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by Tim F|  July 20, 20113:50 pm| 24 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 20, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    I won’t be bullied into chatting.

  2. 2.

    wrb

    July 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Bizarre. I did figure that they were competently-run businesses, but this sounds just loony.

    Disguises, bullying, lies dropped into copy — all were part of the pressure-cooker atmosphere that prevailed, according to former journalists who spoke to The Associated Press.
    Michael Taggart, who worked at The Sun in 2003, said the paper under Brooks was marked by “ruthlessness and misogyny.”
    “The reporters who were prepared to subject themselves and others to the most ridicule were the ones earmarked for success,” said Taggart, who now works as a consultant for London-based MRM.
    Insiders say the whatever-it-takes mantra was common across the tabloid world. But the pressure at News International — publisher of the Sun and the News of the World, the now defunct paper at the center of the phone hacking scandal — was particularly intense.
    Taggart described routinely participating in overnight stakeouts while at the Sun, something he said was rare at other papers he had worked for.
    He said other tabloids were just as hungry for scandal and celebrity, but they tended to rely on “great contacts, rather than covert operations.”
    At Rupert Murdoch’s tabloids, refusing to play ball meant being pushed to the sidelines. One reporter who said he went through that was Charles Begley, News of the World’s Harry Potter correspondent in 2001 when Brooks was its editor.
    The then 29-year-old reporter said he wore a Harry Potter costume to work and officially changed his name to that of the fictional boy wizard, all part of the paper’s attempt to tap into the Pottermania sweeping both sides of the Atlantic.
    On Sept. 11, hours after the fall of the Twin Towers, Begley was stunned to be chewed out by News of the World management for not wearing his costume. He said he was then ordered to attend the next news meeting in full Potter regalia.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hcrTrBb4iIH_3hHaSkGSsMaz952w?docId=e245328a86b449679cc314cbc7fd24f1

  3. 3.

    jl

    July 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    No chat from me either. But the pic reveals a fatal flaw in debt ceiling backup plan K. We are doomed.

    @2. OK, a little chat. If the scandal does get across the pond, imagine what will come out about Ailes, who is a truly and honestly mad as a rabid bat, crazy rich vindictive old loon.

  4. 4.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    July 20, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Site of the next Tea Party convention?

  5. 5.

    Jules

    July 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Why do I love Netflix instant?

    Because I am watching at this moment the most redonklously geeky & hilarious movie I have never seen before with my geeky teenager. The Last Lovecraft, perfect for bonding with your 19 year old son.

  6. 6.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    July 20, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    .
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    It’s only about $110 less per month, Grandmama. President Obama wouldn’t take that away from you if you really needed it.
    .
    .

  7. 7.

    Pangloss

    July 20, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Guests of Balloon Juice stay at the fabulous Irving Hotel. The Irving… your home away from home, featuring Free TV and coffee in your room.

  8. 8.

    Violet

    July 20, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    @jl:
    I really hope the scandal hops the Atlantic. I saw a headline saying that Rupert was going to be called to testify in front of some governmental committee in Australia. That could be interesting, if it happens.

  9. 9.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 20, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    One more front page post and that troublesome anti-war rant by John Neville Chamberlain Cole will be in the dustbin of history.

  10. 10.

    jl

    July 20, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    @8 If there are really hearings in Australia, I will definitely look for a video of them, since they will be funner than others. I think you can say stuff like “Listen ‘ere you stingy lying old bugger” in hearings there.

  11. 11.

    Phyllis

    July 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    I’ve been glued to ‘Parking Wars’ on A&E all afternoon. It’s quite the hoot. Although I remember when A&E used to present actual Arts with their entertainment. Sigh.

  12. 12.

    Amir_Khalid

    July 20, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    The one about the Harry Potter correspondent still baffles me. They made a grown man legally change his name to Harry Potter’s? And come to work in a Hogwarts robe? (I’m not even going to ask why any newspaper aimed at adults would need to assign a person to cover nothing but Harry Potter.)

    The other stuff in the AP story — anywhere else, if a journalist did that kind of thing, it would be unprofessional conduct and grounds for sacking. The Sun went and made it company policy … Wow. Words fail me.

  13. 13.

    freelancer

    July 20, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    @Phyllis

    It’s easier to stalk a meter-maid with an HD handheld than to dress distinguished actors in a deerstalkers and tweed. Plus, the cable viewing audience relates more to their own parking lot drama than to Poirot or Agatha Christie. We are the stupid we’ve been waiting for.

  14. 14.

    Cain

    July 20, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I won’t be bullied into chatting.

    You will chat.. and you will like it. CHAT NOW, FREEDOM NOW! CHAT NOW, FREEDOM NOW!

  15. 15.

    djork

    July 20, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    I not only remember when A&E was an arts channel, but when Bravo was also a fine arts channel, and USA played early-round Stanley Cup hockey games, and also European art house films, uncensored.

    Regarding Bravo, my girlfriend is hooked on that channel. I watched it for a little while with her one night and came to the realization that I am apparently dating a gay man. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  16. 16.

    Karen

    July 20, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    I’m sure that Rushbo and all his ilk are popping the champagne corks to this:

    Court Appeal to assassinate Obama is protected speech

    This is one of those few times that I am simply speechless except to say that I hope Obama has better security now.

  17. 17.

    Brachiator

    July 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    With all the Murdoch stuff, the battle over the debt ceiling and the opening of the new Harry Potter movie, has there been much discussion over another story of the collusion of a powerful institution and authorities, the sad, inevitable report of foot dragging and evasion by the Catholic Church over child abuse by priests?

    Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny has launched an unprecedented attack on the Catholic Church in parliament.
    __
    He said the recent Cloyne Report into how allegations of sex abuse by priests in Cork had been covered up showed change was urgently needed.
    __
    Mr Kenny said the historic relationship between church and state in Ireland could not be the same again.
    __
    He said the report exposed the elitism, dysfunction, disconnection, and narcissism that dominated the Vatican.
    __
    “The rape and torture of children were downplayed or ‘managed’ to uphold instead the primacy of the institution, its power, standing and ‘reputation’,” the taoiseach said.

  18. 18.

    Elisabeth

    July 20, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    @ 11 Phyllis – July 20, 2011 | 4:09 pm ·

    I have been watching the Horatio Hornblower series for weeks now. I love it for some reason.

    Also have Tess of the d’Urbervilles on my Netflix queue.

  19. 19.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    @Cain:

    You will chat.. and you will like it. CHAT NOW, FREEDOM NOW! CHAT NOW, FREEDOM NOW!

    Did I ever tell you how much I like Indian people? (With the exception of the cuisine and that weird hangup with the wiping hand.)

  20. 20.

    Suffern ACE

    July 20, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    @Karen: Huh. I’m sure my civics teacher is now revising that lesson plan where we were informed that that was one speech act that would certainly get us in a heap of trouble with the authorities.

  21. 21.

    Suffern ACE

    July 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    @wrb:

    Begley was stunned to be chewed out by News of the World management for not wearing his costume. He said he was then ordered to attend the next news meeting in full Potter regalia.

    It’s like the Office.

  22. 22.

    Phyllis

    July 20, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    @efgoldman #15: Dude, I’m so old I remember when MTV actually played music videos. Ba dum dum.

    A&E used to have a program on Sunday mornings that featured movies, Broadway, music. The host was quite nice on the eyes as I recall. I still believe Newton Minow was misquoted. What I think he actually said was “Television will be a vast wasteland. In forty years.”

  23. 23.

    debbie

    July 20, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Speaking of goofy disguises, was O’Keefe serious when he posed as an I.R.A. agent wearing a kilt?

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/james_okeefes_latest_terrorist_medicaid_sting_goes_after_woman_for_following_law.php?ref=fpb

  24. 24.

    Jado

    July 21, 2011 at 9:37 am

    HEY!!

    That $2 trillion coin is legal tender, for all debts public and private. If you DON’T break it, I’ma call the cops on you for fraud. Or treason. Or something.

    Damn commies.

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