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by John Cole|  September 6, 20119:20 pm| 69 Comments

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I can’t tell you how happy I am to have stepped away from the blog for two hours only to discover you all have not burnt the shit down. Thank you for that.

Still watching the Tudors. I have to say, I was not sure about Rhys Davies as the king for a while, but now I can not imagine anyone else. At least for this series.

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  1. 1.

    cleek

    September 6, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    plus, lots of pretty naked people.

  2. 2.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 6, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Just finished Gridlock’d with Tim Roth and Tupac on Netflix. If you haven’t seen it your missing a very good, very funny flick.

  3. 3.

    Carrie

    September 6, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    I was not sure about Rhys Davies as the king for a while, but now I can not imagine anyone else.

    I know, isn’t he dreamy? le sigh..

  4. 4.

    JPL

    September 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    I got hooked on In Plain Sight on netflix streaming. It created a syndrome that I labeled the sore butt condition. It was worth it though because I like Mary and her relationship with Marshall Marshall.
    It’s not Monk and not even close second but is a nice diversion.

  5. 5.

    Anya

    September 6, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Hey John, thanks for the thoughtful post earlier today.

  6. 6.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    @JPL: Proly better than a flick about 2 junkies trying to get into rehab against incredible “Gridlock”!

  7. 7.

    Kelly

    September 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    I’m pretty sure you mean Rhys Meyers. Though picturing Gimli as Henry VIII is kinda awesome.

  8. 8.

    anonymoose

    September 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    rhys MEYERS

  9. 9.

    pattonbt

    September 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Question for the google-fu / BJ archive masters. I would like to see all my previous comments on BJ from earlier in the year (and a few years ago). As I don’t comment much, they are few. So I google, and I get one or two comments here and there in a link (googling “pattonbt comment balloon juice” or some variant). But I can’t get a listing of all my comments.

    Is there a way to do this? Or I am stuck with searching fore a needle in a haystack.

    Thanks in advance.

  10. 10.

    boss bitch

    September 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Still watching the Tudors. I have to say, I was not sure about Rhys Davies as the king for a while, but now I can not imagine anyone else. At least for this series.

    Same here. I thought he was too pretty but he’s damned good.

  11. 11.

    Martin

    September 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    I can’t tell you how happy I am to have stepped away from the blog for two hours only to discover you all have not burnt the shit down.

    Well, the black people stopped oppressing us for the afternoon. That always helps.

  12. 12.

    The Dangerman

    September 6, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    …only to discover you all have not burnt the shit down.

    However, if you check the Blog’s refrigerator, you’ll note the beer is gone…

    …and, for reasons unknown, there was a run on the catfood, too. Sorry, Tunch.

  13. 13.

    Akadad

    September 6, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I was not sure about Rhys Davies as the king for a while, but now I can not imagine anyone else.

    Agreed. Also, Natalie Dormer did a great job portraying Ann Boleyn.

  14. 14.

    The Dangerman

    September 6, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Is there a way to do this?

    Google for your name in advanced search, restricting the domain to balloon-juice.com. That should do it.

  15. 15.

    ABL

    September 6, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    ::drops can of gasoline::

    ::raises hands in the air::

  16. 16.

    Samara Morgan

    September 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    @ABL:
    so sorry for all the rudity, ABL.
    and RELLY sorry i missed it.

    /salutes ABL with respect

    here’s some matches.
    :)

  17. 17.

    res ipsa loqitur

    September 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    I loved watching “The Tudors” and I am properly ashamed by it.

    I watched two episodes of “The Borgias” and realized that I had seen many of the same actors naked before … in “The Tudors”. I think the same producers put both shows together.

    One thing about “The Tudors” that I appreciated was that they got the reasons for Boleyn’s execution right. It wasn’t just that she failed to produce a male heir. It was also that Catherine of Aragon had died, and an alliance with Spain was convenient, but the Spanish would hear none of it with Ann Boleyn still walking this particular planet. And so…off with her head!

  18. 18.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    September 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    What was JC’s verdict on the series Alphas? I thought it was not bad. Sons of Anarchy is on tonight YAHHHHOOO!

  19. 19.

    John Cole

    September 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee: Thumbs up. I am two episodes behind. Three behind on Suits.

  20. 20.

    Anya

    September 6, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    DougJ needs to choose a theme song to go with the healing and reconciliation post. This is my contribution.

  21. 21.

    jnfr

    September 6, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    @JPL:

    In Plain Sight is fantastic. We’re working our way through it now.

  22. 22.

    Jay in Oregon

    September 6, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    @JPL:

    I agree! Season 4 isn’t on Netflix streaming yet, but I can’t wait.

  23. 23.

    General Stuck

    September 6, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Obama doing what he promised

    The Obama administration “has decided to drop the number of U.S. troops in Iraq at the end of the year down to 3,000, marking a major downgrade in force strength,”

  24. 24.

    dead existentialist

    September 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    John, nobody’s gonna burn this place down; the pissing matches will prevent it. Feature, not bug.

  25. 25.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    September 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    @John Cole: Well you won’t be disappointed, Alphas is one of the best on Syfy! I only wished NBC saved The Cape and moved it to SyFy, it was corny at times but good fun.

  26. 26.

    Jade Jordan

    September 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Quit wasting your time watching liberal elite TV and do something useful.

  27. 27.

    Anya

    September 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    @General Stuck: WH denied the report already.

  28. 28.

    Samara Morgan

    September 6, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    @General Stuck: hahaha
    we arent leaving any troops.
    that is kabuki to appease the Sauds.
    US Terrified of Troop Withdrawal

    Despite massive investment in war against a number of Muslim countries in the Middle East, a decade of violence and aggression has led to a loss of US global influence.
    __
    Press TV talks with Michael Maloof, former Pentagon official in Washington, about Saudi and US worries over the waning of US control and influence in the Middle East, particularly the required withdrawal from Iraq at the end of this year. The following is a rush transcript of the interview.
    __
    Press TV: Why is Leon Panetta jumping the gun when it comes to announcing an agreement that is yet to be agreed or is it a smart propaganda move to pressure the Iraqis – Can this backfire on the Americans?
    __
    Michael Maloof: I think it is a form of pressure and that the US appears to be very anxious to extend beyond the December 31 deadline. The reasons for that is not that because they want to do training and they fear the Iraqi security forces need more training.
    __
    I think the reason the pressure is there is because of what they see is Iran’s influence emerging more and more into Iraq and that’s becoming a real problem for the US – Especially in light of what the US believes they have accomplished with the Syrians and causing so much disruption there given the relationship of Iran to Syria.
    __
    And I think what the US is fearful of is a Shiite crescent actually emerging from all this given that Prime Minister Maliki is Shiite and is close to Iran and that bothers the US tremendously.
    __
    Press TV: You’ve touched upon this a bit, but I’d like you to expand on this – Obama has never really stood by the reasons the US went to war against Iraq – Why is he so motivated to stay in Iraq now?
    __
    Michael Maloof: I think it’s because of the changing circumstances; and you’re only talking 10,000 troops; it’s supposed to be a token amount, or they might agree to the extension of the 40,000 that are there.
    __
    But it’s not going to really matter in terms of what effectiveness they can accomplish. I think the US is also under increasing pressure from the Saudis. It’s my understanding that the Saudis have decided to go on their own – they no longer trust the US – to basically create their own army; a rapid reaction force if you will and they’re very much concerned about the plight of the Sunnis in Iraq.
    __
    And so they’re going to put pressure on the US to at least maintain some kind of presence there in order to in effect try to disrupt the forward motion of Iranian influence in what is an Arab world in that region and also because of the concern the Saudis have over the plight of the Sunnis there.
    __
    So I think the US has seen, and everything in the Middle East has shown, the ineffectiveness of US policy. And I think they’re groping and grasping at straws.
    __
    Even in terms of Syria they just don’t have the influence they once had and that’s bothering policy makers a great deal in terms of trying to maintain that influence in the Middle East and try to cope with probable pressure from the Saudis to try to restrict Iranian influence from the Arab world.

  29. 29.

    RoonieRoo

    September 6, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Just started watching In Plain Sight this week and I am definitely enjoying it.

  30. 30.

    MacKenna

    September 6, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Jonathan Rhys Meyers must be who you mean.

    He is very talented + major eye candy. Who knew an underwear model could play Henry VIII.

    If he could have had a cat in the series, Tunch would have been perfect. In a little jewelled mini-me crown, those glaring gold eyes, plotting…

  31. 31.

    Samara Morgan

    September 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    I repeat, we are not keeping any troops in Iraq past December.
    On Friday, Muqtada al-Sadr is staging an Arab Spring style protest in Iraqs OWN Tahir Square.
    He says if American troops stay past December they will die, and he will topple Maliki’s government.

  32. 32.

    General Stuck

    September 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @Anya:

    Oh well, scratch that then.

  33. 33.

    60th Street

    September 6, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @MacKenna: The beheadings would have easily tripled under Tunch rule.

  34. 34.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    September 6, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    @MacKenna: May I suggest a wickedly fun Rhys-Meyers character, as Demitrius in the movie Titus, which starred Anthony Hopkins.

  35. 35.

    Splitting Image

    September 6, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    I finally got around to watching “The Great Dictator” the other night. It’s got a lot of great moments in it, but one of the ones that resonated the most was when Chaplin as Adenoid Hynkel is giving a speech and his eyes are practically bugging out of his head as he screams with hate at the microphones.

    The translator happily summarizes this: “The Phooey has just referred to the Jewish people.”

    Amazing film.

  36. 36.

    Lysana

    September 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    The thing about Henry VIII we got mis-taught in school is that he was always fat. Hardly. He was the quintessential ex-jock in those later-life images of him. So when I saw people claiming Rhys Myers was wrong for the part, it always came down to “he’s too skinny and hot.” Setting aside how fat and sexy CAN go together, it’s proof in the critic that they didn’t get taught Henry’s full history.

  37. 37.

    Mnemosyne

    September 6, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Rhys Davies would have been a more apt pick to play Henry in the Catherine Howard days (has the show gotten to that yet?) when he was old and fat and had an ulcer on his leg that kept seeping noxious pus, but I guess no one would want to see that guy naked.

  38. 38.

    Perfect Tommy

    September 6, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    I can only assume that the television producers who are flooding the airwaves with 9/11 imagery in advance of the coming anniversary didn’t personally know anyone who died in the towers. For me, it still feels like someone is stabbing me in the heart every time I see those scenes. It’s going to be a long week.

  39. 39.

    eemom

    September 6, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I can’t tell you how happy I am to have stepped away from the blog for two hours only to discover you all have not burnt the shit down. Thank you for that.

    excellent.

    Y’all, we have finally succeeded in teaching Cole the soft bigotry of low expectations.

    Next thing ya know he’ll be PAYING us to comment here.

  40. 40.

    Gordon, The Big Express Engine

    September 6, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Did everyone see Google’s home page today?

  41. 41.

    Raider Dave

    September 6, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    rhys MEYERS sucked in that! I can’t believe people liked him as Henry 8. He was too gong and skinny to play that role. I guess I’m the only one who feels that way. Sigh

  42. 42.

    burnspbesq

    September 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    I can’t tell you how happy I am to have stepped away from the blog for two hours only to discover you all have not burnt the shit down.

    Couldn’t find enough kindling on short notice. Give us time.

    Also too, I would be a lot more impressed with Strasburg’s line in his return to the majors if it had come against a real baseball team.

  43. 43.

    burnspbesq

    September 6, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Y’all will love this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxaY_mxYflg

  44. 44.

    pattonbt

    September 6, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    @The Dangerman: Thanks! I found the comment and thread I was looking for.

  45. 45.

    soonergrunt

    September 6, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    @pattonbt: Search string as follows:
    site: ballon-juice.com pattonbt

    copy/paste that into google or a google toolbar.

  46. 46.

    suzanne

    September 6, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    @Lysana:

    He was the quintessential ex-jock in those later-life images of him.

    That explains the awesome suits of armor with the successively larger genitalia as his venereal disease advanced.

  47. 47.

    Comrade Kevin

    September 6, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    @Gordon, The Big Express Engine: I had not seen it before, but that is fantastic.

  48. 48.

    Linda

    September 6, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Raven (formerly Stuckinred):

    A fine little gem, Gridlock’d. Even though no part of it looked like Detroit and the geographic references were confusingly wrong. It was like a doped up Laurel and Hardy episode.

  49. 49.

    Comrade Mary

    September 6, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    @pattonbt: Search for this:

    “pattonbt -” site:balloon-juice.com

    This will find all hits where you were the commenter and not just mentioned by someone else.

    May God have mercy on your soul.

    EDIT: And as said above, if you want to narrow by date, click the advanced search link after you build the basic search and define some dates.

    And — hi John! I really liked your wrap-up post earlier today. Thanks for being so sensible.

  50. 50.

    Lojasmo

    September 6, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    @Jade Jordan:

    Quit wasting your time watching liberal elite TV and do something useful.

    Like voting for writing in pat buchanan?

  51. 51.

    The Commish

    September 6, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Still one spot left in the Balloon-Juice Fantasy Football League. Draft is tomorrow night. Here’s the link….password to join is alsotoo.

    http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/797340

  52. 52.

    Comrade Kevin

    September 6, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    @The Commish: er, what is the group ID number? 797340 doesn’t seem to be it.

  53. 53.

    Lynn Dee

    September 6, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    I absolutely loved the Tudors! One of the things that struck me most was how, as the seasons (the series seasons, that is) progressed, I found myself looking back with such longing to the first season when Henry was young and got to ride around on his horsie with his friends, and fall in love with (and be completely smitten with) Anne Boleyn. Then things got more complicated, Henry was never quite as free again or as on top of his game, and everything just went to shit.

    That progression of the seasons of a man’s life (real seasons that is, not TV seasons) just felt so true. And so lovely.

  54. 54.

    hamletta

    September 6, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    @Raider Dave: I don’t know what “gong” means, but as has been pointed out upthread, Henry VIII only got fat later in life. When he was young, he was slim and athletic. He got fat when his leg injury got too painful.

    Rhys Meyers is about a head shorter than HVIII, though. Dude was 6’3″.

    In season 4, they padded his belly and grayed his hair, and Rhys Meyers altered his gait and voice. He’s not Fatty McFatterson, but he does come off old and tired.

  55. 55.

    Lynn Dee

    September 6, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    @boss bitch: Do you — or does anybody — happen to recall when Henry first met Anne of Cleves? And he turned around and went immediately back to London, strode into Hampton Court and shouted: “I like her not! I like her NOT!”

    Hilarious. :)

  56. 56.

    Mike D.

    September 7, 2011 at 12:00 am

    I love the actor who plays Cromwell, as well as the way his whole story is told in the series.

  57. 57.

    Emerald

    September 7, 2011 at 12:10 am

    The best Henry VIII by far (and that’s sayin’ somethin’, because there have been some good portrayals) was Keith Mitchell in the Six Wives of Henry VIII.

    He did the six-part BBC series back in the early seventies, and also a feature-length movie in ’72. Charlotte Rampling as Anne, Jane Asher as Jane Seymour, Donald Pleasence as Cromwell. Fabulous music too–David Munroe found fame for himself and Renaissance music with that film.

    The Best Movie about Henry, period. It’s available on Amazon instant video. The video quality is poor, but at least we’ve still got the film!

    Having said that, I couldn’t tear myself away from The Tudors. Rhys Meyers Davies (?) was wrong for the part but who cares? He did a good job and the sexed-up series was compelling, with even a few historical things right.

    But nobody’s ever gonna play Henry better than Keith Mitchell. A super-stud in the beginning and an obese monster at the end, and you believe the man every moment. It’s a deep portrayal with nary a note wrong.

  58. 58.

    AkaDad

    September 7, 2011 at 12:12 am

    @Lynn Dee:

    She has the face of a horse!

    Joss Stone did a pretty good job portraying her.

  59. 59.

    Will

    September 7, 2011 at 12:58 am

    If the show had any balls it would have kept going after Henry’s death on into Mary’s reign, then Elizabeth’s, and made a kick-ass epic series out of the thing. It is called “The Tudors”, after all, not “Henry VIII”.

  60. 60.

    Lynn Dee

    September 7, 2011 at 1:02 am

    @Mike D.: I agree. Thomas Cromwell is such a fascinating character. Have you read Hilary Mantel’s Wolf Hall? If you loved The Tudors, are fond of reading histories and are especially interested in Thomas Cromwell, I can’t recommend it enough. Great book.

  61. 61.

    Lynn Dee

    September 7, 2011 at 1:06 am

    @AkaDad: She did. In fact that whole story was fun, the way Henry sent Hans Holbein to Germany to paint her. I mean, what’s a king to do, right? Marry sight unseen?!

  62. 62.

    Joseph Nobles

    September 7, 2011 at 1:15 am

    I keep seeing atrocious ads for the American version of “Prime Suspect” and it makes me want to burn barns, y’all.

  63. 63.

    Comrade Kevin

    September 7, 2011 at 1:25 am

    @Joseph Nobles: Yeah, I have seen them too. They make me want to punch someone. What was wrong with the original series? The answer is, of course, “not invented here”, or “wrong accents”

  64. 64.

    Joseph Nobles

    September 7, 2011 at 1:52 am

    @Comrade Kevin: I’ve come to terms with remakes. Proven material, easy to get good people, and a core audience virtually guarantees a remake these days.

    But with something like Prime Suspect, I was hoping that the remake would not be able to overwhelm the source material, and every ad is just as bad as it can possibly be. I haven’t seen footage of the actual show yet, though. But the awareness campaign is setting my expections in all the wrong places. Maybe that’s what it’s intended to do, and our rock-bottom expectations will be pleasantly rewarded. We’ll see.

  65. 65.

    Brachiator

    September 7, 2011 at 1:53 am

    OT: Yahoo follows Apple’s lead, appoints one of “those people” as CEO. I

    If you follow the tech news, the hot story is that Yahoo has fired Carol Bartz and named Tim Morse as interim CEO. Note that Tim Cook was named CEO to replace Steve Jobs. Yes, the hot trend is naming people named Tim to be CEOs of top companies.

    More seriously, Keith Michell, no T, is absolutely wonderful as Henry in The Six Wives of Henry VIII, and does very well in going from a Renaissance prince to a paranoid, raging, diseased old man. Glenda Jackson in the series “Elizabeth R” ain’t no slouch either. But The Tudors is good stuff.

    Given all the craziness going on in the tech world, as for example, the kingdom of Blackberry appears to be doomed and The Duchy of HP flirts with disaster, and the mighty state of ATT attempts to annex T Mobile, you could easily do a series likening tech leaders to the Tudors or the Borgias.

  66. 66.

    Comrade Kevin

    September 7, 2011 at 2:57 am

    @Brachiator: Yeah, they fired Bartz over the phone. Yahoo! and all that. Mind you, I was laid off over the phone too.

  67. 67.

    debbie

    September 7, 2011 at 7:01 am

    Check out Jonathan Rhys Meyers in Titus. Definitely worth the sighs, and it seems closest to his real-life persona.

  68. 68.

    bob h

    September 7, 2011 at 7:20 am

    You ought to try the superb “The Madness of King George” with Nigel Hawthorne, Helen Mirren, Rupert Everett.

  69. 69.

    Darkrose

    September 7, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    @Mike D.: Yes. Frain was absolutely brilliant as Cromwell; definitely one of the highlights of the series.

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