Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

There is no compromise when it comes to body autonomy. You either have it or you don’t.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Let’s finish the job.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

Come on, man.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

Bad news for Ron DeSantis is great news for America.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Consistently wrong since 2002

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Their freedom requires your slavery.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

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  1. 1.

    Keith

    Looks like I may be able to get through this week without hearing “Tebow-mania” ad nauseum on the TV (7 sacks – again – and a blowout loss). Things are looking up!

  6. 6.

    OzoneR

    Irony- listen to my right wing family blather about how you can’t rehabilitate criminals and you need to throw away the key, then asked me “You don’t believe in rehabilitation?” when I question whether Michael Vick deserves to play again after what he did.

    “I believe in redemption and rehabilitation, it’s just you don’t unless it’s for people who can win you the football pool at work.”

    Let’s no go into how “gambling is immoral”

    fucking hypocrites

  7. 7.

    Kathy

    I will fully admit that I wasn’t happy to see Vick in Philly, however, he did his time, he has never tried to say that he was set up and he is doing all the work with the SPCA that he said he was going to do. Would it really have been better to take away any legitimate way for him to earn a living?

  9. 9.

    hhex65

    well, with “baseball-cap-on-backwards-guy” under center for the opposing team anything is possible

  11. 11.

    Loneoak

    Oh man, another Vick argument fest!

    When he goes on 60 Minutes and tearfully recounts electrocuting puppies as they drown in a pool, I will consider him rehabilitated. Most people think he ran a dog fighting ring—which is bad enough, but I could understand a least a little bit culturally—but he ran a dog torture ring more than anything. Or if BADRAP forgives him, I might think about it. But for now, I don’t think he is rehabilitated.

    @Kathy:

    Would it really have been better to take away any legitimate way for him to earn a living?

    Mopping floors at McDonald’s is a perfectly fine way to earn a living. You are conflating making a living and being a millionaire on television.

    As far as the game goes, the best I can wish for is a bus crash.

  14. 14.

    S. cerevisiae

    I’m rooting for the meteor.

    ETA: I’ve hated the Cowboys since 1975. And anyone who can look in a dog’s eyes and do that is an amoral person.

  15. 15.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    @Keith:

    Quite the line on Tebow this week
    Passing (Comp-Att-Int-Yards-Avg-Sacks)
    18-39-1-117-3-7

    Looks like God doesn’t have you in his pool Tim

  17. 17.

    soonergrunt

    OT–and Thank Bieber, the way this thread is about to go,
    The Politico has two women accusing Herman Cain of Sexual Harassment.

    During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.
    The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association. The agreements also included language that bars the women from talking about their departures.
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67194.html#ixzz1cJounM8P

    But one source closely familiar with Cain’s tenure in Washington confirmed that the claims related to allegations of sexual harassment – behavior that disturbed members of the board who became aware of it, as well as the source, who otherwise liked Cain.
    “I happen to know there were sealed settlements reached in the plural. I think that anybody who thinks this was a one-time, one-person transgression would be mistaken,” this source said.

  18. 18.

    The Dangerman

    Do we have a definitive legal/illegal call on Polamalu’s last play? Dude’s from SC, so it’s probably illegal.

    If a balls fumbled, it’s illegal for the offense to advance it or hit/kick it out of bounds intentionally (it’s illegal touching). Now, I think Defense can do just about whatever the hell it wants unless it gains possesion, in which case, see the previous.

    I think it’s a legal play, though not really head and shoulders above the rest because, in theory, New England could have recovered the onsides kick and scored. In theory, of course.

  19. 19.

    Ben Cisco (mobile)

    He did his time, unlike a great many criminals large and small. Nobody has to like it, but he did what the law said he had to do. Don’t care about the Iggles, hate the Cowgirls. Vick could be worse, he could be Cheney.

  25. 25.

    soonergrunt

    @ABL: But how about we hate on Herman Cain, too? Hating Republicans is just like Jello. There’s always room for it!
    We ought to googlebomb Herman Cain with the wikipedia definition for Sexual Predator just like I did right there.

  26. 26.

    The Dangerman

    @ABL:

    More of an “I hate the Cowboys” thread.

    Me, too, but a ‘Boys win means the Eagles start 2 and 5 and would be just about cooked for the playoffs.

  32. 32.

    Mark B.

    Cowboys win on defense, they held them to a field goal. If they keep this up, they might keep the margin under 40.

  34. 34.

    licensed to kill time

    @ABL:

    This thread wasn’t meant to be a Vick argument thread.

    The thread bloweth where it will, and thou readest the comments thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every thread that is born of the Spirit of the Juice of Balloon.

  36. 36.

    General Stuck

    Browns lost, so blah blah on football. But I do have this to whom it may concern from allegations on a previous thread as to my position on Obama, the start of the campaign, as well as making jobs the focus with campaigning rhetoric populism.

    August 31, 2011 BJ thread by Dennis G

    comment #36

    Timing is everything in politics. Obama has far more hits than misses with grand gestures in his presidenting. Such as the big classroom bipartisan get together, to get congress to finish up with passing HCR. He’s delivering the same message day after day at town halls and stops all around the country for a while now. Sort of local mini bully pulpiting picked up by local news for that area.

    This grand gesture is timed just right for after the traditional POTUS reelect campaign begins on labor day, and for all the nice touches Dennis G mentions. It is why this president has been on of the most successful ones thus far in his term, against an insane and disloyal opposition. Obama has this, my little progressive childn’

    comment #101

    Granted, there aren’t a lot of people seriously considering electoral politics at this early stage, but I suspect more than normal, folks are tuned into our long runnng bad economy, especially about jobs.

    But mostly what this is for, is to frame the election debate, and overall political debate concerning the number one issue, that of jobs. It is as much for inside the beltway politics, as anything, to use the megaphone a president has to lay down markers and be on offense, and put the other guys on defense.

    I approve of populism, when the timing is right. And using wingnut strategy against the wingnuts, like with the Super Committee democrats and Obama, still pushing the “Grand Bargain” to include cuts in medicare. For pure politics, without any chance of passing with attached tax raises for rich people. That will be all for now, unless someone has questions.

  38. 38.

    JPL

    @ABL: A little late..
    I’m just glad Philly isn’t playing Denver then we’d have to talk about Tebow and Vick.

  40. 40.

    The Dangerman

    @Ron:

    The announcers seemed to agree it was illegal. I don’t understand why it should be though.

    Mike Cary’s a pretty good referee; it happened fast, but it was clear that it was either kicked or hit. It could make a difference if it went out of bounds…

    …which it must have done, because it was a safety.

    Strange play all around.

  41. 41.

    soonergrunt

    @Southern Beale:

    You get the gold star!

    Right in the middle of my forehead.

    If Cain had done it, he would’ve said something like “Years ago, when I was young and immature, I did something I’m not proud of. We reached a settlement with the people in question, and I have learned lessons from it and moved on. I will not answer questions on the subject as it is a personnel matter with a former employer.”
    Instead he’s acting like he’s pissed off that he has to deal with this, and issuing these clumsy non-denial things.
    I don’t know if Rove did this, (it IS his kind of thing) or the person on the board of the Restaurant Association who is giving all the information to Politico is the one who gave the whole thing up, but I would be shocked if Cain wanted this to ever see the light of day.

  42. 42.

    JPL

    @Southern Beale: Rove…
    The females admitted it even though they signed an agreement. They must feel comfortable that they won’t lose the settlement or if they do, they will be rewarded by other sources.

  43. 43.

    Ben Cisco (mobile)

    Why is our Ferengi media suddenly enamored of the Madoffs and what they have to say? Just saw a blurb for a GE interview tomorrow hot on the heels of Viacom’s lovefest tonight.

  44. 44.

    Suffern ACE

    @Ben Cisco (mobile): Maddoffs have a book. I believe it’s a combination cook book/accounting manual. But since it’s the Maddoffs, no one really believes the book that is being released to the public is the real one.

  45. 45.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    Why the national obsession with Tim Tebow’s silent prayers? Albert Pujols gives thanks to the imaginary man in the sky after every home run. Are only all-stars able to do their god bothering without being mocked?

  48. 48.

    Mark B.

    All right, time for the Cowbows to string together 4 more long bombs, and Romonize Vick by having him lose a five touchdown lead. All they need is for dogkiller to start feeding the ball to the cowboy defenders.

  50. 50.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    @Joel:

    No, but Reggie White did and Kurt Warner did. I don’t remember a nationwide obsession with their prayer rituals.

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    @the Dangerman:

    Meanwhile, the Common Little Adults are winning just enough that it will be impossible for Guerrero to get rid of Neuheisel. Which is cause for joy on the cardinal side of town.

  53. 53.

    soonergrunt

    @Shawn in ShowMe: probably because it’s so self-consciously cheesy. I think he does that intentionally, and I think the fact that he does it intentionally comes through to everybody.

  56. 56.

    Elie

    @Loneoak:

    This this this…

    Let him mop floors. Nothing — nothing for ME, can say its ok for him to be earning millions in the NFL in a high profile position. I could take quietly selling insurance, or as was offered, mopping floors. I don wanna see him in bright lights — evah. I hope they bust his ass every damned play every damned game.

  58. 58.

    Suffern ACE

    @soonergrunt: There is a difference I guess between “God has blessed me with talents for football” vs. “You fans are so blessed watching my talents.” It is not likely that many were raised in Christian traditions that made watching football a means through which God’s plan is revealed and furthered. The whole “imagine what football would be like without me” message is a bit of a put off to a lot of people.

  59. 59.

    Elie

    @Admiral_Komack:

    A lifelong PATTERN of cruelty to animals (or humans) — is not rehabilatable enough to ME, to allow him to have a high profile, high pay job in the NFL. Yes, I believe spiritually, he can be rehabilitated — for sure I believe in the power of contemplation and reflection and intentionally moving to a new way. This man hurt helpless animals who depended on him in every way — for YEARS.

    No way. NO NFL. My thinking is that he is a flying Dutchman — bringing misfortune to every team he touches.

  60. 60.

    Thomas Beck

    When the dogs Michael Vick butchered can come back to life and forgive him, then I’ll forgive him.

  62. 62.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    Wow, I hope the Vick Tribunal here doesn’t eat Korean chop suey. They’ve been in the dog killing business a lot longer than Michael Vick.

  64. 64.

    Yutsano

    @Shawn in ShowMe:

    Wow, I hope the Vick Tribunal here doesn’t eat Korean chop suey. They’ve been in the dog killing business a lot longer than Michael Vick.

    ORLY?? Did you have to go THERE?

  65. 65.

    AxelFoley

    LOL at those hating a man who’s served his time. I’ve seen more folks be more forgiving of people who’ve actually harmed human beings than Vick.

    Get the fuck over it. The man screwed up his life and career, did his time and was given a second chance. And so far, he’s making the most of it.

  67. 67.

    Joel

    @hhex65: Did the teabaggers adopt legalized steroids as part of their platform? Might explain things. (Not to disparage the Cardinals specifically, I reckon that most professional athletes are still using PEDs).

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