CNBC backed out on the livestreaming (insert joke about scaring the market here), so the best I can offer is the Guardian‘s liveblog.
8.20pm ET: Hey, Michele Bachmann is still in the race. Well, she’s on stage, anyway, which isn’t really the same thing, I guess.
The pattern here is that none of the candidates are actually answering any of the pointed economic questions they are being asked. They may as well be wearing iPods. In fact I think Rick Perry is.
8.58pm ET: Healthcare reform, and the candidates are asked what they will replace “Obamacare” with. And there are some mildly coherent replies – or maybe my brain is melting. Apart from Cain, or course.
Cain just referred to Nancy Pelosi, the then Speaker of the House, as “Princess Nancy”. He really does have a problem with women, doesn’t he?
9.22pm ET: Trending right now on Twitter: Princess Nancy.
Thank you Guardian & YouTube:
9.47pm ET: Jon Huntsman has a go at Mitt Romney for pandering over a trade war with China. He’s right, of course.
“Governor Romney: are you pandering?” wonders John Harwood. “I’ve been in business all my life,” says Mitt. Well, not really, since you’ve been a full-time politician for the last 10 years.
This is such obvious pandering by Mitt that it should be in a zoo trying to mate.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
two live blog threads?
Stereo? They’re larger than Life? Giving them enough Thread? Sorry, wasting time. Just here to jump to the guardian really.
@Raven (formerly stuckinred):
Hell, not only that but nobody is here on either one.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
@realbtl: Tru dat
The gods must be favoring me tonight. No cable TV, and apparently CNBC isn’t streaming the thing. Thus, I am protected from The Stupid.
Until the next debate, anyway.
Where is everyone? Have we watched so many of these ridiculous debates that everyone’s had enough? Or is it Wednesday night and everyone’s at church…..?
@dmsilev: then i won’t tell you that someone on rumproast found a stream somewhere.
I could care less about this debate- they all suck. Im voting for Obama and that’s the end of that. On the other hand, I can’t get enough of the info coming in about the Penn State scandal- Wow, just wow! Watching grown men cry on TV about this horrible situation (for the young kids) has almost been life changing for me.
I’m thinking that even the point and laugh crowd is tuning this joke out. If that’s the case pity the poor “uninformed voter”. Can a Neilsen (sp?) rating be negative?
Now I have to sacrifice a chicken to Zeus to keep his favor.
Romney sounding least crazy of the group, and it’s hurting him with the audience.
The GOS is liveblogging, if you care to read paraphrasing. Needs more snark, IMO. Then again, can snark ever match the in
@arguingwithsignposts: Thank you. I set the timer for fifteen minutes because that’s all I can take without developing indigestion.
Apparently, they’re all running against Occupy Wall Street. Good luck with that.
The Guard liveblog is about to blow a cork.
90% of loans with fannie Android freddie?
& not Android
9-9-9! Herman Cain! I want to grope America like Sharon Bialek’s crotch!
Locally we have a High Wind Advisory and 50 MPH gusts. Coincidence? I think not.
How much of a fail is it to ask the moderator what he would do? You’re not debating him, Flopney.
Dammit, I thought Perry said he was going to avoid all future debates. What the Hell? He still looks totally unprepared.
I hope they have a strong roof on that building. The best way to improve the electoral chances of the republican party is a building collapse that kills all the current candidates.
I hope someone asks Romney about the Big 3 bailout that he opposed. Oakland is within 30 miles of all 3 US automakers’ head offices. Without the bailout the university probably wouldn’t have enough students to be able to pay the light bill.
Isnt’ the biggest news that Newt Gingrich admitted to being paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac for “advice” in 2006????
The live feed is so jumpy and jerky that I cannot make sense of it, and it’s irritating.
Now it’s totally died and I can’t get it started again.
So, too bad, no live GOP presidential primadebate for me tonight.
From snips I heard, Hunstman was trying to steer a middle ground between doing whatever the to big to fail banks want, escaping the moral hazard of bottomless promises of federal bailout money, and going full bore to unregulated FREE MONEY FREEDOM banking.
So, in the context of a GOP pres primary debate, and given the audience, Huntsman probably sounds like a deranged madman.
Cain calling Nancy Pelosi “Princess Nancy” sure will put those pesky sexual harassment charges to bed!
Newt wants federal funding for brain science and mental health.
Pandering to his base.
Newt is impressive.
West of the Cascades
The Guardian is one of the reasons I won’t care when the New York Times’s year-long “free trial sponsored by Someone Who None of us can Remember but who Paid Lots of Money to the NYT” comes to an end and they want me to pay them to access the NYT site behind the paywall.
Josh Marshall @ TPM
Marcus Bachmann, taking a page from the Herman Cain defense playbook, announces, “I’m not gay. For every man who accuses me of sucking his cock, there are thousands who will tell you that Marcus Bachmann never sucked their cocks.”
More good news from the electoral front
I don’t know if dems plan to politik with reviving immigration reform, or find some other way of baiting the GOP xenophobes into a hateful lather towards Hispanics, but most experts say the GOP can’t win the WH with less than 40 percent of the Latino vote. Some counter evidence to the usual ‘it’s the economy stupid’ poll axiom, into a new axiom of “it’s the wingnuts being mean and crazy stupid’
“didn’t think it was possible but I think Newt is more animated by contempt today than he was in the 90s.”
Damn, sounds like some prime Newt action tonight. Reconnected to livestream, and hope to enjoy me some intense The Newt Experience.
No, link clunked out again. I’ll have to look at the clips later.
@West of the Cascades: The paywall is so ineptly designed that you can get past it by clearing your cookies or running NoScript on Firefox. And there’s a bunch of other stupidly-simple methods.
Newt’s feeling his oats. Herman’s faceplant is the best thing that’s happened to him since the 1980s.
Well just wow Romney spoke about health care and said nothing..
John - A Motley Moose
@Reality Check: heh heh Good one, Reality Challenged.
So, has Herman Cain made a rhyme yet?
How does “getting back to doctor-patient relationship” fix the health care costs? WTF does that even mean?
@Punchy: Are we back to chickens?
@Reality Check: That chicken shit draft dodging fucking punk, yea he’s impressive ok.
@lamh35: You know, I think it is time that someone kicked Cain square in the nuts. I’m going to volunteer. My guess is there will be a line. What a fuckwit.
Aren’t all these debates aside from the occasional awkward Mittens physical contact just a whole lotta “Obama-sushalism-don’t-punish-jobs-creators-oooh-scary-darkies-icky-gays-oh-hi-ron-paul-almost-forgot-about-you”?
West of the Cascades
@Thoroughly Pizzled: Thanks!! I think … I will now still have to be be tempted several times a week to actually click on articles by Brooks and Douthat.
Maybe I’ll set a filter that redirects me to The Guardian whenever I click on nytimes.com.
Can FYWP learn to do spam filtering better?
Probably some clumsy reference to tort reform.
So’s that storm in Alaska, but a little less tragic.
@Reality Check: So was the digestive aftermath of my last Indian meal, but that’s not gonna be the GOP nominee either, hard as it might be to tell them apart.
I’m still for Romney, though.
@Reality Check: Like a stream of bat’s piss he shines out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark.
Then Calista better start checking Newt’s cell phone call history and credit card receipts. Just sayin’.
Of course, she’d know that from personal experience, wouldn’t she?
@Anne Laurie: brutal.
You people are masochists.
Or possibly Romney/Daniels. I love our Governor, too bad he didn’t run.
Here’s another great idea from the nutty professor: Abolish the Congressional Budget Office.
@West of the Cascades: Install this add-on and click it every time the NYT threatens you.
“Princess Nancy?” Herm, you smooth talker you!
I actually think Boner’s more deserving of the title “Princess.” He’s the delicate flower who breaks down sobbing at the drop of a hat.
Wait a minute here. If RC is on this thread then he can’t be Doug J trolling his own thread to drive up replies. Unless this is one of his (Doug J’s) cleaver plans to throw us off his scent.
Shit I’m so confused.
L. Ron Obama
OK Perry is finally fucking toast. CAIN SURGE
DougJ, you’re going to have to step up your game. More drool!
Dammit, Perry lost his train of thought again. Bad enough, but it’s only 2 or 3 cars long.
@L. Ron Obama: Details!
To be fair, that’s not something Calista needs to worry about unless she gets a cancer diagnosis.
The man works in subtle ways…
“I’m still for Romney, though.” That is funny.
He could turn out to be a hippie liberal!
@L. Ron Obama:
What’d I miss?
Rick Perry is dumb ass shit ain’t he.
Nobody gives a shit.
So, have any of the polling outfits broken down Herb’s support among men vs. women?
Has Rick Perry spoke more than once?
Edit: OMG is Perry fucked. WOW
This is Anne Laurie’s thread, realbtl. Check at top.
Asked what 3 postions he would get rid of, Perry actually forgot the third one!!!!!
i.e. 1. Secretay of State, 2. Sec of Education, 3. “Uh I forgot”..
WTF. Never thought I’d say this, but Rick Perry may just be dumber than Sarah “Freakin’ Palin!
Dude literally said “Oops!”..
I see what tomorrow’s headline will be. Will be interesting to see what they are in Texas.
@Mark B.: I caught that snip, Perry couldn’t name a third cabinet or major executive agency to shut down. What a s o s h u l i s t! Or not very quick on his feet, brainwise.
From the bits I heard, Huntsman and Paul are the only ones able to put together a coherent argument. For the rest, a string of filler between emphasized buzzwords, or between sound bite slogans for their flat tax plans. And Paul’s economic ideas are nuts, so hearing him argue for them is painful.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
from the Guardian
Davis X. Machina
@Punchy: Think ‘Reactionary Poetry Magnets’. It doesn’t have to mean, it has to sound.
Into jowls wattles, and multiple divorces? Figures.
Really — this guy was never tenured and was basically chased off from his only “academic” position. He’s barely more professorial than my beagle. And she’s a far better “person: than he could ever hope to be.
Does 2/3rds of once count?
So, Rick Perry is going to abolish the Federal Department of Oops. ok, that one might be a good one actually, except maybe not under his administration.
@Reality Check: Woo hoo! RC confirms it: Newt’s been crowned the next NotRomney!
@lamh35: Perry is making a run for the dimmest bulb. He had a point about maybe best thing was to skip some debates. He can think some things through.
didn’t DougJ usually troll his threads as simply DougJ?
It’s like a sitcom.
You are on fire tonight, DougJ.
Davis X. Machina
@JCT: He killed off the Office of Technology Assessement in ’95. It’s what Newt does — messenger-shooting.
This is delightful. It’s so much fun watching that train wreck that it makes me wish Reality Check was a real person.
Oh, well. You can’t always get what you want.
Mostly, not always, IIRC. You’d have to ask DougJ, really.
@JCT: Excuse me, Newt is one of the leading world authorities on alternative history.
Nah, he’s a master of many disguises.
If Rick Perry continues to perform at this rate he’ll spend the next debate drooling at the camera for all of his answers.
Oh, hell. Now I know what I want my friend to do at the candidate meet & greet: get downwind of Perry and take a whiff. He’s a college student so he’ll know if the telltale scent of Dutch courage is there.
Is he Ward or the Beav?
I heard that buy, buy, buy bear sterns cramer is a mod ?
No wonder, it’s bye, bye for livestreaming.
Fucking cramer is in charge this clown show ? Gimme a beak.
He izs awesomely11-dimensional.
Clearly, the way to relieve student loan debt is to END THE FED. Thanks, Ron.
For the last fucking time, I’m not DougJ. In fact I’ve been banned here several times by the admins.
Rick Perry transcript from TPM:
Coming to the end of an answer on how he’d create a more business friendly environment when he gets to Washington, he said “When I get there there’ll be three agencies I’ll end: commerce, education and… um… what’s the third one there?”
He turned to Ron Paul who said, “There should be five… One is EPA.”
“EPA,” replied Perry. “No, um, the EPA should be rebuilt. The third is… um.”
The moderator then asked, “Are you saying you can’t name the third?”
“No,” Perry conceded. He couldn’t.
Daniels, the only VP pick that could decrease the chance of a republican win, besides, perhaps, John huntsman.
Office of management and budget under Bush.
Personally, I think it’s oxycontin or whatever pain reliever Perry’s taking for his back.
Well sure — that one’s a fairly straightforward “any organization that dares to say reality differs from what conservatives want it to be must be destroyed.” If Newt becomes president, everything government agencies report about the country will conform to wingnut expectations.*
* I feel confident in saying this because it’s an “if false, then…” statement.”
Newt thinks the government helping students to pay for college is somehow counterproductive. Economic genius he is not.
He is, as Dr. Spooner might have remarked, one of the Republican Party’s shining wits.
Perry: “We need a blended program for Social Security, like the blended Scotch I am drunk on”
I can’t watch it without a degree of separation, so I just follow the live feeds, and evidently Perry’s gaffe was pretty epic. Sullivan and TPM were both pretty funny about it. Sullivan:
No and no, Andrew.
A clever but obvious ruse to make it seem like you’re not really DougJ. Amirite, DougJ?
Really, Newt thinks that college is too expensive because so many people can afford to go. If you go back to the old days when only the children of the rich have the resources to attend, market forces will bring the prices back down.
didn’t DougJ usually troll his threads as simply DougJ?
DougJ is vast; he contains multitudes.
ETA: cripey, I’m beginning to sound like LittleBoots.
That’s exactly the kind of thing DougJ would say under the hard light of an interrogation room.
Obama opens a 9 point lead on Romney in Ohio. Leads all other Goopers by double digits.
A year is a long time of course, but John Kasich is toxic and will be no help to their chances.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Reality Check: Of course your Doug. Only someone who is guilty of being Doug would deny that he is Doug.
No, Newt’s a whining …
Oh, wait, I see what you did there.
A likely story.
@JGabriel: I will note down that technique. Thanks, joel hanes.
The Guardian live blog is very good. Will check that for updates.
Fuck you spoofer, mods, can you clean that up, please?
Hehe, I was trying to spoof Reality Check, and I got moderated. I suppose that’s just desserts.
Video goodness for those who missed the implosion.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Reality Check: The ideal GOP ticket. At least they’d be competitive in PA.
He probably saw that it was working for Cain until his recent problems made it irrelevant.
See, that’s where the cleverness and eleventy-eleven-dimensionality kick in.
Oh, you are a sly one, “Reality Check.”
They banned you and now you’re appealing to them for redress?
Ballsy, aren’t you?
@Reality Check: Oh my god, which one’s the real Dougj?
@Reality Check: Meh, it was a bad joke anyway, but I’m pleased that it pissed you off.
If this place is what passes for clever, we’re doomed.
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Thank you. Daniels is a wonderful governor, a fiscal conservative who doesn’t give a crap about “social issues”. Ideal for Romney. The Tea Party is in control now and the Evangelicals need to learn to sit at the back of the bus for once.
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
We are all just different aspects of the greater Doug consciousness, apparently.
BTW I’m actually watching this thing. Who knew that the CNBC crew would actually ask reasonably probing questions (low bar, I know). I only know these people as voices on XM radio so I’m surprised.
I hope Maria B. gets to moderate at least one of the one-on-one debates next year.
Sometime u just have to thank God for Youtube!
The video of Perry’s meltdown in already up!
All and none for the Troll-Fu is strong in DougJ.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Perry’s “oops” at you tube. Wow.
I love his pithy comments.
Every time Rick Perry says “Oops,” I think, “No man who frequently says ‘Oops’ should be in charge of the nuclear trigger.”
Romney: “I’ve been in business all my life. 25 years”
Man, he looks like SHIT for a 25-year-old. Plus, not eligible
Poor Perry. You just want to give him a hug, a juice box and a pack of Goldfish crackers and let him sit the rest of this out.
Cain’s 999 bullshit is now completely comical.
Good lord. Education, HUD, EPA, Fannie, Freddie, IRS, EEOC, Labor, The H part of DHS, FRLB. There are actually “right” answers to give here that carry no consequences to conservative voters. Listing 10 might be a “gotcha”, but three?
Just saw a clip of perry, the platypus’s ‘oops’ moment.
Fucking disgrace to platypuses. He’s shrub alright, minus his minuscule ‘intelligence’. WTF did the texans see in him to elect him thrice ?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@RossInDetroit: I’d skip the hug, but gladly give him some juice, a blankie, and some goldfish (or animal crackers).
Actually, I am a separate Person, but together with Myself, and Samara Morgan, and DougJ, We form One Substance. But, I and Samara Morgan proceed from DougJ, and together with DougJ we are worshiped and glorified.
Really. Everybody knows the REAL Reality Check has repeatedly insisted that Cain will be the VP candidate in 2012.
(Unless, of course, Republicans are unfairly biased against job creating genius CEOs who also happen to be black.)
What is there to say that hasn’t been said 100 times already? Watch the Perry clip for Christ’s sake. These people are morons. Straight up.
How do you mock this stuff? When SNL can quote the last GOP VP candidate verbatim and people think it’s a joke, we’re so far off the reservation there’s no point in even trying to be clever anymore.
Let’s see: Balloon-Juicers can remember all of the myriad possibilities of DougJ impersonators and whatever Reality Check is saying this time, and Rick Perry can’t remember three government agencies worth tossing.
We have officially entered Unspeakable Levels of Sad.
The Tea Party-ers I know are all fundies. But I guess they could ask themselves to sit at the back of the bus. Right, DougJ?
Who won? I watched for ten minutes and Huntsman made an intelligent comment.
Jim Cramer: How do you restore faith in the Market?
Cain: Grow the economy.
Cramer: No, really, would you like to answer the question?
Cain: Grow the economy.
Cramer: Did you suffer head trauma in a traffic accident tonight?…
…and WTF was Bachmann yapping about regarding Chinese chips in our weapons?
Shit, I should have watched this hammered instead of sober.
It’s so embarrassing to be abjectly in love with a newspaper. . .
Herman Cain said that for every woman accusing him of sexual harassment, there are thousands who haven’t. Now he didn’t say “millions”. He didn’t say “hundreds of thousands”. He didn’t say “tens of thousands”. He said “thousands”. So, for every woman who is accusing Herman Cain of sexual harassment, there are 9,999 other women who haven’t.
Now, the population of the US is 309,000,000. That means there are roughly 1,545,000 women in the country. Let’s get rid of the people women who are not old enough for Herman Cain to sexually harass and just make the number 1,000,000 because I’m bad at math. If there are 9,999 women who haven’t been sexually harassed by Herman Cain for every 1 that has, that means Herman Cain has sexually harassed about 100 women.
We’re truly crushed by your disappointment.
Let’s take 1,000 as a lower bound multiplier and 999,999 as an upper-bound. There are currently roughly 3.5 billion women on this planet. That gives us a range of 3,500 to 3.5 million women Cain expects will level a harassment charge.
I don’t know about the GOP, but that 3,500 number is already looking mighty too large, and there’s a big upside risk from there to 3.5 million. Shit, with 150 million women in the US, there’s a 2.3% chance he harassed my daughter at that top end, and about a 1 in 4 chance he harassed one of my direct family members. I’m not cool with that.
Fuck me; I was listening to the debate while eating and missed the Perry meltdown live somehow. Seriously. What. In. The. Fuck. Was. That?
Cain was the happiest man in the room at that moment.
So who is the perceived winner of tonight’s discussion on how to destroy the country with one pen.
Here you go. I had to take a look since everyone was talking about it. Can’t wait to hear the right-blogger defense if they even bother.
It was pretty spectacular. You could tell it hit him pretty hard that he’d blown it again, milliseconds before he said, “Oops,” laughing.
I wouldn’t take what Cain said too seriously about ‘thousands of women’
Thousands leads to thousand, and thousand minus one is 999.
That’s right, NINE NINE NINE PLAN.
It was subliminal advertising, something Cain would know about.
So, I guess the thing is winding down. I suffered through several minutes of herky jerky live video feed and not one second of Newtcontempum! What a disappointment. I’ll look for clips later.
She probably read this yesterday. Or had it read to her.
They all went anti-China (I guess the illegal immigrants get a reprieve this week)… the obvious populist stance on-screen, but it won’t please certain sectors of the money-people.
Oh, fuck me. I had to go over to The Corner to see what that crew was saying about the debate.
Kathryn Jean Lopez on Perry’s “oops” moment:
I’m dying here.
ETA: Also, too, is Mona Charen who’s blogging over there the libertarian Mona who used to post on Greenwald’s blog all the time? Sell out!
@Suffern ACE: Actually, he could have tossed out any 3 random letters and gotten away with it:
“I’d abolish the ARF, the LQZ, and certainly the DMR. My opponents up here would probably opt for the more common agencies in an effort to pander for votes, but there are so many government agencies out there trying to steal your freedoms that simply don’t get the criticism they deserve! These are the kinds of agencies that Obama uses to pass his Christmas tree tax!”
And off we go on to a tangent that the hosts would be powerless to reign in.
@Martin: Still, you must admit that Cain’s stamina and determination are quite impressive. If we take an average estimate of say 100,000 harassed women, and assume that he’s been at this for 40 years, that’s 2500 women a year, or about 8 a day. One wonders how he finds time for anything *but* sexual harassment.
“I’d abolish the ARF”
That would be risky, might be some dog lovers among the Teabagger set.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@lol: That is fucking epic. Holy shit. Ladies and Gentlemen, my governor.
@Svensker: Seriously? Governor of Texas has to be one of the easiest jobs in the universe. All of the power is basically ceremonial. The fact that W. had no trouble with it should have been your first clue.
@JGabriel: Ding, ding, ding – Here’s your cigar, son.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@jrg: Will the real slim shady please stand up…?
JoePa out at Penn State will not coach again! PSU Pres out too!
Rick Perry: Nobody expects the Media Inquisition! My three biggest cuts would be the Department of Education,and Commerce! My TWO biggest cuts would be … I’ll come in again.
Herman Cain is trying to convince us that he never sexually harassed women by going on Jimmy Kimmel’s show and saying he’d never f*ck Gloria Allred, and then calling former Speaker of the House and current Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi “Princess Nancy.” Of corse, why shouldn’t I believe him?? He is obviously hoping not to get the vote of a single American woman. I was livid when I heard that — and noticed that champion of women Michelle Bachmann said nada about it. What an a**hole he is. Mack freakin’ daddy Cain.
Ok. Now I really want Perry to win the nom. Having him up there against Obama would be epic. Cain at least can bullshit on his feet. Perry’s brain goes into OH FUCK defcon-1 shutdown. If Obama ever got to ask him a question he’d probably lose the ability to blink his eyes and control his sphincter.
Gilles de Rais
@The Dangerman: Hate to give the vile creature any points, but the issue of non-US electronics in advanced weapons systems is actually a very real issue of concern to the military.
No, we are not fundies. We are fiscal conservatives, we only care about what is good for the taxpayer. Social issues are optional.
Cain attacking Pelosi with sexist taunts will only benefit him in winger primaries.
My money’s on Obama.
I have to admit, I always thought Perry was dumb, but even I thought he could count to three. I stand corrected.
Give Perry a little credit though. When Bush screwed up that bad he either didn’t notice or pretended it didn’t matter. Perry had the presence of mind to realize he was standing on his own tongue, and kind of apologize. That would never have crossed Bush’s mind.
He forgot Poland …
@Gilles de Rais:
True. Many chips have features that allow them to be remotely reprogrammed. And there’s virtually no way to test them for these undocumented functions. Don’t be surprised if you see the term FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array) pop up in a story about the malfunction of some piece of military hardware.
@Gilles de Rais: I agree. Its one area where I’m actually a protectionist. Part of the US national defense/interest plan should be ensuring that anything the US needs as part of military readiness, global disaster, etc. should be retained in-country. The government should ensure we at least have the capacity to produce guns, planes, tanks, food, medicine, etc. if needed.
But I don’t think Chinese semis in military products is a security issue. My understanding is that anything that goes in is quite low-level and well tested. Anything advanced actually is produced in the US.
Finishes with 409 wins; it’ll take more than 409 to clean up that mess.
I would have let him Coach out the season, but …
So we can expect no further static from the Tea Party with regards to same-sex marriage? Good.
The Other Chuck
As Rick Perry casts about wondering which three agencies to name, Ron Paul notices he may be in the field of view of a camera, and takes the opportunity to one-up (two-up?) Perry by raking the air with one of his dessicated claws while croaking out “five”. Perhaps he’s fantasizing about how many hundred thousand people he can put out of work with one executive order.
The Coen Brothers couldn’t pull off this level of black comedy.
So, same as every previous debate, then.
I’m pretty sure Michelle Bachman introduced her own tax plan tonight: the $9.99 plan.
I managed to last about 10 min on CNBC without hurting myself… at least not irreparably. I had the great good fortune to catch the “ooops” moment live – or well, I saw it live – well I stared in stunned awe, or something.
I know it is a lot of fun to point and laugh at these clowns, but the really sad part is what it means to governance of this nation. Goddamit what kind of Party does the other one have to be to manage to not be them?
How scary is the concept of being defined by your adversaries?
@Anne Laurie: I know this is pretty late to be responding to this, but that was fucking hilarious! I have only given 2 of these out before, but LOL.
So much win in one thread. Newtcontempum!
No, we are not fundies. We are fiscal conservatives, we only care about what is good for the taxpayer.
All my fundie in-laws are major teabaggers, and Jeebus swears that they not only drive the bus, but get to pick which minority will get run over today.
@Anne Laurie: FTW.
@Reality Check: Ok, that cracked me up.
Come December, I’m nominating this as the Comment of the Year.
@Hawes: How can there be less than 2 million women in a population of over 300 million?
@The Dangerman: I don’t know. I think there’s some value, in this case, to responding to information in a timely manner and doing something about it. You don’t just casually let child rapists go about their business. Nor do you allow their enablers to go on as though nothing happened.
David from PA
Perry obviously thought of maple syrup after he named the first two departments and then lost his train of thought.
Talking to CNBC after the debate, Bachmann says, “I think all of us recognize that is a moment none of us would want to go through. It was difficult, and we all feel very badly for him.”
She stopped short of “Bless his heart…”
@John O: This is funny because I just finished watching Hot Coffee, and decided Franken is my choice for 2016!!
OK, this mothafucka is DougJ trollin’ us.
Good lord that Perry vid is something. While I wish the third department were the Department of Kickin’ Ass I suspect that’s one he’ll be “Rammin’ through the Democrat congress.”
Abolish the Department of Executin’ the Innocent?
@Svensker: Oh yeah, Reality Challenged is definitely DougJ
That was just to throw off the scent. We know you’re DougJ, DougJ.
Freaking late, but I want it somewhere on record that I’m waiting for the first YouTube with Perry brainfart hightlights set to “Oops I Did It Again” — actually, I’d almost be shocked if there wasn’t one up already.
Thanks to everyone above for this thread – I’ve been chuckling nonstop reading the comments with some LOL’s for the math estimates of Cain’s sexual harassment activities.
Really funny everyone – claps all round.
Damn, definitely DougJ. Dude’s speaking in plural.
@Anne Laurie: here is a morsel of sorbet to cleanse your palate.
Please dont think this means i’ve forgiven you for being a closet JAFI.
Comrade Baron Elmo
I suspect that Perry’s dose of Dutch courage was, um, a bit larger tonight than it ought to have been. Yeah, I know, everything’s bigger in Texas — still, he really should learn the difference between a shot glass and a soup bowl.
Super-duper late to this party, but I gotta say “This is such obvious pandering by Mitt that it should be in a zoo trying to mate” is just pure win.
He actually said, “Oops”.
I figure being president and running for president is a cakewalk. Amirite?