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by John Cole|  July 29, 20115:35 pm| 175 Comments

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Hot as hell today, I was on the road and stuck in construction for an hour, and my car AC is broken. I need someone to drive me around for a week so I can hang my right arm out the window and even out my tan.

Making crab cakes and drinking wine in 5… 4… 3… 2…

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  1. 1.

    Joel

    July 29, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    got funded and started drinking around noon today..

  2. 2.

    Tom Hilton

    July 29, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    I need someone to drive me around for a week so I can hang my left arm out the window and even out my tan.

    Have you been driving in the UK?

  3. 3.

    Hugh

    July 29, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Yes. I think you mean right arm.

  4. 4.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    July 29, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Boner is speakin and there are a good number of boo’s. He’s toast!

  5. 5.

    jeffreyw

    July 29, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Mini corn crop

  6. 6.

    eemom

    July 29, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    my car’s a/c is busted too. sux.

  7. 7.

    lamh34

    July 29, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    y is boner live on my tv right now??? I’m gonna continue to watch “Despicable Me” instead.

    Anyone hear anything about “Cowboys and Aliens”. I might go see it this weekend. Even though I can glean from the title that it involves…I still kinda confused what the plot actually is about?

  8. 8.

    Sir Nose'D

    July 29, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Is it just me? When you look at the Tea Party Caucus and their attitude towards the government, are you reminded of Frito’s attitude towards his car in Idiocracy?

    Cole, you crack me up daily.

  9. 9.

    13th Generation

    July 29, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Nice of you to show up.

    Do you even own this blog anymore?

  10. 10.

    tomvox1

    July 29, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    It has come to this…

    Follow me on the shit show fail parade of semi-aborted thoughts that is Twitter. I will buy you some crack. Thanks.

    tomvox1

  11. 11.

    donnah

    July 29, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    It’s hotter than snot here, too. I’m going to sautee some new red potatoes in butter and garlic, mix up some cold cucumbers and sliced onions in vinegar, roast corn on the cob out on the grill, and call it dinner.

  12. 12.

    freelancer

    July 29, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    my car’s a/c is busted too. sux.

    Thirded. and I don’t know wtf is wrong with it. It won’t engage and most places I take it quote as like $60-70 just to diagnose it. So it’s been a summer of rolled down windows.

  13. 13.

    dude

    July 29, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    It’s hot as balls. Al Gore is fat.

  14. 14.

    Teacherboy

    July 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    So John, what kind of crab you you east coasters use? Dungeness out here on the west coast, which is really good but very sweet, so you have to adjust seasonings accordingly. Just curious.

  15. 15.

    Pococurante

    July 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Fallows follows up.

    I think he’s right. Goldberg jumped the gun and made an assumption. But he didn’t do so as part of pre-determined notion that Islam is evil.

    Rubin spun propaganda to justify a nasty worldview.

  16. 16.

    Cat Lady

    July 29, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    The Pats have Fat Albert Haynesworth and Chad Ochocinco. We are all Mayans now.

    ETA: The best white wine I’ve had in a long time is from TJ’s –
    Chateau des Cleons Muscadet Sevre et Maine Sur Lie $6.99. Perfect.

  17. 17.

    sven

    July 29, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    CNN asked seven ‘prominent former leaders’ for advice on how to end the current debt standoff.

    The breakdown:

    5 former republican congressmen
    1 former democratic congressman
    1 former staffer, now at CAP

    The former democratic congressman is…. Arlen Specter!

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/29/elders.debt.crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

  18. 18.

    MikeBoyScout

    July 29, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    John,
    I refuse to drive you around until you pass a balanced tanning amendment to your tan plan. This tanning deficit makes you just like a Greek driver. :-o

  19. 19.

    beltane

    July 29, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): Is Boehner being booed by teabaggers or by normal people?

  20. 20.

    RossinDetroit

    July 29, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    It was hot as hell here today and had rained for 12 hours, clearing up this morning. At 3:00 am the lightning was so intense it was painfully bright with the curtains drawn. People are all “WOW” on FB about it.
    Arriving at work I found that a roof drain had backed up into a drinking fountain and geysered gallons of filth all over a hallway and its furniture. Fun times.
    After cleaning that up we varnished floors all day in the 90+ heat and 90+ humidity. By quitting time everyone was staggering around crosseyed and walking into walls.
    Hello, weekend!

  21. 21.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    FOOTBALL!!

  22. 22.

    13th Generation

    July 29, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    You’re just getting started, aren’t you?

  23. 23.

    D-Chance.

    July 29, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Today’s high of 99 breaks the local string of 31 consecutive 100+ degree days.

  24. 24.

    Thoughtcrime

    July 29, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    John, you could go for this look instead:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/STLastBattle.jpg

  25. 25.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    July 29, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    The best white wine I’ve had in a long time is from TJ’s – Chateau des Cleons Muscadet Sevre et Maine Sur Lie $6.99. Perfect.

    Hey, we tried that last week! I agree, damn good.

    I’m making the traditional turkey chili, homegrown salad, and peach pie for Shabbat dinner. Prolly have a nice Zinfandel with it.

  26. 26.

    eemom

    July 29, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    I have an idea. Maybe we could negotiate a deal with the Chinese if we default whereby they could foreclose on the US Capitol and its occupants. They could sell the former at auction and export the latter as free labor. We could throw in the press corpse too. Win-win.

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    The Pats have Fat Albert Haynesworth and Chad Ochocinco. We are all Mayans now.

    And the Texans got Danieal Manning from da Bears!

    And resigned speedster Jacoby Jones!

  28. 28.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Where the F is Midnight Marauder when we’ve got something to agree on?!

  29. 29.

    Joseph Nobles

    July 29, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Looks like it’s T-minus 33 minutes and counting until Boehner is cracking open the Scotch bottle.

  30. 30.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    @13th Generation: Oh, it’s gonna get ugly up in this piece.

  31. 31.

    Jules

    July 29, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    This is probably so wrong but I WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE BBC iPlayer.
    I desire this above all of the needs I have right now.
    But I live in the US and trying to pick out something to use has given me a headache.
    Anyone got a good hint on doing something that might be illegal?

  32. 32.

    RossinDetroit

    July 29, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Regarding tanning in the car: Americans get more melanomas on the left side of the body and English get more on the right side. Melanoma is nasty stuff. Roll up the window & get the AC fixed.

  33. 33.

    BGinCHI

    July 29, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    EPL season starting soon.

    Go you reds!

    Yes, real football, people.

    Also, Windows sucks.

    Did I leave anything out?

  34. 34.

    Martin

    July 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Cole drives upside-down. That’s how they do it in banjo country. Either that or Tunch was driving and Cole riding shotgun.

  35. 35.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Spent the day dragging carloads of shit to my new place. Rented a truck for tomorrow and have people coming to help with the heavy things. Moving sucks. Moving sucks even more when you didn’t want to do it, but have to anyway. Oh yeah, and my birthday is the day after debt-ceiling-mageddon, so there is a reasonable possibility that it will suck.

    Yes, I am cranky because I will probably drag two more car loads of stuff across town this evening.

  36. 36.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Final vote on the GOP House debt plan coming up in maybe 10 minutes. They are just now wrapping up a procedural vote on that bill [but I don’t understand what the deal is].

  37. 37.

    Lojasmo

    July 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    I don’t know how hot it is here, and am not gonna look. About to undertake an epic drive back to my home town (four hours) with my busted-ass AC. Will have to stop in saint paul for a couple ales just to make the second two-thirds tolerable.

  38. 38.

    freelancer

    July 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Regarding tanning in the car: Americans get more melanomas on the left side of the body and English get more on the right side. Melanoma is nasty stuff. Roll up the window & get the AC fixed

    Too late, I already look like Harvey Dent.

  39. 39.

    Cat Lady

    July 29, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    The Pats/Jets is the new Red Sox/Yankees. The Jets have a giant hard on for Nnamdi Asomugha, so it’s an arms race sprint to kickoff. Wheeeeeeee!

  40. 40.

    Brachiator

    July 29, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Tears in Norway.

    ‘One week since Norway was hit by evil’: Memorial service honours Anders Breivik’s 76 victims as tears flow at first funeral; 18-year-old girl Bano Rashid is laid to rest in local church

    A red rose for a sweet soul.

  41. 41.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 29, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yes, I am cranky because I will probably drag two more car loads of stuff across town this evening.

    You’re just tired, OO.

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Man, trying to read the NFL Free Agency wire is like being jacked straight into a brain with bi-polar disorder.

  43. 43.

    BGinCHI

    July 29, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    OO, if you’d offered unlimited New Glarus ahead of time, I could have had a whole crew up there to help you.

    You gotta plan these things.

  44. 44.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    The Jets have a giant hard on for Nnamdi Asomugha

    Based on the name alone I’m kinda horny for the guy too.

  45. 45.

    beltane

    July 29, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    @eemom: Heck, we should just through in the Washington press corps as a gift. Or even pay the Chinese to remove them for us in the same way they take and recycle the toxic parts of all our old electronic equipment.

  46. 46.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    July 29, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    @beltane:

    Is Boehner being booed by teabaggers or by normal people vanilla GOP types?

    I wondered the same thing. Won’t get out of the boat to check, though. Too tough a week here.

  47. 47.

    Cat Lady

    July 29, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Corner Stone: It should be like this every year. Intensity – the NFL haz it!

  48. 48.

    jwb

    July 29, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    I’m liking the option of minting large denomination platinum coins. VSPs aren’t liking it, so that means Obama probably won’t go there, but Brad DeLong seems to have signed on and Krugman didn’t utterly dismiss the idea.

  49. 49.

    RossinDetroit

    July 29, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Josh Marshall is really fed up:

    Watch One Of The Most Pointless Exercises In House History … Live

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    @ BGinCHI:

    To be honest, this is something that I have been dreading. It is one more step in making the separation between Mme Omnibus and I permanent. Planning ahead hasn’t really been in the cards on any of this.

  51. 51.

    MBunge

    July 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    I don’t quite understand why so many folks seem to think that there’s a clear way forward on the debt limit now. The idea seems to be that there can be some sort of compromise between the Reid and Boehner plans that will cobble together just enough votes Dem and Rep votes in Congress to pass. But the House GOP has made it a principle to ONLY pass legislation with GOP votes. If they can’t pass a bill with ONLY Republicans, they don’t pass it. Why would that change now and who among the House GOP would sign up to vote for something endorsed by President Obama?

    Mike

  52. 52.

    KXB

    July 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    On the upside, it is payday. On the downside, I hardly get to keep any of it after paying off bills.

  53. 53.

    MikeJ

    July 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    @Jules: Jules, why would it be illegal for you to watch stuff on a web site?

    It might violate a contract that the BBC has signed for them to let you, but *you* haven’t signed any contract have you?

    Anyway, you need to find an open proxy server that is in the UK.

  54. 54.

    Lolis

    July 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Looks to me like Dems are defeating themselves again. Obama says he will pass a 2 day extension in order to negotiate a deal between Boehner’s plan and Reid’s plan. I don’t get why Senate Dems are not trying to pass a better plan right now. Dems really are not fighting to achieve any liberal gains here. No stimulus, no revenues, it is total shit. The only good thing is no Social Security and Medicare cuts that harm beneficiaries. Stuff like that should have been excluded anyway. This whole thing stinks.

    And I have been someone who thought there may be some chess playing on Obama’s side. I no longer think that. We are getting fucked by our own party who don’t seem to care about the horrible economic numbers everywhere.

  55. 55.

    Bnut

    July 29, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Did a little research today, I can’t believe I don’t have to register my guns in Tennessee unless I want a carry permit. I mean, NYC was a colossal PITA when it came to my firearms, but no registration at all? Sort of made me cringe.

  56. 56.

    WereBear

    July 29, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Once drove to Gettysburg, during a heat wave, in truck routes, busted a/c.

    Don’t ever want to do it again.

  57. 57.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Watch One Of The Most Pointless Exercises In House History … Live

    That is likely true on earth, but on Planet Wingnut It’s “Let’s Run Around In a Chicken Suit Day” and praise be, the dildos have arrived, finally.

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    @ Werebear: I lived in central Ohio for a few years with an old VW Rabbit that did not have a/c. Not fun.

  59. 59.

    Three-nineteen

    July 29, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    @Pococurante #16: I’m not so sure. Here’s what Fallows said in response to Rubin’s artcle: “No, this is a sobering reminder for those who think it’s too tedious to reserve judgment about horrifying events rather than instantly turning them into talking points for pre-conceived views.”

    This is a sentence from Goldberg’s article: “I know that this sort of statement sounds too Bushian for some people, but I tend to think that many hardcore jihadists — i.e. ones who are willing to murder innocent people — develop a deep desire to murder infidels, and only then go looking for specific places to do this murder, and only then gin-up weak rationalizations for the murder.”

    This is what Fallows says about why Goldberg’s article is better than Rubin’s: “Also, while he said in his first item that he hoped the event would not drive Norway out of Afghanistan, he was not using his assumptions about the event to attack people he disagreed with, unlike the Post column.”

    Is Goldberg turning horrifying events into talking points for pre-conceived views? I guess it depends on what Goldberg means when he says “jihadists”.

  60. 60.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    July 29, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m sorry. It sounds like you’ve had a rough time. Glad to see you back here.

  61. 61.

    Randiego

    July 29, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    So the Teatards think they can blackmail two houses of Congress into voting 2/3 to pass a BBA? They really have a warped sense of reality.

    I’m in California and convinced that the Republicans know their only way of controlling the country once they keep declining in numbers is to get enough 2/3 super majority requirements into law as soon as they can. They’ve f’d up CA so bad it’s depressing.

  62. 62.

    scav

    July 29, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    @WereBear: from New Oxford or Phoenix? Just for curiosity’s sake, you understand, I don’t doubt the resulting emotion, although there’d have to be a hell of wave to make the first option that tramatic.

  63. 63.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    I am okay. Just tired and cranky from moving things on my own.

  64. 64.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    I love Nancy Smash, and I don’t care who knows it.

  65. 65.

    Cat Lady

    July 29, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    @Comrade Collette Collaboratrice:

    Somehow this wine is less oaky than Chardonnay, less sour than Sauvignon Blanc, and less flinty and not quite as dry as Chablis. LOVE.

  66. 66.

    sixers

    July 29, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    The Eagles are now the best team in Pennsylvania.

  67. 67.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 29, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    It looks like Boehner’s bill is going to pass. FWIW.

    So now what? The action moves to the Senate?

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Omnes –

    I’m sorry, too. Last I heard Mme Omnes was going to quit her job and go to school in NY, but I didn’t have the impression that it was necessarily a permanent thing. That really sucks, I am so sorry.

  69. 69.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Well, looks like they passed the “Save Boner’s Ass” bill, that now can be euthanized by the senate, before the fine print is read bringing back gladiator fighting in very tight uniforms.

  70. 70.

    OzoneR

    July 29, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    . I don’t get why Senate Dems are not trying to pass a better plan right now.

    Because it would be deader than Boehner’s bill.

  71. 71.

    jl

    July 29, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Weird thing is that that if one believes in easily interpretable daily market signals (I don’t, BTW), place to go right now is treasuries. The calmest market.

  72. 72.

    Seebach

    July 29, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    So Boner got passed. Now what?

  73. 73.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    I don’t get why Senate Dems are not trying to pass a better plan right now

    Senate Rules. Reid files for cloture today, so they can vote on a bill late Sunday night, after 30 hours of debate, and whatever amendments get passed. And that will likely be the last piece of legislation before the defaulting begins, and then we will get to see how much national pain is needed to satisfy the tea party appetite for destruction. Then some kind of maybe voice vote clean bill, or hybrid Reid/Boehner bill, gets through the House to stop this madness.

  74. 74.

    Cat Lady

    July 29, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Not getting out of the boat for Boner. Did any Democrat vote for that abomination?

  75. 75.

    PurpleGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Yahoo News Alert: The House passed a GOP bill to raise the debt ceiling. No details there.

    NY Times says it’s Boehner’s plan, 218 to 210.

  76. 76.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    @ WaterGirl:

    Quitting a PhD program and going to New York to look for a job. I blame every movie or TV show that ever made NYC look glamorous. She was desperately unhappy in the PhD program, it spilled over into other aspects of life, and, despite my best efforts, there wasn’t anything I could really do to fix things. As far as permanent goes, who knows? I am trying to look on it as a good 7, almost 8, years together with a lot of great experiences and memories. Thanks for the sympathy. I really am okay.

  77. 77.

    Head Bulshytt Talker in Chief of the Temple of Libertarianism(superluminar)

    July 29, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    @O^2
    Sorry to hear that news(#52), hope you ok dude.

  78. 78.

    L. Ron Obama

    July 29, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    @Cat Lady: TPM says no democrats voted for it

  79. 79.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    @ Seebach:

    Now what?

    The Senate leaves it out on a hillside to die like the abomination it is. Then things get interesting (in the Chinese curse way).

  80. 80.

    geg6

    July 29, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Overheard an interesting conversation while at the urologist with my John. 4-5 people, 3 real Merkin Greatest Generation types, a beefy middle-aged construction worker, and a guy waiting for his grandfather (about 30 or so). Debt ceiling fight came up in conversation. Much disdain for politicians of all stripes, but the unanimous opinion was that Obama wasn’t to blame. I was, I must say, astounded. This is Beaver County, PA where Teahadists brought guns to an Obama/Biden rally the day after the DNC. These are the people who overwhelmingly vote for Blue Dog, Jason Altmire.

  81. 81.

    Linda Featheringill

    July 29, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    Did any Democrat vote for that abomination?

    Not when I left them. I think there were 4 or 5 that hadn’t voted yet. I left when the outcome was certain.

  82. 82.

    PurpleGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Omnes Omnibus: I’m sorry you’re going through a relationship breakup. I hope things work out for you.

    I can understand quitting a Ph.D. program, but did she do any research on the NYC job market? I love my city, but I wouldn’t encourage anyone to move here unless they’ve visited and have researched a whole lot of things about the place.

  83. 83.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    @Seebach: Reid just needed a vessel to get his dance on.
    Now that he’s got it, he will start crumpin’.

  84. 84.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    “Don’t paint me…”

  85. 85.

    gene108

    July 29, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    I believe a large percentage of Americans no longer believe America can be governed.

    They aren’t mad at Republicans, because they’ve just given up.

    Given the Republican’s relentless investigations of the Clinton Administration, the poop-heap that was Bush, Jr.’s Admin and the 2000 election fiasco, the Republican obstructionism of the 111th Congress and now this Congress crap, I think too many people don’t understand what a functioning, good, government is supposed to be like.

    I don’t mean it has to be liberal or conservative, but as recently as the 1980’s, the President set an agenda and Congress worked with him to come to acceptable compromises.

    Now nothing gets done, unless Republicans get everything they want and it’s passed off like business as usual.

  86. 86.

    Cat Lady

    July 29, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Up is Down. Democrats stand united, GOP in disarray. This is some kind of interesting I’m not grokking yet, but without a doubt, it’s Interesting.

  87. 87.

    gwangung

    July 29, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    gene108: Public’s too dim to find the connecting thread.

  88. 88.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    And for the geniuses that have been saying there was already a deal that would be sprung at the last minute before next Tuesday — I have a extra box of purple plastic Unicorns you can have free with 99 dollars shipping and handling.

  89. 89.

    jwb

    July 29, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Cat Lady: This hasn’t been good for anyone involved. Gallup’s poll on Obama’s approval rating hit an all-time low today. Hopefully, it’s just an outlier, but the gooper crash and burn seems to be having the desired effect of taking the President down with them.

  90. 90.

    JPL

    July 29, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Omnes Omnibus, I’m probably not alone in wishing that I could bring over a six pack and help you load your car. Take care.

  91. 91.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Not getting out of the boat for Boner. Did any Democrat vote for that abomination?

    No Democrats were idiots in the passing of this bill.

    Overheard an interesting conversation while at the urologist with my John.

    I’m sorry, but that’s just funny. It is.

  92. 92.

    Trurl

    July 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    This hasn’t been good for anyone involved. Gallup’s poll on Obama’s approval rating hit an all-time low today.

    Jane Hamsher… that fucking bitch!

  93. 93.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    jwb

    If it was winter, it would be all kinds of cool if Obama brought back fireside chats every few days to remind people that republicans did this to them. Maybe sit in a wheel chair and puff a cancer stick and give us history lessons of The Great Depression. A black FDR, that would fuck up their empty heads.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    @General Stuck:

    And for the geniuses that have been saying there was already a deal that would be sprung at the last minute before next Tuesday

    What do you think just happened you moran?

  95. 95.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    @ PurpleGirl:

    No research. She has a friend who she is staying with who told her that with her MBA and a year of a PhD she should be able to land a good position within a month. I pointed out some realities, but the idea was already fixed in her head. I don’t really think she knows what she is doing; because of this, I am still keeping the door open for a reconciliation for a while – she was unhappy, panicked and fled – sometimes the people we love do dumb things. I think quitting the PhD was the right thing to do for her. She was doing good quality work but it took all of her energy and time.

    As far as things working out for me goes, since I am not the kind of person who would cheat on a spouse, I will now be free to have sex with as many women as are willing to have sex with me. Also, I can keep the apartment cold like homes are supposed to be.

  96. 96.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Omnes: Even when we’re okay, long-term relationships breakups suck donkey dongs. Accept the verbal chocolate-chip cookies we’re offering you. :)

  97. 97.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    @Trurl:

    This hasn’t been good for anyone involved. Gallup’s poll on Obama’s approval rating hit an all-time low today.
    __
    Jane Hamsher… that fucking bitch!

    Seconded. Bitch.

  98. 98.

    jwb

    July 29, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Corner Stone: Worst Kabuki show ever. Just saying.

  99. 99.

    Cris (without an H)

    July 29, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    13th Generation:

    Nice of you to show up.
    Do you even own this blog anymore?

    Of course he does. If anybody else owned it, they would have fixed the Reply button by now.

  100. 100.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I will now be free to have sex with as many women as are willing to have sex with me

    Damn. Sorry to hear that.
    :-)

  101. 101.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    What do you think just happened you moran?

    LOLwut? Why don’t you explain it to us big brain, how what happened with the House passing, cut, can, crap again and is anything like a deal that can become law. This ought to be interesting./

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 29, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Martin – July 29, 2011 | 6:01 pm · Link

    Either that or Tunch was driving and Cole riding shotgun.

    I’m having fun picturing the offspring of a Tunch-Toonces hookup.

  103. 103.

    Brachiator

    July 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus
    (kinda overhearing)
    I hope everything goes well for you, and for those you care about.

  104. 104.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    @ Corner Stone:

    I presume you are speaking on behalf of the women?

  105. 105.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    What do you think just happened you moran?

    I think Obama hasn’t been playing brilliant 11th-dimensional chess gaming the GOP AND the bill that just passed isn’t a neat part of an elaborate predetermined deal between the parties/skulking Big Bidness overlords that was planned weeks ago. Both of those things are true at once. Yes, really. It can happen.

  106. 106.

    Handsome Stranger

    July 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Jules: have you tried TunnelBear?

  107. 107.

    SIA

    July 29, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus 6:01 pm – yeah well Happy Birfday anyways

  108. 108.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    @General Stuck: You’re more than kinda stupid Stuck.
    This deal just goes to Reid, He bigfoots it, sends it back to the House and the Democrats vote in some number to pass the compromise and send to Obama for signing.
    Are you really this fucking stupid?

    Reid holds all the cards now. He sends his compromise bill back to Boehner and if Boehner doesn’t put it up for a vote then the entire crash is on his balls.
    He’s gonna put it up for a vote, Nancy Smash will tell some of her peeps to vote Yay, it will pass.
    Boehner is done but the default is avoided.
    Are you really this fucking stupid?

  109. 109.

    PurpleGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Omnes Omnibus: Sounds like you’ve thought things out pretty well. Be well.

  110. 110.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    After what we have seen the last couple of days, someone will have to explain it to me how anything sane has any chance of getting past the tea tards before Monday. Does anyone really think Boehner has it in him to bring a clean bill to pass with dem votes? And that this thing is going to get resolved before the buzzer on August 2 and a degree of pain and chaos. Maybe I am missing something, which wouldn’t be the first time.

  111. 111.

    Kristine

    July 29, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Temps moderated here in NE Illinois. 80s and lower %RH, with a bit of a lake breeze. Long day at work. Out on the deck now. Pasta pesto for dinner. Nursing a glass of red. I’m so happy it’s Friday I can’t stand it. Trying to avoid the political news because it makes me want to kneecap certain folk with a baseball bat.

  112. 112.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Well, kinda. I guess.
    I was more trying to insult you in that rough, male kinda bonding way. As a divorced male myself, I mean.
    I’d hug you if I were in WI, if that helps.

  113. 113.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    My chocolate-chip cookies seem so pathetic and lame since I accidentally offered them up right under Omnes’ announcement of the People’s Republic of Orgy he’ll now be living in. Well, they’re good after sex, too, maybe the BEST then, so keep them.

  114. 114.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    @General Stuck: The Tea Party is irrelevant now. Those 80+ members have shot their votular wad.
    They have nothing to say about what happens next.

  115. 115.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 29, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    @ Corner Stone:

    I took your point. Also too, thank god you are not in WI.

  116. 116.

    PeakVT

    July 29, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    @sven: That’s ricoculous. Even fucking Harold Ford would be a better representative. At least he’s called himself a Democrat for decades.

    Also, too: while “both sides do it” is false, obviously it would help the discourse by actually presenting both sides, instead of one side and a nominally neutral and thus implicitly “centrist” position.

  117. 117.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    excuse me…squirrel in the flower boxes AAAAIIYYYYEEEEEEEEEEE!

    That worked.

  118. 118.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    @shortstop: This is always what was going to happen.
    And just like all the best pragmatic outcomes we’ve seen in the past, this is the outcome we have so we know by default it is the best possible outcome we could expect.

  119. 119.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Why? I give good hugs.
    Plus, I stand for bar tabs on the regular.

  120. 120.

    SIA

    July 29, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    @ Omnes, WP won’t let me edit, but wanted to add I’m sorry to hear that.

  121. 121.

    lamh34

    July 29, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Watching my guilty pleasure #19181080184038….Mortal Kombat!!!! Love the original videogame and love the original movie!

  122. 122.

    Carrie

    July 29, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Hey Handsome Stranger,
    tell me more about this TunnelBear !
    I also want my BBC.

  123. 123.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    This deal just goes to Reid, He bigfoots it, sends it back to the House and the Democrats vote in some number to pass the compromise and send to Obama for signing.
    Are you really this fucking stupid?

    Reid is not going to use the House bill to amend it. He is going to kill it, and over the weekend, his bill will be subject to unknown amending before it goes to the House on Monday. The senate is not the HOuse, and Reid doesn’t have the control that a House Speaker does. And the dems black caucus, and I think some others have declared they will only vote for a clean bill. It is possible what you claim will happen, I don’t really know one way of the other, and wouldn’t offer a definitive prediction. But there is little time left, and a lot of shit that can go wrong.

    But that is why we have you around Corner Stone, with yer steel trap mind and 80 proof powers of observation. So I bow to your massive cerebral cortex.

  124. 124.

    OzoneR

    July 29, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    what happens when Obama uses the bully pulpit to demand Americans get involved?

    this

    Obama loses more than 30,000 of his 9 million+ Twitter followers in #Compromise campaign aimed at debt deal

    http://mashable.com/2011/07/29/obama-compromise-campaign-stats/#22057Rep-Jim-Renacci-ROH

  125. 125.

    jwb

    July 29, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Corner Stone: President Pangloss?

  126. 126.

    JPL

    July 29, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    shortstop -The squirrels in my yard are climbing up a tree and over the fence and bringing back the neighbors tomatoes to enjoy. They won’t share though.

  127. 127.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Now the neighbor is looking at me funny. What? WHAT?

  128. 128.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    @General Stuck: It doesn’t matter what vehicle Reid uses, he just needed something to pivot off of at this point. CC&B was not it. He’s going to slap together some nasty shit as a compromise bill and it will be sent back to the House.
    Where it will be passed. And President Obama will sign it.

    ETA, it’s going to be an extension bill, with a short term attached. It’s always how it was going to be. There’s no tough talk left on the D side except whatever further kabuki is needed. It will be passed, and signed.

  129. 129.

    TaMara (BHF)

    July 29, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    @geg6 I wish I could tell you I had the same experience today. I had a service tech over to hook up new internet service and he was definitely anti-Obama. Typical fear of a Democrat in power, not anything racial as far as I could tell. We had a nice chat, and was pleased to see we could find common ground in general, but in his eyes, this is all Obama’s fault.

    I did enjoy talking with him though, because it was clear he thought I was cute (always good for the ego) and we were actually able to have an adult conversation that didn’t devolve into Republican talking points. He was genuinely concerned for his country and pessimistic about the future. But didn’t seem to have an us vs. them mentality that I would have expected.

    I wish I was an eloquent enough speaker to convince him that Democrats offered a better path than the current crop of Rethugs….maybe if I’d flashed boobs….

  130. 130.

    lamh34

    July 29, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Via twitter:

    thinkprogress
    Senate expected to vote on Boehner plan within the hour #quickdeath

    TPM Talking Points Memo
    Harry Reid now requesting the presence of all absent senators

  131. 131.

    SIA

    July 29, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    @geg6 6:39 pm, that is surprising and, being as desperate as I am for anything positive in the way of news this week, very good to hear.

  132. 132.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    @OzoneR: Oh noes! one/third of one percent!! 30K out of 9M!!
    Heabenses!

  133. 133.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    @jwb: Yep, the best of all possible worlds.
    That’s what I keep getting told here by all the “centrists”, “independents” and “pragmatists”.

  134. 134.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Corner Stone

    ETA, it’s going to be an extension bill, with a short term attached. It’s always how it was going to be.

    Well, okee dokee there Mr. Peabody, like I said before, this one is above my paygrade to predict between now and next Tuesday, but that’s why Cole pays you the big money. Would you like a sandwich out there on that limb?

  135. 135.

    Killjoy

    July 29, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    I wish I was an eloquent enough speaker to convince him that Democrats offered a better path than the current crop of Rethugs….maybe if I’d flashed boobs….

    *cough* Paul Ryan sure makes a lot of sense. If only someone could convince me otherwise…

  136. 136.

    Handsome Stranger

    July 29, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Carrie:

    http://www.tunnelbear.com/

  137. 137.

    normal liberal

    July 29, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    @jeffreyw: This is a bit frivolous, but did you grow those adorable ears of corn, and if so, what variety are they? I’m planning ahead for next year, since my current garden is annoying me.

  138. 138.

    Emma

    July 29, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    TaMara: those are the dangerous ones. The nice ones who DON’T THINK. Who don’t let facts touch their minds. Everyone can see someone with a knife coming — it’s the smiling nice people who really screw things up.

  139. 139.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Yep, the best of all possible worlds.

    Oh, I didn’t hear anyone say that. I hear a lot of “best compromise possible at this fucking point,” which means something different. Probably just a regionalism thing again.

  140. 140.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    my impression of this clusterfuck, is that nobody involved has a fucking clue of what they are doing. It’s like a game of musical chairs, and whose left standing when the music stops. If they have had a hard baked plan, they sure are playing their fake parts in a realistic way. Way too realistic, considering the stakes. Oh well.

  141. 141.

    TaMara (BHF)

    July 29, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    @139normal liberal: he did and he tells the story here:

    MiniCorn

    (yes, I am blog pimping…I miss having you guys stop by)

  142. 142.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    what happens when Obama uses the bully pulpit to demand Americans get involved?
    …
    this
    …
    Obama loses more than 30,000 of his 9 million+ Twitter followers

    That’s a singularly unimpressive number.

  143. 143.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    @shortstop: They say it all the time. You’re probably outside screaming at squirrels.

  144. 144.

    TaMara (BHF)

    July 29, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Emma: I really do believe if he had someone who could talk with him about his fears and really show him how when Democrats are in office it is better for the middle class, he could be swayed. He just wasn’t radical…it was more that The American President moment when they talk about a thirsty man drinking sand if that’s all that is offered. In all seriousness, I really do wish I had the words to flip him, because it’s clear the fearmongers were doing a job on him.

  145. 145.

    General Stuck

    July 29, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Omnes,

    Sorry about your breakup dude. Now you can throw all your dirty socks on the floor and leave them there till you need them.

  146. 146.

    Carrie

    July 29, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    @ Handsome Fella

    It WORKS! Thank you!

  147. 147.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    July 29, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    @freelancer: Yeah, it’s my second or third summer of rolled down windows. After awhile it’s not a big deal. What the hell, we didn’t have A/C when I grew up and we survived.

    Also, too, get off my lawn!

  148. 148.

    OzoneR

    July 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    That’s a singularly unimpressive number.

    not for a few hours

  149. 149.

    Dennis SGMM

    July 29, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    @General Stuck:
    I’ll take a ham on rye. The latest high-level conservative rationale for a short term increase is that we must, must, must, start cutting entitlements now or we’re all gonna’ die. The only way to force action on entitlements is to make certain that they can hold the debt ceiling hostage in the near future. They’re desperate to avoid having to run on something like the Ryan plan in ’12 so they’ll do whatever it takes to get what they want before then.
    In light of that, it’s difficult to see how any debt ceiling increase that goes past the election will pass the House.

  150. 150.

    Turgidson

    July 29, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Josh Marshall is really fed up:

    Watch One Of The Most Pointless Exercises In House History … Live

    If it was merely pointless, I wouldn’t care. Congress does pointless shit all the time, even when Nancy Smash is in charge.

    But at this point it’s wasting valuable fucking time. It’s like a husband driving his pregnant-and-labor-is-pretty-far-along wife to the hospital and stopping off at fucking Olive Garden.

  151. 151.

    quannlace

    July 29, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    So the Teatards think they can blackmail two houses of Congress into voting 2/3 to pass a BBA? They really have a warped sense of reality.

    Or that they can force Obama to wave his magic wand, like Harry Potter, and instantly make it a new amendment. These people are so bone ignorant of the very basics of the job they were elected to do. But I guess belief trumps facts every time.
    *********************

    Dinner Chez Nous. Drinking Pinot Grigio. A nice poached egg on a bed of lightly dressed arugula. (In this heat can’t believe the arugula hasn’t gone to seed yet; but it’s still producing strong.) On the side, sauteed mushrooms with gnocchi and fresh sage. That’ll do it.
    Tomorrow I think we’ll have our first zuke out of the garden. Tomatoes are all late, even the cherries.

  152. 152.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    They say it all the time.

    Really? People here say they love having no revenue?

    You’re probably outside screaming at squirrels.

    Last night I left the screen open and one came in and started screaming at us. It was the Allen West of the rodent world.

  153. 153.

    RossInDetroit

    July 29, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    excuse me…squirrel in the flower boxes AAAAIIYYYYEEEEEEEEEEE!

    I’ve come to think of my planters as the chipmunk sandbox. Most people plant their flowers in the spring. I re-plant mine every damn day after they’re excavated by the ground squirrels.

    I’m thinking next year I’ll set up a ‘decoy’ planter or two. All soft, inviting tilled earth for them to play in. maybe this will curtail their tunneling activities under the pansies.

  154. 154.

    JCT

    July 29, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Virtual beer your way, guy. BTDT.

  155. 155.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    I’m thinking next year I’ll set up a ‘decoy’ planter or two. All soft, inviting tilled earth for them to play in. maybe this will curtail their tunneling activities under the pansies.

    No will work. I tried it and they considered it their handy bonus playground but still went to town on the flowers and herbs. Like Republicans, the little bastards want 100 percent of everything.

  156. 156.

    RossInDetroit

    July 29, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    No will work. I tried it and they considered it their handy bonus playground but still went to town on the flowers and herbs. Like Republicans, the little bastards want 100 percent of everything.

    Then I’ll have to use brute force. Set the soil level low, cover the planters with 1/4″ mesh screen and make the plants grow through it. I like the chipmunks but they like to DIG.
    It’s been a dry summer and the plant pots are always moist. maybe it’s a water thing.

  157. 157.

    normal liberal

    July 29, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    @TaMara (BHF): Thanks for the link – usually I only get as far as the photos, and then I have to go find something to distract me from trying to replicate the yummy food.

    I wish my tomatoes were as promising as yours sound. If you are overrun with cherry tomatoes, I endorse the roasted ones found here . If I’ve screwed up the link (all too likely), it’s the slow roasted tomatoes with garlic and olive oil at Smitten Kitchen. They freeze well, and do good things added to sauces.

  158. 158.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    @shortstop: Yes shortstop. People here tell all of us all the time that any deal that is reached is the best possible deal that could be reached.
    Over and over and over again.

  159. 159.

    Dennis SGMM

    July 29, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    @quannlace:
    My circa 1965 High School Civics teacher would have flunked these idiots. Within Article 5 of the constitution is the requirement that amendments to the constitution must be ratified by three-quarters of the states. Period.

    This what happens when when people elect pols who stopped reading the constitution at the second amendment.

  160. 160.

    Judas Escargot

    July 29, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    If Tunnelbear and Pedobear had a fight, who would win?

  161. 161.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    People here tell all of us all the time that any deal that is reached is the best possible deal that could be reached.

    Do you understand the difference between these two sentences?

    1. “This is the best possible deal that can be reached.”
    2. “This is the best of all possible worlds.”

    Hint: The first means the best we can do at this time and under these circumstances. The second means that it’s the best thing that could happen under any circumstances, the acme of the apex, the peak of perfection.

    I understand your frustration at what you consider (and what I often agree is) misplaced optimism, but you’re badly mischaracterizing what people are saying here.

  162. 162.

    shortstop

    July 29, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    It’s been a dry summer and the plant pots are always moist. maybe it’s a water thing.

    Someone here (TaMara?) said that it is a water thing, at least when it comes to them biting veggies. She suggested putting a pan of water close to the plants. I keep forgetting to try it — will put one out tonight.

  163. 163.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    @shortstop: Sigh. Don’t tell me what I understand people here are saying. I read the shit they say. I’m not confused in the slightest about what they say here at BJ.

  164. 164.

    quannlace

    July 29, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    said that it is a water thing, at least when it comes to them biting veggies. She s

    I’ve heard that advice too. Along with a pan of water, I toss out a few handfuls of peanuts in the shell. That definitely distracts them from the maters.

  165. 165.

    MaxxLange

    July 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    102 F today, in the Bible Belt. You could fry an egg on the blacktop of the Church parking lot, unless that is forbidden as a form of Divination or Magic

  166. 166.

    WaterGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    @ Omnes Omnibus

    Sometimes there’s just nothing you can do. I took a “when your relationship ends” class one time after the breakup of a really important relationship. One of the things we learned was that often by the time the other person lets you in on what’s going on, they have already been thinking about a change for a year or more, have already made a decision, and have already worked through the emotional separation.

    I don’t know if that’s the case with you guys, but it did help me see that sometimes there’s nothing you can do but work through your own grief and try to move on.

    They made us write a “goodbye” letter where you thank the person for all the good things and then say goodbye. It was up to us whether we shared the letter with our person. I don’t know if you guys are at “goodbye” or just separating while she steps into a new life, but writing that letter was one of the hardest and best things I have ever done. I asked a friend to drop off my letter, and the whole process really helped me move on.

    I’m not sure if any of that is relevant to you, but I thought it might be worth mentioning.

  167. 167.

    WaterGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Omnes –

    Damn, I missed the edit period! Just read your “I will now be free to have sex with as many women as are willing to have sex with me” comment, and I laughed. In a good way. Good to see you looking on the bright side. :-)

  168. 168.

    WaterGirl

    July 29, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    @ TaMara

    You ARE just taking a break for the summer, right? I thought the Thursday nights were coming back in the fall. Right? Right? Please tell me this does not have to be negotiated like the debt ceiling. :-)

    Edit: I see that I am now talking to myself on a dead thread. Oh well.

  169. 169.

    Jules

    July 29, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Handsome Stranger – July 29, 2011 | 6:59 pm · Link

    Jules: have you tried TunnelBear?

    Yeah.
    Could not get it to work on my computer.
    my life sucks.

  170. 170.

    A Humble Lurker

    July 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I’d reconsider that perception.

  171. 171.

    Steeplejack

    July 29, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    @RossinDetroit:

    Arriving at work I found that a roof drain had backed up into a drinking fountain and geysered gallons of filth all over a hallway and its furniture.

    How in the hell does a roof drain back up into a drinking fountain?! What kind of Third World hellhole do you work in?

  172. 172.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @A Humble Lurker: Why jackhole?
    You should stop biting ankles and start laying it out.

  173. 173.

    Corner Stone

    July 29, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    @A Humble Lurker: ETA, fuck you punk bitch.

  174. 174.

    Steeplejack

    July 29, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    @OzoneR:

    Wow, he lost a whole 0.33 percent! How can he stop the hemorrhaging? We are doomed.

  175. 175.

    RossInDetroit

    July 29, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Arriving at work I found that a roof drain had backed up into a drinking fountain and geysered gallons of filth all over a hallway and its furniture.

    How in the hell does a roof drain back up into a drinking fountain?! What kind of Third World hellhole do you work in?

    It’s a lovely school building built in 1924 in a wealthy community and carefully preserved. I wish they’d been a little less scrupulous about retaining the pre-war ideas about plumbing. The slop geyser is one of those things that elicits “Yeah, that needs a back flow trap” every time it happens. Then they forget about it. Three managers saw the results today so maybe something will happen now.

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