If we’re going to have a story about every occasion that Dick Cheney urged George Bush to bomb some country or other, the Times might as well start paying Charlie Savage overtime, because he’ll be filing every day and twice on Sundays. If we know anything about Bush’s malevolent, misbegotten, rancid bastard of a VP, it’s that calling for freedom bombs was like an uncontrollable tic for that guy.
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arguingwithsignposts
When all you have is a hammer …
MattF
Well, yes, but it’s worth being reminded what “drag you down through the gates of Hell and into Satan’s anus” evil looks like.
Comrade Javamanphil
FTFY
JPL
Cheney must have been pissed that Israel was allowed to bomb Syria and we weren’t. Powell should have quit rather than give the UN Speech but like the good soldier, he didn’t.
JPL
How touching. Condi shed tears because she understood why we lied.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: Yea, especially if you never picked one up because you were in fucking grad school.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@JPL: I didn’t go to the 25th Anniversary of the Wall because he was the speaker.
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Hey, i didn’t say he had any experience with hammers, just that someone gave him one that looked all cool and stuff.
jrg
So, Vader couldn’t convince that gibbering, drooling shithead Dubya to bomb Syria in ’07 after the country found out they lied us into Iraq in ’03? There’s a shocker.
Consequences… How the fuck do they work? Next thing you know, the fundies are going to catch on to the fact that their incessant panty-sniffing makes them unpopular with the rest of the public.
EdTheRed
You ought to know not to stand by the window
Somebody might see you up there
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: :)
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Wait, CheneyWas the speaker at the 25th anniv. Of the Vietnam Memorial?
Wow.
Earl Butz
How appropriate that his heart has been replaced with a machine that’s a hypoallergenic version of a fish pump.
I’ll bet he’s imposed conditions on his doctors that require that he can only be transplanted with a donor heart from a child.
Alex S.
I still don’t know Cheney’s ultimate motivation. He was a big-government conservative, he was pro-bailout and pro-endless war. He didn’t care for fiscal matters and was very concerned about winning elections. But to what end? He was no real social conservative, and is not one of the Israel-first crowd. I don’t know…either 9/11 drove him insane and made him hate Arabs so much he wanted to kill each and every one of them, or he was just a military/oil lobbyist who happened to be the de facto-President for a while, so he continued his work by other means.
Alex S.
Also, I think he’ll die shortly after the release of his book and the inevitable interviews. It’s all he still lives for.
bkny
msnbc heavily promoting their interview with him (by a flirtatious the reporter) by noting how it will cause liberal heads to explode….
Alex S.
@efgoldman:
Yeah, I guess money is the answer of Occam’s razor, but it’s too simple for me.
JPL
There is something so wrong about this.. link
Raven how could the person who avoided the war speak at the memorial.
NonyNony
@Alex S.:
Money and power at all costs. It may sound too simplistic, but when you’re dealing with oligarchs like Cheney and his crew, the simple answer is usually the right one.
I don’t think that Cheney has any political ideology other than aristocracy and capitalism. It may sound simple, but you look at his actions and there are few other theories that fit the evidence.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: Powell
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@JPL: Sorry, I wasn’t clear. . .again. I’ve got more of a problem with Powell than Cheney. I KNEW there was no way a guy who had seen that shit close up would lead us down that path without good reason.
MikeJ
I admit I am looking forward in some grotesque way to his book. Thank god we have the internet and I’ll easily be able to obtain a copy with no money going to him.
cleek
Cheney’s motivation?
it’s right here. he put it in a statement, and signed it, along with Rummy and Wolfy and a dozen other douchebags.
Napoleon
OT
OK, this is funny:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/found_in_qaddafis_compound_a_condoleeza_rice_photo.php?ref=fpblg
MikeJ
@Napoleon: The dictator likes Condi Rice, the people like Susan Rice (and some big eared fellow.)
boss bitch
Has anyone seen this?
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/25/7470058-in-the-ruins-of-gadhafis-lair-rebels-find-album-filled-with-photos-of-his-darling-condoleezza-rice
“Leezza, Leezza, Leezza”
Constance
@MikeJ:
I’m going to go to the library and skim Cheney’s book standing up at the new book shelf. That way there will be no record I read it. On second thought, why would I do that? I don’t give a shit about anything he has to say or write about. Whew. At my age I don’t have time to read anything I’m not looking forward to. Just finished “The Woodcutter,” by Reginald Hill. It was so good I wish I hadn’t read it yet.
bkny
@boss bitch: oh man, is she ever having a bad day … cheney describes her as crying and now to learn that gadhafi was wanking off to her… lol.
NonyNony
@boss bitch:
That is some creepy stalker behavior right there.
Maude
@Constance:
I’m reading The Woodcutter now. It is good. He is a dependable writer.
Larkspur
Hope for an answer some day.
Does Cheney hate Rice? Because that’s pretty rude.
pablo
Richard the Turd
Alex S.
@cleek:
That’s really interesting. Funny that Jeb Bush signed it and W. didn’t.
cmorenc
@JPL:
Powell agreed to give the speech because at that point, he still trusted that Bush, Cheney, etc. would not lie to HIM about the bona fides of the intelligence used to justify going to war, would not abuse Powell’s integrity by setting him up promote false claims to the U.N. in order to secure a war resolution.
Where Powell was too much the good soldier is after it became apparent to him they’d lied to him and deliberately misused his credibility to deceive the U.N., he was reluctant to publicly, explicitly call them out for it. I would verbally crucify someone who misused me in that fashion.
kindness
Cheney….what a dick. And he’s writing a book proclaiming just how dickish he is? I guess Pammycakes at
Ihateeveryone.comAtlasshrugged would want it, Bolton would want it, Kristol would want it. But those assholes will expect a copy gratis, just ’cause. Who else is going to buy this trash? (Can’t wait to see Jesus’ General Amazon review for it)In my world it’s bad form (& zen) to wish someone ill and I’ll wrestle with that one till the day Cheney finally dies . After which point I will vacation at his grave with multiple beers so I can give him the just deserts he truly deserves after my system has finished with the beers. How can I get a beer concession at this grave site anyhow?
boss bitch
@NonyNony: @bkny:
I wonder how his German nurse feels about this.
Monkey Business
At some point, we as a country need to acknowledge the fact that Bush, Cheney, Rice, et all. deliberately mislead the country by using bad, easily disproven intelligence to force the nation into a neverending quagmire in the Middle East.
Right? Right!?
Linda Featheringill
Cheyne’s motive:
Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
Except that he thought he actually could.
smintheus
Cheney’s motive:
He wants to feel important.
John Puma
Indeed, Cheney is a rancid rat-bastard of historic proportions.
But, … err..rr …, ya’ know, the a, errr..rr, current administration has a program to wage secret war in 120 NEW countries. http://tinyurl.com/3pjod2v
This should bring yet more squeals of delight, and envy, from Cheney of which there have too many already, for example:
http://tinyurl.com/3mor3uy
Frankensteinbeck
@Alex S.:
See @cleek. Cheney is a Neoconservative. He subscribes, apparently wholeheartedly and with zealot passion, to the idea that America has a rightful hegemony over the world. It’s not simply empire. They believe that America’s way is so good and right that if it’s militarily imposed everyone will thank us for showing them the light, stop standing in the way of our interests, and it will be sunshine and lollipops every day. Overthrowing Saddam Hussein was supposed to lead to every country in the Middle East going ‘Wow, we want some of what Iraq’s having!’ and overthrowing their own dictators and setting up pro-American democracies. Presumably he’s now trying to take credit for Arab Spring.
Chris
Anyone notice The Onion hijacking this article by the end, check out the last paragraph…
“And in the epilogue, Mr. Cheney writes that after undergoing heart surgery in 2010, he was unconscious for weeks. During that period, he wrote, he had a prolonged, vivid dream that he was living in an Italian villa, pacing the stone paths to get coffee and newspapers.”
How good are THOSE drugs?
Culture of Truth
LOL
Rabble Arouser
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Quoted For Truth.
Yutsano
@boss bitch: I wonder if Mummy knows she’s a closet lesbyterian.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@John Puma: Still lookin for the lake huh?
SweetNostrils, fka Scuffletuffle
@Constance: Loves me some Reginald Hill, esp. the Dalziel & Pascoe series. The bestest!
Samara Morgan
heyya mistermix.
GG finds you an interesting juxtaposition.
i think droning is 21st century napalm.
Frankensteinbeck
@Samara Morgan:
Well, no. This isn’t interesting at all. We are using drone attacks in all the countries we have military entanglements in. Somalia is not new. As the lowest risk and investment weapon we have, presumably drones would be used in all these places?
There is an argument to be made comparing it to napalm, in that napalm was a substitute for direct use of soldiers. That’s about the only similarity, since the main problems with napalm in Vietnam were that it was a carpet bombing campaign – unlike any use of drones currently – and that use of fire as a weapon is frowned upon as unnecessarily cruel internationally. Explosive bombs are not.
John Puma
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
If you can’t handle the ugly truth, that is really NO pleasure for me to write, just avoid the posts that have the same name.
Really, could it be ANY simpler?
Samara Morgan
@Frankensteinbeck: well droning is stupid. Every hostile terminated creates AT LEAST two more hostiles, because of influence propagation along both consanguinous and social network connections. it is not cost viable, because it creates more terrorists than it eliminates.
we aren’t even running in place, we are running backwards.
and i agree with Dr. King
Steamboat
Remember that one time he bombed his hunting buddy in the face? I think he was aiming for Ecuador, or Mali, or one of those countries.