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USA v France Open Thread

by Randinho|  July 13, 201111:45 am| 114 Comments

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For which Cinderella will the clock strike twelve? Have at it.

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  1. 1.

    Steve

    July 13, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Did you seriously refer to the US as a Cinderella in women’s soccer? Even if Duke wins on a miraculous shot at the buzzer, they’re still Duke and not anyone’s idea of a Cinderella.

  2. 2.

    Chris

    July 13, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Allons enfants de la patrie,
    Le jour de gloire est arrivé
    Contre nous de la tyrannie
    L’étendard sanglant est levé
    Entendez vous dans les campagnes,
    Mugir ces féroces soldats?
    Qui viennent jusque dans nos bras
    Egorger nos fils, nos compagnes!

    Aux armes, citoyens!
    Formez vos bataillons!
    Marchons! Marchons!
    Qu’un sang impur
    Abreuve nos sillons!

  3. 3.

    WeeBey

    July 13, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Beat these French fucks like they stole something.

  4. 4.

    LGRooney

    July 13, 2011 at 11:56 am

    For those who can’t watch.

  5. 5.

    stuckinred

    July 13, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Where were you Sunday?

  6. 6.

    Randy Paul

    July 13, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Allow me some poetic license, okay?

  7. 7.

    freelancer

    July 13, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    I hear Hope Solo is newly single. She will be mine, oh yes.

  8. 8.

    stuckinred

    July 13, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    USA USA

  9. 9.

    MattR

    July 13, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!

    (Though I have to admit that I still cringe when I hear the last name Cheney)

  10. 10.

    BO_Bill

    July 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Nobody cares about women’s soccer. This might change if the sport goes topless.

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    July 13, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Rupert dropped the bid for the BSKY

  12. 12.

    Martin

    July 13, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Now that’s how you want to start a match.

  13. 13.

    stuckinred

    July 13, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Take all this other bullshit somewhere else, especially YOU.

  14. 14.

    Martin

    July 13, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Obama’s record-smashing $86M haul

    He takes in more cash by far than any other incumbent president has raised in a first quarter.

    Boy, the base is seriously disappointed in this guy.

  15. 15.

    stuckinred

    July 13, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Martin goddamn it .

  16. 16.

    Amir_Khalid

    July 13, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    @BO_Bill:
    Yeah. Just like people would care more about men’s football if that sport went bottomless.

  17. 17.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Boy, the base is seriously disappointed in this guy.

    you’re right Martin. Although the base to which you refer are the big money boys

    eta: Of course I should stick to footie. Sauerbrunn makes her WC debut in the semis, latest ever debut in the WWC

  18. 18.

    Amir_Khalid

    July 13, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Isn’t USA a major force in women’s international football, and thus not really a Cinderella team?

  19. 19.

    Randy Paul

    July 13, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Amir,

    Again, please allow me a little poetic license, okay?

    BO-Bill,

    As stuckinred said: take it elsewhere.

  20. 20.

    schrodinger's cat

    July 13, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Just saw the front page of NYT bomb blasts in Mumbai, again.

  21. 21.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    A lot more open game in terms of officiating. There’d have been four yellows already if Sunday’s ref was on the field.

  22. 22.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Wow. That was too close. Need a second goal here.

  23. 23.

    MattR

    July 13, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    France is getting too much pressure. A little more possession would be nice.

  24. 24.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    US are getting stretched pretty badly and are having trouble keeping possession. Solo had a great save, as did ther cross bar

  25. 25.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Amy Rodriquez… what’s the opposite of touch?

  26. 26.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Great run from Rampone and Wambach off the bar

  27. 27.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Amy Rodriquez… what’s the opposite of touch?

    DaMarcus Beasley

  28. 28.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Wambach you will know her by the trail of dead

  29. 29.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    I’m seeing the fatigue in a bit of flat-footedness on the American side. They’re fit enough to run, but a bit tired to start.

  30. 30.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Man, the French goalie is wretched…

  31. 31.

    BO_Bill

    July 13, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    TV ratings for women’s soccer championships are around 2. TV ratings for football championships are around 45 (I know, I know, hate numbers). The current viewership for women’s soccer consists primarily of the player’s parents, sexual deviants, and metrosexuals. This does not form the basis for strong advertising prospects. And professional female sports get no Title IX cash.

    Put me in charge and I will make female-soccer thrive.

  32. 32.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    We could really use a destroyer in central midfield. I said last night that it was crucial for Boxx and Lloyd to step up, and it’s not happening so far. This is far from over.

  33. 33.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    A-Rod has been the biggest disappointment of the tournament for the US. Get her off, Pia. Time for Morgan.

  34. 34.

    handsmile

    July 13, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Les Alouettes are bossing the game and are leading in every offensive category, except of course in the only one that matters. (I smell wenger.)

    If they continue to try to beat Solo with launches from 20+ yards, this is 2-0 US victory easy.

    And I know it’s OT, but crikey it’s half-time, Atrios has conclusive proof that the Minnesota state shutdown will be over in a matter of days.

  35. 35.

    daveNYC

    July 13, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    so I guess the American is to let the French tire themselves out kicking at our goal.

    And I just saw a FIFA add saying “Say no to racism.” I know why they’re doing it, but that’s a pretty fucked up thin to see on the TV.

  36. 36.

    john b

    July 13, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    TV ratings for women’s soccer championships are around 2.

    the quarterfinal match on Sunday got a 2.6. On CABLE. In the middle of a summer afternoon. It will likely rank at the top of the ratings for cable programs for the week and be in the mix with network shows.

  37. 37.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Lloyd is being pretty sloppy with possession.

  38. 38.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Where is the US midfield? Have they decided their only job is to weakly punt the ball to a French winger? dreadful.

  39. 39.

    Amir_Khalid

    July 13, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    It’s frustrating for the French to be dominating the play and yet down 1-0 at halftime. If this persists, I expect to see them make tactical substitutions around mid-second half.

    @HumboldtBlue:
    Agreed. 1-0 is too small a lead to be sitting on.

  40. 40.

    Larime the Gimp

    July 13, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Can we get Pia to coach the men’s team, too?

  41. 41.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Four consecutive possessions and all led to immediate turnovers and dangerous French attacks.

  42. 42.

    Bostondreams

    July 13, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    The current viewership for women’s soccer consists primarily of the player’s parents, sexual deviants, and metrosexuals.

    Funny. Sports Illustrated has them on the front page, nice and big, as we speak. Pretty damn popular. It is being discussed on Fox Sports Radio, ESPN radio, and the other sports radio networks. Pretty damn popular.

    Go away and pretend you have an opinion that matters.

  43. 43.

    Morbo

    July 13, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Surprised it took this long…

  44. 44.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    What the fuck was THAT?!

    People standing around…

  45. 45.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Dreadful, another turnover, cross-pass across the field and excellent delivery and Solo gets caught out

  46. 46.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Finally got Amy Rodriquez out…

  47. 47.

    Jay in Oregon

    July 13, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Here’s your regular dose of batshit WTFery…

    http://electnomorespys.blogspot.com/

    Some gems:

    Obama announced his run for office on Oprah Winfrey’s show. Oprah’s long time friend Gayle King may be a look alike for Whitney Houston which could be part of this code making Whit_ney White and Hous_ton House.

    and

    Sarah’s last name is short for palindrome. McCain’s favorite band he claims is ABBA, a palindrome. So who’s name is a palindrome? SOROS.

  48. 48.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    The second half has been dominated completely by the French, the US looks lost, tired and second-rate.

  49. 49.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    No midfield for the US, none at all.

  50. 50.

    Amir_Khalid

    July 13, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    … And France equalize. Not so surprising. The rest of the second half will be interesting.

  51. 51.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    All France, all the time.

    I thought the US played better than Brazil and deserved to win.

    France deserves this.

  52. 52.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Sweden played a similar possession game and won. If your game plan is to be more athletic and you’re tired, it’s going to be tough.

  53. 53.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    The French are a far better side, Le Sommer, Aliby and Necib are having their way.

  54. 54.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Yes, Rampinoe for Lloyd. Like that sub.

  55. 55.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    This is bad, very bad, thaT was a huge error by Hope and she got lucky.

  56. 56.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Solo’s kicks are weaker today. Must be the hammy.

  57. 57.

    handsmile

    July 13, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Humboldt Blue (#48):

    You might well be tired too, 72 hours after a punishing 120+-minute quarterfinal match. (France has had one extra day of rest.)

    Yet it’s too soon to despair, mes amis. The French attack remains bafflingly one-dimensional. And that goal was an attempted cross methinks.

  58. 58.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Rapinoe brought some energy

  59. 59.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    The midfield game reminds me of my kid’s soccer game.

    “Look! I can header the ball!”

    Yes, but to what effect?

  60. 60.

    BO_Bill

    July 13, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Popularity cannot be judged by what is placed on the cover of Neo-Journalism organizations like FOX Sports and ESPN. You need to understand that Neo-Journalism works hand-in-hand with Neo-Banking to dumb-down and feminize society, in an attempt to secure greater economic and physical security for those who would rule us. The sport of girls kicking around a ball while fully clothed is completely consistent with Neo-planning.

    The simple act of removing the shirts from these athletes will completely transform this competition from a denigration of traditional gender roles to a celebration of traditional gender roles. Beer sales will go through the roof and ticket prices will spike as men celebrate the natural beauty of the female form. The girls will have a great time also. Exhibit ‘A’ is this not safe for work video. With my plan, everybody wins with the exception of bankers and people with private jets.

  61. 61.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    At least Rapinoe is hot, great attempt … and yes, that was a cross that turned into a goal

  62. 62.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    That Nazi/Viking ref isn’t doing us any favors either.

  63. 63.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    How fun is it to say “Bompastor”?

  64. 64.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    Thomis, who ran over the English with her great pace is coming in. Probably on the right against LePeilbet

  65. 65.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    WAMBACH!

  66. 66.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. 67.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Wambach off the corner with the header. Woo Hoo!1!!!11!

  68. 68.

    Tuttle

    July 13, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Wombat!!!!!!

    Deadly on that back post.

  69. 69.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Wambach isn’t a soccer player, she’s a siege tower.

  70. 70.

    freelancer

    July 13, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Okay, that was awesome. Perfectly executed.

  71. 71.

    daveNYC

    July 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Is this streaming anywhere on the intertubes? I’m getting grumpy that I wasn’t able to milk my lunch hour longer than I did.

  72. 72.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    The French had no answer for Amy that close in

  73. 73.

    Culture of Truth

    July 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    woooot!

  74. 74.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Morgan 3-1 great ball from Rapinoe

  75. 75.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    There it is, Morgan closes it out

  76. 76.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Awesome!

    “I’m just pacing myself sargeant.”

  77. 77.

    Tuttle

    July 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    BO_BILL, the girls used to wear a lot less. Ratings were much lower.

    If your ideas were at all valid beach volleyball and netball (the “leg-man’s sport”) would be the two most popular spectator sports on earth.

    And another! Go Morgan!

  78. 78.

    stuckinred

    July 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    daveNYC\
    espn3

  79. 79.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    It’s on ESPN 3

    http://espn.go.com/espn3/#

    HB

  80. 80.

    Morbo

    July 13, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Wow, France just cannot defend anything. No wonder they tried to play possession in the offensive end for so long.

  81. 81.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Speed kills, and Morgan has plenty.

  82. 82.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    France: the best defense is a good possession offense. That or surrender.

  83. 83.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Give credit to Rampone and the defense, that first 25 minutes of the second half could have been disastrous

  84. 84.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    French goalie finally did something right.

  85. 85.

    Tuttle

    July 13, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    The only bad thing about the USA winning is that we won’t get to hear the world’s coolest national anthem again this tournament.

  86. 86.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Yeah, the defense has been stout. Two or three players fronting most of the time.

  87. 87.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Tuttle, are you talking about the Soviet anthem?

  88. 88.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    we won’t get to hear the world’s coolest national anthem again

    I’ve felt that way ever since the Soviet Union collapsed.

  89. 89.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 13, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Agree with the announcer, the French are loaded.

  90. 90.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Finalists, baby!

    Grab some Gatorade, ladies.

  91. 91.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Termiiiiiiiiiiino de partido!

    Ganoooooooooooo Estados Unidos!

  92. 92.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Ian Darke with the Prince reference. I imagine he stayed up all night thinking of that one.

    It’s good that LePeilbet got her game in order after her Sweden debacle

  93. 93.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Sauerbrunn was really solid in her debut.

  94. 94.

    patroclus

    July 13, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Is your name really Randinho?

  95. 95.

    Julie Raffety

    July 13, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Abby!!! Remember that the US played a player down for over an hour in the last match, they did seem tired at first, but got going finally. But they prevailed. On to the finals.

  96. 96.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    France is also pretty young. They will be one of the favorites in 2015.

  97. 97.

    Tuttle

    July 13, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    The Hymn Russia? I’ve always found it derivative and a bit overly lush.

    The Internationale could compete with La Marseillaise though.

  98. 98.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Wait the world’s coolest country theme song isn’t To Anacreon in Heaven? Michelle Bachmann will tan your hide

  99. 99.

    Steve

    July 13, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I’m partial to “O Canada” myself.

  100. 100.

    jl

    July 13, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Is this a freedom fries thing? Why are we mad at France this time?

  101. 101.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    July 13, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    “Arise children of the fatherland
    The day of glory has arrived
    Against us tyranny’s
    Bloody standard is raised
    Listen to the sound in the fields
    The howling of these fearsome soldiers
    They are coming into our midst
    To cut the throats of your sons and consorts

    To arms citizens Form your battalions
    March, march
    Let impure blood
    Water our furrows”

    Mwa ha ha.

  102. 102.

    Ivan Ivanovich Renko

    July 13, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    The Soviet national anthem was the best tune… but the French anthem has balls.

  103. 103.

    PeakVT

    July 13, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    More good news from the other side of the pond.

  104. 104.

    Lymie

    July 13, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    Why is the coverage of the Women’s World Cup games on ESPN sponsored by Rogaine and the Bosley Hair Restoration System?

  105. 105.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    If your French is up to it, le live-blog a http://www.lequipe.fr est excellent.

  106. 106.

    cmorenc

    July 13, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    @Lymie:

    Why is the coverage of the Women’s World Cup games on ESPN sponsored by Rogaine and the Bosley Hair Restoration System?

    Maybe because there’s a market out there for women who want to restore hair…um, there, but ads directly targeted toward that market might be a bit too indiscreet. Or maybe it’s for boyfriends with receding hairlines who are watching the game with their girlfriends. Or maybe both.

  107. 107.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Solo: “I didn’t play my best game by any means.”

  108. 108.

    handsmile

    July 13, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Well, Chicken Little ought to be the dinner choice for some of you tonight!

    The first two US substitutions and the consequent tactical shift were transformational and decisive.

    While I repeat myself, France’s offensive attack was inexplicably unimaginative (particularly in light of the US’ porous midfield for much of the match). Thomis was brought on at least ten minutes too late.

    The French goalkeeper Sapowicz must be very grateful that she’s not South American. The mortal stroke of the third goal was entirely the result of her ineptitude.

    The bombast surrounding American national sports teams I find more than a little off-putting. But with their successive victories against Brazil and France (both matches in which they were statistically inferior save in the only category that truly matters), the US Women’s Soccer team fully deserves and refreshes the tired tropes of resolve, perseverance, and fortitude.

  109. 109.

    aretino

    July 13, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    That was a very obvious and reckless foul by Wambach to win the corner that set up the crucial second goal. Should have been a yellow card and a French free kick. Have to say that the referee jobbed the French on this one.

    But we still hear endless whining about how the Americans are hard done by. Typical. That’s how the ugly American image is sustained.

  110. 110.

    Hawes

    July 13, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Bombast surrounding American soccer teams? Yes, so off putting.

    If only Americans could approach their national teams with the same sort of rational perspective and sang froid that other nations do. Like the English, French or, say, Colombians.

    Truly, we should learn from our soccer betters and relax and enjoy the game.

  111. 111.

    Bill Murray

    July 13, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    There will be a replay at 6 PM Eastern on ESPN2

  112. 112.

    D.N. Nation

    July 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Yes, this idea that Americans should tone down the rah-rah nationalism for an international sporting event, unlike say EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, is ridiculous. I’m sure the French weren’t whining at all after ’06.

  113. 113.

    burnspbesq

    July 13, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    The always entertaining Guardian play-by-play.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/13/france-usa-live-womens-world-cup

  114. 114.

    Randinho

    July 13, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Patroclus,

    Of course not, but my wife calls me that and I think it’s a pretty good handle.

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