Watching Auburn trail Utah State myself.
Serious question- if the NCAA can get all worked up in a lather over little things like Terrelle Pryor selling an award he won, something which hurt no one and in no way impacts the integrity of the game, why the hell can’t they make those hicks in Idaho paint their god damned astroturf green, something that rightly offends everyone who is forced to look at it?
Cain
You’re not really forced to watch it.. just watch some other game. Problem solved!
4tehlulz
Boise State’s turf is a protest against green fascism.
Yutsano
Get over it white boy. That turf will stay as blue as Bronco blood.
ETA: It looks much more awesome in person.
Amir Khalid
If green Astroturf is rightly offensive to everyone, why compel “those hicks in Idaho” to paint it that color?
Me, I don’t think any sport should be played on Astroturf (of whatever color) except maybe field hockey.
Villago Delenda Est
Please, do not get me started on the fashion atrocities committed by my own UofO Fighting Ducks. Just don’t.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
What the fuck, I write that the goddamn smurf turf is blue, not green, and it gets deleted. Also, Pryor didn’t sell shhit he singed junk and the dealer sold it. AJ Green sold a jersey.
TheWorstPersonInTheWorld
Cole, how’s the hangover? Have you vomited into the chip bowl yet?
Boomer Sooner.
Rock Chalk Jayhawk.
phantomist
Multiturfism is spreading. Eastern Washington put in red turf last year.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Athens is a ghost town what with the game in the ATL and that stupid comic book thing all you geeks will know about going on too.
Yutsano
@Amir Khalid:
THIS!!
(And they’d still dye it blue.)
metalgirl
Since this is an open thread, I have to say that, so far, I’m loving my new Mac mini that arrived yesterday. My guy was up to 3am cloning the PC and setting up VMware so my old machine is on the mini and I can access both seamlessly. My phone, ipad, and email are all synching in one place and I have complete control of my address book :) Life is good and my older son is coming home from college for a few weeks and arrives tonight and I don’t have to work on Monday! BTW, from an open thread a few weeks ago about green smoothies, I looked up the cheaper blender recommended by Consumer Reports (the Ninja) and bought it — best $60 I’ve spent this year.
metalgirl
Since this is an open thread, I have to say that, so far, I’m loving my new Mac mini that arrived yesterday. My guy was up to 3am cloning the PC and setting up VMware so my old machine is on the mini and I can access both seamlessly. My phone, ipad, and email are all synching in one place and I have complete control of my address book :) Life is good and my older son is coming home from college for a few weeks and arrives tonight and I don’t have to work on Monday! BTW, from an open thread a few weeks ago about green smoothies, I looked up the cheaper blender recommended by Consumer Reports (the Ninja) and bought it — best $60 I’ve spent this year.
adolphus
I find the field jarring, but one thing it does for me is never lets me forget it is AstroTurf. I find myself rooting less for hard hitting and QB take downs when I am forced to remember those young men, who are getting paid a pittance for what they make for their schools, are being tackled on a hard surface that will end their careers, if they have any, years earlier than if they played on natural sod.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@metalgirl: Uh, it’s a COLLEGE FOOTBALL open thread.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@adolphus: oh please
adolphus
mealgirl: excellent news. I am considering buying a new mini to work with my aging MacBook, which I cannot afford to replace.
Amir Khalid
@Amir Khalid:
On second thought, not field hockey either. They should go back to playing on grass pitches.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
The Future of Playing Surfaces: Injury Prevention and Playability
To date, the optimum field conditions for both injury prevention and playability have yet to be determined. Ongoing research will help to determine which artificial fields are the safest, and it will also help to develop modifications of the existing products to reproduce the mechanical properties of a well-maintained grass.
Anonymous At Work
Boise State, and their turf, only offends those from conferences pre-determined to be “Big 6” that feel they have something to prove (Big East anyone?).
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Auburn is using a big poster of W’s face to send in plays!!!
FlipYrWhig
I enjoy the NFL, but I don’t get the passion people feel for the college game, and I groan every time I turn on ESPN for updates about late-season baseball and instead they’re minutely dissecting these poorly-played games between 19-year-olds from square states. Does not compute. Has it always been this massive, or is ESPN the tail wagging the dog? I don’t remember much passion for college football as a kid growing up in NJ in the ’70s and ’80s. I assume it was huge elsewhere and I just missed it.
comrade scott's agenda of rage
A white boy from West Virginny calling people from Idaho hicks.
Pot, meet Kettle.
Joe
Haters gonna hate.
khead
BC vs. N’western on ESPNU has been pretty good.
The Baylor/TCU game last night was awesome.
John Cole
@TheWorstPersonInTheWorld: Not hungover at all. Stop believing everything you read on the internet.
John Cole
@metalgirl: What exactly does a mac mini do?
Roger Moore
The reason that the NCAA cares about athletes selling their awards but doesn’t give a shit about blue fields is that their number one mission is to make sure that no money ever makes it into the hands of one of their “student” athletes. Think of them as Feudal Lords trying to oppress the serfs and just about everything they do will make more sense. Their biggest worry is that people will start seeing college athletes as people with rights rather than gladiators performing for their entertainment.
John Cole
@FlipYrWhig: Football has always been king in the Ohio Valley. Hell, some high school games are televised.
jeffreyw
Jade Jordan
Finally, someone talking about the important issues of the day. The Blue Turf is part of the Avatar Navi people takeover of the world.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@FlipYrWhig: What the fuck to you expect from Joisey? Of course it’s always been this “massive”. The pro game was considered about like being a pirate in the old days.
Roger Moore
@John Cole:
So we shouldn’t believe everything we read on your Twitter feed? I guess there weren’t any tweets about putting Pedialyte on ice, and this post came before evening WVa time, so we should have known that last night’s drinking didn’t get too far out of hand.
khead
Pretty much. I’ve been to Temple/WVU and Temple/Va Tech games in Philly where I could count the number of people in the stands.
I understand that it’s, well, Temple – but damn.
metalgirl
@John Cole: Everything!! It’s got Apple’s latest OS on it, Lion, and it has an improved email client that allows you to sort your inbox (which is still missing on the ipad). The only thing that doesn’t work right (again, by My Guy testing everything) is FaceTime, which is known to be buggy on Lion (so I expect a fix will come out soon). With the VMWare set on the “unity” view, I can open IE (required to VPN into work) and Photoshop (I have v6, very old, but it does what I need) as if they were apps on the mini (they ARE on the mini in a VM). LOVE IT!!!
arguingwithsignposts
@khead: College football doesn’t compute in the big cities, from my observations. Look at where college football draws – from the sticks. When you have an NFL team, not so much.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@khead: Teams like LSU will have 20,000+ people go to away games with NO chance of getting in the game. When they opened in Blacksburg about 7 years ago they showed up en masse on Thursday and took over a huge parking lot for three days. It’s a different world down here.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@metalgirl: And a thunderbolt port with nothing to plug into it. . .yet!
Southern Beale
Apparently Sarah Palin is giving a speech in which she accuses Obama of being a S0c1alist, etc. using her patented zings and digs and coded language, all attack.
I’m going to have to stay away from Twitter.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: The “sticks”, ha!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@metalgirl: Did you know you can set photoshop as your editor in iPhoto? Since the iPhoto one totally sucks I’d give it a try.
Amir Khalid
@FlipYrWhig:
The Wikipedia entry on the NFL shows an uneven geographical distribution of teams at that level, concentrated in the eastern part of the 48 states, with none at all in Alaska or Hawai’i. Chances are that your only prospect of a local American football team to support is often a college team. I would guess that’s why there is so much support for college football.
Are there really no semi-pro or amateur leagues in American football, as there are in soccer?
khead
Well, I was gonna say “It’s a southern thing”… maybe it’s a “boonies” thing. :)
But I had NEVER been to a college game that looked like an Atlanta Braves game circa 1986 before those Temple games.
It was pretty weird being in the old Vet with only 1-2K in attendance. We could hear what all the coaches were saying.
John Cole
@metalgirl: I guess what I mean is why buy a mac mini instead of a regular mac?
JPL
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): A friend called to see if I wanted to go to the game tonight and I said no. The traffic is going to be awful.
Jim C.
The Blue is a big selling point to BSU recruits as a unique attraction, is a part of the school’s tradition, and just another piece of the pageantry of college football. It doesn’t hurt anyone either.
Lighten up John. Nobody’s forcing you to watch.
Roger Moore
@arguingwithsignposts:
Don’t say that to anyone from Los Angeles. People around here take their college football very seriously, especially the USC/UCLA (or is that UCLA/USC?) game. Of course maybe that’s a response to getting the finger from the NFL for long enough to stop caring so much about the pro game.
arguingwithsignposts
@John Cole: shorter: a mac mini is an imac without the monitor.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@khead: I was at a Va Tech-Temple game in Blacksburg about 14 years ago. The crowd was great but it was obvious the Owl players were not interested, not the best way to draw interest at home.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
here is a better terrelle pryor question. why is he suspended by the nfl for things he did(alledgedly) in college. but jim tressel just took a job with the colts, no suspension?
TFinSF
Boise is a pretty nice little town. Not really all that hickish, relatively speaking.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@JPL: I sold my tickets for enough to pay for my season tickets!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: ding
khead
Also, couch burning now a felony in Morgantown.
They are gonna need a bigger jail.
Jim C.
TFinSF:
As someone who lives in Boise, I can vouch for that. It’s the rest of the state that is impossibly ass-backwards and hickish.
The Dangerman
@Villago Delenda Est:
The UO basketball court has to be one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in sport; WTF were they thinking?
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore:
LA is the obvious outlier.
But huge cities (NYC, DFW, Chicago, Philly, Miami, etc) that focus on college football? Not so much.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@khead: Now were talking about the sticks!
handy
@Southern Beale:
When does she not do that?
What’s funny is the media treats her like she is or has been in any way considering running. Talk about grifters gonna grift.
metalgirl
I didn’t buy the iMac because My Guy gave me a HUGE screen, mounted on an arm + a great sound system for my previous computer last year so I just didn’t need to buy them again. I’m sure people who buy iMacs are happy with them.
I also have to say that My Guy has had a mini that’s lived in my kitchen for 5 years and I’ve never been able to really use it. I think I attributed it to it being “different” but I think that it was really an issue of me being unmotivated to learn the differences (I can walk 30′ and use my own computer in the studio) but also that he had a trackball for a long time (which I hate) and he’s left-handed. I could have probably used it when he got the trackpad last year but I had already decided that it wasn’t for me.
This purchase was initiated by my high school Jr needing a better computer (his is a 2004+ Dell). No way was I buying him a new computer when he could the thrilled with my Acer that is from 2008.
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@John Cole:
From what i gathered it makes smoothies. Then again I just kinda skimmed the comment.
handy
@arguingwithsignposts:
Hard to admit being I went to that other school in LA, but USC football is a pretty big frickin deal in Southern California.
TFinSF
@Jim C.: I grew up in Utah, so I’m not throwing any stones today.
Kane
I did a google search to see what everyone was were talking about. Apparently there’s more than one blue football field.
Maybe if you play with the color dial on the teevee, it’s possible to turn the field green.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla): There’s an app for that!
khead
@efgoldman:
Hell yes. Utah State just scored again.
College football – for me – is all about the little guy.
Unless I laid the points against the little guy, of course. Heh.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Kane: Eastern Washington went with red.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@khead: Auburn sucks!
handy
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I kinda like it.
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Hells to the yes.
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@Villago Delenda Est:
The rest of the PAC-10(as of today PAC-12) have noticed the Ducks, eh unique fashion. And that new basketball court with the trees and all.
JPL
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): That is just wrong.
Roger Moore
@John Cole:
I assume the main reason is because it’s smaller and cheaper. If it’s powerful enough to do what you want and you don’t care about upgrading it yourself, it’s a much better buy than an iMac or a Mac Pro. It’s also quiet enough to use as a good entertainment PC, so it’s a good choice to plug into your big screen TV.
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@handy:
I think the term “other school in LA” would imply that USC is a school rather than a semi-pro football team.
ETA: There is however a fine university on LA’s westside.
JPL
Is anyone watching the USOpen? They have a blue court on green. Quite attractive also, too.
arguingwithsignposts
@efgoldman: The UT network is in trouble, since they can’t broadcast high school sports, last I heard.
FlipYrWhig
@Amir Khalid:
I’ve met semipro football players, so it exists, but not on a large scale. But you’ve pointed to what I as Sports Overlord would do with college football: organize it as local clubs that were for-profit businesses and paid their athletes, and eliminate the last remaining vestiges of the affiliation with educational institutions. If American football were organized like English football, the whole thing would make a lot more sense, and there would be no chronically confused and conflicted NCAA tsk-tsking “student-athletes.” I’d even throw promotion-relegation into the mix, so over time the Nebraska Cornhuskers Football Club could manage to become the equivalent of a major-league franchise, while the Washington Redskins Football Club could end up playing Boise and Arkansas. The illusion that college football has much at all to do with, you know, _college_, that should just be terminated once and for all, IMHO. Just let them be collections of local talent sharing in the millions of dollars their labor produces.
Southern Beale
Woopsies! Small business owners say taxes and regulation are NOT crushing them — in fact, many say regulation HELPS them! Death of another right wing meme!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@efgoldman: Especially if they go 6-7 again!
Cassidy
Because Boise State is the ESPN media darling.
handy
@BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla):
Heh. No argument there.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@arguingwithsignposts:
i think college football is pretty big, as is all football, in dallas. the one place in the country it really isn’t big, is the northeast.
Roger Moore
@arguingwithsignposts:
I don’t think it’s just LA; it may be more of an East/West thing. I think the SF Bay area cares a fair amount about Cal and Stanford, Seattle really likes the Huskies, Denver is serious about CU even though it’s in Boulder, etc. Maybe that’s because the NFL was giving the whole Western US the finger for a long time.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@FlipYrWhig: The dopey arena football is semi-semi-pro. When I was kid in Chicago they had a semi-pro league that was pretty good, I always like the name “Lake County Rifles”.
arguingwithsignposts
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: I don’t think so. It was sorta big when I lived in Fort Worth, because of TCU. SMU was a page 3 game writeup at best. But it wasn’t anywhere near Cowboys levels of insane fan behavior.
College fans were more focused on UT/A&M than local teams. That might have changed in 10 years, however.
ETA: I should mention that Chicago doesn’t seem to value Northwestern or U of I, which is not far down the road.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Cassidy: When they get their asses handed to them by my dawgs we won’t have to hear about them or the goddamn Horned Frogs anymore this year!
handy
@FlipYrWhig:
But but but–those strapping young bucks should be greatful they get a full ride to go to prestigious institution of higher learning! Pay no mind to the multi-billion dollar entity called the NCAA behind that curtain, he’s just making sure fair is fair and everyone is Playing By The Rules is all.
Villago Delenda Est
@arguingwithsignposts:
When the Washington Huskies are on a roll, Seattle goes nuts. When the Seahawks are on a roll, Seattle goes nuts.
The key thing is to be on a roll. College, NFL, not important. If you’re on a roll, Seattle goes nuts. Applies to the Mariners, too. If they’re hot, and the football teams are cold, then Seattle’s a baseball town, by gum. If the Mariners suck (like they do now) it’s Huskies/Seahawks, baby, and Seattle is a football town, by gum!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: My friends that went to the Illini-NW game at Wrigley last year would disagree. But, then again, they played at Illinois.
Roger Moore
@Southern Beale:
Ha, ha, ha! You made a funny! Since when have facts gotten in the way of the Right Wing repeating on of their memes? Next you’re going to point out that Clinton Era tax rates didn’t crush our economy, so the Republicans will have to drop the idea that letting the Bush tax cuts expire would lead to the end of the universe.
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@Roger Moore:
Tend to agree with you about the east-west thing. Remember though; the Bay Area has the 49’s and the Raiders, Seattle has the Seaweeds, and Denver has the Broncos. LA doesn’t have a NFL team, though they are trying to put a stadium in downtown(stupid) to attract a team(the Chargers).
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore: could be. i have less familiarity with west coast football allegiances. College football is crazy in the south, though. I know newspapers that make their living off covering the nearby college team. My own personal metric is the number of dumbasses with magnetic logo signs and antenna flags on the streets prior to a game. In my travels, the University of Tennessee has the highest ratio.
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Yes, and they played at Wrigley. :)
handy
@Villago Delenda Est:
That was my impression of Atlanta when I lived there for a spell. Mid 90s so lot of Braves lids could be seen, but the kids were all wearing either Troy Aikmen or Steve Young jerseys. Whoever the hell was the Falcons QB, not so much.
Ed in NJ
To commemorate the start of the college football season, let’s welcome Colorado and Utah to the Pac-12 with some good old-fashioned Fox racism
Fox Sports thinks this is funny
Fox Sports issued an apology today.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: Here’s a trivia for you. When Darryl Mudra coached EIU to the national championship he coached the games from the press box!
handy
@BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla):
I was hoping the Roski proposal in Walnut would get more traction, but I never hear about it anymore.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@handy: Proly Jeff George.
Roger Moore
@handy:
Notice that there’s no mention of “learn from” in the above statement. I’d have a much easier time accepting the NCAA’s claims about the integrity of student athletics if they bothered to take the student part nearly as seriously as the athlete part.
srv
Argh. Cactus Pryor RIP.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Utah State up 10 with 3:38 to go! WAR DAMN EAGLE!
arguingwithsignposts
personally, i’m glad some teams are playing high-stakes games early in the season, even though it lessens the potential BCS fuckups later when the “title” is on the line.
Yutsano
Utah State just did a play that took massive huevos. They deserve to win this just on that basis alone.
EDIT: And now Auburn is forcing stuff. This could get entertaining.
gbear
@John Cole:
New Device Desirable, Old Device Undesirable
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@handy:
A stadium outside of downtown would make much too much sense.
metalgirl
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): My Guy just explained to me what thunderbolt is. Cool when there’s something that I want that uses it :) Thanks for the heads up.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Yutsano: A 6 pt lead at that point in the game made it a pretty easy call. That personal foul was DUMB!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@metalgirl: I bought my pro the day it was available, still waiting!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
There ya go, keep him in bounds!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
horseshit
Roger Moore
@metalgirl:
It’s typical Apple technology leadership/forcing. With any new thing like Thunderbolt there’s a chicken and egg compatibility problem. Nobody wants to pay for the new feature until there are compatible devices that work with it, but nobody is willing to pay extra for compatible devices unless their computer has the new feature to take advantage of it. Apple just goes ahead and sticks in the new gizmo and counts on there being compatible devices soon enough that buyers will eventually be able to take advantage.
It helps in this case that it’s backward compatible with their mini-Display Port plug, so it’s already a good way of connecting to external non-HDMI monitors. If you have a monitor that requires Dual Link DVI, for example, it’s a very nice way of connecting it. I doubt that there are going to be too many consumer-level non-display devices that really need Thunderbolt speeds anytime soon, especially with USB3 already available, but it seems like a neat feature anyway.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@efgoldman: I think there was only one turnover in the Baylor-TCU game as well.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Villago Delenda Est: Speaking of the Huskies, they will be playing the defending National Champions(Div 1-AA) Eastern Washington whose field is RED!!!. An offense to the eyes why isn’t the ghost of Vince Lombardi destroying it with fire?
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore:
Don’t even get me started on apple’s display port bullshit.
Mr Stagger Lee
Oh and one more thing I pray to the football gods that Notre Dame sucks donkey balls so bad that NBC drops them and broadcasts an big conference games.
khead
Well, that sucked. So much for the little guy.
Yutsano
@efgoldman: Well shit. The worst part is I bet Auburn doesn’t lose a single point off their rankings.
arguingwithsignposts
Another college football related note: most all of the games are available for streaming on ESPN 3 (or whatever they’re calling it now), including the Ga./Boise State game!
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@arguingwithsignposts:
i’ve been in chicago when notre dame was relevant.
big cities may not have local ties to the local schools, but that doesn’t mean they don’t pack the sports bars with alum association get togethers and whatnot.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: And we magically got the Big Ten Network in Athens so I can get the Illini on the computer!
TuiMel
On my way to watch UW vs EWU. Go Dawgs!
Villago Delenda Est
@The Dangerman:
It’s all due to Phil Knight’s influence. What Phil wants, he gets, because, frankly, he pays for it, and the UofO is not going to to turn down all that infrastructure he’s donating.
He started, in an insidious way, with the Library and the Law School, then pounced on the athletic department like no one’s business.
Now the Ducks are basically the runway models of Nike Sports Fashion, no matter how hideous that might be.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
137 on the field in Urbana!
Roger Moore
@arguingwithsignposts:
FTFY. Their display plugs are only the worst example of their more general disregard for backward compatibility. Apple will sometimes make a weak attempt at maintaining some kind of compatibility, but their general attitude seems to be that it’s worth abandoning their existing approach if a new one will give them a marginal improvement. I think they’re a little bit better with software compatibility than hardware, but they certainly care less about either one than just about anyone else in the industry. It apparently helps with their goal of making the latest, shiniest thing, but the idea that Apple will decide all their existing stuff obsolete is one of the things that makes people into Apple haters.
Yutsano
@TuiMel: Totally fergot it was a home game. I’m hoping the viaduct is open so I can skip by that whole mishegas.
Joel
The NCAA is a goddamn scam.
arguingwithsignposts
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:
In the 1950s? :) Somewhat seriously, I never said there weren’t alumni from various schools packing sports bars. I’m saying that the teams themselves aren’t often located in big cities. Look at, for instance, the University of Georgia ;) and compare the devotion it elicits to the devotion to Ga. Tech, which is located in Hotlanta.
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore: you’re preaching to the choir of a person with a bunch of 400/800 firewire cables. :)
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
The picture on Big Ten 2 Go online is excellent!
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@arguingwithsignposts:
are there any state flagship schools located in a city? being the state school big dog vs the pup has a lot to do with popularity.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@arguingwithsignposts:
are there any state flagship schools located in a city? being the state school big dog vs the pup has a lot to do with popularity.
ETA USF!
arguingwithsignposts
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: Depends on what you call “city.” Also, land-grant vs. flagship (think Texas A&M vs. Texas, UVA vs. Va. Tech, Alabama vs. Auburn, Clemson vs. USC). In short, it’s complicated.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: BC?
Villago Delenda Est
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:
University of Washington is in Seattle.
Contrast with Oregon, where the two flagship schools are down the valley from Portland, in Eugene and Corvallis.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: Austin is sort of a city.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: University Of Washington is in Seattle, Minnesota in Minneapolis, two on top of my head. Oh yes Arizona in Tuscon.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
Western Michigan just made the Meesheegun defense look like…the Meesheegun defense.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
so is c-bus, but both have larger metros in the state. i think winning has as much to do with it, as anything.
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): did you just reference Boston College? Also, Austin is sort of a weird mix because it’s part college town, part political shit. Columbus might qualify as that too.
Again, depends on what you mean by “city.” I am more talking about metropolis, vs. just a city. Houston, for example, doesn’t give a shit about rice or u of h.
arguingwithsignposts
@Mr Stagger Lee: Oh, c’mon. UM isn’t a football school.
ETA: Arizona is a good example. Perhaps it’s more an east-west thing, because the Cardinals are shit.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Mr Stagger Lee:
these are the two i would think of that have the lions share of resources amongst public universities and are located in or near the biggest city.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:Proly right, I’ve lived in Champaign Urbana and Athens since I got out of the Army (42 years ago today) and I couldn’t give a rats ass about any cities.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@arguingwithsignposts: Yea. Tucson is the capitol of AZ. Bear Down.
superdestroyer
Considering that there is no way that Boise STate will end up in one of the four 16 school superconferences, no one will be seeing the smurf turf unless they are a fan of I-AA college football.
The real question is which current Division I-A school (old term) will be the first to drop football after that school is excluded from the four power conferences.
Yutsano
@Mr Stagger Lee: Arizona State is in a suburb of Phoenix. UCLA and USC of course.
(Heh. Someone at Mozilla has a sense of humor. UCLA is fine but USC brings up the red wavy line.)
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): It is? Are you saying Wakko Warner lied to me when he said it was Phoenix?
arguingwithsignposts
FWIW, most state schools are not located in big cities, esp. in the south. That’s a broad statement, but generally true. Except for the schools that are located in state capitals (like UT and South Carolina)
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
ESPN is running “Goal Line”.
Roger Moore
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:
In the PAC
1012 there certainly are. Cal is in Berkeley, UCLA is in Los Angeles, UW is in Seattle, and UU is in Salt Lake City. CU is in Boulder, which is close enough to Denver that fans can make it to the games easily. That makes about half the public schools in the conference either in or within easy traveling distance of big cities.Villago Delenda Est
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal:
As I indicated in an earlier post, Seattle tends to go with who is winning, and that applies to different sports entirely as well. In the 80’s it was mostly Huskies with some Seahawks thrown in early on (particularly in 84, when the ‘Hawks went 12-4). Then the Huskies fell on hard times in the post Don James era, getting routinely thrashed by their former whipping boys from Eugene. Obviously a few years back it was all Seahawks Seahawks Seahawks.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@superdestroyer: Unless you are a Ga Tech fan. You can see it when they go to that bowl game.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
It’s only 60 miles from Athens to the ATL.
arguingwithsignposts
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Just far enough to get the kids out of the city. :)
That really seems to be where they located the schools back in the day. Check out where Clemson (Clempson in SC dialect) is, for instance. Just far enough that it’s not an easy drive.
SiubhanDuinne
@arguingwithsignposts:
I’ll give you South Carolina, but UT is in Knoxville, not Nashville.
Roger Moore
@arguingwithsignposts:
There’s actually a good reason for that. Most of the big state schools started out as land grant colleges that were explicitly supposed to be teaching farming and engineering. You can teach engineering in a big city, but farming pretty much has to be taught out in the country so you can have real farms. Some of the originally rural schools have been swallowed by big cities, but more often than not they’re still in smaller college towns.
arguingwithsignposts
@SiubhanDuinne: UT falls into the state capital category. How many Vandy fans are there in Nashvegas?
For a counter-example, check out Ole Miss, which is in the middle of fucking nowhere.
Jager
@Southern Beale: If Obama is a socialist, I guess the Birchers were right after all, Ike was a Commie Dupe!
arguingwithsignposts
@Roger Moore: Well, in the south, there seems to be both flagship and land grant, so it’s a little different. USC/Clemson, UT/A&M, Ole Miss/Miss. State/ LSU, La. Tech/VT, UVA, etc.
ETA: There’s also a military component. esp. at A&M and VT, but that’s another discussion.
Jager
Who or what is moderating these comments?
SiubhanDuinne
@arguingwithsignposts:
I go up to Clemson (Clempson! Haha!) every few weeks and I always think it’s not a place anyone would just happen to be passing. You really have to intend to go to some of these unis.
arguingwithsignposts
@SiubhanDuinne: Oh, indeed. I used to live in Greenville, and we knew you had to be going to that uni to actually go there. Still, lots of people with their orange/purple gear. Even preachers on Sunday talking about a Tigers win.
SiubhanDuinne
@arguingwithsignposts:
I’m confused. You said in your #152 that UT was in a state capital and I said no it’s not because it’s in Knoxville which is not the state capital. What am I missing?
arguingwithsignposts
@SiubhanDuinne: You’re missing me being WRONG ON THE INTERNET! I always thought of Knoxville as the capital. Not sure why, think I got it mixed up with Charleston, WV for some reason. So you are correct, and I am wrong in the sense of state capitals. And UT fans are still crazy (I’ve listened to enough Tenn. Sports Radio to establish that fact).
Bill H.
GA Tech is in downtown Atlanta.
Auburn pulled it out, but they have a problem on defense. Utah St. is not that good.
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
@Roger Moore:
Depends on when the school was founded. Michigan State University is such a school (and the largest, by area, of all of the land grant universities, iirc), but the University of Michigan, founded in Ann Arbor decades before the land grant legislation passed through Congress, isn’t.
Sometimes it’s just a political decision: Grand Valley State University, located in Allendale, MI, is located in Ottawa County, MI, as a reward from a Republican state government to an area of hardcore Republican support. That has to be true elsewhere as well.
SiubhanDuinne
@arguingwithsignposts:
Not to mention the miles of tiger paws painted on the asphalt leading you into campus from all the main drags.
SiubhanDuinne
@arguingwithsignposts:
With you on the last sentence. As for the other, I was beginning to think of myself as a signpost.
arguingwithsignposts
@SiubhanDuinne: argh, don’t even start. I had enough students who went to other schools who wore clempson shit near game day. I kept wanting to ask: why advertise you weren’t good enough to get in there?
ETA: We are all signposts now. :)
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@SiubhanDuinne: IPTAY!
Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)
Woohoo! 94-yard pick six for the Wolverines!
fhtagn
Did anything ever happen about a BJ NFL fantasy football league?
Villago Delenda Est
@Jager:
WordPress has an auto detect system that looks for particular strings associated with spamming. For example, a brand name for a male enhancement pharmaceutical is a string it looks for, which happens to be imbedded in a political term which right wing idiots routinely use to describe the polices of Barack Obama. This particular six word string is also in the more formal nomenclature of a political movement in central Europe some 80 odd years ago that resembles in many ways our contemporary wingtards.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Yutsano: The question was about the flagship universities located in big cities. Interesting how there are few, take University of Arkansas, which I think is closer to Kansas City than Little Rock. Is LSU both the flagship and land grant of Louisiana?
arguingwithsignposts
@Mr Stagger Lee: LSU is in Baton Rouge, hardly a big city. Also, IIRC, La. Tech (go Ragin’ Cajuns!) was the land grant at one time.
Steeplejack
@FlipYrWhig:
Yes, it was huge elsewhere and you missed it. New Jersey was a college football sinkhole then, and may still be.
In the Southeast, college football is not huge, it’s a religion.
superdestroyer
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
In a few years, there will only be 64 college football teams in Division I. Georgia Tech will be in that 64 even though they have few, if any, hangers-on (Wal-Mart Alumni) because Georgia Tech will be in the combined ACC/Big East Conference. However, none of the four remaining conferences is going to want Boise STate. Thus, Boise STate will be back in Division I-AA playing James Madison or Delaware for a national championship.
SiubhanDuinne
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I know what that means.
I think I’ve lived in the South too long.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
\@Steeplejack: Yep, and it’s my religion. I’ll always be an Illini and I married into a VaTech family but there is nothing like the Dawgs and another SEC team playing between the hedges.
Corner Stone
@FlipYrWhig:
I…I…[holding head in hands crying]
adolphus
@78 FlipYrWhig
I have often thought this was a good idea, but “Cornhusker” (And Gator, Buckeyes, etc etc) are intellectual property of the schools. If we spun off NCAA football teams into semi-pro teams they would either have to find new names or pay a small fortune to the schools. Also, I just don’t see, over time, semi-pro teams being nearly as popular as top tier NCAA teams are now with their built in rabid-fan base and wealthy donors in alumni who not only spend enormous sums on game tickets but also spend millions on merchandise and related crap. I see Florida Gator shit all over the country and UF makes millions off of it. 20 years after implementing your plan, who but locals would buy Gainesville Alligator crap?
I like your idea, but the people who make millions now would not make millions under it.
Maybe I misunderstand.
Bnut
Came here late. Just had to add: a W is a W, but still, ahahahhahahahahah @Auburn. And Roll Tide.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Bnut: Chickenshit motherfuckers. National champs and half of em left when they fell back 10. Fuck em, go Dawgs!
Thymezone
Original post question: For the same reason the govt can’t make WV keep its mines safe, I reckon. Not enough people give a shit, apparently.
Corner Stone
C’mon you fucking UofH Cougs! Finish off these punk ass Bruins!
Yeah! Recover that onside kick! F U UCLA!
M. Bouffant
Notre Dame game to resume in 10 mins.
BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla)
@Corner Stone:
Sore winner a bit CS? No class.
Strandedvandal
@Yutsano: No, it doesn’t It’s an abomination. GO VANDALS!
Strandedvandal
@Jim C.: And now you know why the rest of the state hates Boise/ The great state of Ada county. The arrogance exhibited by some people here is astounding.
Corner Stone
@BillinGlendaleCA (aka 10amla): Absolutely no class.
F U UCLA!!
Corner Stone
Man, ECU is just working the Cocks over.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Corner Stone: Awwwww.
Corner Stone
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Oh yeah! Go Cocks! Ram it right up the middle!!
khead
Weird.
I have seen not one (Michigan)…
Not two (South Florida)….
But THREE (Ole Miss) turnovers returned for TD’s from inside the 10 today.
FlipYrWhig
@adolphus: You’re right, the biggest obstacle would be the schools themselves, who as it stands benefit massively from an utter racket. But I don’t see why the Gainesville Gators would have a problem remaining viable; a huge number of Gator fans have nothing to do with the University of Florida as it is. College football culture reminds me of soccer culture, so I can easily imagine people walking around with Gainesville Gator gear after the whole thing was split off from U of F. But, by and large, I’m sure you’re right that the schools would never allow anything like it.
@Corner Stone: Turns out I was in a trough where college football wasn’t anything anyone cared about to the same degree they do, um, nearly everywhere else. Different region is different!
Corner Stone
@FlipYrWhig: I have asked the Lord Our God for mercy on your soul.
It’s all I can do at this point.
Geoduck
@Villago Delenda Est:
Of course in Seattle “doing well” is a relative thing. The Huskies are the only ones to ever actually win a championship at any point.
Joel
@Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal: Washington, California, Nevada, for three.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Joel:
sure, then you can argue what a big city is. my point, as lost as it was, is that college football mostly takes place in non-big cities, and is kind of a big deal everywhere, except possibly the north east, which has more to do with winning.
Comrade Nimrod Humperdink
@Corner Stone
Speaking as a WSU alum, you can just condense that to FUCLA. Since we play them every year, we get it on T-shirts with lettering that matches theirs. Just in case there’s any confusion, or anything…
Seanly
@Jim C.:
I am about to drive 2400 miles to start a new job in Boise. Wife & I fell in love with the place when we went out there for my interview. I gotta say that the place looked less hickish than my current locale of Columbia SC area.
Was told that the smurf turf is much better in person.
RE: driving out there – I get to do it in a couple of days with my mom and then fly back in a month to do the drive again with wife and dog. Wife staying here to train her replacement.