so happy to agree, since it was the opportunity to point out how stupid they are. Crazy too, but I concentrated on the stupid.
So yeah, if anybody is still trying to pin the “elite” label on you, eagerly agree and ask them what exactly is so bad about not being stupid or uninformed?
General Stuck
Thanks! sorry about your kaput camera. I’d have a big sad if mine broke.
JCT
Lily puppeh for the win! Just like our Shadowy — but she saves those “pet me, love me” looks for my better half. I am just the interloper.
And Eric Cantor and his pack of morans are the epitome of FAIL.
Mike Kay (Team America)
can we stop talking about the debt ceiling and go back to bashing obama?
evinfuilt
Patton Oswalt!!! Star of my fav foodie movie ever. Cheers me up even when I agree with the road warrior reference (though no reason to trust Moody’s anymore.)
freelancer
@Ellaester
I been readin’ yer dispatches what you been scribblin. Keem ’em coming, and enjoy your summer, by all means.
cbear
I refuse to be impressed unless and until he posts a comment and is abused and insulted like the rest of us.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@OzoneR: Has Glenn been out of the country too long? Did he forget the McConnell is not the entire Republican Party? And then there’s the fact that McConnell has not universally surrendered yet.
Mark S.
I bought three games from the bargain bin at Gamestop (all three of them for $30): Alpha Protocol, Alone in the Dark, and Crackdown. Any suggestions for which one I should try first? Any strong feelings about any of them?
Ben Wolf
Over at Reason they’re discussing aging populations in poor countries, and how those governments don’t have the funds to care for their health. A representative comment:
I get a lot of flack for symapthizing with libertarians on a number of issues, and when I see things like this it makes me think I deserve it.
http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/13/peak-child
beltane
@jl
Michele Bachmann herself is the curse that has come into play. Perhaps she should convert to Judaism if she feels so strongly about this, because as it stands now, her beloved Yahweh would be all for smiting her for being an idol worshipping blasphemer. And lets not get started on what Yahweh would do to the not-gay Marcus Bachmann.
Mike Kay (Team America)
Is that why St. Ronnie laid a wreath to the waffen SS at Bitburg?
Little Boots
michelle bachmann is the bitch the keeps on giving. there is absolutely no way that she will win anything, but she will certainly entertain the rest of us for a long time to come. it will be wonderful.
Mike Kay (Team America)
someone should ask Bachmann do Jews get to go to heaven
mr. whipple
General Stuck: Well done!
Little Boots
ben, honestly, what did you think libertarians were about? integrity? the market? they’re not. they’re about being the biggest most selfish assholes since Ayn Rand. that is all. that is all it’s ever been about.
jeffreyw
You are getting sleepy…sleepy
asiangrrlMN
@Yutsy, are you still around?
Lily is adorable! You know what will make me feel better? Pics of Tunchie!
beltane
Mike, we all know perfectly well that the evangelicals think the SS were doing God’s work by murdering Jews so that Aryan-American Christians could have a real-life Israel to obsess over. In fact, they loved the first Holocaust so much that they pray for Redneck Jeebus to return and start another one.
MikeJ
@Mr Stagger Lee:
We have a pro team in Seattle. And American stylee football is the dumbest, dullest game on earth. Nice to give some other sports a shot.
Ash Can
@Ben Wolf: When that commenter reaches old age, he’ll insist upon receiving nothing but the best medical care, for even the most minor of his complaints, paid for by the government. Take it to the bank.
Little Boots
As I said.
SIA
Lily always looks like she’s just relishing her safe, comfortable existence with her saviour.
I’m reading on my new birthday present – iPad! It’s so cool! And so much easier than squinting at the phone! SiubhanDuinne, if you’re around, yes I want to know your ap recs!
different church-lady
Just remember: there’s no reason to ever spend more than six dollars on a bottle of wine. (I read that on the internet somewhere.)
Ben Wolf
@little boots
I keep hoping maybe we can find some kind of common ground and stop fighting long enough to focus on the people who are buying and selling our country right out from under us. I guess it’s time to accept the libertarian/right crowd are the nuts our Overlords stoke up the crazy in and send out to terrify liberals.
jl
I think in the Xtianist view, like Bachmann’s, the Jews are still the chosen people, so long after the goyim are irretrievably damned, Jews get a second chance to convert to Xtianity, and then are damned.
I forget whether this is before, or after, or in the middle of Armageddon. Depends on which Xtianist sect you choose to follow.
Anyway, was not anti Semetic at all, they give chance!
Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg
WaterGirl
Litlebritdifrnt
For a minute there, I thought you were going to say that it turned out your boss was talking about the democrats – that this is their fault. whew!
Little Boots
the goyim are damned? wait.
Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
@PaulW:
A) Paul!! Doood! :: waves ::
B) Look!! MonkeyBoy’s fix fixt it!
@piratedan: Lookee! It worked!
@MonkeyBoy: Thank you so, so much! Fixt, and fixt.
stinkdaddy
+1 “OMGOMGOMG PATTON OSWALT” comment. That dude is awesome.
BTW, anyone who’s into Patton Oswalt, football or both should check out the movie Big Fan. It’s fantastic, har har, and darkly nuts in a way that I imagine this blog would love.
Little Boots
it is tempting, Ben, but they just suck. they really do. it’s like rightwing Christians. theoretically, there is something there worth embracing, but in reality, no, they just suck, relentlessly.
different church-lady
Because McConnell is not the House Majority Leader.
I mean, is Greenwald just an idiot, or is he deliberately trying to make my head explode?
asiangrrlMN
@jeffreyw, I miss the animal pron as much as I miss the food pron.
One.Who.Yawns
This dog is cute as hell.
jl
@78 All the goyim except for the Xtianists, or, the particular sect of Xtianists that mooshed together all the Biblical prophecies just right.
But, yeah, everyone gets damned excpet whoever believes just all the exact right things. Where you been?
MikeJ
Here’s what I had:
preparing
served
mr. whipple
Yes.
General Stuck
Gracias Amigo!
Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
@jl: Speaking of which, while we were in Israel just now, we took the kids to the fairly gob-smacking archeological site at Tel Meggido (30 layers of civilization!).
As we were watching the opening video at the site’s starting point, at one point the narrator said “…blahblahblah and is also known in Christian tradition as the site of Armageddon…”
At which my Jewish born-bred-and-educated nearly-12-year-old boy turned to me with a somewhat shocked look on his face and said “We’re in Armageddon?!”
WaterGirl
RossinDetroit
There were so many references to fake democrats in the article that I did a search – “fake democrat’ was in that article 7 times. How cool is that?
Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
@asiangrrlMN:
whispers Hey, you!
jl
John Cole can keep this blog rolling on Rosie power, I bet she will love the treadmill that keeps the electricity flowing.
And jeffreyw will have beautiful pics of haught hobo quisine.
Is that right jeffreyw? I hope it is.
Little Boots
I been around, jl, knowing what goyim means. but the important thing is, where’s that reply button? I miss that.
jl
@88 Emily Hauser: did he then exclaim ‘COOOOOOLLL!’ or not?
HEY ASIANGRRLMN, HI.
Wonder if disappearance if Reply Button was a Sign?
2liberal
Lily looks fat in those pictures. Did Cole put her on the Tunch diet?
gwangung
Ah, latest news on the show I’m producing.
And the author himself is coming to town to take a look.
Argh.
OzoneR
He’s claiming it has Boehner’s support, which it doesn’t. He’s getting pretty well schooled by other twitterers on it.
stinkdaddy
Mike Kay:
Bill Murray:
OzoneR:
By understanding the difference between number of donations and amount of money donated.
http://wap.yahoo.com/w/news_america/obama-2012-campaign-far-exceeds-fundraising-goal-131912258.html?back=%2F&.ts=1310580710&.ysid=4FLrF9dvZtZQVJ5tH1UITC9V&.intl=US&.lang=en
Why do you suppose they won’t tell us how much of the actual money was raised by small donors? I’m not a huge Obama fan, don’t have a particular problem with him fundraising, but either way if you’re running around repeating this 98% figure, you’re parroting their spin. The math is fuzzy on a “obviously what’s fair is for the richest 1% to be paying 1% of the taxes” level.
jeffreyw
@jl: Here’s a little something to take the edge off: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffreyww/5931923200/in/photostream
gwangung
stinkdaddy: Well, I will say that’s different from the usual 90/10 or 95/5 split that dominates most big money campaigns.
General Stuck
Man wins right to wear pasta strainer as headgear for religious reasons, in his driver license photo. And you may have guessed what deity the dude worships.
Yes, our lord of wordpress, Razzoli the Magnificent, Lord of the Noodley Appendage. There is this tiny nugget of justice and feedom in this big crazy mixed up pasta world.
SIA
Anyone see the Daily Show tonight? Seinfeld made a surprise appearance. The subject was Mr. Marcus Bachman. Heh.
jeffreyw
@asiangrrlMN: Where have you been?
Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
@jl: He just looked vaguely horrified! I kind of rolled my eyes and shrugged my shoulders. (The funniest thing is that they actually try to put a pleasant spin on the notion of Armageddon…! “Triumph of good over evil,” and “world redemption,” etc).
MikeJ
@stinkdaddy: Max contribution is $4400. 2% is 11,000. What percentage of $86 million came from the top 2% of donors?
It’s just not possible for the top 2% to be 55% of donors.
Mike Kay (Team America)
“Why do you suppose they won’t tell us how much of the actual money was raised by small donors?”
Hmmm, I see, you want to see the long form.
different church-lady
You say that and a mash-up of the Three Stooges Alphabet and the Marx Brothers’ Horse Feathers unfolds in the mind…
stinkdaddy
@ Mark, 59: Yeah, I have a strong feeling that you should return Alpha Protocol unopened if you still have the receipt. That game is baaaaaaaaaaaad.
Crackdown’s really good, though it’s four years old. You paid $30 for all 3 right? If they’re charging $30/ea I’d call the cops, or maybe just set that Gamestop on fire. Hell, both!
MattR
@MikeJ:
Actually, it is.
$4400 * 11,000 donors / $86 million total = 56.2%
EDIT – @Mike Kay (Team America):
That obviously changes the math.
asiangrrlMN
You know the only good thing about no reply button? I can exceed my patented triplicate response.
ee, good to see you, too, girl!
jl, hey, long time no see, FH#3! How you be?
MikeJ, I’ll have extra-sausage on my pizza, thankyewverymuch.
jeffreyw, you’re killing me. I gotta eat lunch.
ETA: Out ::she said ominously::. Taking a break from politics and strengthening our relationship with Canada.
gwangung, looking good!
jl
WP et my replies, but got to go now. Good luck to us all.
Mike Kay (Team America)
MikeJ, max contribution is $2,500 during the primary cycle.
OzoneR
I don’t really care either way. In a post Citizen’s Union world, no one can win elections on small donors alone, I was just wondering how he got the math from the 98% figure.
Mike Kay (Team America)
MattR –
Actually, it’s not
$2,500 * 11,000 donors / $86 million total = 31.9%
Mark S.
Neptune Completes First Orbit Since Its Discovery in 1846. I don’t know, I found that pretty cool.
And here’s a romantic story about monkeys getting married.
piratedan
@Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther: well that and the Def Leppard video……
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@MonkeyBoy: Thank you MonkeyBoy! I finally got around to fixing the reply button. An installation so easy even an engineer can do it!
jeffreyw
@asiangrrlMN: Extra sausage? I have an app for that.
stinkdaddy
MikeJ:
Well it is when you’re watching the Seahawks anyway.
/drumfill
Mike Kay (Team America)
The Base vs the Nutbaggers (using math)
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/07/base.html
gwangung
stinkdaddy
I—–got nothing for that.
JGabriel
@cbear:
How do you know he hasn’t? I find myself wondering if anyone of our commenters are Oswalt posting pseudonymously.
.
Uncle Glenny
More Bachmann weirdness:
Bachmann Gave To MN Addiction Recovery Center Credited With Exorcisms
MikeJ
Is the committee C00431445? As soon as the data is uploaded to fec.gov we’ll have every question answered.
Mark S.
@stinkdaddy:
Oh no, it was $30 for all three of them. And I played a little Alpha Protocol and wasn’t impressed. I liked how you have about two seconds to decide how you want to answer someone (friendly, seductive, or dickhead). Why can’t they pause the stupid game for dialogue options like in every other RPG I’ve ever played?
MikeJ
@gwangung: Come on, they damn near went to the super bowl with a losing season. That’s more exciting than teams that expend all that effort winning.
stinkdaddy
@ gwangung, 100: Fair enough. Like I said, I don’t have a particular problem with him raising money either way. Obviously I’m concerned when it comes from Wall Street or someone else who I would worry will expect it to be paid back, but that’s not something specific to Obama.
What’s important is that people are already jumping on the bullshit cooked 98% figure to do a “Ha ha, fuck you hippies! Where’s your pissed-off base now?” touchdown dance, and either not realizing or not caring how hard they’re being spun.
(I assume btw that the 55% figure Bill Murray gave above comes from what’s left over after 98% of 552,000 people give the average of $69. That comes out to like $37m, or about 44% from small donors. This is pretty far from quality analysis, but I don’t have the skill to do any better so I dug up the Yahoo article where some guy who knows stuff is talking instead.)
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@OzoneR: He’s right, I was skeptical and checked it. You need to Google “Obama average donation” to get the Secret Number that the average donation was $69. Once you know that, the percentages work out reasonably closely. Roughly $4,500 each for the 2% if you allow $69 each for the other 98%.
Steeplejack
@MonkeyBoy:
I chided Cole yet again Monday night, but as far as I can tell there has still been no response. Like you, I don’t get it at all. The fix is dead easy.
The Dangerman
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
All Hail MonkeyBoy! I have a Reply button again!!
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
So Patton- if you are indeed lurking- if I’m rolling up a character that I want to use as a wild mage, should I where should I focus my high rolls: Dexterity, intelligence or charisma? And which race should I play for the best effect?
If that doesn’t bring him out, I don’t know what will.
Suffern ACE
@jeffreyw:
Mmmmm. Beware of the reaction to pics like that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8632001/Pictures-of-the-day-12-July-2011.html
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@Mr Stagger Lee: Why lacrosse? Fastest game on two feet, is what I hear. Little known fact, the rules of hockey were derived from lacrosse.
Also, too, in the world championships, the Iroquois (who invented the sport) fields its own national team.
stinkdaddy
@ Mike, 125: Your senses are not deceiving you. If you look closely enough at the game disc you’ll see that it is literally a piece of crap, and if you have a big enough toilet you may as well flush it.
I think letting you choose dialogue options at your leisure isn’t ‘actiony’ enough, but that’s just my guess. Seems like fucking EVERYTHING has to be real-time or semi-realtime now or people will just glaze over and stop paying attention. Hell, the 4th edition of D&D reads like someone printed out a copy of WoW’s game mechanics and slapped a Wizards of the Coast logo on ’em. I better stop, I’m about to fly into a geek rage again.
jeffreyw
@Suffern ACE: Ack!
gwangung
stinkdaddy I’m a little skewed, compared to most people…so I tossed in some figures that I know about. I think, ultimately, we don’t know enough to say what it means, one or another,—and it’d take a lot more study to know enough.
Anyway….rehearsal!
asiangrrlMN
@MonkeyBoy: I love you with the heat of a thousand suns. Oh reply button, how I have missed you.
MikeJ
@Suffern ACE: If they didn’t want to be bothered by the croc, instead of Brutus the Darwinites should have named it Tojo.
LongHairedWeirdo
I found this *great* parody site! You should see the amazing comments they’re getting. First, read the comments. Make sure you’re outraged enough to be expecting horrible things. *Then* watch the video! It’s HI-LARIOUS!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/gladney-trial-defense-claims-gladney-was-selling-obama-in-white-face-pins-ergo-they-beat-his-a-on-pavement
(PLEASE don’t tell me they’re being serious. It’ll ruin my faith in humanity.)
asiangrrlMN
@Steeplejack: Steepman! Good to see ya. How you be?
Nutella
@Uncle Glenny:
An … interesting … quote from that article about Bachmann’s favorite ‘charity’:
OooooKaaay.
Our current economic problems must involve lots of succubi and even more incubi, then.
stinkdaddy
@ MikeJ, 105: Yeah I don’t know where the 55% came from, though it’s probably just some back-of-the-napkin amateur analysis like I was describing in #134. I honestly have no idea what the actual figures are, but if the dollar breakdown was anywhere near that 98% figure they’d just give it instead of playing semantics.
As I said above I don’t really give a shit about the actual big/small donor breakdown, but the way these figures have been released gives a strong indication that the “Ha ha, fuck you hippies! The base likes Obama just fine!” reaction is exactly what the WH was looking for.
Maybe it’s better if ‘the base’ thinks everything is fine, maybe it’d be better if they thought Obama was in trouble. Maybe that’d get them to donate even more. Maybe there is no One True Base and it’s a stupid way to interpret a fudged stat in the first. I don’t really know what the implication of any of it is, I just hate shit that isn’t true no matter where it’s coming from.
Mark S.
@LongHairedWeirdo:
For fuck’s sake, Gladney’s still wearing a neck brace? How long ago was the incident, like two years ago?
Hoft might very well be the dumbest wingnut on the Internets (though there’s a lot of competition for that). Remember when he was outraged by the [APPLAUSE] captions at the Arizona shooting memorial?
OzoneR
I think even with the other numbers, these numbers still give credit to that argument.
Garbo
Patton? Here??? OMG i’m having a total fangirl melt down. And Lily pictures on top of that? I may faint. Best post evahhhhhhhh!
SiubhanDuinne
@SIA 73:
Oh wow, you got an iPad!! Ex. Cel. Lent. Congratulations.
I’ll write to you off line with a list of some fave apps I think you’d enjoy playing with.
stinkdaddy
I think it’s more accurate to say Gladney is wearing the brace again. It went away for awhile, then showed back up when he went to court. My favorite part was reading about how he didn’t end up making the brace the part of his case–you know he was trying to work himself up to it, but just couldn’t do it. Even Gladney has a little bit of shame.
And I swear Hoft has to be a performance piece. There’s no way. There’s simply no other way. Stupidest Republican on the Internet? If Jim Hoft is a real person I’m thinking he might just be the stupidest person on the planet, flat-out.
Mike Kay (Team America)
Steeplejack
@asiangrrlMN:
Just got home from work a little while ago, and I’m off tomorrow, so I’m feelin’ good. How you doin’? Haven’t seen you around here much lately.
stinkdaddy
I think it’s a ridiculous argument to make either way. There’s no way of knowing who these people are and where on the ideological spectrum they fall. For all a gloating moderate knows, this is a big influx of cash from independents and conservative Democrats who are stoked on austerity.
As far as overall amount, some of those numbers are cooked too. It’s $47 mil for Obama and $39 mil for the DNC, not “$86 mil for Obama.” $47 mil in a quarter is less than Bush did this time 8 years ago. If we’re going to be reading tea leaves it looks a lot more like anti-Republican than pro-Obama sentiment. Either one gets him elected, if there’s going to be a pissing match over whether “The Base” is happy with Obama the amount being donated to nationwide Dems doesn’t, in my mind, demonstrate it.
Steeplejack
@TaMara (BHF):
That is really funny! Hope it gets some good play.
Yutsano
@Steeplejack: Me home too. Just 90% completed a pico de gallo for work tomorrow, now goofing off until a run to the store to snag a couple things, then it’s guacamole time.
@asiangrrlMN: Hi hon. I think Lexie is trying to kill me, but I’m not sure.
stinkdaddy
@ Mike Kay, 148:
Wow, be slightly more self-aggrandizing. While googling for some figures on this amazing(ly bullshit) 98% figure, I found a bunch of people trumpeting it and doing the touchdown dance. When I say, “I see some people doing x” it’s not a passive-aggressive way of refusing to address you by name, it’s a way of referring to you and others. Time to get over yourself.
(And, interestingly, you’re bragging about unquestioningly repeating a bullshit talking point put out by the WH. I guess that’s one way to handle getting caught out.)
Also, I’m apparently held to account for a blog I don’t read? I haven’t paid attention to Kos for years, and I started actively avoiding his posts, articles, media appearances, etc. after he jumped on blaming Palin for Loughner within minutes of the story breaking, before anyone knew detail 1 about the incident. We’re talking “change the channel if he comes on” avoidance. The dude disgusts me, so uhh, what the fuck is the point of trying to make a point that rests on an assumption that I read his blog?
I’m not saying the base is pissed, I’m not saying the base isn’t pissed. As I’ve alluded to repeatedly I don’t believe there is “a” base, and I don’t fucking know if the various factions are pissed or not because I don’t presume to speak for them. The point, since you’re obviously too busy congratulating yourself to read for clarity, is about people being so determined to see what they want to see that they’re willing to swallow and regurgitate WH spin like any average freeper. If bleating out whatever the WH tells you is what you want outta life, more power to you.
Violet
@stinkdaddy:
Ages ago I briefly worked at some insurance company in the claims department. The group I worked with focused on workers comp claims. They actually hired private investigators to follow up on people who had put in long-term workers comp claims. They were looking for cheaters and would find them. Like the guy who walked perfectly normally down the driveway, into the car, into a store, etc., but when he showed up to court he’d be wearing a full leg brace and using crutches. I know it’s not just an urban legend because I actually had to process files for him and people like him.
Horrible, horrible place to work and terrible people working there, but I learned a bit about people who cheat on workers comp claims. I also learned about the crappy things private investigators do to get info. Sucky all around.
MonkeyBoy
@The Dangerman:
I think a more appropriate quote might be laugh while you can monkey boy.
Sure I get kudos for working around this FY-BJ-WP problem just like my double underscore hack to enable blank lines in FYBJWP blockquotes was so absurd that I claimed a copyright on it.
I don’t know if I’m laughing or crying.
Suffern ACE
…college educated and make $100K per year. While not “the base”, it wasn’t that part of the tent that stayed home last year. That part tends to donate money and vote.
Was the 2008 primary your first election, by any chance? It seems to have a special meaning for you.
Elizabelle
Violet:
Worked for a few law firms. I remember that one insurer checking up on the “injured party” surveilled him enough to figure out he was selling drugs as a replacement career.
That one didn’t have a happy ending. For the guy.
Elizabelle
Who do you think is sleeping more soundly tonight?
Obama?
Cantor?
Boehner? (OK, maybe the sleep of those sailing the Cutty Shark.)
Financial analyts?
stinkdaddy
@Violet: That’s fascinating. For some reason I’ve always found the mundane portions of the seedier side of life really interesting: tax cheating, marriage cheating, insurance fraud, crap like that. I guess in that regard I’ve had a pretty sheltered life. It’s not like I’m a saint; I’ve gotten into trouble, drank and smoked some things I shouldn’t have but going out for insurance fraud or something is a whole other world that I just do not have the guts for. I know it’s out there and I’ve probably even met some people who make a living with that kinda shit, but it’s completely outside of anything I’ve ever come into contact with. If someone made a documentary on it I’d be lining up for sure.
That does sound like a horrible place to work–sounds like it’d kill your empathy both at the personal and big-picture level. ‘Pffft… look at that guy milking it. He’s not really that hurt.’ ‘Well, maybe we do need tort reform. I deal with these fraud cases every day, there sure seem to be a lot of ’em.’
Mike Kay (Team America)
“As I’ve alluded to repeatedly I don’t believe there is “a” base, ”
then why are you so mad that the angry-hippie-base meme, as you described it, is discredited?
If you really don’t believe there is “a” base, you should be happy that the notion of a monolithic base (as represented by the angry-hippie meme you cite) is false.
stinkdaddy
Oh sorry, missed this part.
Mike Kay, @148:
1) I am 30.
2) I am DIRT fucking poor (to address some of your other stats about me apparently being ‘well-off’, though not quoted here)
3) I don’t read KOS
4) I did provide data. It showed that you were trumpeting a false stat. Contrary to whatever you’ve convinced yourself happened, showing that the 98% stat was false was my actual and only point.
5) Holy nonexistant Christ do you ever like to make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
Steeplejack
@Yutsano:
I think guacamole is the perfect food. That is all. Though I wish I had some now. Damn you!
MattR
@Violet: Way back when I worked in an office, my cube was right across from the office of the guy who dealt with workman’s comp claims. There was usually a whole lot of yelling coming from that office. I came out of it thinking there were scumbags on both sides of that equation – the company refusing to pay out legit claims and workers trying to milk the system for all they could.
Also reminds me that I was on a bus that was involved in a very minor accident in the NYC suburbs about 15 years ago. The bus made a stop on the side of the road and the pickup truck behind us could not get stopped in time. We got barely tapped and it was nothing worse than someone hitting the brakes kinda hard yet half the passengers made sure to mention neck pain to the police officers who showed up to take a report. Even more amusing was a couple years later when I got a call from an insurance company and gave a phone deposition about the accident because someone was suing with a claim of carpal tunnel syndrome as a result of the accident.
stinkdaddy
@ Mike Kay, 160:
Are you drunk or just stupid? You’re trying to use a bogus stat to ‘discredit’ something I don’t care about. You’re sitting here playing with sticks in the sand and you’ve scratched out that 1+1=3. You have some other conclusions you’ve arrived at based on the fact that you think 1+1 is 3, and you’re trying to get me to argue with you about that.
Trouble is that 1+1 is 2, 98% of the $47 million that Obama just raised did not come from small donors, and I don’t give a shit about your flawed attempt to prove some cliquey point with cooked stats. The end.
Yutsano
@Steeplejack:
I would share some of mine in a heartbeat. I made it for work right after I first started, and this will be the third time it’s been commanded out of me. I think I’m being pigeon-holed. :)
Quick store trip, forgot a couple things for it, shan’t be long.
stinkdaddy
@ Elizabelle, 157:
Funny… I have a friend who was legitimately hurt and was selling weed to make ends meet while going thru the worker’s comp case. (This is CA, both he and all his customers have the proper paperwork to make it legal.) So he notices he’s getting followed a lot, and that there’s someone spying on him from an upstairs window across the street. He initially thinks it’s WC, but eventually finds out (very small town) that the local cops were bored and decided to stick a PI on him and see if he slipped up, which amounted to nothing because he wasn’t doing anything wrong.
I find it amusing how it’s basically the same story, except all the pertinent details are reversed.
Mike Kay (Team America)
you say it’s “something I don’t care about.”, yet earlier you said, “What’s important is that people are already jumping on the bullshit cooked 98% figure to do a “Ha ha, fuck you hippies! Where’s your pissed-off base now?” touchdown dance, and either not realizing or not caring how hard they’re being spun.”
so in one post, you don’t care about it, in a prior, you ramble on about it’s importance.
your unintended palin like laughter is chicken soup. like when she insisted paul revere warned the british. keep the laughs coming.
Mister Papercut
@CaseyL:
Hell, if Cole wanted to charge admission, I’d be down for some doggie tourism.
Failing that, though, I would happily settle for daily Lily pics to get us through the impending Cantorgeddon.
MattR
@Mike Kay (Team America): Reading comprehension fail. stinkdaddy said that what is important is that people are jumping on the 98% figure to push an agenda without realizing or caring that they are being spun. The agenda itself is not an important detail. In fact, it is very easy to not care about the agenda but still care that people are misleading/lying in order to denigrate it.
Violet
@stinkdaddy:
Yeah, it was truly awful, and not just because of the subject matter. The people were terrible. The boss was a woman and her assistant was another woman who was so far up the boss’s backside it was pathetic. They were both incredibly jealous of any other woman in the office and when I got assigned to their area they made my life difficult, including sending me to a closet to work (no I am not making that up). The assistant modeled herself after the boss, even to the point of gushing over the same movies, actors, cars, etc. It was rather astonishing. I’d never seen that level of ass-kissing before.
The subject matter was interesting on one level but also sad and pathetic. I had to watch some of the surveillance videos, met with some of the PIs (yuck, one hit on me), transcribed some interviews, and dealt with a zillion files. They were really behind on the filing, most likely because the assistant deemed herself too important to file and brought me in to do her work.
I only lasted a week in that department. I couldn’t get out of there fast enough.
4jkb4ia
I am much poorer, but I am relieved that the bookstore is a more than adequate substitute for drinking. And the mob took every copy of “A Dance With Dragons”.
This may be the meanest thing I ever said to John.
(I am just setting myself up here, so anibundel will have more than enough spoilers at her place.)
Suffern ACE
@MattR: Regardless, no true liberal would look at those figures and the amount of money in general that it takes to hold our campaigns for national office 20 months out of every two-year cycle and conclude that a fundraising advantage in conditions like this is somehow beneficial to liberal politics. He needs banker money again to win and is probably tapping it. He won’t get oil money, but yipee, the bankers will save liberal democracy like they have in so many other places!
/resigned
4jkb4ia
It’s OK, I wasn’t getting to it until after Tisha B’Av anyhow.
MikeJ
@Suffern ACE: Round up 10,000 people and get them to max out.
I simply can believe how stupid people are, being upset about a fund raising advantage.
4jkb4ia
Suffern ACE, you missed the Andrew Ross Sorkin column I linked to the other day–they are ahead of what they expected for Wall Street money.
Mike Kay (Team America)
it’s just another club to bash obama. it’s about personality, not policy.
St. Edwards actually worked for wall street hedge fund (Fortress Investment Group) that made money foreclosing on homes damaged by Katrina in New Orleans. but he == they gave a pass. If they liked obama, he’d get a pass as well.
stinkdaddy
@MattR, 169: Yeah, that. If someone wants to look at a stat and use it to tell a story about shitting on hippies that’s fine but don’t do it around stats that, if not provided for that explicit purpose, have certainly been sliced and diced to make Obama voters in general look as enthusiastic as the numbers can be tilted to show.
Cillizza, etc. are already running with the line about how this demonstrates there’s still enthusiasm and Obama can count on the average person and etc. If someone wants to tell that story, then fine, but don’t be surprised if someone points out that a majority of the money is still coming from big donors and asks how that affects the claim of voter enthusiasm and whatnot.
iow, don’t go around yelling about how 98% of $86 million proves enthusiasm among the average voter unless you’re prepared to answer what 51%+ of $47 million coming from big donors proves. I could give a shit if you’re punching hippies, but get your story straight.
MikeJ, 174:
It’s cool. I can’t believe that people are pretending it’s impossible to recognize spin as spin without being bent outt’ve shape about it. I also can’t believe people are so protective of Obama that they can’t accept criticism as mild as “these fundraising numbers are being presented so as to appear better than they actually are.”
Spin happens in politics. Maybe someday you’ll get to a point where someone noticing it doesn’t freak you out so bad.
Mike Kay (Team America)
MattR, “Reading comprehension fail”. That’s rich coming from you. LOLZ.
vh
Um, John, Lily is developing double chins and other folds of fat. She is following Tunch into obesity. Dog food abuse. Time to cut back.
Mike Kay (Team America)
Fabulous! Even the liberal Ari Melber of The Nation says it’s a “tremendous success”. And this is from a guy who constantly bashes obama. He makes an compelling point: 260,000 contributors are first time donors. So maybe he’s lost some prior donors, maybe he hasn’t, who knows. One thing for sure, he’s generated a shit load of new small donors. Melber finished, saying, “Barack Obama, today, at this point in his presidency, has more support among Democrats, then any Democratic president in the last 50 years (including Kennedy and Johnson). So in broad based polling, Democrats are standing behind this president”.
Uncle Glenny
Nutella
Maddow did a pastiche of whacko quotes of many of the “pastors” that will be speaking at Rick Perry”s pray-in, and this was one of them.
You can find it here.
Mary
Is it just me, or is Lily starting to look a little, well, Tunch-like? Make sure she’s getting enough exercise!
murbella
No dog should have four chins.
Paul in KY
Litlebritdifrnt, late to the party, but I’m glad you mentioned that. I think Tsingtao tastes like panther piss (or worse). I won’t drink anything coming out of the PRC.
4jkb4ia
What 171 Should Have Said:
Dude! Brother, dear heart! You are making a fool of yourself on Twitter! Go the fuck to bed! If I was there, I would make sure you were put to bed, and SLEPT there!