Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Cancel the cowardly Times and Post and set up an equivalent monthly donation to ProPublica.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. ~Thomas Jefferson

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Every decision we make has lots of baggage with it, known or unknown.

“They all knew.”

Today’s gop: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

Those who are easily outraged are easily manipulated.

So fucking stupid, and still doing a tremendous amount of damage.

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!

Museums are not America’s attic for its racist shit.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

You passed on an opportunity to be offended? What are you even doing here?

They are not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

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  3. 3.

    jl

    There is probably a roller derby on some cable channel someplace too. Do we have to pay attention every time one shows up?

    I will check in with (the mythical blog character) Cole’s Tweeter Twits, and watch him decompensate, devolve, and dissolve in 140 character chunks.

  4. 4.

    lamh32

    not watching debate, not watching football, will prob watch old episodes of Family Guy on TBS.

    I’ll def follow Cole on twitter though. Dude is hella funny at 140 characters.

    ETA: well I guess I won’t be following cole then…still aint watching it.

  5. 5.

    4jkb4ia

    I will be trying to avoid heart failure in the 4th set. A Tea Party Express debate!?

    ETA: B”H, I was really worried about how much John would have to drink to get through this.

    2nd ETA: Shit, Djokovic is being seen to by the trainer.

  9. 9.

    Cat Lady

    If you’re watching the debate, drink when you hear “job creators”. If you’re watching the game, drink when you hear Jon Gruden say “this guy”. Either way, it’s gonna be ugly.

  11. 11.

    Jenny

    Has anyone cut back on wine consumption/purchases due to the recession?

    I often see people discuss wine on this board, so I thought it would be a good place to ask.

    I just saw an interesting story on how vineyards were hit during the recession with declining sales, but have finally turned around with sales starting to pick up.

    Could this be a leading indicator?

  12. 12.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @John Cole:

    I can’t watch more than one GOP debate every 7 days.

    No doubt because of DougJ spoof fatigue.

    Is this an open enough thread for a good cause bleg – for helping disadvantaged people, not pets?

  14. 14.

    jl

    I just found out that there seem to be two Monday Night Footballs. The first involve acutal pro teams.

    I’m not sure the Raiders/Broncos game qualifies as real football.

    But the early game is legit.

  16. 16.

    Jenny

    My girlfriend told me, “when Perry accepts the nomination at the convention, the crowd will be chanting DRILL, BABY, DRILL! ‘KILL, BABY, KILL!'”.

  19. 19.

    Warren Terra

    Two live-blogs:
    TPM
    The Slog (the group blog of The Stranger, Seattle’s only newspaper that matters).

    ETA The Slog’s live-blog may not be the most informative, but it promises to be the most fun.

    ETA2 The Stranger‘s managing editor (or whatever the title is) is Dan Savage, the guy who coined the term “Santorum”. Which tells you anything you need to know about their newsroom’s leanings and sense of decorum.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    The computing gods don’t want me to watch; I try to load the stream on cnn’s website, and a dialog box appears asking me if I want to install some bizarre Flash extension. None of the buttons on said dialog actually do anything; the page is just stuck.

    Thank you, computer gods! I have been blessed!

  33. 33.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @MikeJ: Hungadunga,Hungadunga,Hungadunga and McCormick. . . you left out a Hungadunga, the most important one.

  35. 35.

    hilts

    CNN: The Assholes
    What a stupid fucking intro to this moronic debate – Introducing each candidate with lame-ass nicknames

    Kudos to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting for calling out CNN for their bullshit decision to team up with the tea party assholes for this debate

    Tonight’s Republican debate might look familiar, with a well-known journalist posing questions to a stage full of candidates. But CNN’s event is actually a co-production of sorts with the far-right Tea Party Express, raising serious questions about a journalistic outlet’s decision to formally partner with a controversial political group… It’s unusual for a centrist news outlet to take an openly partisan group as a partner in producing a political event; we can’t recall progressive groups being granted any similar opportunities in recent years.

    h/t fair.org/index.php?page=4388

  36. 36.

    Warren Terra

    I’m not watching the debate, but I am watching the streaming commentary at The Slog (which I linked above), whih informed me that they candidates pledged allegiance to a video of the flag, and that they then had the national anthem (a possible first at a debate?) and only Romney pretended to sing along (or, of course, perhaps did sing along).

  39. 39.

    Davis X. Machina

    @Jenny: No. People who had, and lost, health insurance, and got anti-depressants and statins on a prescription plan, have switched to plonk instead.

    Better red than dead.

  42. 42.

    schrodinger's cat

    I think Tunch should join the Repblican Primary race. He can tell us how he gave up nip and accepted Ceiling Cat as his purrsonal savior.

    ETA: He is white male fat cat, what else does one need?

  43. 43.

    Morzer

    Would it be better if Jon Gruden did commentary for the debate and Wolf Blitzer babbled about football? Or would it make no real difference?

  44. 44.

    licensed to kill time

    Social Security question first up out of the gate. And it’s tossed to Bachmann. “Obama stole it all!”

  49. 49.

    licensed to kill time

    Romney pulls out Perry’s book and beats him about the head and shoulders with it. Metaphorically speaking.

  60. 60.

    Morzer

    Which lunatic will out-lunatic the other lunatics for the lunatic lunatics of the lunatic party?

    How much pander would a pander pand, if a pander could pand pand?

  62. 62.

    schrodinger's cat

    @schrodinger’s cat: Grammar edit: comment needs a before white. Another point in Tunch’s favor he has good hair, I mean fur. As for Social Security he loves the Cat Food Commission, provided the cat food is sushi grade tuna.

  63. 63.

    Southern Beale

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    I heard that. Why on earth would anyone other than a die-hard Teabagger want to watch? I’m a Democrat, I don’t vote in GOP primaries. None of this shit matters to me, save for the entertainment value, until November 2012. So I really don’t give a crap, save in the academic sense.

    Plus, all of the candidates are crazy or boring. So really, mainstream media, wake me in November. And possibly not even then, unless someone sane shows up. Which I doubt will happen.

  72. 72.

    licensed to kill time

    Newt says “I don’t know why they’re worried about Perry scaring the people when Obama scares them every day!” Huge applause from the Tea Peeps.

    They’re trying to sell SS privatization once again.

    Groan.

  75. 75.

    hilts

    @Morzer:

    Would it be better if Jon Gruden did commentary for the debate?

    It would be better for journalism if Wolf Blitzer and John King worked as greeters for Wal-Mart.

  80. 80.

    Satanicpanic

    Woah, Newt is still showing up for these? And Santorum?

    Huntsman’s Nirvana reference went over like a lead balloon.

  81. 81.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @hilts:

    It would be better for journalism if Wolf Blitzer and John King 99 percent of the village media worked as greeters for Wal-Mart.

    FTFY

  82. 82.

    lamh32

    @Morzer: seriously it just amazes how people seem to like Huntsman for his “moderation” when 8 times out of 10 he sound just like the rest of the GOP.

  85. 85.

    Morzer

    @lamh32:

    He varies between unctuous rabidity and flagrant lunacy. Such is “reasonable conservatism” according to the Gospel of Sully.

  87. 87.

    Chris

    @Southern Beale:

    Plus, all of the candidates are crazy or boring. So really, mainstream media, wake me in November. And possibly not even then, unless someone sane shows up. Which I doubt will happen.

    Irrelevant even if they did: a sane person would have less support than Ron Paul, so there’s not much more motivation to watch.

    In 2008 I actually did watch the debates – it was interesting watching their party explode into all its different factions and not be able to unite around a candidate. This time, they’re all just posturing and competing for the teabagger vote. Like you said – boring.

  90. 90.

    lamh32

    seems to me that no matter what Romney says, this audience is just NOT with him.

    He’s getting the better of Perry, but due to the crowd’s reaction, the blows aren’t perceived as landing.

  92. 92.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Lawrence O’Donnell has upcoming interviews with the guy who’s going to lose Wiener’s seat, and then Patti Davis to talk about how this crowd doesn’t measure up to her pappy. Should cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth in Right Blogistan, if nothing else.

  93. 93.

    Morzer

    Someone taught Bachmann the phrase “ownership society”. Sadly, the new software seems to have failed to install correctly.

  94. 94.

    hilts

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Is it gauche or naive to ask where Gary Johnson is?

    I’d swap Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann for Gary Johnson and Buddy Roemer, but then CNN wouldn’t be able to meet its quota for batshit crazy.

  96. 96.

    eemom

    @lamh32:

    not watching debate, not watching football, will prob watch old episodes of Family Guy on TBS.

    You are the only sane person on this blog.

  100. 100.

    srv

    Wait, wasn’t there just a debate? Is this some weekly torture fest I’m going to have to endure regularly?

  102. 102.

    Triassic Sands

    Thank goodness, I can vote for Perry — apparently he just made the standard Republican promise — even though, according to Perry, Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and one gigantic lie, Preznit Perry will allow those currently on Social Security and those soon to be eligible to suffer the pain of Ponzi. I guess the fact that it’s a terrible system that screws everybody royally isn’t sufficient reason to save the current crop of retirees from its depredations. Naturally, those of us of a certain age and stupid enough not to have received the Truth ala Perry, will be allowed to continue ruining our lives, and we’ll deserve all the pain and suffering it causes us.

  107. 107.

    eemom

    sheeyit, if it was a choice between the two, even I’d watch football.

    Fortunately, the lint filter in the dryer needs cleaning.

  109. 109.

    Morzer

    For my money, Perry doesn’t handle pressure at all well, which I find encouraging, given that he’s probably their nominee.

    Bachmann is now yapping about the Wilderness of Washington. Presumably she’s spent 40 days and 40 nights there resisting temptation.

  111. 111.

    Dennis SGMM

    Yeah my TV is cookin’. Right now it’s the Ian Mckellen version of “Richard III.” After that it’s “Miss Marple,” the Joan Hickson ones. I’m far from being an elitist I don’t see any purpose in giving my time to a pack of preposterous poseur pricks who will spend the “debate” trying to outdo one another in how comprehensively they’ll destroy what remains of America.

  113. 113.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Southern Beale:
    ‘Know they enemy’. Except that unless you’re a campaign worker of some kind, wild guesses as to who will be the nominee benefit you in no way. You already know they’re all insane. Let me try something else.

    ‘Point and laugh at the monkeys.’

  115. 115.

    realbtl

    I clicked over to check it out, lasted less than 90 seconds.

    ‘Nuff said. I’ll let the brave and strong of stomach watch so I don’t have to.

  119. 119.

    Morzer

    Ouch, Mittens has just said that Rick Perry was dealt four aces, which doesn’t make him a great poker player.

  120. 120.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    If you don’t want to watch the fucking debate, don’t watch it. If you don’t want to watch football, don’t watch it. Who gives a fuck?

  121. 121.

    Comrade Mary

    Oh God, the Grauniad blog is delicious. They’re not just ripping the GOP, they’re ripping The Economist:

    We are not the only people live-blogging this debate, of course. The Economist also ran a fantaistic [sic — why do you think we call them the Grauniad?] live blog of the last debate, with the different bloggers writing in different colours so they could archly call each other “Mr Pink” and “Mr Brown,” just like Reservoir Dogs. Here’s a highlight:

    Brown: I say, this Rick Perry fellow wouldn’t have got into Balliol.
    __
    Pink: Steady on Sebastian, I mean Mr Brown.
    __
    Green: He looks like a beefy fellow so he could probably have made the Oriel eights crew!
    __
    Brown: Oh hahaha Adrian. You’re so cruel.
    __
    If anyone can translate this into English, please do so. Here’s hoping they are live-blogging again tonight.

    88

    FYWP. And your little blockquotes, too.

  122. 122.

    Morzer

    Ouch, Mittens has just said that Rick Perry was dealt four aces, which doesn’t make him a great p.oker player.

  127. 127.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I may have to find a recording of this to watch later. Has Perry really learned to talk in meaningless sound bites? That would be bad. It’s ‘babbling dufus’ and ‘raving lunatic’ that the moderates refuse to vote for. Utterly shallow but confident sounding idiots like George Bush they find charming. I would like the GOP’s candidate to not have a snowball’s chance in Hell.

  128. 128.

    lamh32

    @Morzer: and the crowd is booing him

    man Romney betta damn sure hope that it’s true the Tea Party “movement” is waning and not as strong within the GOP, but I don’t think Romney is that lucky.

  130. 130.

    Morzer

    @Valdivia:

    Mittens stuck the knife in by pointing out that Perry’s job creation record was worse than Ann Richards’!

    I love the smell of napalm in the .. well, lateish evening.

  132. 132.

    lamh32

    wow Ron Paul really don’t like Rick Perry. Wonder if internt Paul-ites will accuse Perry of trying to intimidate Ron P?

  134. 134.

    Morzer

    Some vicious Commie prole has just asked if the candidates can be pro-worker as well as pro-business.

  135. 135.

    Comrade Mary

    @Morzer: Thanks, Morzer, but thanks also, too, to FYWP, that request for a translation was some sniggering from the Manchester red brick boys, not me.

  136. 136.

    Dennis SGMM

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    I saw it when it was in theatrical release. I didn’t think that one viewing was enough to fully appreciate it. Sloth and the complete short features of the Quay brothers have forestalled my buying it and viewing again.

  137. 137.

    And Another Thing...

    During the intro, Perry had his shoulders thrown back like a woman does who wants to emphasize her boobs… He reeks of Texas swagger.

  139. 139.

    Morzer

    Hermann Cain keeps talking about tinkin’ around the edges. I thought that was what Marcus Bachmann did?

  141. 141.

    Southern Beale

    This is weird. Just saw this ad on TV on the station operated by Sinclair Broadcasting, so of course I’m suspicious. Anyone know what this is about? Here’s the text:

    Congress cannot balance its budget so it has a plan!
    __
    It will seize local TV spectrum and sell it to others who will charge subscribers a monthly fee!
    __
    This could mean no more local news, sports or weather! Or no more emergency warnings when severe weather strikes or catostrophe occurs or if a child goes missing! All because Congress can’t manage the nation’s finances! __
    Call Congress today, tell them to leave Free TV alone!
    __
    (voice over: call Senator Bob Corker ….)
    __
    “This announcement sponsored by this station….”

    WTF is this about???

  144. 144.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @lamh32: There’s photos from (commercial break at) the last debate of Perry right in Psul’s face, pointing.

  147. 147.

    Morzer

    @gogol’s wife:

    If you can’t find something hilarious about a GOP debate, you really aren’t trying, because those boys (and Wacky Bachy) are seriously deranged – and they don’t even realize it.

  148. 148.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @Dennis SGMM: I agree, I watched it a couple of times. I had high hopes for Bredan Fraser and was sorry to see him fall into the crappy movies he has.

  149. 149.

    MikeJ

    Gary Johnson has been dipping into the green before tweeting tonight. Can somebody xlate: “23 percent consumption tax that is revenue neutral on new goods and services” into earthling?

  150. 150.

    MattR

    @lamh32: I won’t say anymore, but my on screen TV Guide has a description for next Friday’s premiere of Fringe that gives away how much time has passed since the finale.

  154. 154.

    gogol's wife

    @Morzer:

    Well, you made a debate with m_c entertaining this afternoon, so I think you have greater resources of humor than I do, by a long shot.

  155. 155.

    Dennis SGMM

    @Southern Beale:
    Um, the broadcast spectrum, AKA the public airwaves, have been sold pretty much since they became relevant. Corker is doing one of the things that Republicans do best: protecting us against a non-existent threat.

  158. 158.

    Anya

    @Morzer: Is she trying to get Sully’s support? Also, too, you are on a roll. You’ve won the internet, at least twice by my estimation.

  160. 160.

    lamh32

    @MattR: oooh, damn, I’m gonna have to try NOT to read it. I plan on watching “Fringe” season premiere live and with as little infor as possible. I’m that hooked.

    thx for the heads-up.

  161. 161.

    Morzer

    @Valdivia:

    In terms of the general election, I would worry about Mittens. He’s got the right degree of polished apple gloss, shamelessness and a sense that no lie is too petty to be put into circulation.

    I suspect that audience likes Perry almost as much as they like under-age corn-fed blondes in a jacuzzi.

    Bachmann is yipping from the fringes, Santorum is trying to get noticed by someone, anyone, Gingrich is babbling. Hermann Cain sounds like a blocked drain trying to clear itself. Ron Paul is impersonating a deranged gnome.

  164. 164.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @lamh32: From the Guardian blog:

    Oh good. Another break for ads. Somewhere back stage Rick Perry is poking Ron Paul in the eye again.

  165. 165.

    Dennis SGMM

    @lamh32:

    how much ya wanna bet CNN has a photographer taking pictures during the commericials to catch some “candid” shots like that too.

    Tonight: “Exclusive upskirt photos of Michel Bachmann, live at eleven!”

    Tomorrow morning: “Several thousand Red State men found dead of penIle chafing.”

  167. 167.

    lamh32

    Romney just can’t get ahead of this crowd. If Perry’s poll numbers don’t change, how soon do ya’ll think Romney’s team are gonna go for the jugular with the “gay rumors” that abound about perry?

    Naw Romney ain’t got the balls to do that

  172. 172.

    dmsilev

    @lamh32:

    If Perry’s poll numbers don’t change, how soon do ya’ll think Romney’s team are gonna go for the jugular with the “gay rumors” that abound about perry?

    Romney wouldn’t do that. Not directly, anyway.

    Karl Rove, on the other hand…

  175. 175.

    Quarks

    It does seem that Gary Johnson has inhaled some of those substances he would like to legalize before starting these sad little tweets tonight.

    But my sense of humor appreciates his weedy thoughtfulness.

  176. 176.

    JCT

    Boy, with all of this bashing of the “traitor” Bernanke I was half expecting them to all break into a spirited rendition of “Throw the Jew Down the Well”.

  177. 177.

    Morzer

    Romney really does himself no favors by chuckling so complacently when he answers questions. That and the shift-eyed, hair-greased werewolf look.

  182. 182.

    dmsilev

    Josh Marshall:

    Mitt had the crowd on fire with the part about VAT taxes being refundable under WTO.

    Heh.

  183. 183.

    Morzer

    Bachmann keeps talking about “little gurls” as if trying to imply that Rick Perry has been much too close to the innocent young virgins of Texas.

  184. 184.

    Boudica

    Offering the morning after pill (not an abortion!) is government intrusion? Bachmann is so full of shit.

  186. 186.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Morzer: I think the chuckling is Romney trying to do “folksy,” which he doesn’t do well. I still suspect he’s the most dangerous in the general, as he can tone down the far right radicalism since it’s an act. Perry actually seems to believe it.

  190. 190.

    Morzer

    Wow, Bachmann is virtually claiming that Perry raped little girls in exchange for campaign contributions from Merck!

    Perry says that it was only $5,000, so who cares anyway?

  191. 191.

    lamh32

    anyone watching the debate should play a game of “Where’s Waldo: The Tea Party Edition”. But instead of trying to find Waldo, try finding more than 5-10 African Americans in the audience who are not crew members or employees of CNN.

    Sorry, Herman Cain doesn’t count.

  194. 194.

    Morzer

    And Rick Santorum, well known as a woman’s uterus freedom fighter, decides to do some equal opportunity Perry bashing.

  196. 196.

    Morzer

    Hermann Cain wants loser pay laws. Or possibly looser pay laws. Fools or whores, Hermann has a policy for y’all.

  198. 198.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    @dmsilev: Michelle accused him of taking money from Merk (sp) for the injection order. Perry said, “sheettt, it was only 5 grand and I raised a hundred gazzuilion. If you think I can be bought for 5 grand I am offended.”

  200. 200.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Morzer: If Jeebus wanted those girls to have a cervix free of cancer, they would have one, and without any government injections. Kinda pisses me off, personally, since I had the damned disease.

  201. 201.

    Dennis SGMM

    @SIA:
    Apologize for raising your expectations. The episodes starring Joan Hickson were on sale in boxed sets at Barnes & Noble. We snapped them up.

  203. 203.

    Morzer

    Rick Perry looks like a small, melancholy grey frog when asked whether Massachusetts had the right to pass Romneycare.

  208. 208.

    bondirotta

    God bless Bachmann… she really tore into the little girl issue. She did not let go and she managed to smear Perry as a corrupt corporate tool.

  210. 210.

    Satanicpanic

    It’s truly embarassing that Perry is able to compare his record on healthcare favorably to Romney’s.

  212. 212.

    Boudica

    People in audience yellling “yeah!” to whether an injured uninsured person should be left to die….sad, sad, sad.

  213. 213.

    Morzer

    I have to say that Wolf Blitzer has actually been pretty good at keeping the candidates on the questions and following up on them.

  215. 215.

    Morzer

    Ron Paul wants us to legalize alternative health care providers. No horse doctor, no snake oil pedlar, no shaman in a shack left behind!

  216. 216.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    Apropos of Morzer at 206: if you’d like to donate to help support, educate and advocate for people with mental illness and their families, look here. It’s kind of a nice break from the debate liveblog. And it’s a really good cause for an affiliate too small to have an official NAMI walk.

  218. 218.

    Southern Beale

    @eemom:

    I’m sorta sad he felt the need to respond and “clarify.” That means he’s getting pressure from “upstairs.” Next step is an apology and then he’s fired.

    He should have just left it alone.

  221. 221.

    Morzer

    Bachmann is announcing that 2012 is the End of the World unless Obamacare is repealed root and branch.

    I still think that Revelation does the wide-eyed, self-soiling prophetic schtick better.

  223. 223.

    Chris

    I’m only following this via news updates, but did Romney really say “we’re an energy-rich nation living like an energy-poor nation?”

    This guy wouldn’t know an energy-poor nation if it bit him in the ass! We are pigging out like nobody’s business when it comes to energy consumption, apparently with the assumption that the oil will never run out. If we’re not living like an energy-rich nation, there is no such thing.

  226. 226.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @bondirotta: Again from the Guarduan:

    “I’m offended on behalf of all the young girls,” replies Bachmann, her best shot of the campaign so far.
    __
    That was a very bad exchange for Perry on so many levels. At this rate, it could derail his campaign.

    If only it could…

  228. 228.

    Boudica

    The hypocrisy and self-delusion in that room (and not just from the candidates) could fuel this country for a decade if we could bottle it.

  229. 229.

    bondirotta

    So much love for Bachmann right now…. she is taking the crazy to another level, really drawing blood on her frantic attack on Mitt. Her kind of derangement makes Mitt and even Perry look bloodless and moderate.

    She just might be able to claw back into the fight and force the top two guys into lurching even more into extreme right.

  231. 231.

    Boudica

    What is being said that wasn’t discussed 5 days ago in the last debate? Why were these scheduled so close together?

  232. 232.

    Southern Beale

    @gogol’s wife:

    Oh God. It’s just so fucking stupid. I wouldn’t disagree with anything he said in that first column, it was basically what I said in my own 9/11 post (but phrased much better, of course)…

    The discourse in this country makes me NUTS.

  234. 234.

    SIA

    @Dennis SGMM: Oh OK. Yeah I got pretty excited for a minute. Joan Hickson is the PERFECT Miss Marple, in the same league as Suchet as Poirot and Britt as Sherlock. (though I now include Cumberbatch -sp?- as a very worthy Sherlock as well).

    In other news. My wing nut mama is here for the night, watching the Crazy Train on TV downstairs. I didnt realize gazillionaire Wm Buffet had become the new right wing boogie man. LOL.

  235. 235.

    Anne Laurie

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    Somewhere back stage Rick Perry is poking Ron Paul in the eye again.

    That’ll work nicely in the Romney ads pointing out that Perry hates elfin old white people, and wants to steal their Social Security.

    Perry’s gonna get himself pied by a deranged Paulite if he’s not careful.

  240. 240.

    dslak

    As someone who’s sponsored an immigrant, Bachmann’s claims are complete bullshit. People aren’t allowed into the country unless they can show demonstrable ability to support themselves, or prove support from a sponsor in the US. And fuck her for conflating liberalized immigration laws, which ended discrimination against Asians, and illegal immigration across the Southern US border.

  241. 241.

    Anne Laurie

    @lamh32:

    Naw Romney ain’t got the balls to do that

    Believe me, Willard’s got the ‘balls’ to do WHATEVER IT TAKES. My bet would be high-mindedly deploring the vile, vile rumors about that Texas guy — don’t people know how hurtful such talk must be to his poor, unfortunate wife? *

    * I’m still betting on a papparazzi-sparked implosion with Mrs. Perry going full-bore Tammy Fay Bakker…

  242. 242.

    JCT

    Let’s keep this up — get the Latino vote for Republicans into the single digits.

    The best part of this is imagining the general election, good luck to any of these idiots when it comes time to move to the center. Their new BFFs in the Tea Party will pull them back to the right (of Attila the Hun) by their hair. What fun.

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    eemom

    @Southern Beale:

    I didn’t see it that way. From what he wrote I read it as a “What part of FUCK YOU did you not understand?” type “clarification.”

    I don’t think Krugman has anything to be afraid of. If the NYT were really to make such an utter and abject fool of itself as to fire him, he’ll have offers from every other medium left of the WSJ in five minutes.

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    Hal

    @bondirotta:

    So much love for Bachmann right now…. she is taking the crazy to another level, really drawing blood on her frantic attack on Mitt. Her kind of derangement makes Mitt and even Perry look bloodless and moderate.

    “And she’s dancin like she’s never danced before!” Let me know when she pulls the lever and releases the bucket of water on all over her body.

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    Dennis SGMM

    @SIA:

    The boxed sets are very inexpensive these days. I’m also a fan of Suchet as Poirot. Among the many things that make both shows so enjoyable for me are the very well acted minor characters and the meticulous attention to period detail in the choice if exteriors and the set dressing of the interiors.

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    Turgidson

    I would have said Sully a year ago, but he’s lost a step.

    He didn’t lose a step – he’s been an innumerate clown all along. Kudos again for putting him in the right category on the blogroll.

    BUT! He seems every bit as depressed and terrified by the GOP clown car demolition derby as any rational person should be, and his live-blogging is worth a look. He seems utterly petrified by the idea of Perry running the show. And for the right reasons.

    Maybe his continuing affinity for “Obama the real Burkean Conservative” will keep him in line for this election season. But the recent and not-apologized-for Paul Ryan tonguebath is still fresh in mind – he may yet find a reason to praise Perry’s humble Oakeshottian instincts. Or whatever.

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    harlana

    ok, so my guess is, romney loses the primary b/c of the south, perry wins – obama wins the general

    amirite?

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