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Tuesday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  October 25, 20118:48 pm| 154 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Tlachtga

    October 25, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    A manhattan–neat.

  2. 2.

    gogol's wife

    October 25, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    We just bailed on “55 Days at Peking,” so I guess it’s reading the NYTimes for the rest of the evening and hoping it doesn’t make me angry.

  3. 3.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 25, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    reading the NYTimes for the rest of the evening and hoping it doesn’t make me angry.

    good luck with that one.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    We just bailed on “55 Days at Peking,” so I guess it’s reading the NYTimes for the rest of the evening and hoping it doesn’t make me angry.

    That’s like saying I’m going to slam the car door on my hand and hope it doesn’t hurt.

  5. 5.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 25, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Laughing my ass off at Rick Perry’s bizarre mental gymnastics on the entire birth certificate non-issue.

    That and Herman Cain’s bouncing back and forth between the pro-choice and the “death to the sluts!” positions on abortion.

  6. 6.

    gogol's wife

    October 25, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I’ve already written to them once today. Michiko Kakutani said that Dostoevsky met Dickens. That’s news to me. I can’t find any evidence of that, even in Joseph Frank’s 5-volume biography.

  7. 7.

    jeffreyw

    October 25, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Homer explains to Bitsy, his new sparring partner, the “no biting below the belt” rule. Again.

  8. 8.

    RossInDetroit

    October 25, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    I prepped 4 John Deere garden tractors for the winter and have 5 more to go.
    I’d like to thank the fine people at Deere and the Kawasaki engine designers who make the things so easy to work on.
    My boss thinks they take all day, so I can loaf and read political blogs and still turn out my quota.

  9. 9.

    RossInDetroit

    October 25, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    reading the NYTimes for the rest of the evening and hoping it doesn’t make me angry.

    Brooks isn’t particularly angrifying today. Just totally wrong, as usual.

  10. 10.

    jo6pac

    October 25, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Sorry but the post you did early I won’t be voting the lesser of 2 evils. I just can’t do it any more. I have dinner on the stove I’ll be back in a while

  11. 11.

    gogol's wife

    October 25, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    Great action shot!

  12. 12.

    JGabriel

    October 25, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    John Cole:

    What’s your pleasure?

    A Bordeaux for me, thanks.

    .

  13. 13.

    amk

    October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    “BP, we apologize. Just imagine your profit if that kenyan muslin soshalist fascist hadn’t mugged you.”

  14. 14.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’ve been thinking, watching him stumble around, how Molly Ivins used to say that George W Bush is not mean, and he’s not stupid. I used to think, he’ll do till mean and stupid comes along. Now I get it, Miss Molly was comparing Dumbya to this spectacular halfwit.

  15. 15.

    Starfish

    October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @jo6pac: Why settle for the LESSER of two evils? Am I right?

  16. 16.

    beltane

    October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Pat Robertson is now condemning the GOP for being too extreme http://wonkette.com/455205/right-wing-extremist-pat-robertson-calls-for-less-extremism-in-gop Does this mean we have reached Peak Wingnut?

  17. 17.

    lamh34

    October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Watching the first live performances on X-factor. Maybe it’s cause I never caught on to American Idol, but I have watched this show since the beginning, so I’m drawn in…damnit.

  18. 18.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    October 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    @jeffreyw: Kittehs!!

  19. 19.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    The ball went through Bill Buckner’s legs 25 years ago today. Theo Epstein went to the Cubs today. Coincidence?

  20. 20.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 25, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The stupid and mean benches are both very deep in Texas.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Does this mean we have reached Peak Wingnut?

    You know there is no such thing, don’t you?

  22. 22.

    jeffreyw

    October 25, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Tacos

  23. 23.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 25, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Heh. Rachel’s tag for a story on Romney: “Who ordered the flounder?”

    d’oh. On Perry, not Romney

  24. 24.

    jwb

    October 25, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    @jo6pac: You’re raising the odds that you’ll be living under the greater of two evils.

  25. 25.

    amk

    October 25, 2011 at 9:04 pm

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  26. 26.

    Nicole

    October 25, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Arguing with some strangers online who are insisting to me that Ayn Rand is not a GOP icon; that really, only a few individuals no one’s heard of claim to like her. That was after trying out, “it’s not the GOP; it’s the Tea Party that likes her!”

    Oh wait… you said what’s your pleasure… my pleasure would be not to be doing that. But you know, someone’s wrong on the internet…

  27. 27.

    amk

    October 25, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    phew, didn’t think that would stick.

  28. 28.

    NR

    October 25, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    So, about Obama’s jobs bill….

    President Obama supports passage of House GOP legislation that would eliminate a tax compliance rule affecting big government contractors and pay for it by limiting Medicaid eligibility, the White House announced Tuesday.

    Some of us predicted that this would happen as soon as the White House said they would accept pieces of the bill passed individually. But here it is for those who doubted.

  29. 29.

    MikeJ

    October 25, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    @Tlachtga:

    A manhattan—neat.

    Since it’s after labour day I’d normally have the same, but in honour of the sunny day, I went with (gasp) clear liquor: a martini.

    Seattle weather will have me back to Manhattans tomorrow, I’m sure.

  30. 30.

    beltane

    October 25, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    @Baud: One can always hope. But I do believe we have reached the point where they are no longer even pretending to take themselves or anything else very seriously. Our whole country is starting to resemble the WWF.

    And what’s going on with Europe? I think we’re do for another spectacular f@ck up over there.

  31. 31.

    jwb

    October 25, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes, and Molly also said that she’d voted for candidates so bad that they’d made her teeth hurt, simply because they were better than the alternative. When you live in Texas, the lesser evil is often the best you ever get.

  32. 32.

    John Weiss

    October 25, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    @beltane: No, I don’t think that the wingnut has peaked. Fasten your crash harness.

  33. 33.

    MikeJ

    October 25, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    @beltane:

    Our whole country is starting to resemble the WWF.

    I think you mean the WWE. If our country was starting to look like the WWF we’d be knitting sweaters for penguins.

  34. 34.

    David Koch

    October 25, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Sorry but the post you did early I won’t be voting the lesser of 2 evils.

    I always vote for the most evil.

  35. 35.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    @NR:

    First comment under the article:

    TPM’s reporting is off-base. The White House (WH) hasn’t done anything here, except say that they agree that a provision that was present in the original American Jobs Act should be passed, and a provision that will help determine how subsidies and cost-sharing reductions for the healthcare exchanges will be restructured.
    With regard to the 3% withholding on vendors, the WH statement says:
    “The Administration would be willing to work with the Congress to identify acceptable offsets for the budgetary costs associated with the repeal, which could include but are not limited to ones that are in the President’s detailed blueprint outlined to the Congress on September 19, 2011.”

    Another comment:

    Nice job, TPM, you created the perfect headline to draw out the firebaggers and concern trolls tonight. Fabulous!

    We’re acting like right-wing media – treating reporters’ speculation as fact and then spreading that speculation as truth.

  36. 36.

    JGabriel

    October 25, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    @beltane:

    Does this mean we have reached Peak Wingnut?

    There is no Peak Wingnut, there is only The Wingularity and it is Nigh.

    .

  37. 37.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    October 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    West Virginia to the Big-12? Whose damn fool idea was that? So now the Moutaineers become beat downs for Texas and Oklahoma, maybe show-up in B-Ball against Kansas. Of course any Missouri Tiger fans, prepare for years of major A##-kicking by the likes of Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, for starters. WVU you should of joined the ACC, and still play Pitt in the Backyard Brawl, oh the humanity.

  38. 38.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Gotta recommend this awesome video someone sent me this afternoon: Splitscreen: A Love Story. Shot entirely on cell-phone cameras. Really cool.

    Posted this on the earlier “open” thread, but after I read the comments I was amazed to see that everyone actually stayed on the nominal topic of gun control, so I felt like a threadjacking douche. My apologies.

    But this is a great little film. Seriously.

    ETA: I went to Bed, Bath & Beyond today, which I do about once a year, and I was exhausted afterwards. How do “serious shoppers” do it? Sensory overload plus “Who the hell needs this stuff?–ooh, I do!” Managed to escape with (mostly) only the stuff I needed.

  39. 39.

    Mark K

    October 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Please tell me you all saw this about the Birther/Oathkeeper who was convicted today for bringing an automatice weapon to a Tennessee courthourse to make citizens arrest/terrorize etc. First look at his picture in his pickup:
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/birther_oathkeeper_convicted_of_attempted_courthou.php?ref=fpb

    now, check out what was on his person at arrest: Pink dildos, KY, and Tranny porn! :

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/65129152/U-S-A-v-DARREN-HUFF-115-3-Exhibit-3-6-11-2010-Receipt-for-Returned-Property-Gov-uscourts-tned-57618-115-3

  40. 40.

    John Weiss

    October 25, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    My pleasure this evening is a lot of things: I’m going to drink some Meyer’s rum, neat. I’m going to have capillini with butter-sauted mushrooms, grey shallots and tomatoes. I get to spend another evening with my lovely spouse. Damned near perfect.

  41. 41.

    Kola Noscopy

    October 25, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Back in the day: Wine enemas. Preferably a nice Savignon Blanc.

  42. 42.

    OzoneR

    October 25, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    @NR:

    Some of us predicted that this would happen as soon as the White House said they would accept pieces of the bill passed individually. But here it is for those who doubted.

    Like a mouse to peanut butter.

  43. 43.

    soonergrunt

    October 25, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    I had hernia surgery today. My pleasure is Lortab and a bag of ice.

  44. 44.

    beltane

    October 25, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    @MikeJ: That’s right, my son said it’s no longer the World Wrestling Federation. Maybe the should just change it to the GOP and be done with it.

    @NR: I realize that killing poor people on the altar of Ayn Rand is America’s One True Religion but I don’t see how it will create jobs. Our country is literally cracking under the weight of its greedy rich people and cutting more people off of Medicaid just adds to the load.

  45. 45.

    OzoneR

    October 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    @NR:

    So, about Obama’s jobs bill….

    you mean the one Obama spent the better part of the last two months fighting for, only to go down in a defeat at the hands of all Republicans and a few Democrats, and liberals didn’t even bother to give him credit for even though they spend the last three claiming they would “if he just fought”

    you mean that jobs bill?

  46. 46.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    More Obama evildoing:

    President Obama will announce new programs Wednesday to lower monthly loan payments for some students graduating next year and thereafter and to let borrowers who have a mix of direct federal loans and loans under the old Federal Family Education Loan Program consolidate them at a slightly lower interest rate.

  47. 47.

    soonergrunt

    October 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    @Mark K: and he’s really upset that the government considers him a terrorist.

  48. 48.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    @Baud:

    H8ers gotta h8. NR is the 2nd most reliable h8er here.

  49. 49.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    October 25, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    @beltane:

    hardly, this is just like starfucks complaining about all the interloping coffee shops, roasters, and upscale whatnots, horning in on a space they feel they created. while starfucks may have popularized a faux epicurian sensibilty for previously commoditized coffee, pat robertson expanded the wingnut brand to a wider consumer base, but he was hardly the only one doing it. ever.

    and congrats to the blog host on wvu joining the big 12-10 whatever they want to call it

  50. 50.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 25, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    @Baud: Josh Marshall? Trolling for hits with a sensational headline? P-shaw! Next you’ll be saying that about Arianna Huffington! Or Salon! For shaaaaaaaame.

  51. 51.

    amk

    October 25, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    @Baud: One difference between teabaggers and firebaggers – the former are not electoral eunuchs.

  52. 52.

    beltane

    October 25, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    @Mark K: You forgot the best part. It was a remote control pink dildo, something no self-respecting teabagger can be without.

  53. 53.

    slag

    October 25, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    @beltane:

    Our whole country is starting to resemble the WWF.

    Starting to? I don’t know if you remember the Jerry Springer Show, but every time I hear there’s another Republican debate, I immediately imagine the whole audience shouting PER-RY PER-RY!

  54. 54.

    Rommie

    October 25, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee: I know, and WV couldn’t handle the Big East. The Big 12 could make them an 8-win team at best. Not that they aren’t already…

    @Baud: yeah, since that directly impacts me, that Near guy just bought my vote he was going to get anyway :)

  55. 55.

    NR

    October 25, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    @Baud:

    We’re acting like right-wing media – treating reporters’ speculation as fact and then spreading that speculation as truth.

    It’s not reporter speculation. The White House announced that they are supporting the bill. A bill that gives a tax break to government contractors, and pays for that tax break by kicking some seniors off of Medicaid. That’s really all there is to this.

  56. 56.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    @Mark K:

    Who could’ve predicted that a teatard nut job with a big truck and a gun fetish… oh fuck it all. It’s all just so predictable.

  57. 57.

    different-church-lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    My pleasure? John Lackey will not throw another baseball for the Boston Red Sox before 2013.

  58. 58.

    cathyx

    October 25, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    <blockquoteWhat is your pleasure?

    Well, isn’t that a loaded question. If I could pick anything in the world to be doing right now, it would be sitting in my house drinking wine with friends. But instead, I’m sitting in my dining room on my computer answering what I would rather be doing than this.

  59. 59.

    soonergrunt

    October 25, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    @Cat Lady: Who could’ve predicted? Pretty much EVERYBODY.

  60. 60.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    We like Bleak House so much we started Little Dorrit tonight.

  61. 61.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Hey! Wasn’t my fault. It was the saddest day of my life until my father died. I can look upon that week with some equanimity only now. YMMV.

  62. 62.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    @soonergrunt: Beats a drill in the arm – at least this will make you better.

    Heal up well, man. And don’t skimp on the drugs and ice, and when the drugs run out, don’t skimp on the scotch and ice.

  63. 63.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Minimum wage in China raised by 22%. Good for the Chinese, hopefully good for American workers too.

  64. 64.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 25, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    Oh, Bitsy’s growing! Soooo big!

  65. 65.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    @NR:

    That’s really all there is to this.

    Look, come back to me when Obama signs it into law as is. My guess is that a House passed bill provides a good vehicle for Senate Dems to beat back GOP obstructionism.

  66. 66.

    OzoneR

    October 25, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    @NR:

    The White House announced that they are supporting the bill. A bill that gives a tax break to government contractors, and pays for that tax break by kicking some seniors off of Medicaid. That’s really all there is to this.

    No, that’s not really all there is to this. The White House did not endorse kicking seniors off Medicaid, they endorsed giving tax breaks to government contractors and finding a way to pay for it, they didn’t endorse THAT way. It’s not reporter speculation, it’s shoddy reporting.

    “The Administration would be willing to work with the Congress to identify acceptable offsets for the budgetary costs associated with the repeal, which could include but are not limited to ones that are in the President’s detailed blueprint outlined to the Congress on September 19, 2011.“

    They are not endorsing kicking seniors off Medicaid, which would be hard considering seniors are on MedicARE, not MedicAID.

    At least get the names of government programs you claim to be defending right.

  67. 67.

    RedKitten

    October 25, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    My pleasure will be a nice hot cup of tea and my bed. I keep telling myself that I’m going to start to go to bed earlier, and every night, find myself up until midnight. And then of course, at 6am, I feel (and look) like re-heated hell.

    New SamKitten pictures at my URL, by the way. The little guy just started speech therapy. No major problems, so don’t fret. He’s just the strong, silent type, and hasn’t yet strung two words together (which he really SHOULD be doing at age 2). He’s sleeping peacefully right now in his little brown footie pajamas with monsters on them, and when I went up to check on him, I couldn’t get over how big he’s getting.

  68. 68.

    Southern Beale

    October 25, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Here is some awesomeness:

    A Nashville hotel has stood up to Islamophobes wanting to host their “anti-Sharia conference” and cancelled their contract. They had no idea what the “Preserving Freedom Conference” was about until people called to complain.

    And now of course the top Islamophobe — a Pamela Gellar acolyte — is claiming she’s being censored! Uh, no honey. It’s just the free hand of the market showing you the door. SUCK ON THIS.

  69. 69.

    Mark K

    October 25, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Thought that I was pretty hip but have never seen a “remote control dildo” before. Is that kinda like a predator drone for your colon?

  70. 70.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    @efgoldman: Espn did a great piece on it tonight. Billy Buck was awesome, I once saw him and Hernandez at Wrigley collide at first on a throw up the line and both of them were out cold for 10 minutes. Fucker could play and he was tough as nails. Anyone who didn’t get over it a week later never played the game.

  71. 71.

    different-church-lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    @efgoldman: God willing, but the new GM wasn’t talking like that would be the case.

    He has zero trade value and they can’t eat that much money without putting him on the mound. He’ll be back, maybe in the #5 slot.

  72. 72.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    October 25, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    @Martin: I believe that China severely restricts imports so if Wal-Mart and any other American companies decide to shut down the factories and tried import Vietnamese stuff into China, good luck with that, or is that inaccurate?

  73. 73.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    @Martin:

    Minimum wage in China raised by 22%.

    Looks like China’s on the road to socialism.

  74. 74.

    soonergrunt

    October 25, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    @Martin: this is true, but at least the drill in the arm is something I can do myself. I’m all about the DIY.

  75. 75.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    October 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Cheap Italian Red Wine and twitter snark. That’s what I get for being a liberal Orioles fan in 2011.

  76. 76.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    @soonergrunt: Hang in there bro.

  77. 77.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 25, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Little Dorrit is a sad story.

    Her father should have been slapped.

  78. 78.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Anyone who didn’t get over it a week later never played the game. was a lifelong genetically programmed Red Sox die hard fan.

    Fixeteth.

  79. 79.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 25, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    @soonergrunt: You could perform hernia surgery on yourself if you weren’t some kind of moocher.

    /teatard

    Get well soon

  80. 80.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    @Mark K: IM IN UR PUPRSHUTE LUKN 4R MOOSLIMS!

  81. 81.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    @amk:

    Cool.

    “Republicants” intentional? Haven’t heard that one.

  82. 82.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    @Cat Lady: I don’t even want to hear that shit. I’m a Cub fan.

  83. 83.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: We just started it, no spoilers please.

  84. 84.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 25, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @RedKitten:

    Don’t worry too much about the late talking. My daughter walked early and talked late. And then didn’t shut up for the next umpteen years. :-)

  85. 85.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    @soonergrunt:

    this is true, but at least the drill in the arm is something I can do myself. I’m all about the DIY.

    You’re in luck!

    A 63-year-old Glendale man was in stable condition after he attempted surgery on himself with a six-inch butter knife to remove a protruding hernia from his stomach, police said Tuesday.

  86. 86.

    El Cid

    October 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    @Mark K: I was kind of wondering why he felt it was necessary to bring that stuff with him. I guess he figured no one would be able to stop him after he citizens-arrested all those court officials and officers.

  87. 87.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    October 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    @Steeplejack: Or as Norman Goldman calls them, RepubliCONS.

  88. 88.

    4jkb4ia

    October 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    This Octave is the coolest thing. It has been written so that you do not have to write a single for loop, ever.

  89. 89.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    @Martin: He should have used a dull deer antler.

  90. 90.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    no spoilers please

    Okay. :-)

  91. 91.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @soonergrunt:

    Hope you feel better soon. My experience is that people consistently underestimate other people’s operations and recovery time/pain. Sort of like that NFL joke about a “minor” groin pull being one that happens to someone else.

    Shorter me: don’t feel like a wuss if people don’t seem to get it that you had a major procedure and you’re in pain. Take enough time to heal.

  92. 92.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    But this is a great little film. Seriously.

    Indeed it is. Getting so many parallel shots must have taken some serious coordination.

  93. 93.

    soonergrunt

    October 25, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): Thanks, Bro. I’ll be right as rain in a couple of days.

    @Steeplejack: I hear you. I originally scheduled two days off. Today and Wednesday. My boss was like “yeah, good luck with that one. Put in a separate request for Thursday and Friday just in case” and the surgeon was like ” two days? That’s pretty optimistic” but I was like “ah no. I’m hard. I can take it!”
    Not anymore. I feel like hammered shit, and I’m going to take the rest of the week.

  94. 94.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 25, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    @Martin: A fucking butter knife? The fuck?

  95. 95.

    YellowJournalism

    October 25, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    RedKitten: My youngest turned 2 in September. I’ve had to stop myself from crying a few times when I’m looking at him or cuddling with him. Packing up the clothes they outgrow can be agony, too.

    Good wishes on the little one’s speech therapy. When you address it early like this, things tend to work out well. We went through a few things with our little guy in his first year, so I know how worrying this can be.

  96. 96.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Well, Theo’s your man then. He’s going to take you to places you’ve never been. Mark my words.

  97. 97.

    Gravenstone

    October 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    @Cat Lady: To be fair, Epstein has been in the fold almost a week now, They weren’t allowed to formally announce until there was a travel day. Because the Selig, he is a jealous commissioner of the baseball and will brook no competing news on a game day.

  98. 98.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    @Steeplejack: I dunno, I had a “procedure” involving looking into my kidneys and everyone I knew and everything I read said it was the worst thing ever. It wasn’t that bad. I think people overestimate as much as the underestimate.

  99. 99.

    Paddy

    October 25, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Two of my bro’s dogs spooning. Too good not to share.

  100. 100.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    @Cat Lady: Yea, what’s his slugging percentage?

  101. 101.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    October 25, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    @efgoldman: I got it.

  102. 102.

    NR

    October 25, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    @Baud:

    Look, come back to me when Obama signs it into law as is. My guess is that a House passed bill provides a good vehicle for Senate Dems to beat back GOP obstructionism.

    So we’re reduced to hoping that Senate Democrats will block a bill that Obama supports?

    You realize that under this scenario, Obama is, at best, irrelevant to what happens in Washington, right?

  103. 103.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: We’re hardcore here in SoCal. Give us a half-caf soy latte, our purse dog and a butterknife, and we can do fucking anything.

  104. 104.

    Svensker

    October 25, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    @RedKitten:

    He’s sleeping peacefully right now in his little brown footie pajamas with monsters on them

    Oh. What a picture.

    The photos are wonderful and he is just a darling. The one with the blue denim overalls particularly slays me.

    Quiet squeeeee.

  105. 105.

    AA+ Bonds

    October 25, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    The fix is in for Cain with this headline from Fox News:

    Cain’s Campaign Releases Strange Web Video

    How long did it take them to switch their pitch on that story, five, six hours

  106. 106.

    jeffreyw

    October 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Party till the cows come home? Start picking up the beer cans.

  107. 107.

    madmommy

    October 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    @RedKitten: My little guy started speech therapy at 3-he had no words at all at that point. Just jibberish. We started with pictures of things on the fridge (milk, juice, apple) that he could point to, progressed to today (just turned 8) he will talk your ear off. He stammers a bit if he gets too excited, but otherwise is doing amazingly well. Everything was done through the state Child Search program, and his therapy was and is done at the local public school. The only way he’d have gotten the same level of attention and therapy in a private or charter school is if I’d have sold a kidney to pay for private therapy.

  108. 108.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    October 25, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    @soonergrunt: I wish you a speedy and uncomplicated recovery.

  109. 109.

    Nutella

    October 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    @4jkb4ia:

    Are you doing Stanford machine learning homework, too?

  110. 110.

    Baud

    October 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    @NR:

    So we’re reduced to hoping that Senate Democrats will block a bill that Obama supports?
    You realize that under this scenario, Obama is, at best, irrelevant to what happens in Washington, right?


    Sigh.
    You’re clearly living in a reality that I can’t grasp. Say hi to Herman Cain for me. Good night.

  111. 111.

    Martin

    October 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    @NR: And you realize that the GOP cherry picked the bill specifically to get the reaction out of the left that you’re providing and to turn the left against Obama.

    Way to carry their banner for Boehner.

  112. 112.

    different-church-lady

    October 25, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    @Baud: Good god, they’re up to 4 cents an hour?!?

  113. 113.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    October 25, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    @soonergrunt: I can’t say it much better than Martin:

    Heal up well, man. And don’t skimp on the drugs and ice, and when the drugs run out, don’t skimp on the scotch and ice.

    All the best for a speedy and thorough post op recovery.

    OT – The non profit I direct (heh) will be having a guided painting fundraiser in January 2012. The studio owner told me I could send painting ideas to her that they would paint in a fashion that they could guide folks through it. Anyone have any favorites that could be “copied” in such a fashion? The studio link, they are doing this off site for us to use a bigger room!

  114. 114.

    different-church-lady

    October 25, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    @efgoldman: I meant he’ll be back in 2013 (perhaps not at the start, as you said, but midway through). And the final year of this contract isn’t until ’14.

  115. 115.

    Cat Lady

    October 25, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Cubs just need serendipity. I think the baseball gods would smile on a Ryne Sandberg/Theo Epstein all in run at it for 2012. The world needs to end with a bang, not a whimper.

  116. 116.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 25, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Sad news. John McCarthy, first of MIT AI Lab and then of Stanford AI Lab, has died.

  117. 117.

    RedKitten

    October 25, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    @madmommy: Yeah, he has some words, and is learning more every week. So he’s getting there, but just needs a bit of a boost to be where he should be. The therapy is done via our local public health office, and our horrible, freedoms-killing soc1alist health care means that I don’t have to worry about paying for it.

  118. 118.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    .
    .

    What is your pleasure?

    I don’t see why you have to ask again, but have you seen my wife’s ass? I feel a SUPERCOKE! coming on strong. BRB
    .
    .

  119. 119.

    ctlr

    October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    My pleasure: Matt Taibbi’s latest blog post on OWS. Pure Awesome.

  120. 120.

    scav

    October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Pleasure? QI series I. Serious joy (they’re currently eating bugs and watching a shrimp on a treadmill).

    and SamKitten possibly sounds rather like my sister and cousin’s youngest. Neither talked for the longest time until all of sudden, bam. Complete sentences. It’s like they didn’t want to bother until they could do it perfectly. They knew exactly what it should sound like and they weren’t going to accept less or be embarrassed by second rate.

  121. 121.

    different-church-lady

    October 25, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @soonergrunt: So, what’s that like? Did they put you under?

  122. 122.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    October 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Tonight, its working on C++ time. Thinking about getting a haircut tomorrow. Such an exciting life.

  123. 123.

    NR

    October 25, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @Martin: The Republicans didn’t force Obama to support this bill. He chose to do that on his own.

  124. 124.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    Raven:

    Little Dorrit:

    The Daughter Unit informs me that I have confused Dickensian stories and the “sad story” I was thinking of was some other poor person.

    Now, of course, I wonder who it was. Hmmmmm.

  125. 125.

    eemom

    October 25, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    @RedKitten: @YellowJournalism:

    Mine are about to turn 13 and 17, respectively, and I still pine for the days of little footie pajamas, etc. : (

    I actually look forward to being a grandmother some day. How weird is that.

  126. 126.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    October 25, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    .
    .
    @NR:

    The Republicans didn’t force Obama to support this bill. He chose to do that on his own.

    Fortunately, working with Grover Norquist and Mitch McConnell on implementing the Republican agenda is President Obama’s strong suit.
    .
    .

  127. 127.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    If it was the father that needed slapping, it was probably The Old Curiosity Shop. That was on TV a while back, and it really hit home. Hard times, as only Dickens could do them.

  128. 128.

    Bago

    October 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    I’m thinking somewhere betwixt the shadow broker and the goddamned batman.

  129. 129.

    burnspbesq

    October 25, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Oh, I’m giggling like a crazy person at the idea that in the near future, WVU will be playing conference road games in such garden spots as Ames, Waco, Manhattan, and (best of all) Lubbock.

  130. 130.

    scav

    October 25, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    @Steeplejack: Yeah, odds are it’s the dreaded little Nell. And, yes, one usually does have great expectations of Dickens’ portrayals of hard times. . .

  131. 131.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Since this is a really open thread, I’ll also pimp my friend’s blog “The Ferals.” She and her husband have done wonders with a clan of feral cats that live in the woods behind their house. Got all the kittens (from various litters) fixed, and they just recently finally trapped and fixed the über-wily matriarch.

    Anyway, cute kitty pörn in this video. Lots of other good videos and pictures at the blog.

  132. 132.

    JCT

    October 25, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    @eemom:

    I actually look forward to being a grandmother some day. How weird is that.

    Hah– mine are 17 and 21 and the empty nest is about 8 months away. Complete with a cross-country move and a new house and job. Husband and I were happily discussing all of our plans — that lasted for about 10 minutes before we started in on how we can’t wait for grandchildren.

    I’m not even 50 — I must have lost my mind.

  133. 133.

    burnspbesq

    October 25, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    We’re celebrating the second anniversary of Laettner showing up on our front porch and taking over the joint.

  134. 134.

    soonergrunt

    October 25, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    @different-church-lady: Yeah. Had to be intubated, so I was completely out. I have obstructive sleep apnea, so the anesthesiologist wasn’t taking any chances.

  135. 135.

    madmommy

    October 25, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    @RedKitten:

    It’s good to address it early on, we are still dealing with issues resulting from the speech delay. He has special ed help with language and math, though not as many minutes this year as last. Hopefully by the time he is out of this school (5th grade) he will be completely caught up with his peers. He has always been my “march to a different drummer” child, and will never fit neatly into educational boxes.

  136. 136.

    burnspbesq

    October 25, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    Dear Mr. Stagger Lee,

    We’d rather have Rutgers.

    Very truly yours,

    The ACC

  137. 137.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Did you ever find out what happened to the one that came at the same time as Laettner? I need closure, but not if it’s a story with a bad ending.

  138. 138.

    woodyNYC

    October 25, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    still at work at 10:46 on my birthday. This sucks.

  139. 139.

    burnspbesq

    October 25, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Hurley? We think she got adopted down at the other end of the block. I see her darting across the street every once in a while when I come home late at night.

  140. 140.

    burnspbesq

    October 25, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    @woodyNYC:

    Whatever time you finish up, the drinking lamp will still be lit. We promise.

  141. 141.

    John Weiss

    October 25, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    @eemom: Not a bit. Not weird at all.

  142. 142.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Okay, that’s (sort of) reassuring.

    I feel sorry for the unwanted and homeless cats.

  143. 143.

    4jkb4ia

    October 25, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    @Nutella:

    Yes!

  144. 144.

    Samara Morgan

    October 25, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    i liek this very much!
    nom nom nom

    Julian-akhbar!
    hahaha

  145. 145.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 25, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    #128

    To Raven:

    I realize that nobody cares but me but the character I was thinking of was Nell from The Old Curiosity Shop.

    Little Dorrit has a fine ending. :-)

  146. 146.

    Steeplejack

    October 25, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    WTF?! I care, and I nailed it at 131. Gimme a little Dickens love here, please.

  147. 147.

    different-church-lady

    October 25, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    @soonergrunt: Open or laparoscopic?

  148. 148.

    tkogrumpy

    October 26, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Admitting that I don’t read every comment or post, I would like to know if any of the commentariat here would like to take a stab at Bevilaqua V. Rodrigues from the Massachusetts supreme court. It seems to me that this is a game changer for the banks, and I can’t believe it hasn’t been front page news.

  149. 149.

    burnspbesq

    October 26, 2011 at 12:20 am

    @tkogrumpy:

    Seems pretty straight-forward to me: if you “buy” something from someone who didn’t own it, you don’t own it, either. And since the try-title remedy under Massatwoshits law is only available to owners, Bevilacqua is SOL.

    http://www.massrealestatelawblog.com/tag/bevilacqua-v-rodriguez/

    Sucks to be Mr. Bevilacqua, who is absolutely not the villain here (that would be U.S. Bank), and who is apparently out a shit-load of money that he spent developing the property. Not sure what his next step is. I would be thinking about suing both U.S. Bank and the title insurance company (if there is one, which isn’t clear from what I’ve read about the case); one or the other of them should have to make him whole. Far from clear whether that would work.

    A huge mess that needs a legislative fix.

  150. 150.

    tkogrumpy

    October 26, 2011 at 12:28 am

    @burnspbesq: Thanks, I got my original heads up from your linked article.I would think this might have broader implications.

  151. 151.

    4jkb4ia

    October 26, 2011 at 1:14 am

    Lackey not pitching until 2013 isn’t pleasure so much as the absence of suffering. He may be replaced by someone who turns into an equal pumpkin.

  152. 152.

    different-church-lady

    October 26, 2011 at 2:17 am

    @4jkb4ia: If the replacement has the same ERA but isn’t a snarling mass of head case, I’ll consider it a step in the right direction.

  153. 153.

    Warren Terra

    October 26, 2011 at 3:21 am

    There’s a pretty good parody of the Cain Smoking Man ad, from blogger Jay Smooth.

  154. 154.

    Carol from CO

    October 26, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    How to write a popular blog: let your readers do all the writing.

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