Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Bark louder, little dog.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

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Tuesday Morning Open Thread & OWS/Together Roundup

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The image above is one of 75 at NYMag‘s Daily Intel slideshow, Thirty Days of Occupy Wall Street. Noreen Malone at the Daily Intel reports that “More Than 70 Percent of New Yorkers Are Okay With Occupy Wall Street“:

That’s the key takeaway from a Quinnipiac poll released today: 72 percent of city residents said that as long as the protesters continue to follow the law, they should be allowed to remain in Zuccotti Park indefinitely. That also tracks fairly closely, by the way, with the 73 percent of New Yorkers who support stricter regulations for financial firms. 61 percent of New Yorkers (including a majority of Republicans) support the extension of the state’s “millionaire tax.”…

As part of its extensive coverage, the Guardian has an excellent single-shot summary of “a global howl of protest“.

The self-proclaimed One Percenters have always seemed a little cartoonish, but Chris Sims at Comics Alliance collects the views of actual comic-book Richie Riches… including, of course, RR. Also for conniseurs of the comically two-dimensional, Charles Johnson at LGF unearths (or should that be “unprivies”?) Pajama Media’s diseased conception that OWS is using a “neo-swastika power symbol“, aka, a twitter hashtag.

And now there is OccupyWriters, which musters among its ranks quite a few of the Great & Good that you’d expect (Margaret Atwood, Alison Bechdel, Noam Chomsky, Samuel R. Delany, Barbara Ehrenreich… ) and some that you might not (Lemony Snicket).
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Occupy Wall Street from David Sauvage on Vimeo.

(via Dave Weigel at Slate)

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  1. 1.

    R-Jud

    I also see Naomi Klein and Dahlia Lithwick on the Occupy Writers list. Also, some dude named Salman Rushdie– ha! Named after a fish.

  2. 2.

    arguingwithsignposts

    Hey, Balloon Juice commenter Betsy gets a response from Bill Keller on his blog (apparently his snide comments drew lots of ire).
    Sadly, his response leaves much to be desired as well:

    But briefly: just because my attitude toward the protests is not reverential, don’t mistake it for contempt. I agree that the Occupiers have served a useful service in drawing attention to economic inequality, a corresponding imbalance of power and a failure of accountability on the part of major institutions, including our government. Nor do I fault them for not having a clear, ten-point plan for setting things right. That’s not the job of protest. But it is fair to ask: Now what? What actual consequences flow from this?

    (picked up and brought here from a thread last night)

  5. 5.

    marv

    I’d like to see an Occupy the World Series. I was a member of the MLBPA in the 70’s (played two whole months in the big leagues) and the unanimity of the Union behind Marvin Miller was something to see, but it devolved into one simple goal of maximal salaries. Now as Public Enemy No. 1, at least in my state (a public school teacher), I’d just like to say 10 million a year to play ball is obscene. Athletes with entourages? Please.

  7. 7.

    Joseph Nobles

    WHOOOOOOO! C-SPAN is talking Occupy Wall Street today with Jonah Goldberg! He’s on at 7:45 a.m. Eastern. Don’t you want to tune in and find out what Jonah’s saying about #OWS? WHOOOOOOOOO!

  10. 10.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Joseph Nobles: I am amazed at the shitty quality of some C-SPAN programming. Hopefully it’s a call-in show and someone will ask Jonah how it feels to be a legacy hire who hasn’t produced anything of lasting value.

  11. 11.

    Keith

    Pajama Media’s diseased conception that OWS is using a “neo-swastika power symbol“, aka, a twitter hashtag.

    The legacy of “terrorist fist-bump” lives on.

  12. 12.

    Southern Beale

    Here’s some interesting news. Sugar Land, TX, Tea Party group invited Pamela Gellar to speak at their conference at the Hyatt. The Sugar Land Democrats Club organized a protest of her appearance. Within 2 hour of issuing the press release about their protest, came this news:

    Alert/Alert – The General Manager of the Hyatt Place Hotel in Sugar Land, Texas called me at 10:30am Monday, Oct 17th and informed me that the Hyatt Place Hotel has canceled the Sugar Land Tea Party event with Ms. Pamela Geller as speaker and they have informed the Sugar Land Tea Party. On behalf of the leadership of the Sugar Land Democrat Club and the Fort Bend County Democratic Party and all citizens of Sugar Land Fort Bend County who respect and believe in diversity I wish to thank the Hyatt Place Hotel of Sugar Land for canceling this event. We will not hold our protest outside the Hyatt Place Hotel. Please stay tuned for further announcements later today.

    Naturally, the event wasn’t cancelled, just moved to some community center. I wonder if it’s a PUBLIC community center? You know … owned by the PEOPLE? Where the “free hand of the market” can’t suppress their hate speech, er, free speech? Now that would be ironic.

  13. 13.

    Joseph Nobles

    @harlana: Maybe he’s got a book out soon? I don’t know how he got picked. Richard Trumka follows him at 8:30 Eastern to talk about labor and 2012.

    @arguingwithsignposts: Oh, yeah, this one promises to be a winner winner.

  14. 14.

    arguingwithsignposts

    Curse you Joseph Nobles!

    Jonah: People like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are far more to blame (for the economic crisis) than Wall Street.

  15. 15.

    harlana

    i have a sneaky feeling Goldberg is gonna have his ass handed to him by callers over and over and over again

    he also just basically said Eugene Robinson is full of shit

  16. 16.

    Joseph Nobles

    Five minutes in and I already want to stab my eyes out.

    Also: Combs have better sense than to approach this person.

  18. 18.

    arguingwithsignposts

    First caller: The Tea Part and OWS are going to come together and support Ron Paul. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Jonah: I would love to see libertarianism coopt the left.

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

    ETA: I had to stop listening to that smug bastard. Ugh.

  23. 23.

    nancydarling

    @arguingwithsignposts: Basically Jonah said that one third of the occupiers range from pink to full on red. He criticized the people like Pivens who have gone to Liberty Square as socialists or comm-symps.

    No one asked that question we all would have loved. He also complained that the MSM characterized tea partiers as knuckle dragging troglodytes and have been overly generous with the DFHs.

    I could go on, but y’all get the picture

  25. 25.

    nancydarling

    @arguingwithsignposts: Basically Jonah said that one third of the occupiers range from pink to full on red. He criticized the people like Pivens who have gone to Liberty Square as soshulists or comm-symps.

    No one asked that question we all would have loved. He also complained that the MSM characterized tea partiers as knuckle dragging troglodytes and have been overly generous with the DFHs.

    I could go on, but y’all get the picture

  26. 26.

    Sapheriel

    with the 73 percent of New Yorkers who support stricter regulations for financial firms

    there’s that number again. 27%.

  27. 27.

    xian

    well, fwiw, I signed the occupy writers petition (and cited one of my books, The Power of Many, that loosely anticipated some of this leaderless organizing we see with #ows)

  28. 28.

    handsmile

    Following a month in which the three major New York City metropolitan newspapers repeatedly dismissed, distorted, and demonized the “Occupy Wall Street” protest, it is both remarkable and auspicious that 72% of New Yorkers hold a favorable view of the protest and its broad objectives of economic justice.

    It is yet another paragraph in the chronicle of how traditional news organizations have become increasingly remote to and unrepresentative of the daily lives and true interests of their now-declining readership.

    It was once said that newspapers were good for nothing more than wrapping fish. Today more and more people seem to realize that the stench and oiliness arises from the paper itself.

    Re the New York Magazine “Daily Intel” article that Anne Laurie links to above: in a four-paragraph story, three deal with the finding that lower income residents are less likely to support the OWS protest.

    By way of explanation, the article’s author, Noreen Malone, offers up the hackneyed tropes of “limousine liberals” and the privileged lives of middle-class kids. She also pulls from thin air this fatuous claim: that unions supporting the protest represent “a bloc that can be alienating to outsiders who might be competing for the same jobs (only without union support).”

    Even here, in an article headlined “More than 70 Percent of New Yorkers Are Okay with Occupy Wall Street Protest” does one find egregious examples of journalistic malpractice.

  29. 29.

    Doug

    The Snicket bit is great, and is being mirrored by Neil (6 zillion blog readers/Twitter followers) Gaiman. Among its 13 ways of looking at OWS, it includes:

    2. “Fortune” is a word for having a lot of money and for having a lot of luck, but that does not mean the word has two definitions.

    11. Historically, a story about people inside impressive buildings ignoring or even taunting people standing outside shouting at them turns out to be a story with an unhappy ending.

  31. 31.

    piratedan

    mentioned in a previous thread. OWS:Tucson, police are issuing citations to protesters for trespassing in public parks for being in said parks past closing. Attempting to move the protesters via financial concerns (up to 1k fine) and with the old “blot on your permanent record” tactic… OWS is reaching out to legal counsel to determine if local law is being twisted to fit situation etc etc etc… at least its not riot gear and swat teams

  32. 32.

    Cris (without an H)

    I’m a little bit disturbed by the rumor that Christopher Nolan is planning to use OWS in his next film:

    the Los Angeles Times reports that Christopher Nolan may film parts of ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ in downtown New York with the protests as a backdrop.
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    […]the Times reports that the Occupy Wall Street protests won’t be written into the film; instead, it’s likely there is an existing scene of civil unrest in the script, and Nolan will use the throng of protestors to his advantage.

    Planning to get a Personal Release from all those folks, Chris?

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