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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2012 / Perry-lized With Fear And Doubt

Perry-lized With Fear And Doubt

by Zandar|  October 4, 20118:53 am| 126 Comments

This post is in: Election 2012, Rick Perry Presents "Rick Perry", Teabagger Stupidity

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It seems Governor Goodhair is no longer the Shiny New Tea Party Savior anymore as his poll numbers have dropped like large painted-over rock.

It wasn’t supposed to be this way for Rick Perry.

A hard-talking embodiment of the conservative id, the Texas Governor entered the race in August and quickly shot to the front of the pack on broad appeal to the Tea Party base, and his message on job creation.

But something funny’s happening to Rick Perry on the way to what many expected to be a charge to the nomination: Namely, Rick Perry.

After a series of missteps and stumbles, most of his own making, the latest Washington Post / ABC News poll shows Perry having lost about half of his national support in the last month. The former frontrunner is now staring back up at his chief rival, former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney, and running neck-and-neck with the surging Herman Cain.

Now let’s keep in mind that these numbers were taken mostly before this weekend’s revelations about the name of Perry’s hunting camp in Texas.  The same caveat applies to Herman Cain’s numbers too.  Cain attacked Perry over the weekend, by Monday he was running away from his own statements because King Rush told him to know his role and shut his mouth.  Everything you need to know about Cain there is that he complied with near neutrino-level speed.

It’s arguable that Perry’s numbers may actually improve slightly thanks to this weekend’s events.  As for Cain, I expect we’ll see him back down among the also rans as soon as Chris Christie makes his announcement and becomes the next Shiny New Thing.

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  1. 1.

    EconWatcher

    October 4, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I have to root for the Mittster in all of this. Our basic institutions will probably survive a Romney presidency, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he governed mostly from the center, with the occasional piece of red meat thrown to the jackals. I don’t believe he’d sign a repeal of ACA. Yes, the court appointments are likely to be horrible.

    Of course, I’d prefer Obama, but if we double-dip, the chances of reelection are vanishingly small. I at least want someone sane. I have young kids. “Nach Hitler, uns” is not an attractive strategy for me.

  2. 2.

    PeakVT

    October 4, 2011 at 9:05 am

    It drives me nuts how the press aids and abets these candidate and potential candidate boomlets. I hate our media.

  3. 3.

    Hal

    October 4, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Cain attacked Perry over the weekend, by Monday he was running away from his own statements because King Rush told him to know his role and shut his mouth.

    Uh Herman? You’re a black Republican candidate. Rush is just reminding you of your place.

  4. 4.

    Ben Cisco

    October 4, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Cain attacked Perry over the weekend, by Monday he was running away from his own statements because King Rush told him to know his role and shut his mouth. Everything you need to know about Cain there is that he complied with near neutrino-level speed.

    THIS.
    __
    This needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
    __
    There is nothing different about Cain compared to the rest of the field. All are suckling at the bloated tit of Limpblow the Hutt. And we now know that they will tolerate a black man as a candidate under their banner, so long as he knows his role.
    __
    One wonders if Mr. Cain will ever learn he’s not truly a member of the club, but more like a server.

  5. 5.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 9:10 am

    @EconWatcher: He may be sane, but is he principled enough to keep the criminally insane elements in his party from trashing the nation? I doubt it.

  6. 6.

    WereBear

    October 4, 2011 at 9:10 am

    No. Romney would suck. We are not getting the Romney who was governor of MA; we are getting some strange laboratory creature who lives without a spine.

    At this point “sucking less” is not an option.

  7. 7.

    keith G

    October 4, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Texans saw this coming a long way off.

  8. 8.

    NonyNony

    October 4, 2011 at 9:13 am

    as soon as Chris Christie makes his announcement and becomes the next Shiny New Thing.

    I would be utterly shocked if Christie decided to announce he was running this year. When I found out that the “Christie buzz” over the last couple of weeks co-incided with a nationwide fundraising tour where he went around to help raise money for other Republicans in other states, I figured that explained his recent re-dalliance with the idea of running again. He gets his name in the paper, boosts those dollars coming in to help other candidates, they owe him favors and he gets his ego massaged for a couple of weeks.

    If the man decides to jump in to become the next GOP Savior candidate he’s a moron. His trajectory will be similar to Perry’s – someone fresh and new that people can project their hopes and dreams onto, only to see it all get dashed to hell once his actual record shows that he’s insufficiently hateful towards some group (probably Muslims – he’s occasionally said non-hateful things towards American Muslims).

    I thought Cain was on the fast track towards the nomination, what with his complete lack of any record to sully the wingnut projection. But then he had to go and remind the wingnuts that he’s black. My guess is that he’ll probably be sunk in the next poll and won’t be able to recover from it.

  9. 9.

    MattF

    October 4, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Romney’s campaign slogan will be “I’m not dumb, fat, crazy, or black.” It could work.

  10. 10.

    deep cap

    October 4, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Funny. Most of the wing nuts I know are all banking on Christie now. They must be in the minority though since it seems like Christie is ranked rather unfavorably in polls I’ve seen.

  11. 11.

    JGabriel

    October 4, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Zandar:

    As for Cain, I expect we’ll see him back down among the also rans as soon as Chris Christie makes his announcement and becomes the next Shiny New Thing.

    I don’t know when Chris Christie will be visiting the House of Representatives, but let me tell you, when Chris Christie sits around the House, he sits around the House. It’ll give new meaning to the Capitol Rotunda.

    .

  12. 12.

    JMG

    October 4, 2011 at 9:17 am

    The Republican dilemma is that they can’t decide which of their two desires matters most, to beat Obama, or to make the leader of the party a complete nasty ass who resembles the talk show hosts they adore.
    Also, they don’t trust Romney. As a Massachusetts resident, I can’t blame them there. Mitt will do what’s good for Mitt. Watch him to propose many of the expansionary fiscal policies — with a Republican spin, natch, such as more big tax cuts — the moment he’s elected if he is. If confronted with a Democratic Congress, he’ll look for compromises much as Obama has with a Republican House.
    But he can get elected, and Herman Cain sure can’t.

  13. 13.

    Corner Stone

    October 4, 2011 at 9:17 am

    @keith G: *coughs gently*

  14. 14.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 9:18 am

    @deep cap:

    My wingnut friends on Facebook all think Christie is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but none of them live in New Jersey.

  15. 15.

    JGabriel

    October 4, 2011 at 9:23 am

    @JMG:

    The Republican dilemma is that they can’t decide which of their two desires matters most, to beat Obama, or to make the leader of the party a complete nasty ass who resembles the talk show hosts they adore.

    That’s only a dilemma for party strategists. The rest of the GOP honestly believes, heart and soul, that a complete nasty ass, who resembles — at least rhetorically — the radio propaganda barkers they adore, is the best and most likely person to beat Obama.

    .

  16. 16.

    cleek

    October 4, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Limpo’s not crazy about Christie, either:

    Rush Limbaugh, who last year swooned over Christie’s tough-love style, last week said of the governor’s speech at the Reagan Presidential Library: “I heard a lot of John McCain in that speech … enough to raise a red flag or two.”

  17. 17.

    ...now I try to be amused

    October 4, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Damn, those 27-percenters sure are fickle. I thought they’d take defiant pride in every gaffe made by Dubya’s successor.

  18. 18.

    MattF

    October 4, 2011 at 9:27 am

    @JMG: I think I agree with this– what the wingers see in Christie is an angry man, and that’s what matters.

  19. 19.

    Mark S.

    October 4, 2011 at 9:28 am

    I like how the conventional wisdom is that Perry’s cratering is due to bad debate performances 50 people saw and the results of a Florida straw poll. It couldn’t possibly be comments about unconstitutional Ponzi schemes. We’re a center right nation and no one had any problem with that, no sirree.

  20. 20.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    October 4, 2011 at 9:29 am

    @PeakVT: I yell at the morning shows on a daily basis, much the amusement of my teenage daughter. Yesterday I listened to the main political correspondent on CBS, Jan Crawford, wonder aloud which political story would be the buzz story of the coming week. Oh, I don’t know, you moron, the one you keep reporting on?!?!? Least self-aware people ever.

  21. 21.

    Mark B.

    October 4, 2011 at 9:30 am

    There’s a reason why Perry refused to debate his opponents his last couple of runs for governor. He wanted to win.

  22. 22.

    Alex S.

    October 4, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Well, if Romney is the nominee it will certainly help to close the enthusiasm gap, because he will be accepted but not liked. On the other hand, his polling is absolutely stable around 25%. Even two terrible weeks of his worst rival don’t change that. The other 75% have to go somewhere. (Cain just needed 2-3 good news cycles to reach Romney’s numbers, how sad is that?) I’d really like to watch Romney fight against Christie though, even though the Christie bubble is likely to burst quickly.

  23. 23.

    deep cap

    October 4, 2011 at 9:34 am

    @Certified Mutant Enemy:

    Good point. My wingnut friends live in New England. (Though in fairness, they’re not really wingnuts, hence the reason they’re still my friends. If they were truly wingnuts, they’d be jerking off to Palin on a regular basis (who is still the front runner in terms of popularity.)

  24. 24.

    Emma

    October 4, 2011 at 9:34 am

    @EconWatcher: I hope your kids aren’t either female or gay. Because that’s where they’re going. Repealing any advances made by those two groups is pretty much the “red meat” he’ll throw to his base, which is easily distracted by social issues.

  25. 25.

    Mark B.

    October 4, 2011 at 9:34 am

    @Mark S.: Yeah, but the average low-information Republican primary voter wouldn’t have been aware of how far out there Rick was unless he had been called on it by his debate opponents.

  26. 26.

    JGabriel

    October 4, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Mark S.:

    I like how the conventional wisdom is that Perry’s cratering is due to bad debate performances 50 people saw and the results of a Florida straw poll. It couldn’t possibly be comments about unconstitutional Ponzi schemes.

    We’re talking about Perry cratering among Republicans. Among that crew, calling SS a Ponzi scheme is a feature not a bug. So, yeah, the conventional wisdom (at least among Republicans) is likely to be correct this time, unusual as that is.

    .

  27. 27.

    Rihilism

    October 4, 2011 at 9:36 am

    It’s arguable that Perry’s numbers may actually improve slightly thanks to this weekend’s events.

    Somehow I imagine a few internal conversations along the lines of, “Dagnabit, Perry lurves thems messicans, but he hates hisself some blacks. Guess he ain’t half bad.”…

  28. 28.

    Amir Khalid

    October 4, 2011 at 9:37 am

    If Christie decides to run (so to speak) for president, he’ll have to explain away his recent self-assessment that he isn’t ready for the job. Has he got a good explanation for what has changed, all of a sudden?

    @JGabriel:
    Tsk, tsk. Making fun of the fatness of Fat Chris Christie is Not Nice.

  29. 29.

    debit

    October 4, 2011 at 9:41 am

    @JGabriel: He’ll be here all week, folks! Try the veal!

  30. 30.

    RSA

    October 4, 2011 at 9:42 am

    @MattF:

    Romney’s campaign slogan will be “I’m not dumb, fat, crazy, or black.”

    “…though I am (per Pat Robertson) a member of a religious cult, and (per Glenn Beck) a soc-alist.”

  31. 31.

    kd bart

    October 4, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Republican Presidential Candidates remind me of backup quarterbacks. Everyone loves them until they actually play.

  32. 32.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 9:45 am

    @cleek: I’m sure Limblow is backing Romney again because he believes Mitt can most effectively sack the Treasury Dept. for his, and the rest of the wealthy class’s, gain.

  33. 33.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    October 4, 2011 at 9:46 am

    @keith G: This Texan, though, worries about the fact that Perry keeps winning anyway. Headline in Texas: Texas hates Perry, but hates Obama more. If the Republicans decide that Perry is the only one who they want in office, the money will turn on, no matter what. I do hope he’s doomed to failure, though.

  34. 34.

    harlana

    October 4, 2011 at 9:46 am

    did Limbaugh also browbeat Perry into saying “i’m sorry for calling teabaggers heartless, i really didn’t mean it”? he sure seemed awful contrite.

  35. 35.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 9:49 am

    its actually kind of sad….one of my conservo friends said Perry was “the best we have”.

    Christie is going to decline Trump-style i think.
    He said he’d announce in the next 24.

    Why arent the conservative elites begging Scott Brown to run?
    It seems like he’d be their best option at this point.

  36. 36.

    Moonbatting Average

    October 4, 2011 at 9:49 am

    If Republican primary voters actually cared about crony capitalism, this might be the finally final nail in Perry’s coffin:

    http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/state-outsourced-allocation-of-federal-disaster-recovery-funds-1893739.html

  37. 37.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 9:49 am

    @Amir Khalid: He could always say he’s forced into it because, as great as his humility is, his sense of duty to his country is greater, this is no time for timidness or hesitation, blah blah blah. There’s very little that can’t be spun away by campaign rhetoric.

  38. 38.

    Valdivia

    October 4, 2011 at 9:54 am

    @EconWatcher:

    I tend to disagree. If he becomes President he will have to govern like a nut to get anything done. They will never trust him to actually govern because they think he is a RINO. He will be worse than Bush.

  39. 39.

    MarkJ

    October 4, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Well, I can’t see Cain getting the nomination after “playing the race card” (although one wonders what constitutes a legitimate reason for playing said card if racial-epithet hunting lodge isn’t sufficient). I know he walked it back but that seems like an unforgivable sin for conservative voters.

    My prediction is that if Christy, after flirting with the idea, definitively announces he’s not running, conservatives will remember that Bachmann woman, who is somewhat more polished and coherent than Perry, and has all the right conservative credentials. They’ll come back ’round to her and it will be her or the Mittster.

  40. 40.

    cleek

    October 4, 2011 at 10:01 am

    draft Limbaugh!

  41. 41.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 10:02 am

    @Moonbatting Average: Jeebus H. No wonder Eric Cantor has been clamoring for his district’s disaster relief funds.

  42. 42.

    dmsilev

    October 4, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Well, Christie has apparently scheduled a press conference for early this afternoon, so I suppose we’ll be getting an answer to that particular question fairly soon. Of course, if he gets in, it’ll take a week or two at most for the GOP to fall out of love with him and start looking around for the next small shiny object. I don’t think there are all that many shiny objects left. Sarah Palin, I suppose, but who else?

    In any event, filing deadlines for primaries start coming up at the end of the month, so there’s really only another four weeks at most of stuffing more clowns into the car.

  43. 43.

    dmsilev

    October 4, 2011 at 10:05 am

    @cleek:

    draft Limbaugh!

    No, that won’t work. Limbaugh will claim a health exemption due to a cyst on his ass.

  44. 44.

    jwest

    October 4, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Christie won’t run because he’s smart enough to know he couldn’t get the republican nomination. Too liberal.

    If anyone is going to come in from the outside, it will be Palin or Marco Rubio.

  45. 45.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 10:05 am

    @MarkJ: theres some one else waiting in the wings.

  46. 46.

    Rommie

    October 4, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Christie (and Jeb and Rubio) *really* want to run in 2016, so their price to jump into the 2012 mess is full of zeros. Will enough trucks full of $$$ pull up to the NJ Governor’s mansion to meet Christie’s demands?

  47. 47.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 10:08 am

    @jwest: At this point, it doesn’t even matter who gets in. They’re all sheer box office.

  48. 48.

    Amir Khalid

    October 4, 2011 at 10:10 am

    What kind of person would Cain be if he didn’t object to a place name like N*gg*rhead? You don’t have to be black to find that deeply offensive. Rush Limbaugh chastising him for objecting is just another opportunity for Democrats to pin the “un-American” label all the more firmly on the Republican party. Especially if Cain suffers because of this.

  49. 49.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 10:10 am

    @Rommie: no.

    BAM!
    its NRO sourced.

    if Scott Brown loses to Elizabeth Warren, it will be Brown/Rubio in 2016 i bet. :)

  50. 50.

    flukebucket

    October 4, 2011 at 10:11 am

    @cleek:

    draft Limbaugh!

    Shit. No way he would take the actual work and the pay cut it would take to do the job.

    @jwest:

    Christie won’t run because he’s smart enough to know he couldn’t get the republican nomination. Too liberal.
    If anyone is going to come in from the outside, it will be Palin or Marco Rubio.

    Agree 100%. But Palin has enough sense to stay where she is. She knows there is more money riding the same train Limbaugh is riding. I would put my money on Rubio.

  51. 51.

    jwest

    October 4, 2011 at 10:11 am

    @Ash Can:

    The republican nominee is important to everyone, as by now it should be clear even to you that Obama doesn’t stand a chance of reelection.

  52. 52.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 10:12 am

    @Rommie:

    I really hope this country isn’t stupid enough to put another Bush in the White House…

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    October 4, 2011 at 10:14 am

    @jwest: If you believe the rumor mill, Christie is going to announce this afternoon that he will not be running for President. Which shouldn’t really be much of a surprise, given that the odds of him winning the nomination would have to be very small considering his record vs. the views of the GOP primary electorate.

    Onwards to the next shiny object! The search for not-Romney 2012 continues!

  54. 54.

    elmo

    October 4, 2011 at 10:14 am

    @kd bart:

    LOL, so funny, so true, but it made me think “Tebow for President!” and now I want to crawl under my desk and cry.

  55. 55.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 10:14 am

    @cleek:
    @dmsilev:

    Actually, I bet that’s Limbaugh’s greatest dream — to have all the kingmakers come begging to him on their hands and knees to become Emperor of the Universe, in which position he’d finally have the power to get back once and for all at all the people who, throughout his life, mocked him, got the jobs he wanted to get, had happier lives, and declined to go out with him.

  56. 56.

    Alex S.

    October 4, 2011 at 10:14 am

    @Samara Morgan:

    Interesting idea. He voted for the small jobs bill, the HIRE Act, in 2010 though.

  57. 57.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 10:16 am

    @Ash Can:

    Rush Limbaugh is the Vladimir Harkonnen of American politics…

  58. 58.

    keith G

    October 4, 2011 at 10:16 am

    @Belafon: His success has been in very specific arenas. Scaling up to a broader population was/is the issue for Perry

  59. 59.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 10:17 am

    @jwest: You poor thing. You never did get over Hillary, did you? Or was it Kucinich?

  60. 60.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

    @flukebucket: Rubio is waiting for 2016….but he could be tapped for the VP slot in 2012.
    Christie may be the VP….who can say?

  61. 61.

    RossInDetroit

    October 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

    It’s a good thing in a way that Cain doesn’t have a real shot at the nom, and in another way it’s a shame.
    That would be a US presidential election between two black men. Part of me wants to cheer at the idea that it could happen. Another part of me knows how easy it is to make ANFO bombs and is very afraid of the people who would be driven nuts by that matchup.

  62. 62.

    Culture of Truth

    October 4, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Save some campaign money for Samsung cause this dude is toast

  63. 63.

    Amir Khalid

    October 4, 2011 at 10:19 am

    @Samara Morgan:
    If Scott Brown can’t hold on to his US Senate seat, how credible will he be as a presidential candidate in 2016?

  64. 64.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 10:20 am

    @Samara Morgan:

    If so, that means Republicans think Obama will get reelected…

  65. 65.

    jwest

    October 4, 2011 at 10:20 am

    How many people here still believe Obama will be the Democrat nominee?

  66. 66.

    Paul in KY

    October 4, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Nice post, Zandar.

    Was up your way Fri nite at Riverbend to see Death Cab for Cutie.

    Wouldn’t count Perry out yet. It is still a long way to conventions, etc.

  67. 67.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 10:25 am

    @jwest: You’re adorable. ::pets the little troll::

  68. 68.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 10:25 am

    @Alex S.: doesnt matter– hes attractive.
    :)
    Cain is the new populist candidate, and hes kickin’ ass in florida.
    I still think a mormon cant be elected president in America.
    comment from NRO.

    Seahawk : 10/04/11 09:57
    Guess that settles it. It’s Romney or bust.
    Reply to this commentLinkReport Abuse

    so they will lose.

  69. 69.

    Chyron HR

    October 4, 2011 at 10:25 am

    [A]ccusing the presidential candidate from Georgia of participating in a “mainstream media” conspiracy to destroy the prospects of his rival, Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

    The “mainstream media” made a presidential candidate attack one of his opponents? Is this code, or are the drugs getting to Rush?

  70. 70.

    Chris

    October 4, 2011 at 10:26 am

    @Certified Mutant Enemy:

    If so, that means Republicans think Obama will get reelected…

    More likely it means they don’t want to have to run the country when the economic situation is so disastrous. By 2012 or 2016, they hope, “someone else” will have cleaned it up and they can run for president of a happy, not-too-demanding country again.

  71. 71.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 10:27 am

    @Certified Mutant Enemy: i think so.
    they need to get +65% of the white vote to beat Obama, and if mitt is the candidate they wont get it.

  72. 72.

    WereBear

    October 4, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Fred Thompson should be rested up.

  73. 73.

    Culture of Truth

    October 4, 2011 at 10:29 am

    This was before the major Cain endorsement by Hank Williams Jr. That could be a real game changer.

  74. 74.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 10:30 am

    @Chyron HR: Evidently, it’s the way to de-legitimize a legitimate complaint against Perry.

  75. 75.

    cleek

    October 4, 2011 at 10:34 am

    @WereBear:
    no way. he’s busy making commercials telling seniors how awesome “government backed” reverse mortgages can be.

  76. 76.

    Samara Morgan

    October 4, 2011 at 10:36 am

    @Amir Khalid: more credible than the rest of the Insane Clown Posse of potential candidates.
    And not FAT or a mormon or a black republican.

  77. 77.

    kd bart

    October 4, 2011 at 10:38 am

    The Republicans are getting to the point where they’re going to have to take their cousin to the Presidential nomination.

  78. 78.

    harlana

    October 4, 2011 at 10:39 am

    @jwest: Democratic please and thank you

  79. 79.

    Big Baby DougJ

    October 4, 2011 at 10:40 am

    I think this is right on, Cain takes a beating from this for sure. I think it hurts Perry somewhat too.

  80. 80.

    Culture of Truth

    October 4, 2011 at 10:44 am

    @Big Baby DougJ: This may hurt Perry. The word “head” is pretty offensive.

  81. 81.

    NonyNony

    October 4, 2011 at 10:44 am

    @harlana:

    @jwest: Democratic please and thank you

    jwest is a troll. He sounds reasonable in this thread because even trolls have to admit that the Republican bench sucks.

  82. 82.

    PeakVT

    October 4, 2011 at 10:51 am

    @jwest: Nobody here believes Obama will be the Democrat nominee because everybody here knows there is no Democrat Party.

    Asshat.

  83. 83.

    burnspbesq

    October 4, 2011 at 10:51 am

    @Moonbatting Average:

    Republicans care about crony capitalism. They love it! They’re certainly not going after Obama because they have a passion for good governance.

  84. 84.

    dmsilev

    October 4, 2011 at 10:54 am

    @jwest:

    How many people here still believe Obama will be the Democrat nominee?

    One brief moment of rationality, and then it’s back to gibbering madness.

  85. 85.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 10:54 am

    @Samara Morgan:

    I use the Kerry plus one state formula: A Democratic Presidential candidate only has to carry all the states Kerry won, plus one more.

  86. 86.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 10:55 am

    @WereBear:

    Rudy!

  87. 87.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 10:57 am

    @jwest:

    How many people here still believe Obama will be the Democrat nominee?

    That, folks, is a tell. jwest is an obvious troll…

  88. 88.

    NobodySpecial

    October 4, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I’m looking at these Herman Cain ads on the blog.

    Did anyone not tell him Republicans do not react well to images of black people and torches and talk of ‘igniting’ things?

    EDIT – plus the whole ‘Fire It Up!’ thing. Who’s his running mate, Bobby Brown?

  89. 89.

    RossInDetroit

    October 4, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Nobody seems to have noted the most likely reason that the Perrys didn’t change the N-head rock sooner. The obvious alternative Blackhead has such unpleasant associations for civilized white people.

  90. 90.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 4, 2011 at 11:15 am

    I still think that the party elite want Mitt to be the nominee. Case in point, see Bobo’s fluffing of Mitt in his NYT column this morning.

  91. 91.

    amk

    October 4, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Even third rate summer movies have a longer run than these pathetic punks.

  92. 92.

    some guy

    October 4, 2011 at 11:17 am

    for those paying attention, Bill McKibben gets an Op-Ed in today’s Pravda, exposing the chummy relationship between TarSands Pipeline lobbyists and the State Dept. it seems like only yesterday when McKibben was getting the BJ Center Right Two Minute Fight Club routine.

    yowza.

    sorry for this brief interruption, I just found it amusing.

  93. 93.

    Felinious Wench

    October 4, 2011 at 11:17 am

    @keith G:

    Texans saw this coming a long way off.

    Only Molly can accurately sum up what the wingers should have known…

    “Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention.”
    ~ Molly Ivins

  94. 94.

    piratedan

    October 4, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Can we stop with juvenile attacks on Christie’s weight please?

    I’m not incredibly fond of him myself, but it’s because he’s arrogant in how he deals with his opponents and is prone to cherrypick his facts when talking to the press. He’s a proto-typical Republican politician, who looks backwards instead of forwards, taking accolades for others accomplishments and as myopic to serving the needs of his constituents as any other Republican governor.

    I thought this/our side of the argument didn’t require fat jokes in order to make your point by having to fall back on the “lowest common denominator” pie throwing tactics, The other side does enough of that crap, why do we need to do it too?

  95. 95.

    jwest

    October 4, 2011 at 11:18 am

    The question about who will be running for the Democrats is a legitimate one.

    Every indicator (right track/wrong track, consumer confidence, deserves reelection, personal approval, etc.) shows that Obama will lose in a landslide. Along with the presidency, democrats know that Obama will drag the entire ticket down more in a year that they already face a devastating defeat.

    The only hope to minimize the carnage would be for the left to run someone who could offer “hope and change”. Obama himself might decide (with the encouragement of the party) not to run in order to “spend more time with his family”. Why would someone with Obama’s ego want to suffer a humiliating defeat, supplanting Jimmy Carter as the worst president ever?

    With the democrat’s history of dumping sure losers at the last minute, Obama looks to be prime candidate to be tossed under the bus.

  96. 96.

    William Hurley

    October 4, 2011 at 11:19 am

    I find the press’s use of the word “mistakes” to describe Rick Perry’s campaigning to be deeply deceptive.

    Perry’s mistakes aren’t mistakes in any sense of the word. Perry’s actions – past and present – are in concord with his behavior and demeanor in whole. Comparing the most recent revelation of a Perry “mistake” to former Sen Allen’s “macaca” moment provides, to my mind, valuable instruction.

    Allen, you may remember, was a notorious racist with an affection for the Confederate flag, nooses and for “haranguing” African-Americans and other minorities. The policies he advocated embodied the same “spirit” as his actions. All of these details – and more – were not only well-known within and beyond the campaign bubble, but it was the fact of these attributes that provided Allen with his right-wing bona fides. As such, Allen’s “macaca” moment wasn’t a “mistake” as one familiar with a dictionary would understand it, it was a genuine expression of his radical, racist disposition.

    So too with Perry. The rock now dragging him down is affixed not to his campaign skills, but to the content of his character. The fact is that there’s no mistake here – period! To describe it as such is to perpetuate a lie, misinform the general public and – at its most sinister – abets institutionalized racism.

  97. 97.

    Chris

    October 4, 2011 at 11:19 am

    @NobodySpecial:

    Apparently, no one told him that Republicans don’t react well to “the race card” being “played” against a Texas good old boy in the middle of one of their primaries, either. Sloppy work all around…

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I still think that the party elite want Mitt to be the nominee. Case in point, see Bobo’s fluffing of Mitt in his NYT column this morning.

    I agree, he’s their man through and through. They could probably work out ways to live with someone else if that someone won the primary, but Romney’s who they’re rooting for now.

  98. 98.

    some guy

    October 4, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Save some campaign money for Samsung cause this dude is toast

    CoT, heh indeedy.

  99. 99.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 4, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Perry is tumbling in the polls, not because of his debate performances but because of his relatively sane stances on immigration and the HPV vaccine.

  100. 100.

    some guy

    October 4, 2011 at 11:22 am

    @jwest:

    wow, that’s a pretty good summary of how Rightwing idiots think. thanks, jwest, for illustrating so clearly why normal people laugh their asses off at wingnut trolls.

  101. 101.

    Felinious Wench

    October 4, 2011 at 11:22 am

    @jwest:

    The question about who will be running for the Democrats is a legitimate one.

    Obama

    I’d call the question dead stump stupid.

  102. 102.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    October 4, 2011 at 11:24 am

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Also why rank and file Republicans are holding out for a potential not-Romney. Romney, in the past, was not totally bat-shit crazy.

  103. 103.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 4, 2011 at 11:25 am

    @Chris: Mitt’s constituency is the Village. They can see themselves hobnobbing with Mitt, he is their kind of people, will fit in well at their cocktail parties. They seem to be quite comfortable with nepotism.

  104. 104.

    Chyron HR

    October 4, 2011 at 11:25 am

    @jwest:

    The 2012 Republican nominee will be Palin. The Democrat nominee will not be Obama.

    Bookmark it, libs. You will wonder how he was able to call this.

  105. 105.

    kMc

    October 4, 2011 at 11:28 am

    http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/2011/10/it-only-took-few-hours-folks-herman.html

    Real talk.

  106. 106.

    Culture of Truth

    October 4, 2011 at 11:33 am

    I’m actually not 100% convinced Perry is toast, although I’ve said for a long time it would be Romney, so I might as well stick with it.

  107. 107.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Someone’s dishing on Christie’s imminent announcement, saying he’ll insist he’s not running. He may be an insufferable asshole, but he’s not stupid.

  108. 108.

    Nevgu

    October 4, 2011 at 11:38 am

    What is with these subversive Republican fluffing blog posts lately? Guess Cole is letting in more trash to do his dirty work for him.

    Let me summarize this blog post “I’m not saying that Perry makes me blow spunk all over the walls but you gotta admit he’s quite the dreamboat with that hair of his”

    Too funny. Stay…urrrum..classy?…..BJ.

  109. 109.

    David in NY

    October 4, 2011 at 11:44 am

    @harlana: @jwest:

    Democrat nominee

    Yup. There’s a tell. Our friend jwest is not a Democrat. Probably never has been. Or he wouldn’t talk like that.

    “Democrat” Party, indeed. Feh.

    Ed: I’m not alone in noting this, I see.

  110. 110.

    JGabriel

    October 4, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Zandar:

    … as soon as Chris Christie makes his announcement and becomes the next Shiny New Thing.

    Christie To Announce He’s Not Running (NY Times)

    .

  111. 111.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    October 4, 2011 at 11:51 am

    @Nevgu: What is it with Cole letting trolls in who can’t read?

  112. 112.

    EconWatcher

    October 4, 2011 at 11:53 am

    @David in NY:

    I’m not sure jwest has ever tried to suggest he is or was a Democrat. I think he’s an “out and proud” wingnut troll, IIRC.

  113. 113.

    harlana

    October 4, 2011 at 11:59 am

    @David in NY: they’ve never been too good at the whole subtlety thing

  114. 114.

    WeeBey

    October 4, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    @jwest:

    This is the stupidest thing anyone will read today, save for people who are reading Ayn Rand’s fiction.

    Congratulations.

  115. 115.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 4, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    @jwest:

    The cretinous stupid and delusion is strong with this one.

    If the GOP had even ONE credible candidate in the race, Obama might be in trouble.

  116. 116.

    eemom

    October 4, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    I can’t stand it anymore. Where can I get a bus to another planet?

  117. 117.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 4, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    @Amir Khalid: #47

    The hunting lodge:

    I found the name of the place offensive and I’m not even black. I thought Cain handled the issue with dignity, going for “insensitivity” instead of outright racism.

    And what does this tell us about Rush [that we didn’t already know?]

  118. 118.

    harlana

    October 4, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    it appears Romney governed like a Dem – how, ultimately, is he going to distance himself from that in the primary? it will be an interesting and entertaining dance to watch. if he wins the primary, how, in the GE, will he distance himself from his previous distancing-of-himself from his Dem-like record?

  119. 119.

    EconWatcher

    October 4, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Unfortunately, I’m not sure a credible candidate will be required. Europe appears set to tank us all.

  120. 120.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    October 4, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    @eemom:

    Sorry, but the inter-planetary bus is in the shop for repairs right now. The shocks, struts and undercarriage all needed a complete overhaul after taking damage from throwing the Base under it too many times.

  121. 121.

    rikryah

    October 4, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    I still can never get past that once Good Hair opens his mouth, I get flashbacks of Josh Brolin in W.

  122. 122.

    harlana

    October 4, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: lol, i still have the tire marks on my back!

  123. 123.

    Ash Can

    October 4, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    @EconWatcher: I’m still not convinced he’s not a spoof. When he gets going, his stuff is so incredibly, over-the-top brain-dead stupid that I start envisioning a deliberate effort to pull up every RW talking point and hold them up for ridicule.

  124. 124.

    Citizen_X

    October 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    @jwest:

    Obama will lose in a landslide

    So that’s why the Republican candidates keep tripping over themselves: they’re all so excited about going up against Obama! Beating him’s going to be so easy!

  125. 125.

    Svensker

    October 4, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    @Ash Can:

    Two words: DougJ

  126. 126.

    HalfEmpty

    October 5, 2011 at 1:56 am

    @MattF: And it fits on a bumper sticker and rhymes! Or close enough.

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