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Open Thread

by John Cole|  September 1, 20118:46 pm| 124 Comments

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Such a good night. Had a great scotch before dinner. Then had an aged NY strip I cooked on the grill, some fresh tomatoes from the garden with a little fresh basil and some mozz., a nice light garden salad, finished with a scoop of vanilla ice cream and a shot of Bärenjäger, and now I am drinking some solid black coffee and getting ready to raid (Warcraft) with guys I have known for years online. Not to mention, the Steelers are playing and I have the world’s greatest dog with me:

I’ll just leave you with this:

I’ll be back after heroic Ragnaros. Because Charlie Sheen was a piker.

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  1. 1.

    JenJen

    September 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Not to harsh anyone’s buzz, as I am enjoying a most delightful Margarita myself at the moment, but this is a must-see video:

    Cop Tasers Mentally Ill Guy With His Hands Up (in Arizona) – Gawker

    The audio of the guy shooting the video to post on YouTube is almost as revolting as the tase.

  2. 2.

    Violet

    September 1, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Awww…Lily! What a total sweetie. I can see how you’re completely in love with her.

    I’ve had a crappy week. My hip is acting up so I’ve been in pain. And I’m struggling with stupid TV providers to figure out how to watch the Rugby World Cup that starts next Friday, September 9th. It’s available online via UniversalSports.com with a package deal so you can watch all the matches. Other than a few matches they’re showing on the Universal Sports channel (delayed of course), you have to go PPV and pay a minimum of $25 per match. There are 40 pool matches before you even get to the quarterfinals. Do the match on that. Highway robbery!

    If anyone has any better ideas of how to watch it on a TV, not online (because with sports, the online stuff is jerky and slow and basically sucks), and not have to pay $2,000, I’d love to hear about it. Any other rugby fans out there?

  3. 3.

    JPL

    September 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    John, how are the pet rejects?

  4. 4.

    Baud

    September 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Can’t wait for preseason to be over. Saints-Packers is just one week away!

  5. 5.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 1, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Harpoon has a limited-edition Rye IPA that is really very good.

  6. 6.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 1, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    @Violet: Marcy Wheeler is a mother-rugger.

  7. 7.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Hellwo sweet lily!

  8. 8.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 1, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Now that it’s an open thread I can show this cool painting of our neighborhood eatery with our pups on display in the door!
    White Tiger.

  9. 9.

    Ron

    September 1, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Is there a reason Roethlisberger is apparently not playing tonight?

  10. 10.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @Violet:

    you have to go PPV and pay a minimum of $25 per match.

    $25 per match? What do they think it is, an academic research paper?

  11. 11.

    geg6

    September 1, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Good food? Check. Steelers? Check. Lily? Well, no. But I have Otis and, sadly for you, Cole, as cute as Lily is (and she totally is), Otis is the best goggie in the world.

  12. 12.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    @Ron: Yeah, it’s preseason.

  13. 13.

    cathyx

    September 1, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    How did you know I’m a huge Santana fan?

  14. 14.

    JPL

    September 1, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): What a great painting and your pets are adorable.

  15. 15.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 1, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    @cathyx: Saw him last summer after a 41 year hiatus!

  16. 16.

    JPL

    September 1, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Raven, GA’s schedule is pretty impressive. They might go down in flames but at least they are not playing Western Carolina for their opener.

  17. 17.

    Violet

    September 1, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:
    Huh?

  18. 18.

    Baud

    September 1, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    White House: Obama speech won’t clash with NFL opener

    The White House and congressional Republicans have agreed on a 7 p.m. ET start time for Obama’s Sept. 8 address to a joint session of Congress. The game between the defending Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers and New Orleans Saints won’t kick off until 8:30 p.m.

    The Republic is saved.

  19. 19.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 1, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I am intrigued by your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

  20. 20.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    @Violet: Academe joke. Downloading an article reprint from a journal if you don’t have access at a library can cost up to $40.

  21. 21.

    Steeplejack

    September 1, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Just getting ready to have a rare sit-down dinner myself. Was off work today and enjoyed the non-hellishly hot weather here in NoVa. Autumn feels like it’s just around the corner.

    Boring but nice dinner coming up: rib-eye, baked potato. A rare indulgence.

  22. 22.

    trollhattan

    September 1, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    @Violet:

    I don’t really understand it, but enjoy the chaos and lack of protective gear. Toughest SOBs in team sports. I confess to listening to matches on Radio Australia on shortwave, because that triples the incomprehensibility of it all. Also, too, “footy” on the radio.

  23. 23.

    JenJen

    September 1, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Little Lord Stanley at 25 weeks. The time, it flies!

    Puppy Meet-Up, plotting an insurgency with his bestie, Zelda the french bulldog
    Puppy Meet-Up, hogging teh toyz

  24. 24.

    newhavenguy

    September 1, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Re: Dick Cheney

    Partisanship aside, is it off base of me to think of Mr. Cheney as a pure sociopath? (I mean that literally, as in “on a par with John Wayne Gacy, Reinhard Heydrich or Ted Bundy.”)

    Serious question,not rhetorical by any means.

    Disclosure: This is coming from a mainstream big-D Democrat who thinks it all started to turn to shit under Nixon (before I read Nixonland even.) I don’t see how the Trickster can even hold a candle to this monster.

  25. 25.

    robertdsc-PowerBook

    September 1, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Love that Lilidog to pieces.

  26. 26.

    Roger Moore

    September 1, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Lily is nice, but we demand Tunch!

  27. 27.

    MikeBoyScout

    September 1, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    I gotta feeling . . . :-)

    As it is pre-season, time to tune up. Ravens Suck!
    Yep, that’s working.

    Me? Stillers, grilled salmon burgers. COC and Bridgeport’s Summer Squeeze.

  28. 28.

    MikeBoyScout

    September 1, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    @27 Roger Moore:

    I’ll fill u in on a little secret. Tunch is playing Right Guard in tonight’s game. Sources say he has a shot at making the team.

  29. 29.

    Violet

    September 1, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:
    Ah, okay. Wondered what I was missing there.

    @trollhattan:
    I grew up watching American football, but the English family got me watching rugby and I really have learned to love it. The games never stop unless someone is really injured. Flopping, like in soccer, isn’t really done. Rugby is the basis for American football so it’s not that hard to follow for Americans. The lack of pads and helmets just makes it a lot more interesting, imho. The guys make hard hits, but they have to know their own bodies’ limits rather than rely on padding. Plus, they can go from playing defense to offense in a moment. Players have to be smarter and know more about the sport because of it.

    Anyway, I am really disappointed that in the US we’re going to be charged this much money to watch it on TV or have to resort to crappy online options. It’s a massive sporting event everywhere else in the world – third largest after the FIFA World Cup and the Summer Olympics. You’d think it would be less expensive to watch.

  30. 30.

    lamh32

    September 1, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Watching “Invention Of Lying” with Ricky Gervais. It’s actually a pretty smart and funny movie, but really sweet. Anyone else seen it?

    After seeing the movie, you do just wonder what WOULD the world be like without lying?

    I realize that I actually tell “lil” white lies or “lies of omission” more than I thought. Seriously, try it for one day, hell try it for one hour. It damn difficult…LOL.

  31. 31.

    jharp

    September 1, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Try roasting the tomatoes on the grill.

    Take them off just when they start to fall apart. To me by far the best way to eat them.

  32. 32.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    @efgoldman: don’t you mean redundant? :)

  33. 33.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 1, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Oxymoron, no?

    I think not.

  34. 34.

    JenJen

    September 1, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    @Violet: I was so excited when DirecTV finally added Universal Sports to the lineup, but they teased us with a free preview and now it’s off to one of the pay tiers. Just to get the channel, you have to buy the Sports Pack which is like $9.99 a month. And to see the Rugby World Cup in its entirety? $124.99!!

    Yes, the choppy free video blows, but I’ll be the watching the early rounds online. Luckily, a favorite local sports bar is showing all the games so that’s a terrific alternative. Might be worth looking around your town for a pub if there’s a particular match you want to see.

    ETA: Now that I think about it, I’ll wager that a sizable amount of the 2012 Olympics coverage is going to be shuffled off onto Universal Sports on a pay-per-view or package basis. Grrr.

  35. 35.

    khead

    September 1, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    This thread made me hungry even though I’ve already eaten.

  36. 36.

    shortstop

    September 1, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    I love Lily’s little deer eyes.

  37. 37.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 1, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Might be more productive to subscribe to Harpoon’s newsletter, or Twitter feed, or whatever the kids are calling it these days.

  38. 38.

    Steeplejack

    September 1, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    @JenJen:

    I like Zelda in the background: “Yeah, it’s on!”

  39. 39.

    Violet

    September 1, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    @JenJen:
    What about the timing of the matches in the bar? Isn’t it going to be at a stupid time here in the US? And it’s so hard to watch them all during the pool stage. Last World Cup we had the Setanta PPV package with Dish and put everything on the DVR. That way we could skim through some of the pool matches that we weren’t all that interested in. We saw an awesome try by someone like Ukraine against Japan, or something like that. I really had hoped to watch all of them again.

    I was so excited when DirecTV finally added Universal Sports to the lineup, but they teased us with a free preview and now it’s off to one of the pay tiers. Just to get the channel, you have to buy the Sports Pack which is like $9.99 a month. And to see the Rugby World Cup in its entirety? $124.99!!

    Where are you getting the $124.99 number? Do you mean the universalsports.com deal online? That’s the early bird price. It’s up to $149.99 now. Or are you talking about something else?

    ETA: I thought the Universal Sports channel on DirecTV was still free through September? No?

  40. 40.

    khead

    September 1, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Also, I would like to have my power back on sometime before Labor Day.

    That would be nice.

  41. 41.

    PurpleGirl

    September 1, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @efgoldman: Had a friend who was a Mason and through him I got to see inside of various Masonic lodge rooms at the NYC main building on 23rd St. He produced various musicals as fundraisers for different lodges and also did catering for events held by lodges. (I often helped cook and serve at the catering gigs; I also worked as property master and director’s assistant for a couple of the musical productions.) I love the building at 23rd St. They restored a lot of the rooms — painted ceilings, moldings, stuff like that.

    Maybe the Masons are involved in conspiracies, like the Illuminati; but some of them are really nice people.

  42. 42.

    PurpleGirl

    September 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Lily has such a sweet face.

  43. 43.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    @khead: Irene was all hype, doncha know?

    (seriously, wishing the best for your power supply, and the others who are still digging out, repairing their lives)

  44. 44.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    The official Day One of my solo career was good. Tomorrow I move into my new office.

    BTW, Brad DeLong was right: the 11 inch Mac Book Air is God’s Own Laptop.

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    September 1, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): What JPL said!

    And who did the painting, and where does it hang?

    @burnspbesq: Congratulations!

  46. 46.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 1, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @burnspbesq: Oh god, here come the mac haters!

  47. 47.

    Constance

    September 1, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    She is the dearest dog ever. I’ve missed seeing pics and hearing about her. Thank you.

  48. 48.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    @burnspbesq: Did you solo “Stairway to Heaven”? No first day is complete without it.

  49. 49.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 1, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    @WaterGirl: Mary Porter. She just finished it and sold it before she was ready to. There are about 4 paintings of our house and our rental in her portfolio, any thing with Ann or Ruth in the title.

  50. 50.

    PurpleGirl

    September 1, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    @efgoldman: Although my friend was a member (later a master) of the Franklin Lodge, he spent a lot time working for another lodge (forgetting the name), among its early membership was George Washington and a host of other founders. I loved working in their lodge room because they had these historical things around to room.

  51. 51.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Well, it’s not an unambiguous joy. It gave TSA a reason to fuck with me this morning. Based on something I read that the 11″ is treated like an iPad (i.e., you don’t have to take it out and run it though separately), I left it in its protective case in my bag. The TSA guy sees something he hasn’t previously seen, and goes into brain-lock. I tell him “it’s an 11 inch MacBook Air, and your rules say it gets the same treatment as an iPad.” So the fuckers not only take out the MBA and run it through separately, the take the iPad out and run it through separately – without telling me. I’m standing in line at McDonald’s, and over the PA comes “If you left your iPad at the south security checkpoint, please come back and get it.”

    Fuckers.

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    No, but I played Miles’ first solo from “So What” in octaves, a la Wes Montgomery. Sounded good – but then, pretty much anything sounds good on my 40 year old Guild D-35, which I bought with money from my after-school job at Baskin-Robbins.

  53. 53.

    JCT

    September 1, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    BTW, Brad DeLong was right: the 11 inch Mac Book Air is God’s Own Laptop.

    That’s a no-doubter. I take mine everywhere, no performance compromises –I knew it was made for “me” within minutes of my first test-drive at the Michigan Ave Apple Store.

    And Lily is pure sweetness. But I think she wants you to stop watching those guys wearing funny suits and play with her. Or at least give her a snek.

  54. 54.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 1, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    @burnspbesq: Ack, I flew with my pad and a hard keyboard case this summer and breezed on through. Ya never know I guess,

  55. 55.

    JenJen

    September 1, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    @Violet: Oooh, you’re right, USN is still free on DirecTV, just checked! Pretty sure it ends before rugby though.

    The New Zealand time difference is going to be stupid, you’re right. But if past experience counts for anything, there’s something pretty fun and naughty about downing a pint at your favorite pub watching World Cup soccer at 7:00 am, so I think it might be the same for rugby!

    I got the $124.99 price from a DirecTV promo. It very well might be up by now. $124.99 was still crazy-expensive to me.

  56. 56.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Can we have a rousing chorus of “FTFY” in memory of Steve Gilliard? We’re going to miss him and Molly Ivins something awful between now and a year from November.

  57. 57.

    PurpleGirl

    September 1, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @PurpleGirl & efgoldman: The lodge where Washington and Ben Franklin and others were members is Holland Lodge. Took a little time to track down the name.

  58. 58.

    PurpleGirl

    September 1, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @burnspbesq: Gilly is missed quite a lot. Not just his political commentary but his food and military history and, well, just everything.

    Yes, FTFY!

  59. 59.

    Violet

    September 1, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    @JenJen:

    I got the $124.99 price from a DirecTV promo. It very well might be up by now. $124.99 was still crazy-expensive to me.

    Just checking – is the $129.99 for watching the entire Rugby World Cup on the TV or online? If it’s for watching on your TV, PLEASE tell me how you got that to work.

    Oooh, you’re right, USN is still free on DirecTV, just checked! Pretty sure it ends before rugby though.

    I think they’re offering a selection of RWC matches, but mostly they’re the USA team. Once they go into October you have to pay.

  60. 60.

    Sharl

    September 1, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Can we have a rousing chorus of “FTFY” in memory of Steve Gilliard? We’re going to miss him and Molly Ivins something awful between now and a year from November.

    Seconded.

  61. 61.

    JenJen

    September 1, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    @Violet: Ahhh. Seeing as how my offer is from DirecTV, I figured the RWC was on television. The $124.99 is for online and on-demand. I’m sorry. :-(

    @burnspbesq: Hell yes! FTFY!

  62. 62.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    I am normally a person that wants to follow the course as politics is the art of the possible. But I think we are past that right now, at this point in time in our American Experiment. And it is doubtful the wingnuts, at least in the House, will pass any legislation that might possibly be given credit to Obama. They are all in for what amounts to sedition level of obstructionism, imo. They don’t care about the country, or jobs. They want Obama gone, and likely wouldn’t pass a bill that they wrote in full. So I agree with the majority, as seen in this poll.

    Obama Voters Don’t Want Compromise on Jobs Plan
    A new SurveyUSA/MoveOn poll of people who voted for Barack Obama for president in 2008 finds that by a huge margin — 81% to 16% — they want him to lay out a broad plan for creating jobs and hold Republicans accountable if they block this legislation, instead of proposing smaller measures that Republicans have supported, in the hopes of getting something passed in Congress.

    I think this is what Obama is going to do, in his speech and later in his campaigning. It will be full electioneering after the Labor Day break, and since there is no hope of passing even smaller bills that might help the country, might as well go big, with the vision thingy.

  63. 63.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    @burnspbesq: I had a friend in seminary who had a pristine Gibson J series. It made me weep.

  64. 64.

    WyldPirate

    September 1, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    @General Stuck:

    I think this is what Obama is going to do, in his speech and later in his campaigning. It will be full electioneering after the Labor Day break, and since there is no hope of passing even smaller bills that might help the country, might as well go big, with the vision thingy.

    So, you finally pulled your head out of your ass then, huh Stuck?

    Bout goddamned time…..

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack

    September 1, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Congratulations! Did someone break a bottle of champagne over your head and push you down a chute? I believe that is customary.

  66. 66.

    different church-lady

    September 1, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Had a great scotch before dinner. Then had an aged NY strip I cooked on the grill… (etc. etc.)

    After all that I never want to hear you complain about anything for the rest of your life.

  67. 67.

    B W Smith

    September 1, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): Raven, you must live just around the corner from my neighborhood. White Tiger is great! Lovely painting, it appears she is having an exhibit at White Tiger during September. I’ll try to get over and take a look.

  68. 68.

    susan

    September 1, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    I miss Gilly too along with Jen and her love of expensive “Lush” soaps. Steve would buy her this soap when he wanted to give her a gift, but he could never get over how much it cost. It is just [email protected]#$^&* soap, he would howl.

    I also miss Billmon. I am glad to see that MOA is back, but I don’t think there has been a Billmon sighting for quite awhile. Maybe he became so thoroughly disgusted with all that is happening that he finally gave up.

    The void they left cannot be filled.

  69. 69.

    boss bitch

    September 1, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    U.S. Is Set to Sue a Dozen Big Banks Over Mortgages

    The federal agency that oversees the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is set to file suits against more than a dozen big banks, accusing them of misrepresenting the quality of mortgage securities they assembled and sold at the height of the housing bubble, and seeking billions of dollars in compensation.

    The Federal Housing Finance Agency suits, which are expected to be filed in the coming days in federal court, are aimed at Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank, among others, according to three individuals briefed on the matter.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/business/us-is-set-to-sue-dozen-big-banks-over-mortgages.html?_r=1&hp

  70. 70.

    Argive

    September 1, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    I believe that this may be the stupidest person on earth:

    Chris Jeon, a 21-year-old university student from Los Angeles, California,shrugging cooly, declared: “It is the end of my summer vacation, so I thought it would be cool to join the rebels. This is one of the only real revolutions” in the world.

    “How do you fire this thing?” he asked on Wednesday as a bearded rebel handed him an AK-47. Locating the trigger of the assault rifle and switching off the safety, Mr Jeon fired it in the air in two short bursts.

    “I want to fight in Sirte!” he proclaimed, using hand gestures and pointing west towards Sirte. Whether the rebels understood him was far from clear. “It’s hard to communicate. I don’t really speak any Arabic,” he said.

    Much more funny stuff in the article.

  71. 71.

    Dave

    September 1, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    With so much snarky noise out there these days, I never tire of posts like this.

    And +1 for saving the carbs for dessert!

  72. 72.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    @WyldPirate:

    Get a clue, dipshit. What I am saying in this comment is consistent for changing from governing to electoral politics, and since most dems before now have favored compromise in polls, it is a normal transition from that style into election campaigning.

    That doesn’t mean Obama should not reach out and play the bipartisan card, at least in rhetoric, it means, like with his grand bargain offers, that anything big he won’t sign unless it’s a comprehensive bill, which of course the wingers won’t pass any such thing. And haven’t since January.

    And up until that point, near all the compromising was done with democrats in the senate.

    The Obama caved to republicans canard is one of the most false and stupid memes from the firebagger left.

  73. 73.

    boss bitch

    September 1, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Did the poll ask them if they were willing to wait until 2013 before anything gets done about jobs and the economy? that’s my only concern. Lots of people saying they can deal with getting nothing as long as he “fights” but I happen to think that’s bull. People who actually need help are going to run out of patience and I’m curious to see who they turn on after months of this battle.

  74. 74.

    Violet

    September 1, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    @JenJen:

    Ahhh. Seeing as how my offer is from DirecTV, I figured the RWC was on television. The $124.99 is for online and on-demand. I’m sorry. :-(

    The on-demand you’re talking about is online, right? That’s what I’ve seen from universalsports.com. That’s interesting that they offered you a deal. I might have to bug them to see if I can get that deal.

    The whole thing is incredibly frustrating. Last RWC we watched the entire thing for a package price of $199. This year we can’t watch but a few matches before we hit that price.

  75. 75.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    We’re saving that until I send out bills and collect some actual money.

  76. 76.

    suzanne

    September 1, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    My client is a complete idiot. They spent $300 worth of my time today so I could convince them that the design I showed them two weeks ago is in fact the only one that will work. He was fucking arguing with me about door swings. “BUT MY OFFICE DOOR OPENS INWARDLY!!!”

    Office =/= path of egress.

  77. 77.

    Southern Beale

    September 1, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    This is an old story but I just now found it …. the 10 most s0shul1st states in America using the classic definition, which is where “the state is responsible for 100% of economic output and spends all of it on social programs.”

    The top 10 U.S. states that meet this definition are:

    MOST s0shul1st states, in order, are:

    West Virginia, Alaska, Alabama, Vermont, New Mexico, Mississippi, Wyoming, Arkansas, Hawaii, Rhode Island

    LEAST s0shul1st states, in order, are:

    Nevada, IL, Texas, NH, FL, VA, So Dakota, GA, MO and Washington.

    I found all of that very interesting.

  78. 78.

    Southern Beale

    September 1, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Fuckitall, getting around the stupid embargoed word issue is driving me nuts. Here’s an old article I found. It’s interesting. Whatever.

  79. 79.

    Southern Beale

    September 1, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Oh fuckitall. I’m trying to post a fucking link and it has an embargoed word in the URL and I promise it’s not dirty. It has to do with state spending on social programs. It’s interesting. An old article but I’ve only now seen it. Read it if you care.

    I’m out of here. Trying to post a fucking link for 5 minutes for some stupid word.

    http://tinyurl.com/3t68r9f

  80. 80.

    Ron

    September 1, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Sure, but usually the starters at least play about a quarter or a half at this point.

  81. 81.

    suzanne

    September 1, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    @burnspbesq: Congratulatiions. :) If you need some architectural/interior design services for that new office, you just lemme know. I know which way your door should swing. ;)
    I’m deeply covetous of your Air.

  82. 82.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 1, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    @burnspbesq:
    Hell yes! Both were unique voices and as far as I can tell, no one has manged to get close to filling their places. I miss Molly Ivins most of all. She managed to leaven her razor sharp observations with strong doses of humor and an unsurpassed gift for narrative.

    To me, we’re missing the humor these days. Many of us are so deadly serious about the struggle with the Republicans that forget that humor, which the Republicans don’t understand, is one of our best weapons against them. Americans adore a good joke, maybe it’s time that we start to generate some good jokes with Republicans as the punch line.

  83. 83.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    @boss bitch:

    Obama has to and will, make the case with drawing contrasts between dem values and those of say a Rick Perry. I do follow polls, and it is pretty amazing that a wide majority get that things are pretty fucked up, and the republicans are to blame. So I think Obama’s messaging on that has had positive effect, as does his gestures of meeting the wingers half way. His good faith creds are considerably higher than the wingers, even with his anemic approval numbers.

    Now that the election season is full swing, he will get more coverage on the national level, but he has been getting coverage at local levels where he shows up for an event. He is going to have to pound home the reality that our economy is deeply dysfunctional right now, like the WH predictions today of UE remaining around 9 percent till after the election.

  84. 84.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    @boss bitch:

    Since they’ve had a couple of years to work on these cases, one hopes that they’ve got it right.

  85. 85.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Unflippinbelievable: there is an offer on the table to buy the Dodgers for $1.2 billion. Yes, billion. With a B.

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/6918773/right-owner-matters-los-angeles-dodgers-not-pricetag

  86. 86.

    FlipYrWhig

    September 1, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    I just got electricity back at home today, on Day 6 after Irene. And I decided to mark the occasion by drinking cheap wine and then heading over here. Something has gone awry in my life. Um, pleasantly awry? I think? Ahem.

  87. 87.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    @suzanne:

    Thanks.

    Re office design, maybe in a year or two. For now, it’s Regus for me. At some point, if possible, I’d like to get out of sterile high-rise office buildings and into an old house or commercial building. I like exposed brick walls, area rugs, and Thomas Moser furniture.

  88. 88.

    WyldPirate

    September 1, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Obama

    The Obama caved to republicans canard is one of the most false and stupid memes from the firebagger left.

    You still have a lot of shit clouding your vision, dumbfuck.

    Obama wasted a lot of time with his horseshit bipartisanship (that’s why 81% of those polled in your link don’t want to see compromise with the Repukes). He also wasted a lot of goddamned time legitimizing the fucking Repuke rhetoric on the fucking deficit.

    Find an eyewash somewhere, moron, and wash those chunky dingleberries out of your eyes.

  89. 89.

    TooManyJens

    September 1, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    @newhavenguy:

    Partisanship aside, is it off base of me to think of Mr. Cheney as a pure sociopath? (I mean that literally, as in “on a par with John Wayne Gacy, Reinhard Heydrich or Ted Bundy.”)

    Not only is it not off base, but I predict that a hundred years from now, this will be the accepted theory.

  90. 90.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 1, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:
    Congratulations! At least you came through it with your sensitivities and your priorities intact.

  91. 91.

    burnspbesq

    September 1, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Well, I was up at 4:15 to go to the airport, so I am going to send a couple of emails to India and then call it a day.

    Enjoy the rest of your evening, y’all.

  92. 92.

    Jeffro

    September 1, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Or alternatively, he tried to govern (albeit from our missing middle these days) and came up naively short.

    So now it’s campaign season…GAME ON

  93. 93.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    @WyldPirate:

    eat shit, pervert psycho.

    Or, git yer ass to a Klan meeting, it might calm you down some.

  94. 94.

    WyldPirate

    September 1, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    @General Stuck:

    He is going to have to pound home the reality that our economy is deeply dysfunctional right now, like the WH predictions today of UE remaining around 9 percent till after the election.

    Who “owns” this economy now, Stuck?

    Who was yammering about “green shoots” <itwo goddamned years ago", hmmm?

    Why the fuck was he yakking about the goddamned deficit and debt so long when the job situation has been so bad for as long it has been?

    Whistle past that graveyard, you buffoonish apologist…..

  95. 95.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    @WyldPirate:

    eat shit troll

  96. 96.

    WyldPirate

    September 1, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    @General Stuck:

    What’s the matter, Stuck? That all you’ve got?

    Hard chewing on the truth that people are going to hold Obama accountable for the economy isn’t it? Giving you a little indigestion, huh?

    Can’t handle the fact that nearly three years into Obama’s term, U3 is up 1.3% from when he started and GDP growth has averaged 1%, huh?

    Don’t choke on the facts, bitch….

  97. 97.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 1, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Obama has to and will, make the case with drawing contrasts between dem values and those of say a Rick Perry.

    I respect your undying adherence to Obama. Delineating the difference between Dem priorities and those of Rick Perry isn’t going to do fuck all to help Obama’s chances in ’12 as long as those priorities have failed to reduce unemployment. Democratic priorities are very nice in the abstract but they’re no substitute for a job, or the prospect of one, and something other than mac and cheese for dinner.

  98. 98.

    khead

    September 1, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Congrats Flip.

    We just called the local TV station to see if they would be interested in a story on how BG&E treats its customers like shit.

  99. 99.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    @WyldPirate:

    We were losing 700,000 Jobs a month when Obama took over. So are you better off than you were 3 years ago. Hell yes. Considering the economy was teetering on the abyss into a deep depression. The there is this factoid.

    Any fair minded person, which wildypervert is certainly not when it comes to Obama, would measure what he has done and how far the economy has come away from that abyss he inherited. Here is a fact for you, though it won”t matter to someone operating under racial hatred for our black president.

    Obama created more jobs in one year than Bush created in eigh

  100. 100.

    Jewish Steel

    September 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    “…but the fugitive leader rejected the ultimatum and raged at his enemies in a new broadcast that called for the country to be ‘engulfed in flames.”

    I love this. Next time one of you pisses me off I’m going to call for YOU to be engulfed in flames!

  101. 101.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 1, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Here is a fact for you, though it won’‘t matter to someone operating under racial hatred for our black president.

    Now you’re reaching for it. Or did my vehement criticisms of Hillary Clinton mean that I hate Caucasians?

  102. 102.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    @Dennis SGMM:

    Fatalists are the most sorry sumbitches around, imo. I take nothing you say seriously, Dennis. And Don’t give one shit what you think of my “adherence to Obama”. Your commentary comes from some deep hole someplace in you head, and the cynicism is an effort to pull others down with you. I almost feel sympathy toward your plight. But not quite. Same with Wildy, though to your credit, you aren’t at his level of pathology.

  103. 103.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    @Dennis SGMM:

    The quote you quote was to wildepirate, not you, idiot.

  104. 104.

    WyldPirate

    September 1, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    @General Stuck:

    Stuck, you goddamned moron, no one gives a wet rat’s ass about job creation during the Bush malAdministration. What they give a fuck about is Obama’s performance.

    His performance has been abominable:

    The U-6 rate has gone from 15.0 in Feb 09 to 16.1 now.
    Labor force participation has gone from 65.7% to 63.9%

    We are going backwards, dumbfuck, not forwards, despite the meager amount of jobs created during Obama’s term.

  105. 105.

    Mark S.

    September 1, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Jee-sus

    Eyebrows shot up all over the country Thursday following news that that the Republican Party in Pima County, AZ — home to Tucson and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ (D) district — is raffling off a Glock similar to the one used to shoot Giffords in the head in January.

    I’m not always certain our opponents are human.

  106. 106.

    Steeplejack

    September 1, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Good plan.

  107. 107.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    September 1, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Summer on the south Oregon coast really sucked this year. Clear with low to mid 50’s at night, foggy/cloudy until 2-3 PM, warming to mid 60’s (if the clouds/fog clears). All damned summer long. Yesterday we finally hit the mid 70’s and sunny all day. Today was in the low 90’s and it was heaven. We went and hit the river after work, did some tubing and swimming.

    And soaked up the sun!

    What’s odd about our climate here is that the hotter it gets inland (Medford, Grants Pass area) the cooler and foggier it is here. Their temps just dropped and now our summer can start, as usual. Our weather usually stays like this into November but with the way it was last year we might have another short ‘summer’.

  108. 108.

    General Stuck

    September 1, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    @WyldPirate:

    You and Dennis ought to get a room and life size doll of Obama, to go to town with. The two of you and a number of others that frequent this blog are no different than the republicans with the Obama Derangement Syndrome.

    I like Obama, and think he has done a decent job turning around the mess he was handed. I don’t apologize for that to any foul mouth psycho punks on blogs, or anyone else.

    I offered up a good faith appraisal Of what is going on, and we end up with shit for brains trolls, hijacking another thread for the Obama bashing/hate

  109. 109.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 2, 2011 at 12:00 am

    @General Stuck:
    Good to hear the I’m not affecting you. You keep hanging on and if the outcome in ’12 is bad you’ll have the bonus of being able to blame people like me. I am not a fatalist although I’ve lived through more fatal situations than you will ever know in your wildest imaginings. I’m a realist, a long time Democratic activist, and to me at this point Obama’s chances for re-election don’t look all that good. That is, believe or not, a great source of sorrow for me. Why? Because if Obama fails in ’12 that will close the door to the presidency for persons of color for the foreseeable future. His failure to be re-elected may consign us to a lifetime of white-guy presidents and that will deprive us all of the abilities of many Americans.

  110. 110.

    CaseyL

    September 2, 2011 at 12:06 am

    @Mark S.:

    I’m not always certain our opponents are human.

    I understand where you’re coming from, but the sad fact is that no species except humans go in for this kind of sadistic, poisonous “irony.”

    Unless, by not-human, you mean “scum-crusted, mucous-brained vomit-souled demons from Hell,” in which case I agree with you :)

  111. 111.

    General Stuck

    September 2, 2011 at 12:09 am

    @Dennis SGMM:

    I’m a realist, a long time Democratic activist, and to me at this point Obama’s chances for re-election don’t look all that good.

    No you aren’t. You are an Obama hater, and the reason for that likely has nothing to do with politics, I suspect. And I won’t be blaming you for anything, because you are simply another nameless wanker on the internet, and not worth the trouble.

    I have said before that if Obama were not reelected, which I don’t think it is a cinch, given the number of stupid voters, anyways, a one term president Obama has been one of the most productive ever, and he will leave a legacy few past or future presidents can match.

    I’m a realist, a long time Democratic activist, and to me at this point Obama’s chances for re-election don’t look all that good. That is, believe or not, a great source of sorrow for me. Why? Because if Obama fails in ‘12 that will close the door to the presidency for persons of color for the foreseeable future. His failure to be re-elected may consign us to a lifetime of white-guy presidents and that will deprive us all of the abilities of many Americans.

    This is some pathetic commentary. Some of the most pathetic I have ever read on this blog. And no, I don’t believe you. Not a word.

  112. 112.

    Mark S.

    September 2, 2011 at 12:25 am

    @Mark S.:

    D’oh! I just noticed that Levenson had already written about that.

  113. 113.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 2, 2011 at 12:39 am

    @General Stuck:
    An Obama hater? You’re either very drunk or you’ve lost touch with reality. Your posts about process are usually very good and worth the read. When you venture into schoolyard billingsgate you just look foolish, Skepticism about Obama’s chances for re-election do not equal hatred for Obama. Your immediate grab for “hatred” as the reason for criticism of Obama suggests that you would prefer to comfort yourself with dreams that somehow his Obamaness will overcome the very real obstacles to his re-election. While you continue to jerk off with that I’ll be out knocking on doors and phone banking in a newly redistricted California in hopes of knocking off the execrable David Dreier and giving Obama a second term.

  114. 114.

    General Stuck

    September 2, 2011 at 1:04 am

    @Dennis SGMM:

    somehow his Obamaness

    Your firebagger colors are showing.

    , Skepticism about Obama’s chances for re-election do not equal hatred for Obama.

    I never said it did. I think the Hate comes from some other place.

    While you continue to jerk off with that I’ll be out knocking on doors and phone banking in a newly redistricted California in hopes of knocking off the execrable David Dreier and giving Obama a second term.

    I was wondering when you were gonna throw up the “I’m a better democrat, or liberal” defense. People that do that I never pay much attention to. It wreaks of smug superiority.

    We could do this all night, but I don’t see the point. I don’t how many ways I can say I think you are full of shit, but I guess it’s your choice.

  115. 115.

    General Stuck

    September 2, 2011 at 1:19 am

    @General Stuck:

    Well, if that is it then, I’m off to bed for a good nights sleep, hopefully. To be ready for another day of virtual head butting with Dennis and the rest of our sweetheart firebaggers.

    “His Obamaness” that’s a new one to be filed in the “firebagging for dummies” play book.

  116. 116.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 2, 2011 at 1:24 am

    Going door to door leads neither to smugness or superiority.
    Phone banking is pretty much the same. It’s what I do and what I’ve done since since 1968. My work on behalf of Democrats doesn’t lend one stitch of validity to my opinions. They’re my opinions and, like assholes, everybody has one and they probably stink.
    You, on the other hand have an amazing amount of gall in accusing anyone of smug superiority. For someone whose entire contribution to the Democratic party is to lash out at those who are critical of Obama on a fucking blog is the height of dilettantism.I’ll be a Democratic foot soldier until the day I die. You will be an ineffectual blog mouth warrior for the same span of time.

  117. 117.

    cxs

    September 2, 2011 at 1:37 am

    @burnspbesq: Congrats!

  118. 118.

    General Stuck

    September 2, 2011 at 1:38 am

    Well, gosh, there Dennis. I can only hope to someday reach your level of worthy democrat. In the meantime, when you reply to one of my comments, like this thread, with bullshit fatalism or Obama hate/bashing, it will be returned to sender, blog mouth warrior, or not. Blog Mouth Warrior, I like it!.

  119. 119.

    fuckwit

    September 2, 2011 at 4:50 am

    My god. I was just reading the Stuck vs Wildpyrate vs. Dennis stuff, and suddenly realize: the comments in this place look to be getting as fratricidal as dKos did earlier this year (haven’t been back there since then, so dunno if it’s gotten better or worse since then).

    Seriously. Arguing about how much Obama sucks or doesn’t suck or whatever, or trying to score points about who was right or wrong about whatever, is not going to solve shit for anyone.

    Economy’s fucked, Repugs are insane, the only thing I wanat to know is, what can I (not Obama, or anyone else I don’t control) do to fix it or at least help people survive it?

  120. 120.

    WyldPirate

    September 2, 2011 at 5:24 am

    @fuckwit:

    Economy’s fucked, Repugs are insane, the only thing I wanat to know is, what can I (not Obama, or anyone else I don’t control) do to fix it or at least help people survive it?

    There is a difference. Myself and Dennis SGGM were pointing out how bad the economy and job outlook is. Stuck hates the reality. He hates any criticism of Obama on the board at all.

    Just like ABL, and a whole shitload of blind-as-fuck Obama culotists.

    What does Stuck do when confronted with data about Obama’s poor record and fecklessness? He accuses people of being a racist.

    Yesterday he attacked my profession and my professional ability simply because of my criticism of Obama, when, in fact, he knows jack shit about me. He simply was too fucking stupid to rebut the facts.

    Stuck is a boot-licking Obama cultist of the worst sort. He wouldn’t criticize Obama if he were sacrificing children and drinking their blood on the Mall. Neither would ABL and a whole fuck load of other jackassess that post here.

  121. 121.

    Johannes

    September 2, 2011 at 6:38 am

    @WyldPirate: I would have to, reluctantly, object to the blood drinking. Just not sanitary.

  122. 122.

    General Stuck

    September 2, 2011 at 8:03 am

    @Johannes:

    I would have to, reluctantly, object to the blood drinking. Just not sanitary.

    Not to worry, it’s blessed by 16 vestal virgins, so weez R good to go. Tastes like chicken.

  123. 123.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    September 2, 2011 at 8:19 am

    @burnspbesq: Sweet. Thomas Moser Furniture catalog = furniture p0rn.

  124. 124.

    shortstop

    September 2, 2011 at 10:24 am

    @burnspbesq: Invoicing my clients is something I often procrastinate because it’s a pain in the ass and there’s always more work that needs to be done now. Delaying billing is not, as you may imagine, a savvy practice, although I do enjoy the giant deposits that come from having put it off. You won’t have the same problem because of your law firm background, which required you to bill constantly.

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