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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Local fishwrap (which is Lord Loves Me Some Ducks! central) is of course devoting massive column inches to the LSU/UofO game, especially all those green and yellow clad fans who have traveled to the Big D to see the game live in the stadium of the most pretentious NFL franchise, ever.

  2. 2.

    The Dangerman

    I’ve lost count; has Oregon or LSU had the most players arrested recently?

    Between that and Musberger, I guess I’m watching BSU and UG.

    Edit: I thought ND was supposed to be good?

  4. 4.

    lamh32

    umm ok, I just might be the only person from Cajun country who could care less about an LSU athletic fight, but I’m a loyal hometown girl, so…

    GEAUX LSU!

  6. 6.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @The Dangerman:

    Oregon is working on getting those arrest numbers up.

    The QB says, sure, I was in the rented BMW that was clocked at 118mph on I5, but I was asleep…

  7. 7.

    Dee Loralei

    Y’all let me know when Boise State and Oregon kick some butt, cause I will so switch channels to watch that!

  18. 18.

    The Dangerman

    7-0 Dogs; on the upside, if BSU goes down, no NC talk from them this year.

    Does Georgia have a sponsorship deal with a cough syrup?

  24. 24.

    The Dangerman

    @Corner Stone:

    Where did they find so many kids from the Georgia family to field a team?

    I finally see their “names”; another fashion faux pas. Ghastly.

    On the flip side, these uni’s might work well for this winter’s Nutcracker Suite production.

  25. 25.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Man, that high-test Duck offense is having problems in the red zone, it seems…OR 6 LSU 3.

  30. 30.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Dee Loralei:

    The problem with a 16 team league, as geographically disperse as one that reaches half way across the friggin’ continent, is that it, frankly, dilutes the brand. Of course, I remember when it was the Pac-8, and you had to have ocean front views from your state to be in it. How often will even the Pac-12 teams play each other? There are some things that can’t be changed…Oregon will always have Oregon State, Washington State, and Washington on its schedule. Taking out the CA and AZ schools for these in the Rockies and even farther east schools is, well, just not very organic.

  33. 33.

    RareSanity

    Hooray…college football trash talking thread!

    As a guy that played in the (slightly) more sane ACC I love these! Even though I went to Georgia Tech, I was always a UGA football fan. They had Herschel Walker, how could you not be a fan of that guy?

    ETA: I grew up in Atlanta, that’s why I was a Georgia fan. Wanted to play at UGA but they don’t have engineering. :-(

    So I’ll be the SEC homer…

    That being said, Georgia’s helmets are fugly. I like the new uniforms, but those helmets are hideous.

  36. 36.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @efgoldman:

    Yeah, and there’s that utterly obscene $3 billion (yes, billion with a b) deal the Pac-12 signed with ESPN and Fox.

    It’s all about the money, as usual. All other values are lost in the scramble for the lucre.

  37. 37.

    Cacti

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    The problem with a 16 team league, as geographically disperse as one that reaches half way across the friggin’ continent, is that it, frankly, dilutes the brand.

    The proposed Pac-16 would span 3 time zones.

    Makes sense to me.

  39. 39.

    Dee Loralei

    @Villago Delenda Est: Oh I agree. And it’s going to make traveling for the teams and their fans even more difficult. But my guess is it’ll be 4 super-conferences and then 1-A’s. But I’d seriously much rather be in the PAC 100 than in the SEC, I hate the SEC.

    And Bebe at the Big12 last year should have secured 2 teams to make up for Neb and Co leaving. But he didn’t. And now we’re stuck with those fuckin ingrates at A&M deciding that they can leave the Big12. Well I hope the SEC turns them down. And then they can be some ugly princess no one wants and they can go play for the Mountain West or someone. I’m blaming this all on fucking Rick Perry.

  41. 41.

    JPL

    Boise State has orange dutch girl shoes and GA’s uniforms look like they should have marched in the dragon.com parade this morning.

  42. 42.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Dee Loralei: The ultimate lesson from all this conference shifting is that major college conferences shouldn’t put numbers in their names. Math fail!

  45. 45.

    RareSanity

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    what is that deal right above the numbers, next to the collar of the jersey?

    I think it’s called “flair”…LOL

    I tend to like the “funky” uniforms, just don’t screw up the helmet. I like what Oregon does, sure some of the uniforms are pretty bad. But, as a player, putting on a different, NIKE made uniform each week, is cool as hell!

  48. 48.

    Yutsano

    The Boise State alumnus is I, said the fly. Yes I have indeed stood on the Smurf Turf. Connected with fellow Broncs on Book of Faces as well.

    Flipping between the two games with my dad. So far bad tackling by BSU and spotty offense on Oregon’s side.

  49. 49.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @RareSanity:

    I think it’s called “flair”…LOL

    How many pieces of “flair” was it? 10? 12? And if you met the minimum, and didn’t go beyond, that was a sign of being a slacker?

  52. 52.

    RareSanity

    @efgoldman:

    I think Bo was even better.

    Blasphemy!

    Bo Jackson was really good (I think word “great” is overused) in college but, he was actually more dominate in the pros than he was at Auburn.

    Herschel Walker was a much more dominate back in college than Bo. He almost single handedly won the national championship back in 1980.

  55. 55.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @efgoldman:

    Herschel Walker was a much more dominate back in college than Bo.

    You know who else was a dominant back in college?

    That’s right. OJ!

  56. 56.

    RareSanity

    @efgoldman:

    See, that’s what happens when an old man relies on memory. I’m remembering Bo as a pro, I’m sure.

    Same thing happens to me with Troy Aikman. He was a much better pro than a college player…how many people remember that he actually played at Oklahoma before transferring to UCLA?

  58. 58.

    Dee Loralei

    Hahha, FYWP. I just announced OU’s most recent touchdown. By typing in: Touchdown!!

    And wp said my comment was deleted because I’d already typed that!

    I’m gonna have to figure out more and better different ways to do that, or me and WP will come to blows before this season is out!

  59. 59.

    Southern Beale

    Hey here’s an idea: let’s just add the words “job creation” to every bill, that’s the magic fairy dust we need!

    In the House, for instance, Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.) had previously failed to win passage of a bill to help the soda-ash mining industry in her state. This year, she introduced the same idea with a new name: “Soda Ash Royalty Extension, Job Creation, and Export Enhancement Act of 2011.”

  60. 60.

    Cacti

    @efgoldman:

    See, that’s what happens when an old man relies on memory. I’m remembering Bo as a pro, I’m sure.

    Bo actually never realized his full potential as NFL player, because he was playing only about 10 games a season so he could play baseball too.

    Should have picked one and stuck with it.

  64. 64.

    JR

    Marshall grad here, but WVU fan from the cradle. Mom, Dad, wife, brother, some cousins, all Mountaineers. When I was a little boy we would leave for Morgantown at 6 am… it was before four lane modern roads.

    Watched WVU lose a lot of games to PSU, but still couldn’t believe it when they joined the Big 10 (+ 0ne).

    Tomorrow WVU and Marshall play, and I’ll have to listen on the radio, like back in the late 50s, before cable was invented.

    I remember plowing through snow to get to a game with my Dad cursing like a sailor – he was a refined gentleman, ‘cept for driving and during a WVU game.

    Big East rulz! That is all.

    JR

    Edited to ask: When did they start interrupting football games on account of weather? Cause that’s seriously wrong. The whole point of football is to play no matter how bad the weather is!!!

    Lightning? Everybody dies of something. To be struck by a bolt of lightning during a holy game of football is to be instantly sainted by the FSM, or something like that. Maybe Braised?

  67. 67.

    Dee Loralei

    @RareSanity: I do, I was at OU at that time. I was also there when JC Watts was QB and when Marcus Dupree was there.Spencer Tillman and The Boz was there too.

    God, I love college football.

    Looks like OU just recovered a fumble. Woohoo!

  70. 70.

    Corner Stone

    @Dee Loralei:

    I was also there when JC Watts was QB and when Marcus Dupree was there.Spencer Tillman and The Boz was there too.

    By any chance did you ever bring lunch out to where they were watching oil derricks go up and down for their no-show jobs?

  72. 72.

    Corner Stone

    @JR:

    To be struck by a bolt of lightning during a holy game of football is to be instantly sainted by the FSM, or something like that

    How many virgins can I score for that demise?

  74. 74.

    tesslibrarian

    Yes, the Georgia helmets are hideous. But they are for this game only.

    Damn I wish the Dawgs would pull it together on offense. Our D is looking way better than in the past, but the offense is struggling.

    As much of a service to all of college football beating Boise State would be, I’d rather the Dawgs beat SC next week. It’s division, and way more important in the long run.

  77. 77.

    RareSanity

    @Corner Stone:

    No sir, I am not…

    Air Force’s option offense is pretty impressive, but, as far as the decisions that needed to be made during the process of the triple option, Holieway was an absolute virtuoso.

    He was amazing. There is not one QB that Air Force could roll out that could hold his jock.

  79. 79.

    Dee Loralei

    @Corner Stone: I remember Barry Switzer changed the entire offense to fit Aikman better, but Aikman got an injury and was out a few games, so Barry had to change it back for the back-up and then when Troy was healthy enough to play again, it was too late in the season to alter it again or something.

    My memory may be off on some of it, but at the time I remember thinking that what Switzer did was pretty logical and seemed to be legit and it wasn’t Barry just being his usual lying asswipe self.

    Big rumor on campus was Aikman was gay, gay. And that was from my gay friends, so it wasn’t just gossip from the straights to try to make Troy look bad for whatever reason.

    All I really remember was Aikman was a whiny-butt.

    And my Sooners have scored again, and given up a TD as well.

  82. 82.

    RareSanity

    @tesslibrarian:

    As much of a service to all of college football beating Boise State would be, I’d rather the Dawgs beat SC next week. It’s division, and way more important in the long run.

    If UGA loses to Boise, Mark Richt is going to be in deep doggie doo doo…

  91. 91.

    RareSanity

    @efgoldman:

    Well, for one thing, the AF quarterbacks actually have to go to class…

    Well, now your changing the argument…

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Air Force?!? Air Force?!?

    I’m not here to fluff Air Force, it was efgoldman that started the whole thing. I didn’t say they were good, but all of the movement and misdirection they use is pretty impressive. You know, in a fun to watch way, not in a national championship way.

    Although there is a bit of humor in watching a bunch a short legged white guys run around like chickens with their heads cut off…

  92. 92.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    If the Big 12 dies, what is to be done with one of the nations best basketball programs, Kansas? Frankly is the Pac-12 becomes the super Pac-16, how about dropping Washington State, and bringing in UNLV, or Boise St, as well as the two Oklahoma schools(I don’t think Boone Pickens money will leave his OSU Cowboys in some 2nd rate conference)
    and include Kansas for B-Ball exposure.

  93. 93.

    tesslibrarian

    @RareSanity: No, he will only be in trouble if he loses to SC.

    And sven, it isn’t SEC exceptionalism to want a team to play more than a couple real games per season before starting a national whining campaign about their right to play for the national title. I’m pretty sure Pac10, ACC, Big 12 would all like ESPN to have another storyline than how the other conferences and the BCS are big meanies to the Broncos.

  94. 94.

    RareSanity

    @JPL:

    he’s a good christian man and they say their prayers before hand.

    If you are a head coach at The University of Georgia and you don’t win, not even Jebus can save you.

  95. 95.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @tesslibrarian:

    it isn’t SEC exceptionalism to want a team to play more than a couple real games per season before starting a national whining campaign about their right to play for the national title.

    It is SEC exceptionalism to refuse to schedule a team so they can play those games every season. Glad to see Ga. be the exception to the rule.

  97. 97.

    Foxhunter

    Since no one has mentioned it yet, the UGA uniforms are required wear per their contract with Nike. So, the corporate sell out continues across NCAA land…

    I’m knee deep in UGA fan land, and believe me, NONE of the hard core crowd like one item on the ‘Combat’ uni.

    You can order your replica here, direct from Nike. Uh, no thanks.

  100. 100.

    The Dangerman

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    The big rumor in DFW was that Aikman was gay too.

    I heard similar in LA (insert obligatory “not that there’s anything wrong with that”) even though he was reportedly dating a variety of actresses (insert Tom Cruise reference here).

  102. 102.

    Comrade Kevin

    @Origuy: I don’t know why they still bother either. When I was a kid, they could get a significant number of people to show up at Stanford stadium for that game, but not any more.

    Having grown up in Palo Alto, I still watch Stanford football, as my alma mater, Santa Clara, dropped football back in the 1990s.

  103. 103.

    RareSanity

    @tesslibrarian:

    No, he will only be in trouble if he loses to SC.

    He’s going to be in trouble then. The way they are looking tonight, there is nothing that tells me that they are a better team than SC.

    Buckle up, it’s going to be a bumpy ride this year…

  104. 104.

    Foxhunter

    @arguingwithsignposts: Florida Gators made a name for themselves using the patsy scheduling theory. Their former assistant AD, Greg McGarity, came up with this plan and he is now AD at UGA.

    Hopefully this will not become part of UGA’s scheduling theory. I don’t need to see three Lousiana Tech’s on my schedule every year (with all due respect to La Tech).

  106. 106.

    Dee Loralei

    @arguingwithsignposts: Oh honey, LOL, I didn’t mean to imply there was anything wrong with it. I guess I meant that while folks were more open about it in the 80’s, it still wasn’t really as accepted as it is now. And you never ever heard that about any sports guys, especially big time players in the pros our at the big football schools either.

    I look forward to the day that big ol’ brusin’ footballers can be as gay as they want to be off the field.

  107. 107.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: Glad I made a good buck on the tickets for this game because I may not break even on the Florida tix. We’ll see if we really can wear these dudes down.

  112. 112.

    Dee Loralei

    @khead: Yea but my point in the Aikman thing was that they changed to offense for him, he got hurt, they changed it back for Holieway and when Aikman came back he demanded they change it back for him and Switzer said, Dude, we got Holieway running this crazy well, we can’t change it again during the season for you, we’ll talk next season. And Aikman said, I don’t wanna play option, I’m gonna take my ball and go to LA.

    See, that’s what I was trying to say about Switzer being mostly reasonable in this one instance, and not his usual asshole self.

  115. 115.

    tesslibrarian

    @arguingwithsignposts: It’s primarily a money issue. Most SEC teams want 7 home games, which precludes scheduling a home-home series with other teams, because good teams won’t come play you unless you agree to put butts in their stadium seats as well. The cross-country travel isn’t popular with the schools, either, on either end, but we’ll see if that changes once/if A&M joins.

    ESPN set up this game; 8 teams had to rearrange schedules for this matchup to happen. We do have a home-home set up for Clemson 2013-14, then Ohio State in 2020-21. But all bigger teams want some patsies mixed into their schedules now.

  117. 117.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Foxhunter: the players need to have their heads examined if they liked that uni. no offense, Raven, but that is some grade-A uggly.

  119. 119.

    Lockewasright

    42 – 0. Sure it was against a tune up opponent, but lots of teams are playing tune ups today. How many shut outs so far?

  120. 120.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @tesslibrarian: Tess, ESPN didn’t set up the game. Chik-fil-A did, and they paid out serious money to buy out the games from the other teams. millions, in fact.

    ETA: I’m talking about the Boise State/Georgia game, not the OU/School of the Infirmed game.

  121. 121.

    tesslibrarian

    @RareSanity: Yeah, but our saving grace for that is who knows which Garcia will show up. Heck, I’m not sure even Garcia knows.

    @Foxhunter: It’s happening already. We just signed an agreement to pay some Louisiana school (@Lafayette, maybe?) $2M to come get beat in a couple of years. As long as he keeps our bye week before Florida, though, I’ll try not to be too bitchy about those miserable, hot 1pm kickoffs.

    @Corner Stone: yeah, yeah. Went to hs in SC, most of my friends are USC fans.

    Crowell needs to get his hair in his helmet…/old coot

  122. 122.

    RareSanity

    @efgoldman:

    I agree on Musberger.

    Athletes at major programs haven’t been “student-athletes” in a long time. It’s one of the main reasons ND sucks now. Former coach Charlie Weiss, and current coach Chip Kelly, have been begging to have admissions requirements for football players lowered.

  124. 124.

    tesslibrarian

    Going back to the game. Boise State scores when I’m looking at the computer, and a childhood listening to Larry Munson has me convinced that I’m somehow jinxing things by not giving my full attention.

  127. 127.

    Foxhunter

    @tesslibrarian: By all means, keep the bye week. It’s done us sooooo much good prior to the UF game for the last 18 years.

    /not old coot, tired of losing to Florida. lol.

  128. 128.

    RareSanity

    @tesslibrarian:

    Yeah, but our saving grace for that is who knows which Garcia will show up. Heck, I’m not sure even Garcia knows.

    We know which Marcus Lattimore is showing up though.

    The same one that showed up last year, but this time, a year better.

  131. 131.

    The Dangerman

    All you talking about Richt’s seat being hot reminded me that BSU’s coach would look mighty good on the UCLA sidelines (Neuheisel’s seat is hot to the color of the UGA uniforms).

  133. 133.

    AA+ Bonds

    I think the Democrats dropped the ball on the Perry chain email recitation that DougJ wrote about. This was time to double down on Perry; it could have sunk his campaign, and I genuinely believe that is the right thing for the country.

    The conspiracy theory that Perry cited was famously cited by another man disgruntled with Obama about a year ago.

    That man was Byron Williams, the 45-year-old loner who was arrested on his way to shoot up the Tides Center, the ACLU office, and murder who knows how many innocent people.

    In the wake of Anders Breivik, this would be an excellent opportunity for major Democratic figures to sink Perry now. Since the conspiracy theory is so manifestly false, so outlandishly constructed, and can be directly linked to an act of political violence, Perry could be marginalized, here, now, among the gutless centrists of the media.

  135. 135.

    joe73112

    @Dee Loralei: hopefully you have switched from OU-TU to a real game by now. (I can say that, having degrees from both schools!)

  138. 138.

    Dee Loralei

    The way the BCS scores it actually makes more sense to play easier teams for your out of conference games. I think a huge win counts more than a loss or close win to a ranked opponent. At least a few years ago it did. And they seem to change it every year. But remember most of these games are scheduled years in advance.

    When Stoops first came to OU, we played at least 2 tough opponents in our out games. A couple of years it was Alabama in home/home games. And I honestly think that serves you better later in the season in your tough conference games. And in your bowl games.

    And don’t get me wrong, I hate the BCS . I think it should be pure playoffs, within the bowl system. Every other sport and every other football league can do playoffs, but for some reason, none of these University Presidents can figure out how to do it.

    And Boomer Sooner, another TD!

  139. 139.

    RareSanity

    @efgoldman:

    Too much money involved now. BCS athletes, that are high achieving students, are a rare breed.

    Look at the big deal that was made about the Florida State player that was a Rhodes scholar. It IS a big deal, but it was almost like a verified sighting of a Unicorn.

  140. 140.

    The Dangerman

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    UCLA has a football team?

    They play in the Rose Bowl and they sell tickets; still, not sure I’d call it a football team, per se.

    I think it’s the curse of Cade McNown (who was a raging asshole) and Handicap ParkingGate (have you ever tried to park on the UCLA campus)? Ever since, the team has sucked.

  143. 143.

    RareSanity

    @AA+ Bonds:

    WTF? This is a college football thread, there will be plenty of other threads more suited for hippie punching.

    So…get with the pigskin or GTFO!

  147. 147.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Comrade Kevin: There seems to be some confusion about the use of the term “open thread” around here. Seems to me an “open thread” doesn’t have a topic. AL does this a lot too – calls an open thread, then gives a topic.

  148. 148.

    Foxhunter

    @Dee Loralei:

    none of these University Presidents can figure out how to do it

    It isn’t the University Presidents making the playoff decision. It’s the conference heads and BCS chiefs keeping the conversation from ever moving beyond talk show fodder.

    And….UGA still cannot wrap tackle.

  151. 151.

    The Dangerman

    Thanks Georgia; we can all look forward to BSU getting their asses handed to them in mid-January.

    Look for coal in your stockings this year.

  154. 154.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @efgoldman: Richt is a good guy, he had it and now he’s lost it. I don’t care for his evangelical bullshit but I wish him well.

  156. 156.

    RareSanity

    Whelp, after this season, Coach Richt is going to have a lot more free time for his missionary work.

  158. 158.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    I bet the guy who paid $200 each for my upper deck tickets is having a great time.

    eta I’m trying to remember how far ahead Va Tech was over the dawgs in the Chicken bowl Stafford’s freshman year?

  160. 160.

    jl

    “Boise State v. Georgia/ LSU v. Oregon Open Thread”

    It’s too early for you American football fanatics to be doubling up on the games.

    So, is this a tag team football sporting match, like pro wrestling, or what? Who are the bad guys?

    When are the Gritty Little Bruins playing? Though, not sure they are good enough to show on TV.

  161. 161.

    The Dangerman

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I’m rooting for 16 undefeated teams, personally.

    But it only matters if you start the year ranked high (which BSU does this year)…

    …hold on, Georgia for the TD. I had Auburn finished this morning, too, so…

  163. 163.

    RareSanity

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    I think it was mostly timing for Richt in the beginning. Remember, his earlier years saw Spurrier and Saban go to the NFL and Phil Fulmer losing his touch. Once Urban Meyer got to Florida, Spurrier got to SC and Saban got to Bama, it’s been all downhill.

  167. 167.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Foxhunter: I was there with my Hokie family, I knew it was steep. They actually did a little thing in the Athens paper about our “family feud”.

  176. 176.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: Well, I don’t think Boise was ranked #5 because they were playing us, they are a really good football team. Georgia is not.

  178. 178.

    Foxhunter

    @RareSanity:

    I don’t think Georgia is near the “elite” program most of its fans think it is

    THIS. I’m a UGA grad and you are spot on with this statement. Love my team, but some of the fanbase is a bit delusional about our place in the FBS food chain.

  179. 179.

    jl

    This if off topic, but thought I would post this interesting news: S and P rating subprime bonds higher than US treasuries. Just a one of those bizarre oddball human interest stories people might want to follow up on.

    Experts Question Ratings After S&P Gives Subprime Bonds Higher Rating Than U.S. Debt
    Brian Beutler, September 2, 2011, 5:18PM


    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/investors-knock-sp-for-giving-subprime-bonds-higher-rating-than-us-debt-4.php?ref=fpa

    Actually there are connections between this brutal corrupt asininity and football, so not totally off topic, but probably a thread full of football fans is not the place to explore that topic

    Important Note: the horrible vista the lies before an SF Bay Area resident wrt football has absolutely nothing to do with me being down no F***ball. Nothing at all.

    Cripes the Raiders have already stunk up the place enough for a whole season, and they haven’t even played the first regular season game.

    I gotta a go. I saw a leaflet stapled to a telephone pole on my way to the market. Something about some minor league club, Goldrushers or something, looking for a quarterback. Might was well check it out.

  180. 180.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Foxhunter: Yea it was fun and with Panic playing next door it was a trippy scene. My father-in-law truly loved his Hokies and it was his last trip down here.

  186. 186.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: I dunno, we have no running game and you know how Bobo get’s hammered for his play calling. Throw in 7 penalties (so far) and I don’t know. This defense doesn’t look one bit better than they did last year even with the jumbo at nose and a year of experience in the 4-3.

    eta and what I really don’t see is heart

  190. 190.

    Foxhunter

    @arguingwithsignposts: Broken clock and all that.

    Is kind of humorous, though. ND ranked #16 and loses today. By Monday they will be ranked #11 and Beano Cook will be calling for them to with the MNC (Mythical National Championship).

  192. 192.

    Foxhunter

    @Comrade Kevin:

    Notre Dame is the most consistently overrated team in the history of college football.

    It’s as if the ND AD sends out a copy of Rudy to all the pollsters in July of every year. They have done nothing since….well, shit, I can’t even remember.

  193. 193.

    RareSanity

    @Foxhunter:

    I don’t really understand it. It’s quite obvious that while they definitely are a top 20 program, they are clearly not on the same level as Florida, LSU and Alabama on a year-to-year basis.

    They are the type of program that every once in a while, if all the stars align, are good enough to compete for a national championship. “Elite” programs have rare years when they aren’t in the mix for a title.

  195. 195.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @RareSanity: Okay, we should remember that Alabama spent a number of years in sanction purgatory looking for the second coming of the Bear. They haven’t always been “elite.”

  196. 196.

    Anonymous At Work

    Wasn’t gonna comment but to hear the announcers in teh OSU-LSU game EMBRACE AND CHEER ON Tressell is reprehensible. “Good for him.”?!!!?!??!

  197. 197.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: My first Georgia game was the 60 yarder by Butler to beat Clemson. I don’t know when you were here but I’ve always thought winning that National Championship is what’s responsible for that delusion.

  199. 199.

    RareSanity

    @JPL:

    I’m saying that The University of Georgia should be fielding better teams than they have been recently.

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):
    This is the problem. A football team is a reflection of their coach.

    The two years I played (well, I was on the team LOL) at GT, we played the Ray Geoff teams. They may not have been great, but those were some mean, nasty SOBs. These guys are are soft as tissue paper.

  204. 204.

    Foxhunter

    @RareSanity: I will say, in defense of Ma UGA, that the ‘elite’ status is as dynamic as its’ ever been.

    It wasn’t long ago that Alabama was fumbling around in the dark looking for the next Paul Bryant. EVERYONE in LSU land HATES Les Miles; let’s see how they fare this year without Jordan Jefferson. Florida suffered post-Spurrier and who knows what their furture may hold.

    I guess my point in all of this, parity, along with national recruited has (pardon the pun) really leveled the playing field. UGA caught lightniing in a bottle during Richt’s early years, but like Bobby Cox and the Atlanta Braves, they never could get over the hump and win when it counted. Maybe his time is up, but I don’t know what we could or would expect to get in another head coach. Do I like his gospel ways? Not really, but at the same time, I don’t care to sacrifice good character for a dick like Nick Saban.

    It’s a tough situation for me, since I’m not ready to have him fired, or quit. I just want some of our more rabid fan base to be a bit more realistic when it comes to expectations.

  207. 207.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Foxhunter: I agree with you about Richt and it’s looking like Donnan was even worse than imagined but I think we could expect more than 6-7 and that doesn’t really tell the story of how bad the last three years have been.

    Did you see Pollock on Gameday? He was really good.

  209. 209.

    Foxhunter

    href=”#comment-2757596″>RareSanity: Dubose, Franchione, Shula, Bill Curry…..Alabama had plenty of down years before Saban showed up.

  212. 212.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: I worked at Tech for a couple of years in the late 90’s. Used to go to Stooges where the bartender named “stick” was an old Jacket QB, quite a character.

  213. 213.

    Foxhunter

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): I agree about 6-7, but go read the dawgvent. Those idiots *demand* a 10 win season every year. Not even close to being realistic. It is annoying.

    Pollack – amazes me how much better suited he is for TV than he ever was for radio. Usually the other way around.

  215. 215.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Foxhunter: Oh yea, you don’t have to convince me about the idiots. I just love the game. With the Illini and Va Tech winning today it’s the first opening day in a while that more than one of my teams has won.

  217. 217.

    Foxhunter

    @RareSanity: My father was/is GT season ticket holder, so as a kid I went to all the games until i left for college in 89.

    Absolutely loved the heart of John Dewberry, and Shawn Jones was awesome. Too bad Ken Swilling never panned out to be a great one…he was a machine when healthy.

  219. 219.

    Foxhunter

    @RareSanity: If you were on the 93 team, you may remember that during the UGA game, someone hired out one of those promotional airplanes to tow a banner that read ‘Fire Ray Goof’.

    Good times in Athens. Then we hired the Ponzi-scheme’r’.

  220. 220.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: I had a bunch of buddies who played at Illinois in the 70’s. Even the guys on the scout team were really fine athletes.

  221. 221.

    Throwin Stones

    Thanks everyone.
    First batch of the peroxide, baking soda, and soap seemed to work pretty well.
    Updates forthcoming…

  222. 222.

    wrb

    @JPL:
    I’m waiting for the team that wears the clunky leather black and white saddle shoes all the girls wore in my kindergarden class. Until then I have no use for football.

  223. 223.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Foxhunter: I was standing in for a prof in a class when Goff was still an assistant. He brought Worley in and, thinking I was the professor, he gave me this big song and dance about how Tim had learned his lesson as and was going to bear down in the class. By the time he got out the door Worley was snoring in the back row!

  224. 224.

    RareSanity

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Yeah, Dewberry was before my time. I had to suffer under the insufferable Bill Lewis as a coach. O’Leary took over for him mid-season of my sophomore year, but after that year, I figured I probably wasn’t going to the NFL, so I decided to concentrate on the books.

    Turns out, I hated being a student at GT, the workload put a serious cramp in my social life. I ended up transferring to a smaller school in NC to finish up my degree.

  225. 225.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Foxhunter:

    Dec. 1, 1984: A day suitable for John Dewberry’s scrapbook in a life filled with them, particularly from the past two years.

    It dawned at breakfast in Athens when someone tossed a newspaper column onto Dewberry’s plate, stirring his competitive juices to a froth. It wound down with an arrest for drunk driving by what he maintains was an avenging, Dawg-loving cop.

    In between, he squired his football team, Georgia Tech, to a seismic 35-18 victory against his former team, Georgia. The game defined Dewberry as a quarterback and reserved his place in the pantheon of Yellow Jackets sports.

  227. 227.

    RareSanity

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    This is true. There were guys on the scout team with me that were better than the starters. However, big college football is like the NFL. Scholarship athletes, much like 1st round draft picks, get preferential treatment. They would have to absolutely suck out loud for a scout team guy to get a chance.

  230. 230.

    JPL

    @wrb: They seem to like neon for shoes but it might not be long for the saddle shoe look. The football clothing designers are not ready for that TV show What Not to Wear.

  232. 232.

    arguingwithsignposts

    All in all, I thought Boise State was pretty impressive. Poised, Classy. They held their own against an SEC team. Good on them.

    Now you Dawgs gotta handle them Cocks next week or the season’s over.

  233. 233.

    Foxhunter

    @RareSanity: I went to Tech in 89-90. Like you, it was too much school for my social yuk-yukking. Transferred to UGA to finish.

    Still root for those little guys at the North Avenue Trade School…but they just don’t have the recruiting base any longer.

    Night games at Bobby Dodd are something to behold….the view of the city is spectacular.

  234. 234.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @RareSanity: Are all scout team players non-scholarship? I thought one of my pals had a ride and he never played a down in a game.

  237. 237.

    RareSanity

    @Foxhunter:

    I will always have a soft spot for the Jackets. I was just a football fanatic when I was a kid and it’s not like the Falcons gave much to root for, so it was UGA. I still root for GT when they play UGA though.

    There is nothing to hate about GT football, it’s just a rootable program. Thursday night games in downtown Atlanta? Unbelieveable! I still remember the game we played FSU with Charlie Ward and Warrick Dunn on a Thursday night, it was awesome.

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    The scout team is usually walk-ons. There are scholarship players that are not good enough to get on the field, but they’re not on the scout team.

    Most of the scout team doesn’t even travel for road games.

  243. 243.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @tesslibrarian: That article doesn’t have a lot to say about ESPN’s influence. Money talks, bullshit walks. Was TV involved? Sure. But the *key* to scheduling that game was the fact that Chic-Fil-A was willing to grease the skids with huge money.

    And grace to you and your library.

  244. 244.

    PaulW

    South Florida beat Notre Dame. While ND isn’t the top-tier team it once was, this is still a remarkable feat for USF.

    Rule of thumb, never play South Florida in overtime or 2-hour rain delays.

    Meanwhile, Georgia is now fighting with Oregon over the “Worst Uniform Colors In Teh History of Mankind” Award. I swear to FSM, that red-on-red uni with grey-sided helmets hurt the eyes like never before…

    And I’m late to this argument. What’s going on about “librarians”?

  245. 245.

    PaulW

    @Foxhunter:

    Florida suffered post-Spurrier and who knows what their furture may hold.

    FIRE RON ZOOK! Oh, wait. We did.

    His replacement led UF to TWO national titles, one more than Ole Ball Coach, so I think the Gators did well post-Spurrier. ;-)

  247. 247.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @PaulW:

    USF is my alma mater. I’m always surprised at how well they do. When I was there I’m pretty sure we didn’t even HAVE a football team!

    ETA: I mean that quite literally.

  254. 254.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Yutsano: Have you seen people using rubber bands with them? Full disclosure: I am competent, not great, with chopsticks for an Anglo.

  255. 255.

    Yutsano

    @Omnes Omnibus: I have seen people do the great cheat with them. It really doesn’t help all that much, in fact since it restricts the motion of the wide tips it’s actually counterproductive. But hey if it makes them feel better I say go for it.

    I’m competent. I can get through a whole meal and pick up a single grain of rice and such. I’m still working on the cooking with them though.

    OT: I broke down and did Book of Faces. Can you nudge me in the proper direction to locate thee?

    EDIT: We can discuss upstairs also.

  256. 256.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Yutsano: Look at your fake wifey’s friends. I am by the cannon wearing sunglasses.

    ETA: The French cafe/boulangerie nearby has fan-fucking-tastic tartes. The best are the aux fruits and aux citron. Plus, the staff tends to be pretty girls who speak French. How can I go wrong by going there often?

  257. 257.

    Amir Khalid

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    I’ve seen “trainer” chopsticks with a metal spring between the pair to hold them in the right position.

    Using a rubber band would mean crossing the chopsticks, and trapping the morsel of food as though between scissor blades. I’m told that this is unrefined; one should grasp the food with the tips of the chopsticks.

    I’m Malay. My people traditionally don’t use cutlery to eat with; we use only the right hand. Not the left hand; like my fellow southpaw Paul Simon said, “That’s the hand you use … well, never mind.”

  258. 258.

    Yutsano

    @Omnes Omnibus: Sent. You’ll be the fifth person on this blog to know my full name.

    The French cafe/boulangerie nearby has fan-fucking-tastic tartes

    WANT!! Do they ship by chance?

  260. 260.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Amir Khalid: I learned to use them as a child. I just don’t do it enough to be better than competent. I was first taught to use them by an Indonesian friend of my Dad. For some reason, I thought that Malay used chopsticks. Obviously, I was wrong. One lives and learns. As far as the eating with the right hand only, I was the sponsoring officer of a Saudi officer when I was in the US Army Field Artillery course. Right handed eating with his family was de rigeur. BTW Arabian roasted chicken is unbelievably good.

  262. 262.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Georgia and Oregon are both sporting Nike’s appalling fashion atrocities this year. This is the common link between the two. Nike.

    Ducks can hold out for Roses, but National Championship is pretty much out of the question barring a lot of wild and crazy stuff happening. Didn’t look good against LSU…turnovers will just ruin your day every single time.

  263. 263.

    Amir Khalid

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    In Southeast Asia, we get exposed to a fair bit of Chinese culture and cuisine, so it’s quite common for non-Chinese people here to be familiar with using chopsticks.

    In Muslim culture the attitude toward the left hand is very much as Paul Simon describes it (is it a Jewish thing too?). Muslim southpaws probably remember being scolded at the dinner table as a kid for instinctively using the left hand. I eat rightie myself only when at formal Malay dinners where no cutlery is provided.

  265. 265.

    Anne Laurie

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    Seems to me an “open thread” doesn’t have a topic. AL does this a lot too – calls an open thread, then gives a topic.

    I do that so people will feel free to go off-topic. Of course, most BJ commentors will do that regardless, but if it says “Open Thread” right in the title then the hall monitors have that much less to bitch about.

    You’re all (to my knowledge) voluntary participants, so I can suggest a topic to start the conversation, right?

  266. 266.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Anne Laurie:

    You’re all (to my knowledge) voluntary participants, so I can suggest a topic to start the conversation, right?

    My parole officer forces me to be here. I believe it is cruel and (certainly) unusual punishment.

  267. 267.

    Anne Laurie

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My parole officer forces me to be here. I believe it is cruel and (certainly) unusual punishment.

    And yet some people say you are a paid troll :)

    #notintendedtobeafactualstatement

  268. 268.

    BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)

    @Amir Khalid:

    Discouraging the use of the left hand isn’t unique to muslim cultures in Asia. My wife is Korean and I didn’t know for almost 10 years that she’s a lefty. She was “encouraged” to only use her right hand(she only uses her left hand to use scissors). Her daughter(US born and raised) managed to avoid the “encouragement”, she writes with her left hand.

  269. 269.

    BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Malay food is yummy, I learned to cook some myself.

    Also:

    My parole officer forces me to be here. I believe it is cruel and (certainly) unusual punishment

    You might want to contact a Civil Libertarian about that, or according to toko_loco any Libertarian will do.

  270. 270.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla):

    Malay food is yummy, I learned to cook some myself.

    Somehow I have managed to eat a lot of Thai, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Lao, and Philippine food, but not, as far as I can recall, Malay. Odd, that.

    ETA:

    You might want to contact a Civil Libertarian about that, or according to toko_loco any Libertarian will do.

    I know that, in her mind, civil libertarians are libertarians, but I am sure it works the other way such that all libertarians are civil libertarians. But who knows?

  272. 272.

    Amir Khalid

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    If you’ve had Indonesian food, that arguably you have had Malay food. Malays and Indonesians are of the same ethnic stock, we speak more or less the same language, and we have pretty much the same culture with what are essentially local variations.

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