I’ll be watching the football so tell me what happens. I’ll follow John’s twitter feed too. What else are good places? I would have said Sully a year ago, but he’s lost a step.
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I’ll be watching the football so tell me what happens. I’ll follow John’s twitter feed too. What else are good places? I would have said Sully a year ago, but he’s lost a step.
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Linda Featheringill
I guess that CNN is the place to go.
John Cole
I’m watching football. I can’t watch more than one GOP debate every 7 days.
jl
There is probably a roller derby on some cable channel someplace too. Do we have to pay attention every time one shows up?
I will check in with (the mythical blog character) Cole’s Tweeter Twits, and watch him decompensate, devolve, and dissolve in 140 character chunks.
lamh32
not watching debate, not watching football, will prob watch old episodes of Family Guy on TBS.
I’ll def follow Cole on twitter though. Dude is hella funny at 140 characters.
ETA: well I guess I won’t be following cole then…still aint watching it.
4jkb4ia
I will be trying to avoid heart failure in the 4th set. A Tea Party Express debate!?
ETA: B”H, I was really worried about how much John would have to drink to get through this.
2nd ETA: Shit, Djokovic is being seen to by the trainer.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@John Cole: Man you had people worried!
Corner Stone
Foot.Ball.
kdaug
CNN’s the sponsoring network, so they’ll have the incentive to go through with minimum breaks.
Cat Lady
If you’re watching the debate, drink when you hear “job creators”. If you’re watching the game, drink when you hear Jon Gruden say “this guy”. Either way, it’s gonna be ugly.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Picture in picture is the cure.
Jenny
Has anyone cut back on wine consumption/purchases due to the recession?
I often see people discuss wine on this board, so I thought it would be a good place to ask.
I just saw an interesting story on how vineyards were hit during the recession with declining sales, but have finally turned around with sales starting to pick up.
Could this be a leading indicator?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@John Cole:
No doubt because of DougJ spoof fatigue.
Is this an open enough thread for a good cause bleg – for helping disadvantaged people, not pets?
lamh32
btw, how long is this crap-fest supposed to last?
jl
I just found out that there seem to be two Monday Night Footballs. The first involve acutal pro teams.
I’m not sure the Raiders/Broncos game qualifies as real football.
But the early game is legit.
And Another Thing...
ABC Nadal v Djokovic… GREAT tennis.
Jenny
My girlfriend told me, “when Perry accepts the nomination at the convention, the crowd will be chanting
DRILL, BABY, DRILL!‘KILL, BABY, KILL!'”.Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh32: till the first Tuesday after the first Sunday in November (isn’t that it?) of next year.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
This is horseshit, how can an organization like the Teaparty sponsor this?
Warren Terra
Two live-blogs:
TPM
The Slog (the group blog of The Stranger, Seattle’s only newspaper that matters).
ETA The Slog’s live-blog may not be the most informative, but it promises to be the most fun.
ETA2 The Stranger‘s managing editor (or whatever the title is) is Dan Savage, the guy who coined the term “Santorum”. Which tells you anything you need to know about their newsroom’s leanings and sense of decorum.
dmsilev
The computing gods don’t want me to watch; I try to load the stream on cnn’s website, and a dialog box appears asking me if I want to install some bizarre Flash extension. None of the buttons on said dialog actually do anything; the page is just stuck.
Thank you, computer gods! I have been blessed!
MikeJ
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Depends on which teaparty it is. Each of the major ones have some big money guy behind them.
jl
Oops. Cole’s GOP debate twits from last week. Sorry.
I don’t understand The Tweeter very well.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@MikeJ: express
Morzer
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
We still haven’t seen actual evidence of Cole-presence as opposed to the Furry White Hell-Fist of Tyranny on the keyboard.
Maude
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
They feel that they can do what they want. So there.
licensed to kill time
Wolfie sounds waaaaay too excited, poor dear.
BGinCHI
Have a look at this quote from Hermann Goering while you watch the GOP debate.
http://boingboing.net/2011/09/12/for-911-boing-boing-flickr-pool.html
Tell me they wouldn’t endorse it if they didn’t know who said it.
Also, I love how many debates there are: lots of room for mouthfulls of feet.
JCT
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): It’s worse than horseshit, it’s a fucking embarrassment. Really, that intro made me cringe. I guess choosing the Presidential candidate is some big dress-up party game.
Linda Featheringill
And they’re off . . .
Romney looks healthier than he did last time. Bachmann has on a nice outfit for the occasion. She needs to grab the spotlight more this time.
licensed to kill time
O say can you seegasm now….
MikeJ
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Aaaah, Russo, Marsh, and Associates.
arguingwithsignposts
when’s the first primary again?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@MikeJ: Hungadunga,Hungadunga,Hungadunga and McCormick. . . you left out a Hungadunga, the most important one.
mikefromArlington
Ouch. That was kinda rough.
hilts
CNN: The Assholes
What a stupid fucking intro to this moronic debate – Introducing each candidate with lame-ass nicknames
Kudos to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting for calling out CNN for their bullshit decision to team up with the tea party assholes for this debate
h/t http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4388
Warren Terra
I’m not watching the debate, but I am watching the streaming commentary at The Slog (which I linked above), whih informed me that they candidates pledged allegiance to a video of the flag, and that they then had the national anthem (a possible first at a debate?) and only Romney pretended to sing along (or, of course, perhaps did sing along).
arguingwithsignposts
Cain – “I am the only non-politician on this stage tonight.” {whistles}
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Wolf trying to chop Newt’s knees with that “don’t try to divide us”.
Davis X. Machina
@Jenny: No. People who had, and lost, health insurance, and got anti-depressants and statins on a prescription plan, have switched to plonk instead.
Better red than dead.
mikefromArlington
Blitzer must have a big stiffy right now.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Stole
schrodinger's cat
I think Tunch should join the Repblican Primary race. He can tell us how he gave up nip and accepted Ceiling Cat as his purrsonal savior.
ETA: He is white male fat cat, what else does one need?
Morzer
Would it be better if Jon Gruden did commentary for the debate and Wolf Blitzer babbled about football? Or would it make no real difference?
licensed to kill time
Social Security question first up out of the gate. And it’s tossed to Bachmann. “Obama stole it all!”
Calouste
@Warren Terra:
The Guardian also has a live blog rather unaffected by the usual restraint of the US MSM.
Alex S.
Eh, not enough interest… too soon after the other
Bondirotta
Michelle: we will never screw the geezers….. Just the thirty-somethings.
Linda Featheringill
For this audience, I would guess that the important question is who does better, Bachmann or Perry.
licensed to kill time
Romney pulls out Perry’s book and beats him about the head and shoulders with it. Metaphorically speaking.
MikeJ
@Alex S.: But it’s probably your last chance to see Bachmann. They need Stephen Fry to host.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
This mothefucker is going to accuse Mitter of scary talk.
Bondirotta
Perry: we will never give up on this noble Ponzi scheme
Bondirotta
Perry: we will never give up on this noble Ponzi scheme
schrodinger's cat
I haven’t yet seen any of the debates, getting a root canal sounds more pleasant.
Southern Beale
I”m watching the US Open. Djocovic is killing me here. Thought he was a goner and then he bounces back.
Satanicpanic
Perry getting called a flip flopper by Mitt!
Southern Beale
No pun intended.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
From The EConomist’s live bloggers
dmsilev
@Satanicpanic: Takes one to know one, I suppose.
Morzer
Which lunatic will out-lunatic the other lunatics for the lunatic lunatics of the lunatic party?
How much pander would a pander pand, if a pander could pand pand?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Jesus Hunstman is a moron.
schrodinger's cat
@schrodinger’s cat: Grammar edit: comment needs a before white. Another point in Tunch’s favor he has good hair, I mean fur. As for Social Security he loves the Cat Food Commission, provided the cat food is sushi grade tuna.
Southern Beale
@schrodinger’s cat:
I heard that. Why on earth would anyone other than a die-hard Teabagger want to watch? I’m a Democrat, I don’t vote in GOP primaries. None of this shit matters to me, save for the entertainment value, until November 2012. So I really don’t give a crap, save in the academic sense.
Plus, all of the candidates are crazy or boring. So really, mainstream media, wake me in November. And possibly not even then, unless someone sane shows up. Which I doubt will happen.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Fat little fuck is at it again.
Warren Terra
@Calouste:
And the Guardian blog links to The Economist‘s live-blog of the debate.
So far, the blogs of The Stranger and The Guardian both commented on the total lack of applause for Huntsman.
Bondirotta
The audience LURVES Perry – they do seem to hate Mitt.
Morzer
And Huntsman suggests that the Ryan Plan is the answer. So much for reasonable moderation.
gogol's wife
@schrodinger’s cat:
Same here. I’ve never had a root canal, but I’m sure it’s more pleasant than watching this.
Linda Featheringill
Yeah, Gingrich is really a politician.
Southern Beale
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I thought Huntsman’s first name was Jon, not Jesus.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Newtie?
licensed to kill time
Newt says “I don’t know why they’re worried about Perry scaring the people when Obama scares them every day!” Huge applause from the Tea Peeps.
They’re trying to sell SS privatization once again.
Groan.
Southern Beale
OMG OMG OMG
Djocovic pulls it off.
Morzer
@Linda Featheringill:
Newt really is the Underpants Gnome Candidate.
hilts
@Morzer:
It would be better for journalism if Wolf Blitzer and John King worked as greeters for Wal-Mart.
MikeJ
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Leave Tunch out of this.
PeakVT
@Satanicpanic: That’s a classic Republican tactic, perhaps one of their best. Nice to see them using it against each other.
Linda Featheringill
You know, Santorum is really boring. He doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.
schrodinger's cat
@Morzer: I am sure Sully is in seventh heaven.
Satanicpanic
Woah, Newt is still showing up for these? And Santorum?
Huntsman’s Nirvana reference went over like a lead balloon.
arguingwithsignposts
@hilts:
FTFY
lamh32
@Morzer: seriously it just amazes how people seem to like Huntsman for his “moderation” when 8 times out of 10 he sound just like the rest of the GOP.
Morzer
@Southern Beale:
I misread that as Gingrich pulling something off, which was a truly ghastly prospect.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Oh,a Negro in the crowd, that proves it!
Morzer
@lamh32:
He varies between unctuous rabidity and flagrant lunacy. Such is “reasonable conservatism” according to the Gospel of Sully.
schrodinger's cat
@gogol’s wife: I have had a root canal and trust me it is quite unpleasant, but at least they give you some local anesthesia while they are at it.
Chris
@Southern Beale:
Irrelevant even if they did: a sane person would have less support than Ron Paul, so there’s not much more motivation to watch.
In 2008 I actually did watch the debates – it was interesting watching their party explode into all its different factions and not be able to unite around a candidate. This time, they’re all just posturing and competing for the teabagger vote. Like you said – boring.
MikeJ
@schrodinger’s cat: I’ve got Beefeater. More of a general.
Morzer
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Give Ann Coulter five minutes and she’ll explain that the Negro is only there to steal wallets from real Americans.
lamh32
seems to me that no matter what Romney says, this audience is just NOT with him.
He’s getting the better of Perry, but due to the crowd’s reaction, the blows aren’t perceived as landing.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Morzer: ding
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Lawrence O’Donnell has upcoming interviews with the guy who’s going to lose Wiener’s seat, and then Patti Davis to talk about how this crowd doesn’t measure up to her pappy. Should cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth in Right Blogistan, if nothing else.
Morzer
Someone taught Bachmann the phrase “ownership society”. Sadly, the new software seems to have failed to install correctly.
hilts
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I’d swap Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann for Gary Johnson and Buddy Roemer, but then CNN wouldn’t be able to meet its quota for batshit crazy.
Morzer
@lamh32:
Which is a very good thing, because Romney is by far the most convincing candidate on stage.
eemom
@lamh32:
You are the only sane person on this blog.
Valdivia
@Morzer:
lol
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Morzer: conniving?
Linda Featheringill
“ownership society”
Margaret Thatch lives.
srv
Wait, wasn’t there just a debate? Is this some weekly torture fest I’m going to have to endure regularly?
Comrade Mary
@MikeJ: Well done. Well done, indeed. Two points.
Triassic Sands
Thank goodness, I can vote for Perry — apparently he just made the standard Republican promise — even though, according to Perry, Social Security is a Ponzi scheme and one gigantic lie, Preznit Perry will allow those currently on Social Security and those soon to be eligible to suffer the pain of Ponzi. I guess the fact that it’s a terrible system that screws everybody royally isn’t sufficient reason to save the current crop of retirees from its depredations. Naturally, those of us of a certain age and stupid enough not to have received the Truth ala Perry, will be allowed to continue ruining our lives, and we’ll deserve all the pain and suffering it causes us.
MikeJ
@Linda Featheringill: Actually yes, but some of us have the party supplies ready.
lamh32
@eemom: not that sane, I’m following updates on twitter…lol
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
If it’s a fucking risk then it’s uncertain.
Southern Beale
Wonder how many people will watch the Miss Universe pageant tonight instead of the Teabate?
eemom
sheeyit, if it was a choice between the two, even I’d watch football.
Fortunately, the lint filter in the dryer needs cleaning.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Looks like they forgot her stool.
Morzer
For my money, Perry doesn’t handle pressure at all well, which I find encouraging, given that he’s probably their nominee.
Bachmann is now yapping about the Wilderness of Washington. Presumably she’s spent 40 days and 40 nights there resisting temptation.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@eemom: That’s a time consuming task.
Dennis SGMM
Yeah my TV is cookin’. Right now it’s the Ian Mckellen version of “Richard III.” After that it’s “Miss Marple,” the Joan Hickson ones. I’m far from being an elitist I don’t see any purpose in giving my time to a pack of preposterous poseur pricks who will spend the “debate” trying to outdo one another in how comprehensively they’ll destroy what remains of America.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Mitt’s loves him some Tejas!
Frankensteinbeck
@Southern Beale:
‘Know they enemy’. Except that unless you’re a campaign worker of some kind, wild guesses as to who will be the nominee benefit you in no way. You already know they’re all insane. Let me try something else.
‘Point and laugh at the monkeys.’
Morzer
@srv:
Enhanced Interrogation Fest, please. You don’t want to make Donald Rumsfeld unsubscribe himself from you.
realbtl
I clicked over to check it out, lasted less than 90 seconds.
‘Nuff said. I’ll let the brave and strong of stomach watch so I don’t have to.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Dennis SGMM: Seen Gods and Monsters?
Jay
DougJ-
Since a Patriots game is on, could you bring back the DougJarvis Green-Ellis handle?
Morzer
Someone has downloaded new tape into Mittens. Seven points in his Master Plan.
Morzer
Ouch, Mittens has just said that Rick Perry was dealt four aces, which doesn’t make him a great poker player.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
If you don’t want to watch the fucking debate, don’t watch it. If you don’t want to watch football, don’t watch it. Who gives a fuck?
Comrade Mary
Oh God, the Grauniad blog is delicious. They’re not just ripping the GOP, they’re ripping The Economist:
88
FYWP. And your little blockquotes, too.
Morzer
Ouch, Mittens has just said that Rick Perry was dealt four aces, which doesn’t make him a great p.oker player.
Valdivia
@Morzer:
you are hands down killing it tonight my friend.
Morzer
@Comrade Mary:
He might have got into Oxford, but would have done so as a rower(i.e. meat-head jock) for a second-tier college.
Quarks
I have to say that Gov Gary Johnson’s bitter tweeting is pretty hilarious, and worth another link:
http://twitter.com/#!/govgaryjohnson
As is the Economist’s liveblogging:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/09/republican-nomination-0
hilts
@arguingwithsignposts:
Thanks, I appreciate your tweak.
If you buy into the concept of the multiverse, somewhere there exists such a universe. All we need to do is find the right wormhole to get there.
Frankensteinbeck
I may have to find a recording of this to watch later. Has Perry really learned to talk in meaningless sound bites? That would be bad. It’s ‘babbling dufus’ and ‘raving lunatic’ that the moderates refuse to vote for. Utterly shallow but confident sounding idiots like George Bush they find charming. I would like the GOP’s candidate to not have a snowball’s chance in Hell.
lamh32
@Morzer: and the crowd is booing him
man Romney betta damn sure hope that it’s true the Tea Party “movement” is waning and not as strong within the GOP, but I don’t think Romney is that lucky.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Morzer: Trust Fund Stanley said that to Perry?
Morzer
@Valdivia:
Mittens stuck the knife in by pointing out that Perry’s job creation record was worse than Ann Richards’!
I love the smell of napalm in the .. well, lateish evening.
Morzer
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Sure did, Sir. Yeehaw!
lamh32
wow Ron Paul really don’t like Rick Perry. Wonder if internt Paul-ites will accuse Perry of trying to intimidate Ron P?
gogol's wife
@Morzer:
You are a very funny person.
Morzer
Some vicious Commie prole has just asked if the candidates can be pro-worker as well as pro-business.
Comrade Mary
@Morzer: Thanks, Morzer, but thanks also, too, to FYWP, that request for a translation was some sniggering from the Manchester red brick boys, not me.
Dennis SGMM
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
I saw it when it was in theatrical release. I didn’t think that one viewing was enough to fully appreciate it. Sloth and the complete short features of the Quay brothers have forestalled my buying it and viewing again.
And Another Thing...
During the intro, Perry had his shoulders thrown back like a woman does who wants to emphasize her boobs… He reeks of Texas swagger.
Omnes Omnibus
@Morzer: Isn’t that how Hugh Laurie got into Cambridge? Leaving aside that he is an OE.
Morzer
Hermann Cain keeps talking about tinkin’ around the edges. I thought that was what Marcus Bachmann did?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
has there been any mention of abortion or gay rights?
Southern Beale
This is weird. Just saw this ad on TV on the station operated by Sinclair Broadcasting, so of course I’m suspicious. Anyone know what this is about? Here’s the text:
WTF is this about???
eemom
so Morzer: why DID you leave us, and what brought you back?
Valdivia
@Morzer:
I am very curious to know from what you are seeing –I am not–who you think won.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@lamh32: There’s photos from (commercial break at) the last debate of Perry right in Psul’s face, pointing.
lamh32
@Morzer: is Bachmann even apart of this debate.
That Michelle, she ain’t no Sarah “the grifta” Palin.
Comrade Mary
Oh man, Gary Johnson is a pathetic prat.
Morzer
@gogol’s wife:
If you can’t find something hilarious about a GOP debate, you really aren’t trying, because those boys (and Wacky Bachy) are seriously deranged – and they don’t even realize it.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Dennis SGMM: I agree, I watched it a couple of times. I had high hopes for Bredan Fraser and was sorry to see him fall into the crappy movies he has.
MikeJ
Gary Johnson has been dipping into the green before tweeting tonight. Can somebody xlate: “23 percent consumption tax that is revenue neutral on new goods and services” into earthling?
MattR
@lamh32: I won’t say anymore, but my on screen TV Guide has a description for next Friday’s premiere of Fringe that gives away how much time has passed since the finale.
hilts
Who will portray Rick Perry in the upcoming SNL parody debate of tonight’s parody debate?
lamh32
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): yeah, I posted those here when they were online.
how much ya wanna bet CNN has a photographer taking pictures during the commericials to catch some “candid” shots like that too.
they are gonna milk this thing for all it’s worth…bastards!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@And Another Thing…: Perry always sticks his chest out like that. It’s kind of desperate looking – actual tough guys don’t need that kind of puffery.
gogol's wife
@Morzer:
Well, you made a debate with m_c entertaining this afternoon, so I think you have greater resources of humor than I do, by a long shot.
Dennis SGMM
@Southern Beale:
Um, the broadcast spectrum, AKA the public airwaves, have been sold pretty much since they became relevant. Corker is doing one of the things that Republicans do best: protecting us against a non-existent threat.
schrodinger's cat
@Morzer: But if one the clowns on the stage gets elected next November then the joke will be on us.
Yutsano
@MikeJ: Kinda sounds like a VAT. Maybe. But that’s both Republican and libertarian anathema.
Anya
@Morzer: Is she trying to get Sully’s support? Also, too, you are on a roll. You’ve won the internet, at least twice by my estimation.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@schrodinger’s cat: We get the government we deserve.
lamh32
@MattR: oooh, damn, I’m gonna have to try NOT to read it. I plan on watching “Fringe” season premiere live and with as little infor as possible. I’m that hooked.
thx for the heads-up.
Morzer
@Valdivia:
In terms of the general election, I would worry about Mittens. He’s got the right degree of polished apple gloss, shamelessness and a sense that no lie is too petty to be put into circulation.
I suspect that audience likes Perry almost as much as they like under-age corn-fed blondes in a jacuzzi.
Bachmann is yipping from the fringes, Santorum is trying to get noticed by someone, anyone, Gingrich is babbling. Hermann Cain sounds like a blocked drain trying to clear itself. Ron Paul is impersonating a deranged gnome.
Yutsano
This is why we need football threads too: Brady just got picked off.
EDIT: And it’s now tied.
Satanicpanic
Hermain Cain- inflations, how do they work?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@lamh32: From the Guardian blog:
Dennis SGMM
@lamh32:
Tonight: “Exclusive upskirt photos of Michel Bachmann, live at eleven!”
Tomorrow morning: “Several thousand Red State men found dead of penIle chafing.”
eemom
oooh, Krugman ups the ante.
shorter Krug: suck my dick, Rummy.
I love the man.
lamh32
Romney just can’t get ahead of this crowd. If Perry’s poll numbers don’t change, how soon do ya’ll think Romney’s team are gonna go for the jugular with the “gay rumors” that abound about perry?
Naw Romney ain’t got the balls to do that
Valdivia
@Morzer:
my sense about Romney is the same. I hope Perry gets it.
kentropic
Anybody mention the Guardian yet?
Valdivia
Sully is having a heart attack. I think this primary is going to be a salutary experience for him.
schrodinger's cat
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Do I deserve them even if I don’t vote for them?
dmsilev
@lamh32:
Romney wouldn’t do that. Not directly, anyway.
Karl Rove, on the other hand…
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Valdivia: Maybe if he dies people will quit talking about him here all the time.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@schrodinger’s cat: That’s the way it works.
Quarks
It does seem that Gary Johnson has inhaled some of those substances he would like to legalize before starting these sad little tweets tonight.
But my sense of humor appreciates his weedy thoughtfulness.
JCT
Boy, with all of this bashing of the “traitor” Bernanke I was half expecting them to all break into a spirited rendition of “Throw the Jew Down the Well”.
Morzer
Romney really does himself no favors by chuckling so complacently when he answers questions. That and the shift-eyed, hair-greased werewolf look.
Valdivia
@JCT:
exactly! Maybe they need Sasha Baron Cohen.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Cervical cancer is a horrible way to die. The Chair is great!
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
A government injection!
SIA
@Dennis SGMM: What station is Miss Marple on?! My fav!
dmsilev
Josh Marshall:
Heh.
Morzer
Bachmann keeps talking about “little gurls” as if trying to imply that Rick Perry has been much too close to the innocent young virgins of Texas.
Boudica
Offering the morning after pill (not an abortion!) is government intrusion? Bachmann is so full of shit.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Whoa, Bachmann goes for the nuts!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Morzer: I think the chuckling is Romney trying to do “folksy,” which he doesn’t do well. I still suspect he’s the most dangerous in the general, as he can tone down the far right radicalism since it’s an act. Perry actually seems to believe it.
Boudica
How much can Perry be bought for? We know what he is, now we’re just haggling over price….
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
We’ve established what you are, now we are just haggling over the price.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Boudica: You are really smart.
Morzer
Wow, Bachmann is virtually claiming that Perry raped little girls in exchange for campaign contributions from Merck!
Perry says that it was only $5,000, so who cares anyway?
lamh32
anyone watching the debate should play a game of “Where’s Waldo: The Tea Party Edition”. But instead of trying to find Waldo, try finding more than 5-10 African Americans in the audience who are not crew members or employees of CNN.
Sorry, Herman Cain doesn’t count.
dmsilev
@Boudica:
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
What was the context of Perry calling himself a whore? Not that I doubt you folks, but I’m definitely curious.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Morzer: And man on dog is right there with her!
Morzer
And Rick Santorum, well known as a woman’s uterus freedom fighter, decides to do some equal opportunity Perry bashing.
4tehlulz
Rick Perry raped and murdered a young girl in 2007.
Morzer
Hermann Cain wants loser pay laws. Or possibly looser pay laws. Fools or whores, Hermann has a policy for y’all.
Linda Featheringill
I think we can stop worrying about a Bachmann presidency.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@dmsilev: Michelle accused him of taking money from Merk (sp) for the injection order. Perry said, “sheettt, it was only 5 grand and I raised a hundred gazzuilion. If you think I can be bought for 5 grand I am offended.”
wasabi gasp
Nine toppings. Nine cheesy breads. Nine dollars!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Morzer: If Jeebus wanted those girls to have a cervix free of cancer, they would have one, and without any government injections. Kinda pisses me off, personally, since I had the damned disease.
Dennis SGMM
@SIA:
Apologize for raising your expectations. The episodes starring Joan Hickson were on sale in boxed sets at Barnes & Noble. We snapped them up.
Boudica
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Great minds…etc.
Morzer
Rick Perry looks like a small, melancholy grey frog when asked whether Massachusetts had the right to pass Romneycare.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Boudica: and sewers!
Anne Laurie
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
If this isn’t an elaborate set-up for a special-needs Teabagger joke, go for it!
Morzer
@Linda Featheringill:
It has been a constant source of mental torment to me.
dmsilev
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Got it, thanks. So Perry was basically saying “I may be a whore, but at least I’m not a *cheap* whore”.
bondirotta
God bless Bachmann… she really tore into the little girl issue. She did not let go and she managed to smear Perry as a corrupt corporate tool.
Baud
I’m watching football, but all your comments almost make me want to watch the debates. Almost.
Satanicpanic
It’s truly embarassing that Perry is able to compare his record on healthcare favorably to Romney’s.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
More death YEAAAAAA’s from these fucking scumbags.
Boudica
People in audience yellling “yeah!” to whether an injured uninsured person should be left to die….sad, sad, sad.
Morzer
I have to say that Wolf Blitzer has actually been pretty good at keeping the candidates on the questions and following up on them.
Boudica
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): Now you’re scaring me….
Morzer
Ron Paul wants us to legalize alternative health care providers. No horse doctor, no snake oil pedlar, no shaman in a shack left behind!
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Apropos of Morzer at 206: if you’d like to donate to help support, educate and advocate for people with mental illness and their families, look here. It’s kind of a nice break from the debate liveblog. And it’s a really good cause for an affiliate too small to have an official NAMI walk.
JCT
@bondirotta: And all she had to do was point out some basic FACTS that are easy to find. Heaven forfend a journalist try the same. Maybe just ONCE?
Southern Beale
@eemom:
I’m sorta sad he felt the need to respond and “clarify.” That means he’s getting pressure from “upstairs.” Next step is an apology and then he’s fired.
He should have just left it alone.
Yutsano
@Satanicpanic: Perry didn’t do none of that sociallistic healthcare!! So take that Willard you hippie!
Satanicpanic
“Are you saying that society should just let him die?”
Anyone else hear “yeaaah!”?
Morzer
Bachmann is announcing that 2012 is the End of the World unless Obamacare is repealed root and branch.
I still think that Revelation does the wide-eyed, self-soiling prophetic schtick better.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@Satanicpanic: people that weren’t even watching it could hear it.
Chris
I’m only following this via news updates, but did Romney really say “we’re an energy-rich nation living like an energy-poor nation?”
This guy wouldn’t know an energy-poor nation if it bit him in the ass! We are pigging out like nobody’s business when it comes to energy consumption, apparently with the assumption that the oil will never run out. If we’re not living like an energy-rich nation, there is no such thing.
gogol's wife
@Southern Beale:
They made Joe Nocera apologize, so I don’t see why Krugman would escape.
JCT
@Boudica: And I’ll bet they would all self-identify as Christians. Who would Jesus neglect and all that.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@bondirotta: Again from the Guarduan:
If only it could…
Morzer
@JCT:
Anyone but the money-changers, baby.
Boudica
The hypocrisy and self-delusion in that room (and not just from the candidates) could fuel this country for a decade if we could bottle it.
bondirotta
So much love for Bachmann right now…. she is taking the crazy to another level, really drawing blood on her frantic attack on Mitt. Her kind of derangement makes Mitt and even Perry look bloodless and moderate.
She just might be able to claw back into the fight and force the top two guys into lurching even more into extreme right.
Helen
@Satanicpanic:
Yep I heard it
Boudica
What is being said that wasn’t discussed 5 days ago in the last debate? Why were these scheduled so close together?
Southern Beale
@gogol’s wife:
Oh God. It’s just so fucking stupid. I wouldn’t disagree with anything he said in that first column, it was basically what I said in my own 9/11 post (but phrased much better, of course)…
The discourse in this country makes me NUTS.
Boudica
Perry wants boots on the ground on the border…but how is he gonna pay for it?
SIA
@Dennis SGMM: Oh OK. Yeah I got pretty excited for a minute. Joan Hickson is the PERFECT Miss Marple, in the same league as Suchet as Poirot and Britt as Sherlock. (though I now include Cumberbatch -sp?- as a very worthy Sherlock as well).
In other news. My wing nut mama is here for the night, watching the Crazy Train on TV downstairs. I didnt realize gazillionaire Wm Buffet had become the new right wing boogie man. LOL.
Anne Laurie
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
That’ll work nicely in the Romney ads pointing out that Perry hates elfin old white people, and wants to steal their Social Security.
Perry’s gonna get himself pied by a deranged Paulite if he’s not careful.
JCT
@Boudica: More of his creative bookkeeping, no doubt.
Boudica
Wolf moving onto Huntsman….is he still on the stage?
Boudica
Oooh…audience isn’t liking the in-state tuition for illegals…..booing Perry.
Morzer
Huntsman has just accused Perry of treason for saying the border cannot be secured!
dslak
As someone who’s sponsored an immigrant, Bachmann’s claims are complete bullshit. People aren’t allowed into the country unless they can show demonstrable ability to support themselves, or prove support from a sponsor in the US. And fuck her for conflating liberalized immigration laws, which ended discrimination against Asians, and illegal immigration across the Southern US border.
Anne Laurie
@lamh32:
Believe me, Willard’s got the ‘balls’ to do WHATEVER IT TAKES. My bet would be high-mindedly deploring the vile, vile rumors about that Texas guy — don’t people know how hurtful such talk must be to his poor, unfortunate wife? *
* I’m still betting on a papparazzi-sparked implosion with Mrs. Perry going full-bore Tammy Fay Bakker…
JCT
Let’s keep this up — get the Latino vote for Republicans into the single digits.
The best part of this is imagining the general election, good luck to any of these idiots when it comes time to move to the center. Their new BFFs in the Tea Party will pull them back to the right (of Attila the Hun) by their hair. What fun.
eemom
@Southern Beale:
I didn’t see it that way. From what he wrote I read it as a “What part of FUCK YOU did you not understand?” type “clarification.”
I don’t think Krugman has anything to be afraid of. If the NYT were really to make such an utter and abject fool of itself as to fire him, he’ll have offers from every other medium left of the WSJ in five minutes.
phantomist
Perry wants boots on the ground on the border…but how is he gonna pay for it?
,
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Tax cuts.
Hal
@bondirotta:
“And she’s dancin like she’s never danced before!” Let me know when she pulls the lever and releases the bucket of water on all over her body.
Dennis SGMM
@SIA:
The boxed sets are very inexpensive these days. I’m also a fan of Suchet as Poirot. Among the many things that make both shows so enjoyable for me are the very well acted minor characters and the meticulous attention to period detail in the choice if exteriors and the set dressing of the interiors.
Turgidson
He didn’t lose a step – he’s been an innumerate clown all along. Kudos again for putting him in the right category on the blogroll.
BUT! He seems every bit as depressed and terrified by the GOP clown car demolition derby as any rational person should be, and his live-blogging is worth a look. He seems utterly petrified by the idea of Perry running the show. And for the right reasons.
Maybe his continuing affinity for “Obama the real Burkean Conservative” will keep him in line for this election season. But the recent and not-apologized-for Paul Ryan tonguebath is still fresh in mind – he may yet find a reason to praise Perry’s humble Oakeshottian instincts. Or whatever.
Bruce S
“Twitter feed”
That is, of course, the appropriate venue for a GOP debate. Why is it on my TeeVee again this week?
harlana
ok, so my guess is, romney loses the primary b/c of the south, perry wins – obama wins the general
amirite?