I sort of hate to do this, but WTF with some of the comments in ABL’s last post? She wrote:
I love that the brown girl is all, “RAAAAAAAAWWR!” and the white girl is all, “Um… hi, mom! My friend’s kinda pissed lol!”
That made me laugh because it was a funny description of the expressions of the two women in the photo. I scroll through the comments and I see half of you are accusing ABL of engaging in racist stereotypes. Is it really a stereotype that black woman go “RAAAAAAAAWWR!”? That’s a new one on me.
Michael Demmons
Some people see racism around every corner. Especially white people who haven’t got a fucking clue what they’re talking about.
Bret
Look, I’m not personally a huge fan of ABL’s writing style, but I think the reaction to her is just absolutely stupid. She’s a reaction-oriented writer – and by that I mean that she likes to get reactions out of people. I do the same thing a lot, because it forces people to at least think for a microsecond why they feel the way they do about something like race, or the gays, or whatever. I think it’s absolutely great that she’s here, and truly have no idea why we liberals can’t stfu and get along. If you don’t like it, go somewhere else.
Hawes
What’s funny is that’s the exact opposite of the House.
The White People’s Party is all “RAAAAAWR” and the multiethnic-lesbian-vegan party is all, “Hi, America. These guys are kind of nuts.”
Martin
Fucking misogynist!
Trainrunner
I’m no ABL fan, but I liked that post. It made me LOL.
Emily L. Hauser/ellaesther
No no no no no, you’re wrong. She said BROWN girls go “RAAAAAWR.”
Black girls, I’m thinking, probably do something sassy, and snap their fingers while doing it.
Keep up, man!
Catsy
It’s not and she wasn’t. This is about some people who have a bone to pick with ABL investing meaning into her words that simply isn’t there.
L. Ron Obama
The real issue here is that the white girl had a gun to the brown girl’s thorax.
TaMara (BHF)
You’ve been out of the country and have not caught up with the meme that everything ABL says is suspect and opens her up for personal attacks. Don’t worry, you’ll catch up.
BO_Bill
For those of us who have observed white women both:
(1) Operating a backhoe; and
(2) Working a heavy bag
It is difficult to discern which is more frustrating. However, I have recently changed my mind about women and heavy bags. Sometimes shattering stereotypes about white women can be a positive thing.
I would, however, still keep them clear of heavy machinery.
Tuttle
What Bret said. I’ve got my issues with ABL, but this is fucking moronic.
Jewish Steel
I’ll be curious to see if the usual suspects have the nerve to mount some feeble defense on a white guy’s post.
I’m betting they won’t.
geg6
ABL Derangement Syndrome. It’s rampant around here. I love her threads not only because I find her funny but for how crazy she drves so many people. All, as far as I know, white and mostly male. Love it. It unmasks them for me.
soonergrunt
The stupid, it burns.
On another note, my wife was just walking by the room where my eight-year-old nephew was just laying on the floor, not doing anything, and she asked him “are you tired? You ran around at the park a lot,” and he replied “No, I’m just pretending to be a dead fish.”
Oh, to be eight again.
MikeJ
The only thing dumber than ABL posts are the haters they bring out.
SiubhanDuinne
I love ABL. I am an ABL-bot.
Calouste
1) A significant number of commenters in ABL’s thread are racist and sexist (don’t bother with the /or)
2) Said commentors do projection better than a Multiplex on Harry Potter premiere night.
MobiusKlein
In solidarity,
RAAAWWWR!
MWD
(==Meek White Dude)
Turgidson
I think there should be a poll of each FPer’s approval rating. That would be some mighty good navel-gazing.
MattR
Are you really going to argue that there is not an angry black man/woman stereotype?
gwangung
Shit, so that WASN’T lust the other night????????
dude
le trying to WordPress on my mobile device
RAAAAAAAWWR!
AAA Bonds
IT IS NOW
Lolis
Yep, ABL’s statements clearly referenced the facial expressions of both women, nothing else. We need to laugh and point at these idiots who obviously think they are being clever. Assholes.
Mjaum
All the *best* women go Rawr! They also come in a whole variety of colours! Me likes! :D
Scott
ABL Derangement Syndrome is a great description of the problem. Some of the commenters ’round here are a mite crazy, when it comes to her…
ShadeTail
There is a small group of vocal shitheads who irrationally hate ABL for no reason and they troll her posts whenever she writes one. That’s really all there is to it.
AAA Bonds
I’m just glad that we’ve opened up the possibility of posting pictures featuring two women and the topic of fucking. I’ll have plenty for you soon.
Citizen_X
Obviously, VOIVOD goes RRRÖÖÖAAARRR!
ABL
thanks for solidifying my pie decision.
did you even notice that i said BROWN, not BLACK? i don’t know if the woman pictured is “black.” she could be latina, mixed, whatever.
you need to get a grip on yourself and hold it for a good long while until you stop seeing racial animus in everything i do around here.
If the ABL Derangement lasts for more than 4 hours, see your health care professional.
MattR
@ABL:
That is DougJ’s quote that I was responding to, not your initial comment. (EDIT: SO I guess the rest of your lecturing is really directed at him)
Keith G
Wasn’t a whole lot happening in that previous thread saving over-reactions and ineptitude on both sides.
Joel
We’re talking about the comments section on a blog. We’re all a little crazy. Some of us, more than a little.
Just Some Fuckhead
Yeah, this is one of those instances of “It’s the rest of the world that’s fucked up”..
Rihilism
trolls gotta troll…
different church-lady
Well, you gotta understand something here: Angry Black Lady is black. Therefore everything she says has racist overtones.
(What’s the close tag for “ironic voice”?)
different church-lady
“We liberals” are fine with it. I think there’s some others who aren’t on board, thou.
PurpleGirl
Soonergrunt @ 14: “Pretending to be a dead fish.”
That kid deserves a billion hugs for that line (and a special dessert). I’m still laughing. (Which hurts because I have a toothache, but it is such a great line and idea.)
John N
I am a longtime lurker here, mostly because I like the arguments that go on here and find them interesting. IMO, this whole thing is not worth blowing up over, but I do wonder why the girls are identified by their skin colors. Why not just say “the girl on the left?”
wonkie
I don’t get it either unless it’s some kind of reverse back flip psychology “Look I’m not a racist because I am rude to a black woman! I’m over race! SHe’s the racist! Why does she make everything be about race, unlike me who just can’t stop seeing racism in everythig she says?” Obsessive compulsives on a topic they claim to have moved beyond.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
meh i thought it was funny, if it was racist or x, motion, power dive action, reverse flea flicker racism on two,i don’t know. i just laughed a bit and moved on
stickler
Back in 2008, a bunch of my (mostly older, white-guy) colleagues — liberal Democrats to a man — would go batshit crazy at the mere mention of Hillary Clinton’s name. Oh, she’d be more Communist than Stalin; or, she’d impose gender reassignment surgery on all straight men; or, she’d force gay abortions on all Christians. Clinton Derangement Syndrome. Nobody under the age of 45 could quite understand it: sure, we didn’t love her, but it looked like the nominee was going to be a person with a Chicago accent, and that person was either a black moderate man or a white moderate woman. Whatever.
For some reason, ABL seems to have a similar effect on some folks here. I find her writing style frustrating and often hilarious — at the same time! And here’s a useful pro-tip: if I don’t like what she wrote … I SCROLL ON BY. No drama, no tears, no EMO. I find that I’m getting far more utility out of this here web log than I’m paying for it. If ABL wants to call some women “brown,” well fine. It has no real effect on me either way.
But some folks just can’t abide her, and man do they want the rest of us to know it. To them I would say: As a great man once said, “lighten up, Francis.”
Trollenschlongen
Oh please, you reverse racist motherfuckers are so self unaware that it is truly pathetic.
As stated before, you’re ok with racial stereotyping as long as it’s done by ABL, re the fat white guy she got all over with all kinds of racial stereotyping in an earlier post being just one of many examples.
And of course ABL is playing dumb/coy. Please.
To be crystal clear since all y’all ABL ass kissers are playing dumb, my problem with ABL in this case is her doing exactly the kind of thing for which she calls others out all the time.
Sing it and weep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM
Rihilism
Dear God, give it a rest…
kwAwk
I have to admit that the whole racist thing crossed my mind when I first read ABL’s post, though I didn’t participate in what sounds like a rather entertaining flame war.
In any case a lot of ABL’s posts seem to be intentionally portraying a ‘black perspective’ on things. It’s quite a contrast from the ‘white guy from rural West Virginia’ or the ‘white guy from rural New York’ perspective.
You all have to admit that there is a bit of fun irony to discussing whether there is a racial stereotype about blacks being angry in the context of a discussion of posts by someone who calls herself Angry Black Lady….
Mnemosyne
Seriously, is Tim the most thin-skinned troll in the history of the world? I vote yes.
Mark S.
@Mnemosyne:
That just proves you’re a racist.
Other sensitive types
Keith G
@Trollenschlongen
Now would be a good time and place for you to provide examples. The web is very useful in that regard. You have a platform and an audience.
I am not a fan of the way I have seen ABL respond to some folks here, yet, I am agnostic to the claims you have made. Prove your point.
Heliopause
Whoa, wait a minute, Doug. Who are you to tell individuals what their personal reactions to a post should be?
ABL
gee, that’s so weird, innit?
7thangel
i can’t take people who link to avenue q’s ‘everybody’s a little racists’ in an argument/debate about racism serious.
smdh
gwangung
You would think that different perspectives would be valuable to have.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Heliopause:
You read “tell” in that line? I saw a question…lol!
F’ing idjit.
101% ABL supporter here, pasty white ass and all. I love reading her posts and think she brings a perspective to this place that it was lacking.
Hate on haters, it’s all you got.
Donut
Fuckin A, I’m not a fan of 100% if what ABL or Cole or Doug or mistermix or Anne Laurie or Tom L or any other front-pager puts up. If you agree with someone 100% of the time, you’re fucking off your rocker and failing to think critically. For starters. Leave it at that. The point is, I like an awful lot of what ABL posts. Some of it I disagree with strongly. But there was not one offensive thing about her caption for the photo posted. Period. People picking on her about it reveal far more about themselves than anything else.
malraux
Its only 4e gnomes that go “RRRAAAAWWWRRRR”. Atleast that’s the only stereotype i have on the matter.
kwAwk
Whoda thunk?
Baron Jrod of Keeblershire
Yeah, really! ABL, why can’t you just write things that are race-neutral? You know, like the normal white people post. Having a black perspective is racist and scary!
RAAAAAWR
kwAwk
I think you’re misinterpreting what I meant. ABL wears her blackness on her sleeve. She plainly wants people to know she is black. Even in the picture that sparked this discussion the perspective she brings to the table is one of the contrast between the brown lady and the white lady. It doesn’t really bother me but apparently it does others.
Honestly, I believe that some of the front pagers at the DailyKos are black, but I don’t know who they are because they don’t tell me.
Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen
RAAAARWR. Also.
numfar
RAAARWR
ShadeTail
Trollenschlongen:
Oh, I get it. You’re a teabagger. That’s the only crowd that even believes that “reverse racism” exists, let alone are fucking stupid enough to say so in public.
What is the reverse of racism? Non-racism, it seems to me. So you’re hardly one to criticize anyone for being self-unaware, considering that you have not one iota of a clue what the fuck you’re talking about. You just declared that ABL is not racist, and you’re bitching and whining about it like a kindergartener who was just told that recess is over so he has to get off the monkey bars now.
Dipshit.
Chad N Freude
@kwAwk:
Not to mention her face, as well.
ETA: There may have been a stupider debate on BJ at some point, but if so, I missed it.
ABL
::snort::
Tonybrown74
@Tired of Right-Wing-Enabling-Pseudo-Left-Wingers
WHAT????
Some of you have lost your gawd-damned minds! You are so overly sensitive of criticism of racism that now you are seeing it in everything she rights.
Here’s a hint: if ABL is writing about issues of racism, she mentions racism. It’s kinda easy to identify that way.
In the name of all that is Evil and Un-Holy …
RRAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRR!
Carbon Dated
All the more incendiary posts (real or imagined) by ABL inspire many commenters to say how much they love/hate ABL’s posts.
I used to be lukewarm to many of her posts in the past — BUT I’M NOT RACIST. However, since she posted her pic I’ve had kind of a crush on her, and her posts have magically improved now that I know how lovely she is, so I guess I am sexist. I blame the patriarchy.
Galileo126
All I know is (a) GREAT protest poster… (b) I downloaded the pic and sent it to a bunch of people… and, (c) did I mention it was a great protest poster?
Paul in KY
Trollenschlongen, dude you need a humour transplant. All that rage is going to take years off your life.
Trollenschlongen
giggle.