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I have no interest in this Cain sexual harassment story. Do any of you have any interest in it?

There’s only one part that amuses me, and that’s the conservative claim that the librul media did this. I agree with those who say that Rove dropped a dime here. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, it’s all in the game.

Also too, I am hoping that Juan Williams and Richard Cohen weigh in on this.

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  2. 2.

    Steeplejack

    I would love for someone to drop a dime on Karl Rove’s ass. There’s got to be plenty of dirty laundry waiting to be aired.

    And it will happen, sooner or later. As I believe the Rev. Martin Luther King once said, payback’s a bitch. I just hope it’s sooner rather than later.

  5. 5.

    lamh34

    Nope, no interest at all.

    I’m too brainwashed by Democrats to care what they do to da brutha.

    I’ll say this though, it’s so obviously a hit piece, but couldn’t have happened to a better guy.

  8. 8.

    cleek

    no.
    and i don’t care for the “Rove did it” speculation either.

    something about all this and “reality-based” doesn’t seem to add up. either we’re going to be Politico-style rumor mongers or we’re going to be reality-based.

    actually, substitute “i’m” for “we’re”.

  10. 10.

    The Dangerman

    Of course it’s the liberals; conservatives are perfect Americans.

    /T-Types

    Of course, why Liberals would want to take out their weakest Top Tier candidate is beyond me; perhaps it’s the double secret twisting thingy, because I rather expect Cain to get a nice bounce out of this thing. May not last, but his base will eat up his singing today.

  11. 11.

    Villago Delenda Est

    No interest, other than the amusement of rightwing shitheads avoiding the 500 pound Rove in the room who very obviously dug this up in order to help OvenMitt get “hist turn”.

    The stupid of the right…it burns!

  14. 14.

    JGabriel

    DougJ @ Top:

    I have no interest in this Cain sexual harassment story. Do any of you have any interest in it?
    __
    There’s only one part that amuses me, and that’s the conservative claim that the librul media did this.

    That’s the part that amuses me, too. It’s so obviously a GOP ratfuck.

    Liberty60:

    I read somewhere that Cain fathered a black child in South Carolina.

    Heh.

    .

  15. 15.

    Gilles de Rais

    Hell yes I’m interested. I want to see if he gets the Clarence Thomas “slide into greatness” treatment or not – and I think it’s all going to boil down to whether the accusers are black or white women.

  16. 16.

    Cat Lady

    In 1991 it took 50 women going on record for the WaPo to finally kick Juan’s ass. You can be sure that in Cain’s case, there’s going to be a steady drip drip drip. Where there’s two, there’s some big number times two – ask Tiger Woods.

  17. 17.

    ajr22

    The fact that there was a story in Politico about Rove saying Cain needs to come out with the entire story, means it was most likely Rove. I mean only Politico would take a dirty trick story from some one like Rove, and then turn around and give him his own article claiming the victim of the article needs to admit the truth behind the claims.

  18. 18.

    DougJ

    @cleek:

    I don’t mean to rumor-monger about Rove either. What I mean is that if a dime was dropped, it was probably dropped by a Republican.

  19. 19.

    Martin

    Oh, it’s interesting in a meta sort of way.

    How candidates handle situations like this, whether the story is true or otherwise is very revealing to how they’re going to handle difficult situations in the job. What the accusation happens to be is uninteresting, as is where it came from. How he deals with a difficult situation is quite interesting.

  21. 21.

    DougJ

    @Cat Lady:

    I think the comparison with Woods is wrong. He didn’t create a hostile workplace or fuck up anyone’s career. He was a cheater, but no one was suing him.

  25. 25.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Also too, I am hoping that Juan Williams and Richard Cohen weigh in on this.

    Blame it on Cain; don’t blame it on media.

  26. 26.

    AA+ Bonds

    @cleek:

    that ain’t me.

    Happy Halloween Everybody

    (Rove clearly did it, everyone already hates Rove in America, so attaching him to this and Romney to him is both honest and a gimme, and if you don’t call him out on this and laugh at him it will be 15% more effective when he tries something similar on the President.)

  27. 27.

    PoliticalHack

    I think that Cain’s SH issues are relevant, but the cases themselves not so much since they happened so many years ago (hope he does not try to pull the “youthful indiscretion BS line, though).

    He should have simply stated “yes, there were a couple of complaints” and left it at that. If he was asked if there were settlements, he should have simple replied “yes, there were settlements”. No – the idiot had to try to lie. We had 8 years with a bozo that could not tell the truth… we don’t need any more.

  29. 29.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @PoliticalHack:

    (hope he does not try to pull the “youthful indiscretion BS line, though).

    You mean like the vile sack of shit called Henry Hyde?

  31. 31.

    J.W. Hamner

    I don’t care in the sense that I never thought Herman Cain had a chance at the nomination, but it’s always upsetting to see these kind of allegations.

  32. 32.

    Lysana

    The reactions interest me more than seeing yet another philosophical scion of the Old Boy Network behaving just like his idols and peers. The possibility it’s an in-house backstab amuses me. As does finding out thanks to this thread that he has a possible money scandal that this is distracting from.

  33. 33.

    cleek

    @DougJ:
    but that’s just speculation. it’s quite possible Politico just has a Lexis account, somebody there searched for cases in which he was involved, and that turned up.

    and, i don’t buy into the Rove-Mastermind theory. he’s just a cynical douchebag who drew a couple of lucky hands. he’s no puppetmaster.

  35. 35.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @OccupyDougJ: Of course it was – there’s simply no need for anyone else to drop such a dime. But “the librul media defame us with lies daily” is an unrelenting theme for them. So it’s interesting, primarily in how unsurprising that it turned up, and how highly improbable its potential accuracy is.

  36. 36.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    Yes, I am interested in watching the Repubs tear themselves apart over this so I want it to stay in the news.

    Carry on. :)

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @cleek:

    and, i don’t buy into the Rove-Mastermind theory. he’s just a cynical douchebag who drew a couple of lucky hands. he’s no puppetmaster.

    I don’t disagree, and your theory about a Lexis search is eminently logical, but one thing Rove does know how to do is play the media. Sometimes, I think he trots out whacky shit to see if he can get David Gregory to parrot it (i.e, Democrats rushed to war in Iraq

    Someone at Fox must have a sense of humor, since they brought Ann Coulter out on Hallowe’en to push the Cain-as-victim theory.

  38. 38.

    DougJ

    @cleek:

    I’m just saying I doubt Democrats did it. It might have been good reporting (though I doubt it, this is Politico) or it might have been winger-on-winger violence.

  39. 39.

    cursorial

    “Yes, I was falsely accused while I was at the National Restaurant Association,” he said. “I say falsely because it turned out, after the investigation, to be baseless.”

    I don’t want to read too much into the wording of a non-scripted remark, but “turned out after investigation to be baseless” seems like a very legalistic way to describe a situation you were a principal in. Kind of like, “we investigated whether I cheated on my wife, and concluded I didn’t. Therefore I’m innocent”

  40. 40.

    Observer

    Well we know it’s not good reporting. The only named people in the article, some of them board members, deny any knowledge of the alleged incidents and the only unnamed people claim something happened.

    Textbook rumour-mongering. It may turn out the story is true but if you gave me a dollar for every unsourced or unnamed media story that turned out to seriously misrepresent the facts once they got out, I’d be worth millions.

  42. 42.

    eemom

    Well, now that you mention it…..no. No, I don’t care.

    Which reminds me of an old joke about a traveling saleslady and a farmer’s sons….

  43. 43.

    Southern Beale

    There’s only one part that amuses me, and that’s the conservative claim that the librul media did this.

    Hilarious, ain’t it? Let me think … who out there could possibly want to push Herman Cain out of the way? Thinking … thinking …

    You’ve got at least 6 other Republican rivals and they want to blame liberals? We LOVE Herman Cain! He’s a walking disaster.

    I for one am interested in the story, if only because it’s so amusing to watch. First he denied the allegations, then denied a payment was made, now on Fox News tonight he admitted a payment WAS made.

    He’s over.

    I suspect someone decided those Iowa poll numbers were getting a little too scary. Time to take him out.

    The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO got knee-capped. I mean, you can’t make this shit up.

  44. 44.

    jwb

    @cleek: It is speculation, but Rove has been known to engage in this kind of behavior before, so the speculation is not exactly unwarranted. What we do know is that Politico ran with what appears to be a fairly thinly sourced article—not the sort of thing that Politico would likely do against a Republican unless they were persuaded by someone influential in the party that the story had legs and that they wouldn’t suffer blowback from the establishment GOP. Now whether it is productive for us to spend our time dissecting internal GOP political maneuvering—that’s a fair question.

  45. 45.

    Shade Tail

    I wouldn’t say I don’t care (I’m a lady; this topic is important to me), but I am kind of burned out. Seeing any kind of perverse sex-stuff from a right winger is like seeing water in a lake. What else would you expect?

    And a *powerful* right winger in particular? I don’t believe that there is even one old-school right winger who hasn’t indulged in sexually harassing women in or near his office or golf course.

  46. 46.

    Calouste

    @jwb:

    From the Politico article I read, it wasn’t thinly sourced, they just didn’t release the names. But IIRC they had the settlement papers and confirmation about the identity of one of the women from three different people.

  49. 49.

    debbie

    I worked for the publisher of “The Real Anita Hill” and had to sell it to my accounts, so I’m interested in how this turns out and how much (or little) things have changed since then. I wonder if this too will be condemned as a high tech lynching of a black man and then proceed to be turned into a high tech lynching of a black woman.

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