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by John Cole|  July 26, 20117:55 pm| 61 Comments

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Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a simple, solid, plain baker’s rack? Christ almighty. F-ing wrought iron bullshit and decorative crap everywhere. WTF is aged iron? I just want something sturdy that can hold stuff.

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    July 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    I feel your pain. I couldn’t find anything reasonable that would fit the space I had, so I solved the problem with some raw materials (couple of pieces of plate metal, and a bunch of rod stock) and some quality time in the machine shop.

    May not look fancy, but it works wonderfully for holding pans and cutting boards and racks and the like.

    Edit: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h272/dmsilev/DSC_0101.jpg

  2. 2.

    quaker in a basement

    July 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Try Grainger?

  3. 3.

    lamh34

    July 26, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Ok, I’m admitting my ignorance here, what is a baker’s rack?

  4. 4.

    The Dangerman

    July 26, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Fascinating pair of articles; this one places the blame squarely on the House (and rightfully so, of course), and this one, a link from the previous, should scare the shit out of you. Some of these dumb fuckers apparently really do want to burn it down, figuring that something better will come from the smoking crater where we will find ourselves.

    I truly did pick a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

  5. 5.

    MikeJ

    July 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    I was at the DMV today. There’s a guy leaning on the unstaffed info desk when I approach it to take a number. he says, here, take one that somebody left behind. I tool it, but alone took a fresh number from the machine. No harm in it, right, and the previously used number may have already been called.

    The guy becomes indignant. “You’re calling me a liar!” I responded that no, I wasn’t calling him a liar, I was calling him stupid.

    As I was leaving he made a point of approaching me and said he was trying to be nice, and therefore he had “won”.

  6. 6.

    Joel

    July 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    A: Restaurant supply store

    barring that, IKEA tends to have stuff like that.

  7. 7.

    MikeJ

    July 26, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    @quaker in a basement:

    Try Grainger?

    Wingardium leviosa!

  8. 8.

    lamh34

    July 26, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Boehner’s Boners

    by BooMan

    Speaker Boehner is hilariously incompetent. He’s trying to round up votes from his raucous caucus and he’s screwing everything up. First he got kneecapped by the Club for Growth and the National Taxpayers Union. Then he got caught trying to punk his caucus with a misleading PowerPoint presentation. And now the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office has given a crappy score to his bill that shows it would save a mere $850 billion over the next decade. He’s making George W. Bush look like an able administrator. I’m sure the Tea Party appreciates his efforts to pull the wool over their eyes.

  9. 9.

    opal

    July 26, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    WTF is aged iron?

    Sounds French to me.

  10. 10.

    DarrenG

    July 26, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    A: Restaurant supply store

    This.

    Also good for stock pots, sheet pans, and such. Much cheaper, sturdier stuff than consumer-grade.

  11. 11.

    eric

    July 26, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Sen. Mike Lee is Demanding Constitution be Rewritten to Pass Debt Limit

    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/chris-matthews-slams-sen-mike-lee-demandin

  12. 12.

    Keith

    July 26, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find a simple, solid, plain baker’s rack?

    Grocery stores usually have a lot of female bakers (although in fairness, the bakers there tend to have large, floppy racks, which is not what you are looking for…yet)

  13. 13.

    jeffreyw

    July 26, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Dinner is served.

  14. 14.

    JCT

    July 26, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Sometimes it is worth your time and scratch to find a local craftsman and have something made for you.

    I’ve wasted tons of time trying to find the “right” simple piece of furniture…

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    July 26, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    @lamh34: It’s even better than that. According to TPM’s coverage, the CBO scored Boehner’s plan as cutting the deficit for next year by all of one billion dollars. On the scale of the national budget, that’s a rounding error. Accordingly, Boehner’s staff is frantically trying to rewrite the bill to more properly appease the nutjobs.

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    July 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    Some of these dumb fuckers apparently really do want to burn it down, figuring that something better will come from the smoking crater where we will find ourselves.

    Which is sort of like starting your home remodeling project by setting your living room on fire in the belief this will clear out space to redecorate. It theoretically might work, but only an idiot or crazy person would actually try it.

  17. 17.

    Sly

    July 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    @lamh34:
    The Heritage Foundation and FreedomWorks have also piled on.

    Conservates hate Nancy Pelosi because they can only dream of having as effecting a congressional leader. Boehner can’t even keep his people together during a fight that they started. It’s increasingly likely that any plan that will pass will have Harry Reid’s name written all over it, and gets through the House with a united Democratic Caucus and a few Republicans that are scared shitless of what’ll happen to them after a default.

  18. 18.

    jl

    July 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    @3 yeah, me too, I was ignorant and wish I still was. I looked it up, thinking Cole was looking for something to put bread on while it cooled.

    It’s some damned huge useless piece of furniture to hold nic nacks and useless stuff that people are almost certainly better off with out.

    Cole needs to be stocking up on dried beans, jerky, hard tack, a water purifier, non hyrbrid seeds, and gold suitable for daily transactions. And guns and ammo. One of the survival heat tents things.

    But he is too busy looking for bakers racks, and armoires, and bergers, and canapes and dingbats, and pooftons and wasteys du spaces vastes, and whatnot.

    Cripes.

    Edit: Cole, hey, those things collect DUST. Did you know that? They collect dust. Dirty dirty things to have in the house. (maybe that will bring him to his senses).

  19. 19.

    MikeJ

    July 26, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    @dmsilev:

    CBO scored Boehner’s plan as cutting the deficit for next year by all of one billion dollars. On the scale of the national budget, that’s a rounding error. Accordingly, Boehner’s staff is frantically trying to rewrite the bill to more properly appease the nutjobs.

    And had it actually passed we would have heard from “our” side that it was the worstest thing ever in the history of the world, even when he was being self punked.

  20. 20.

    LarryB

    July 26, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    John,

    Canvas your friends and relatives for broken toaster ovens and scavenge the wire shelves from same. They make great cooling racks.

    Larry

  21. 21.

    nellcote

    July 26, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Why don’t you shop at restaurant supply houses? That stuff is actually designed to be functional.

  22. 22.

    KB

    July 26, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    This shows up at Home Depot online. Looks like a less expensive version of what is found in restaurant kitchens. Claims to hold 3600 pounds, though, so it might be reasonably strong.

    http://tinyurl.com/6yqpxb3

    I don’t own one, so YYMV.

  23. 23.

    RandyH

    July 26, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Here’s a Restaurant Supply Store Online that has a brick-and-mortar store near me. They’ve got everything a restaurant or bakery would need. But I don’t know if that’s what you’re really looking for.

  24. 24.

    The Dangerman

    July 26, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    It theoretically might work, but only an idiot or crazy person would actually try it.

    It’s probably closer to redecorating by taking an axe to the house, hoping that one can stack the resultant pieces into something nicer.

    Insane is being kind. Surely, the Republicans have some adults remaining. Right?

  25. 25.

    Pauline

    July 26, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    I haven’t been here in a while. It is SO GOOD to read the tone in these current posts. Thanks!

  26. 26.

    opal

    July 26, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    I’m not feeling it this time.

    Cabbage freaks me out. I’m not sure why.

  27. 27.

    FlipYrWhig

    July 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    @ MikeJ:

    And had it actually passed we would have heard from “our” side that it was the worstest thing ever in the history of the world, even when he was being self punked.

    Anything that can be called a cut, over any time frame, makes Baby Flying Spaghetti Monster cry.

  28. 28.

    jl

    July 26, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    @13 I’ll take it. I love that stuff (if it’s corn beef and cabbage).

    Edit: and if Cole is looking for a bakery cooling rack, my apologies. That is sensible useful item. When I goggled ‘baker’s rack’ I saw pictures of monstrous space wasters.

    Get some U-haul boxes, book size, and stack those suckers up, and throw stuff in there. That’s what you do. If you don’t use anything in a couple of years, you just fold the lids down, and give it away. Very modular and efficient system.

  29. 29.

    Bex

    July 26, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Metro Shelving. Google it.

  30. 30.

    lamh34

    July 26, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    So wait, TPM reporting that Boehner’s office are “rewriting” the bill. What?? Boner really is a joke isn’t he. So they’ve scuttled the voter that was “scheduled” for tomorrow and they are gonna what, find how many more cuts that they couldn’t even find before in oh what 2 days??? How the heck did Boehner get the job a speaker anyway? Say what you will about Nancy Smash, but she held her caucus together…period!

  31. 31.

    jl

    July 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    @24 The Dangerman

    ” It’s probably closer to redecorating by taking an axe to the house, hoping that one can stack the resultant pieces into something nicer. ”

    Interesting idea. Maybe the GOP has been infiltrated by punk dadaists, and it’s performance art.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Merzbau.jpg

  32. 32.

    lamh34

    July 26, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Oy vey what the hell will it take for MSNBC to get rid of Pat Buchkkkanan? I’m seriously thinking “Uncle PatKKK” could out right call the POTUS a n*&(ger and MSNBC would still keep the racist bigotted old piece of shit.

    Pat Buchanan: Norwegian Right-Wing Terrorist ‘Breivik May Be Right’

  33. 33.

    pseudonymous in nc

    July 26, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    nthing restaurant supply for function over form. Though this one follows the classic design.

  34. 34.

    jo6pac

    July 26, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I have one but it’s 8′ long 6′ high 4′ wide and in Calif.
    Sorry

  35. 35.

    jo6pac

    July 26, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Oh sorry look for wooden ones with metal shelves this what my Baker friend used in his bakery

  36. 36.

    adhgvfth

    July 26, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    A simple bakers rack (without the French look) can be found on Ebay.

  37. 37.

    John Cole

    July 26, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    @pseudonymous in nc: It’s like you read my mind. That is EXACTLY what I want.

  38. 38.

    jl

    July 26, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    @37 OK, that one’s sensible. I take back my ranting. I was rash. In a bad mood. My country’s going crazy and it is wearing on me.

  39. 39.

    debg

    July 26, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    While I hate to further Walmart’s agenda, they’ve got a simple black baker’s rack in my local store for about $70.

  40. 40.

    Mike S

    July 26, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    COSTCO

  41. 41.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    July 26, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I have a boat load of bakers racks cause I am a hoarder. I get mine from thrift stores cause people buy them then don;t use them. The latest addition is one in the bathroom, stacked to the gills with body wash, TP, shampoo, and toothpaste. Us extreme couponers are going to be the winners in this whole meltdown.

  42. 42.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 26, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Somebody (Will Rogers? Twain? Mencken?) once said something to the effect that “I have never actively wished for a man’s death, but there are obituaries I have read with unalloyed pleasure.”

    GA state legislator Bobby Franklin died was found dead today.

    The one who introduces a punitive anti abortion bill at the start of every legislative session.

    The one who wants the government to get out of the driver’s license business.

    The one who attempted to make having a miscarriage a felony crime.

    Yeah, that Bobby Franklin.

  43. 43.

    TooManyJens

    July 26, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    @jl:

    Cole needs to be stocking up on dried beans, jerky, hard tack, a water purifier, non hyrbrid seeds, and gold suitable for daily transactions.

    That reminds me — the staffer we met with at my congressman’s office today, when pressed on the question of where the money to pay our debts would come from if the debt ceiling wasn’t raised, said, “Well, we have $700 billion in gold in the reserves …”

    He tried to walk it back, but apparently this is the kind of thinking that goes on in the office of someone who was previously considered a “moderate” Republican.

  44. 44.

    Atticus Dogsbody

    July 26, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    WTF is aged iron?

    Rust.

  45. 45.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    July 26, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    @jl:

    …bakers racks, and armoires, and bergers, and canapes and dingbats, and pooftons and wasteys du spaces vastes, and whatnot.

    Oh, do I wish I could have come up with that! Pooftons? Pooftons!! But of course.

    BSoSR +2

  46. 46.

    Jennifer

    July 26, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Cole – here is your baker’s rack. Straightfoward, solid, functional, with none of the scrolly crap and reasonably priced.

  47. 47.

    Anne Laurie

    July 26, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Cole, if you don’t want to pay shipping charges, try Target. (The model second from the left on the second row has worked very well for us.) If you’re actually planning to use it in your kitchen, I recommend a model with a solid (wooden or metal) counter, because it’s frustrating to juggle spice jars, chopped veggies or small blender attachments and keep them from droppping through a wire shelf. Of course, you may not plan to use the counter, but when you’re in the middle of a cooking project that’s taken over every other square inch of counter space is the worst time to find out the cap on the balsamic vinegar drops neatly through the shelving wire, especially if Rosie immediately grabs it & runs away.

    (I like the concept of Cooking.com, but it seems like they double the price of everything, possibly on the grounds that people who’ve been searching frantically for simple, functional kitchen goods will be too overjoyed to price-check.)

  48. 48.

    Samara Morgan

    July 26, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    not hard.
    traditional?

  49. 49.

    MonkeyBoy

    July 26, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    If anybody is going to use open wire shelving in their kitchen I first insist that they have an adequate range exhaust hood that runs whenever cooking that contains any fat occurs. Without such an exhaust a fine varnish of grease builds up on everything exposed in the kitchen and I would think that a wire mesh rack would be about the most difficult thing to clean.

  50. 50.

    Abby

    July 26, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    i ENDED UP WITH A METAL RACK FROM THE HARDWARE STORE, 5 SHELVES, GOOD WIRE FOR 40.00 BUCKAROOS. AS YOU CAN SEE I’M NOT FRENCH.

  51. 51.

    Jo Hunt

    July 26, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Craigslist – look in your area, they come up ALL the time….nice ones….

  52. 52.

    keestadoll

    July 27, 2011 at 1:13 am

    John–the rack psedonymous posted looks EXACTLY like one I just saw in COSTCO today. They do online ordering, ps.

  53. 53.

    JG

    July 27, 2011 at 1:34 am

    I use a basic Ikea shelf – unfinished pine (you could pretty it up if you want). I have put in nails and screws of various kinds off of all sides of it to hang loops of twine with measuring cups, cookie cutters, various utensils, etc. I rigged up one up side with a metal grate-like rack to use S-hooks on to hang other gadgets, small saucepans, and frying pans.

    It cost me $39 I think….and I don’t care if it gets a bit wounded, it holds EVERYTHING, it’s sturdy, etc. etc. It is from the GORM line at Ikea…lots of things to mix and match, several different heights, anyone can put it together.

    Or with a drill, and handful of hardware, and a small bit of lumber you can make your own and attach metal grids, shelves, racks, etc. to make it custom.

  54. 54.

    meander

    July 27, 2011 at 2:18 am

    The products from InterMetro recommended by Bex and pseudonymous in nc above are great. Not only are they well built, but they are modular, flexible and expandable. I bought enough for two shelving units a decade ago at The Container Store in the DC suburbs, used them in two place in my apartment there. Then they went into the garage for a few years until I did a major rearrangement of the kitchen which included making those two separate units into one long unit that holds many of my dry goods, my mixer, food processor, a bunch of pots, and so forth. And when I move, I could divide it into two or three units.

    If you get tired of its service as a baker’s rack, perhaps with a few more shelves and poles and what not you could make a new cage for Rosie or a playland for Tunch.

    They might have the equipment at industrial shops too like Grainger, as many small warehouses use Metro shelving.

  55. 55.

    paul Thomas

    July 27, 2011 at 2:21 am

    If I was going to build a rack type shelf of any type, I’d use Metro shelving.

    http://www.containerstore.com/shop/shelving/metroregCommercial

    I use a small Metro set like this as a media shelf. Nice looking, solid, portable ( they can be equipped with casters).

  56. 56.

    AAA Bonds

    July 27, 2011 at 5:25 am

    I used to age iron for a living, actually. You’d be surprised how it works!

  57. 57.

    Paul in KY

    July 27, 2011 at 10:03 am

    All iron is by definition older than our solar system (since the only way iron can be made is in the core of a supergiant star getting ready to go supernova), thus ‘aged iron’ is a bullshit marketing term.

  58. 58.

    Cindy

    July 27, 2011 at 10:46 am

    i got mine from bakersracks.com. they have a good variety and often have free shipping. usually some assembly is required, but it’s not difficult.

  59. 59.

    x

    July 27, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    I got a Stainless Steel BR from Target. Its sturdy enough, light enough, & IIRC, cost maybe $150.

  60. 60.

    pseudonymous in nc

    July 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    I was actually thinking about the Container Store’s commercial-looking line, except that I couldn’t remember its brand name, and got stuck in Elfa closet configurators. Turns out it’s InterMetro too. Definitely agree, though, that chrome mesh shelving needs to be in a well-vented area: it’s a grease magnet, and plastic-coated mesh is even worse.

    IKEA has a cheap commercial-looking line (OMAR), though not in a bakers’ rack config, and I wouldn’t bet on its sturdiness.

  61. 61.

    terry chay

    July 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    I got one, years ago, from (ironically) Sur La Table. (No b.s. crap. Just a cheap folding stainless steel rack that gives about a half inch underneath for airflow). I think you can get them (and other things) from King Arthur Flour. If you don’t have their catalog yet, John, you should do so immediately.

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