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You are here: Home / Politics / Politicans / David Brooks Giving A Seminar At The Aspen Institute / I’ll show you the life of the mind

I’ll show you the life of the mind

by DougJ|  August 5, 20114:36 pm| 67 Comments

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Via Tbogg, the great H. Allen Orr has a great article about Bobo’s latest book. Read the whole thing, but this is a good explanation of why I reach for my revolver whenever I hear a non-scientist say “nonlinear”:

Brooks claims repeatedly, for instance, that the unconscious—that most important part of the mind—corresponds to a murky domain of the unpredictable, the irregular, and the nonlinear. Indeed rationality, he announces, can’t acknowledge the importance of the unconscious because “once it dips its foot in that dark and bottomless current, all hope of regularity and predictability is gone.” But none of this follows. A process can be both perfectly unconscious and perfectly predictable. You are not conscious, for example, of how you use visual information from one eye to fill in for the blind spot from the other eye but I can confidently predict that you are doing so now.

Similarly, Brooks’s talk of nonlinearity is a red flag warning of scientific naiveté. “Nonlinear” has a precise mathematical meaning: the relation between two variables when plotted on a graph doesn’t look like a straight line. However, in Brooks’s hands, it means something that’s fuzzy or “cloudlike.” But there’s nothing fuzzy or cloudlike about, say, the change in the frequency of a gene under the action of natural selection; yet the relevant dynamics are nonlinear.


Update
. A quote from the book that is highlighted in the article:

Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

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  1. 1.

    Urza

    August 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Ok that quote in the update is either the ultimate in geekery for 2 scientists in love or totally mind blowing for how weird the writer is. I vote option 2 as the most likely.

  2. 2.

    Martin

    August 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

    I’ll have to share that line with my daughter. Dating is approaching and that should head it off another year.

  3. 3.

    Jennifer

    August 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    I got nuthin’. Except, perhaps, a suggestion to revise your tag to: David Brooks, the reason Dickipedia was invented.

  4. 4.

    Hunter Gathers

    August 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

    What the hell, are Rob and Julia members of the Bene Gesserit or something? I’m half expecting Bobo to spout the virtues of the Golden Path.

  5. 5.

    Superking

    August 5, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    F(x)=x^2. Non-linear yet predictable. Strange that.

  6. 6.

    moonbat

    August 5, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    “Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.”

    Ewwww!

  7. 7.

    Cris (without an H)

    August 5, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    Excellent post title. David Brooks’ writing makes me want to storm down a burning motel hallway, a shotgun in each hand, and blow somebody’s face off.

  8. 8.

    daveNYC

    August 5, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    But would Julia taste Rob’s genetic information?

    Yeah, I went there.

  9. 9.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    August 5, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    @Superking: Yes, but you’re talking about higher math, really high math by Bobo’s standard. So high, in fact, that we shouldn’t waste his money teaching it in school.

  10. 10.

    Suffern ACE

    August 5, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    What is foreplay anyway but a chance to take one last pass through the genetic data before taking the plunge?

  11. 11.

    Southern Beale

    August 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Gah. This post made my head hurt.

  12. 12.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    What, how can you forget this gem:

    Imagine a man who buys a chicken from the grocery store, manages to bring himself to orgasm by penetrating it, then cooks and eats the chicken.

  13. 13.

    cleek

    August 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    perhaps Brooks is using an approximation of the literary meaning of “nonlinear” (ex “nonlinear narrative”) – which basically means things aren’t presented in chronological order. the narrative jumps around in time, and often through multiple seemingly-unrelated plot lines, giving you bits and pieces of the story; and it’s up to you to put them all together.

  14. 14.

    TooManyJens

    August 5, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

    I feel like Bobo watched Farscape and then went horribly, horribly wrong.

  15. 15.

    Cris (without an H)

    August 5, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Oh my, every excerpt in that LRB post is full of hot, sticky win.

  16. 16.

    eemom

    August 5, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    shorter infinity articles analyzing, examining, critiquing, deconstructing, and refuting Bobo: how many ways can one say “buffoon”?

  17. 17.

    Svensker

    August 5, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Aaaaacccckkkkk. Some of the other quotes at your link are even worse.

    Do all the tote baggers know he writes stuff like this?

  18. 18.

    MikeBoyScout

    August 5, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    I think BoBo has confused non linear with non sequitur which is what BoBo’s verbal diarrhea is to political dialog.

  19. 19.

    Martin

    August 5, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Like most women, she got lubricated even while looking at nature shows of animals copulating, even though consciously the thought of being aroused by animals was repellent.

    See, who says that CS and JSF can’t be beneficial to the community here?

  20. 20.

    Suffern ACE

    August 5, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Montaigne he is not.

  21. 21.

    Thoughtful Black Co-Citizen

    August 5, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Someone must suffer horribly for that quote.

  22. 22.

    jl

    August 5, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    DougJ is not showing the pronounced humbility with is the hallmark of the best traditions of his country. Fie, fie, for shame, Begrimed Senescent DougJ.

    Nest thing you know he will grumble when authorized authorities take away his retirement money.

  23. 23.

    The Republic of Stupidity

    August 5, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Why stop at saliva?

    There must be other… ummm… precious bodily fluids… that Rob & Julia could swap, and thereby collect even more genetic information about each other…

  24. 24.

    futzinfarb

    August 5, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    It is arguably criminal to title a post “I’ll show you the life of the mind” without a link to this

  25. 25.

    Quicksand

    August 5, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Somebody, please, hit me on the head with something so I can un-remember these quotes. Gah.

  26. 26.

    Amir Khalid

    August 5, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:
    I could toil for a hundred years, and never come up with sentences of such inspired weirdness.

  27. 27.

    beltane

    August 5, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    And ye shall know your conservatives by the wretched sex scenes they write.

  28. 28.

    aimai

    August 5, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I’m on a brain science kick right now, reading my way through a number of recent books from “The Brain that Changes Itself” to “Sleights of Mind: The Neuroscience of Magic” and I can confidently assert, qua amateur, that the notion of a massive, unpredictable, mysterious, shadowy, unconcscious has never been less reflective of the latest research. So even in his pose of interlocutor–as nothing more than some kind of mindless trolly running between the latest academic pop science and the slavering hordes of NYT readers Brooks fails.
    aimai

  29. 29.

    AWL

    August 5, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Bobo’s a virgin, isn’t he?

  30. 30.

    Wag

    August 5, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    You say non-linear,
    I say non-sequester
    Let’s call the whole thing off

  31. 31.

    Tonal Crow

    August 5, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Update. A quote from the book that is highlighted in the article:

    Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

    As if we didn’t already have ample evidence that Bobo worships Ayn Rand.

  32. 32.

    beltane

    August 5, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    @AWL: I should hope so, because the thought of him exchanging genetic information with anyone poses a real threat to the institution of marriage.

  33. 33.

    futzinfarb

    August 5, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    @Wag:

    …
    I say non-sequitur
    …
    ?

    Duty calls.

  34. 34.

    Tonal Crow

    August 5, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    @AWL:

    Bobo’s a virgin, isn’t he?

    I’m not so sure about that. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, mind you.

  35. 35.

    Roger Moore

    August 5, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    @The Republic of Stupidity:

    There must be other… ummm… precious bodily fluids… that Rob & Julia could swap, and thereby collect even more genetic information about each other…

    I think those precious bodily fluids are what he’s talking about with the collecting genetic information. Of course what he actually means is “transferring” genetic information, not “collecting”, which is part of what makes it so awful. This reminds me of the old thing about the difference between the right word and the almost right one is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.

  36. 36.

    gelfling545

    August 5, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    @AWL: I was just thinking that, if this is an example of the conservative mind-set, they will obviously have few opportunities to reproduce. I find this comforting.

  37. 37.

    Wag

    August 5, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    @futzinfarb:

    Ok, you can go to bed now.

    :)

  38. 38.

    jl

    August 5, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Thomas Nagel’s review in the weirdest quotes link is funny, and dripping with Alien strength acid

    March 11, 2011
    David Brooks’s Theory of Human Nature
    By THOMAS NAGEL
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/books/review/book-review-the-social-animal-by-david-brooks.html

    This device is supposed to relieve the tedium of what would otherwise be like skimming through 10 years’ worth of the Tuesday Science Times

    Brooks seems willing to take seriously any claim by a cognitive scientist, however idiotic: for example, that since people need only 4,000 words for 98 percent of conversations, the reason they have vocabularies of 60,000 words is to impress and sort out potential mates.

    Brooks is out to expose the superficiality of an overly rational view of human nature, but there is more than one kind of superficiality.

  39. 39.

    freelancer

    August 5, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    ‘This hand reaching to touch me across the table is not quite like my mother’s hand. It’s more like the hand of other people I wanted to have sex with.’

    (As Eddie Izzard) “Uhm…Quoi?”
    /Izzard

    Weirdest thing I’ve ever read.

  40. 40.

    WereBear

    August 5, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Gah. That’s in the book? I don’t even what to know what its in aid of.

  41. 41.

    Bago

    August 5, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    As an engineer actually building the friggin cloud, can I ask Brooks to take a 2×4 to the head? Being a 1:2 ratio with a linear projection, even bobo should understand it. It’s when you go from Bo to bobo.

  42. 42.

    ciaran

    August 5, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    oh sweet jebus, that link to the london review of books is actually terrifying. wtf is wrong with that man?

  43. 43.

    Bago

    August 5, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    @futzinfarb: As a licensed homophonic, it is my duty to reference that doody.

  44. 44.

    RSA

    August 5, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

    Julia: I found these swabs and vials in your jacket pocket yesterday.
    Rob: Honey, I can explain…
    Julia: You’re having an affair!

  45. 45.

    jl

    August 5, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Nagel makes some interesting points, which now that I prepare to summarize them, makes me wonder whether Nagal’s ability to think clearly was wasted reviewing such a silly book

    One is that Brooks conceptualizes these supposedly and mysterious unknowable subconscious mostly in terms of (edit: traditionally trite and familiar) conscious concepts, which leads to hopeless confusion in how Brooks’ interprets the science.

    Another is that Brooks devotes most of the book to how understanding the subconscious in order to control others (or society in general), but almost nothing on how this knowledge is used by people to understand and control themselves, which Nagle thinks is a more interesting problem, and one that needs to be solved first.

    And third, Brooks’ analysis of how we should consciously control ourselves, in view of our new knowledge of the role of subconscious mind) is to rely on conventional morality and religion. Which Nagels thinks will only work for ‘easy cases’.

    [in my view, the third issue is related to the first, Brooks’ conceptualization of the subconscious almost entirely of pre existing concepts we have in our conscious minds. Which I guess means Brooks uses science to justify a kind of old school version of self discipline, with the subconscious mind being a wild ass Dr. Jeckel (edit, or Mr. Hyde? I keep mixing them up, anyway, I mean the bad man) , which we will consciously control through disciplined conscious application of convention and bromides]

  46. 46.

    MikeBoyScout

    August 5, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    I wonder, does BoBo know that Freud was an atheist and that Jung wrote about God’s evil face?

    The collective unconsciousness mind of the teahad would non like Bobo cozying up to such surreal thinkers.

  47. 47.

    ruemara

    August 5, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Is he trying to stop people from mating? Because that line has certainly halted my pheromone production.

  48. 48.

    futzinfarb

    August 5, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    As an incensed homophobic it is clearly not your doody.

  49. 49.

    futzinfarb

    August 5, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    @Bago:

    An incensed homophobic would clearly have no duty to the doody.

  50. 50.

    scav

    August 5, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    We’ve got a contender! The late Auberon Waugh (son of HeEvelyn) and The Lierary Review have a Bad Sex in Fiction Award. 2010 here

  51. 51.

    Evil Parallel Universe

    August 5, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Late to the party as usual, but I just finished reading “How the Hippies Saved Physics.” Basically, the book is about how physics emphasized applied applications rather than a “foundational” or philosophical understanding/study of quantum mechanics after WW II and during the cold war.

    Bobo really comes off as one of the marginal physicists (or non-physicists) trying to relate quantum mechanics and quantum processes to consciousness, parapsychology, etc., while diving into bed pretty much with the human potential movement on the West Coast at the time. And it turns out, like Bobo, even the those of the hippies who were real physicists seem to get a lot of the science wrong, let alone the non-scientists.

    So, I think this proves Bobo is a hippy.

    (The book actually tries to make the case that these physicists on the fringe of polite scientific society, being supported by wealthy patrons like Werner Erhard or foundations like Esalen, were actually important to moving physics education and practice back to more foundational, less practical, areas of endeavor. And he makes his point in ways, though he overstates it by more than a wee bit IMO).

  52. 52.

    taylormattd

    August 5, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Doug, I hate you forever for that last blockquote.

  53. 53.

    futzinfarb

    August 5, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    @eemom:

    Bobo: how many ways can one say “buffoon”?

    Kind of like that challenge in Steve Martin’s Cyrano vehicle, Roxanne:

    Useful buffoon
    Useless buffoon
    Corrupt buffoon
    Ignorant buffoon
    Asinine buffoon
    Supercilious buffoon
    Incompetent buffoon
    Undeservedly-wealthy buffoon
    Worthless-sack-of-shit buffoon
    Undeserving buffoon
    Poseur buffoon
    Pseudo-intellectual buffoon
    Inarticulate buffoon
    Pompous buffoon
    Inappropriate-use-of-hydrocarbon-polymers buffoon
    STFU buffoon
    NYT buffoon
    Buffoon’s buffoon
    Why-oh-why-is-this-the-schmuck-who-doesn’t-outlive-his-fifteen-minutes buffoon
    Dick buffoon

  54. 54.

    harlana

    August 5, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Oh, that link was cruel! I have a migraine now.

  55. 55.

    SensesFail

    August 5, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    @Evil Parallel Universe:

    Bobo really comes off as one of the marginal physicists (or non-physicists) trying to relate quantum mechanics and quantum processes to consciousness, …

    It’s like the kind of pseudo-scientific b.s. that you hear from Deepak Chopra and Robert Lanza over at the Huffington Post, where they both try to use quantum theory to support speculation concerning the existence of a soul or life after death.

    Here’s a paragraph from a piece by Robert Lanza at the Huffington post entitled “What Is It Like After You Die”:

    At death there’s a break in our linear stream of consciousness, and thus a break in the linear connection of times and places. Indeed, biocentrism suggests it’s a manifold that leads to all physical possibilities. More and more physicists are beginning to accept the “many-worlds” interpretation of quantum physics, which states that there are an infinite number of universes. Everything that can possibly happen occurs in some universe. Death doesn’t exist in these scenarios, since all of them exist simultaneously regardless of what happens in any of them. The “me” feeling is just energy operating in the brain. But energy never dies; it cannot be destroyed.

  56. 56.

    Delia

    August 5, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Yes, the LRB link is frightening. I’ll never be able to think about Bobo again without gagging.

    But I will give you a good working definition of nonlinear. Nonlinear is when I break my yardstick and use the two halves to drum nonlinearly on Bobo’s shiny head in a vain attempt to pound some sense in.

  57. 57.

    futzinfarb

    August 5, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    @SensesFail:

    The “me” feeling is just energy operating in the brain. But energy never dies; it cannot be destroyed.

    Damn – this explains a great deal! The second law of thermodynamics tells us that energy is constantly being transformed into more and more useless forms. Bobo’s mind is useless energy that cannot be destroyed!

  58. 58.

    The Other Chuck

    August 5, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    The Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest really ought to take submissions from third parties, because I can’t be the first to want to submit Bobo’s writings to them…

  59. 59.

    Crusty Dem

    August 5, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    I left a long, neuroscience-based joke up at Tbogg’s, but felt the need to state that:

    Later in their relationship, Rob and Julia would taste each other’s saliva and then collect genetic information.

    is scientifically absurd. There’s no way we can “collect genetic information” from tasting saliva, unless somebody published something on the adenine->umami linkage that I somehow missed.

    Shorter Bobo should read: “Science, bitches! Look at the shit I just made up!”

  60. 60.

    Jinxtigr

    August 5, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    @Martin: It’s called FURRY and boy, does it work XD

  61. 61.

    Matt

    August 5, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    No wonder conservatives like Brooks are so worried about other people’s sex lives – their own are clearly so bizarre that projecting them onto others has GOT to make them worried… ;)

  62. 62.

    DougW

    August 5, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @cleek: A classic version of this is a book by Uwe Johnson called Speculations about Jacob (originally Mutmassungen Uber Jacob). The reader has to put all the pieces together, though he/she usually don’t know Who is speaking, or When their dialogue occurs in time. Outstanding!

  63. 63.

    Josie

    August 5, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Honestly, DougJ, I would be perfectly content if you never quoted from or blogged about Bobo again. I don’t think enough people read him to make a difference, and, if they like his writing, they aren’t worth trying to reach.

  64. 64.

    Delia

    August 5, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    @futzinfarb:

    The second law of thermodynamics tells us that energy is constantly being transformed into more and more useless forms. Bobo’s mind is useless energy that cannot be destroyed!

    So as more and more energy is transformed into its useless state, it becomes Bobo’s Mind. Which means at the Heat Death of the Universe everything that exists is Bobo’s Mind, and is therefore completely useless.

  65. 65.

    wmd

    August 5, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    pernicious bullshit. that’s all there is to say.

  66. 66.

    Luthe

    August 5, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    I personally love the Amazon tags.

  67. 67.

    Librarian

    August 5, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Bobo writes these books because he wants to be known as a public intellectual, but he is a rank amateur who is totally in over his head when dealing with such esoteric fields in which he has no professional training like sociology and psychology. He makes it even worse when, instead of writing a straight nonfiction work, he has to make it a novel, which he and his publisher believe will sell more books, but which makes him look even more ridiculous.

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