The Republican debates are slowly alienating American voters, especially those of the brown persuasion, so I should be happy. It’s scary to think that any of these nuts could ever be president though.
I like the guy, but John Harwood is putting me to sleep already.
Republican debate open thread.
Updates.
Are you guys feeling the Newtmentum too?
The Dangerman
Cain is complaining about putting stuff in the caboose? This IS performance art!
Spaghetti Lee
Would you ladies and gentlemen like a wine menu for the evening?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
“Taxes lead to jobs leaving the country”
guess who?
Mnemosyne
@The Dangerman:
Man, I’d love to make a Coach Sandusky joke here, but it may be too soon.
JPL
Can I watch the porn show online?
David Koch
Obama leads Mittens 67-24 among Latinos in new Univision poll, which is 7 pts less than what McCain received in 2008.
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Maria, I just met a girl named Maria. . .
Samara Morgan
Newt totally can win.
All he needs is a pointy red hat.
jharp
My dumbass republican friend just the other day mentioned how Newt was gaining….
…after I asked him how it was that the GOP wasn’t been able to nominate a conservative in 2008 and has no chance in 2012 of nominating a conservative.
L. Ron Obama
Cain: “for every woman I’ve harassed, there are thousands I haven’t”
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Newt is going to go fucking ape shit on this panel.
General Stuck
Poor wingnuts. It’s the big dance, and Cinderella is doing acid.
freddie
The Euro crisis is going full-steam. Lets hope its NOT another bail-out for US taxpayers??
Screw it.
I bet M_C/Samara Morgan likes to kill puppies. Its just like a fox hunt…..Blah, Blah, Blah…..Un-believable, and YOU people went to school for that??
Lizzy L
Cain is toast. I don’t even have to watch this train wreck, that quote at #10 suffices. (Head/desk.)
JCT
@General Stuck: FTW!
L. Ron Obama
Man, this debate is boring. Without the ability to address each other directly, no one’s going to melt down.
Moonbatting Average
@L. Ron Obama: Are you serious?!?! Please tell me you’re serious.
scav
@Moonbatting Average: Guard Liveblog has it as
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Bachmann “Go to General Axelrod in Chicago for his orders”. This fucking bitch is so stupid it’s unreal.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Spaghetti Lee: Please. And someone give me the words for the drinking game. Kthnxbai.
L. Ron Obama
@Moonbatting Average: Not a direct quote of course, it was closer to “for every woman who comes forward with these claims, there are thousands who will come forward that will not”. It was pretty bizarre
The Dangerman
So, if everyone should pay a little income tax (Bachmann), how does a Capital Gains rate of zero collect taxes from those that get their money that way?
Raven (formerly stuckinred)
Aw, Cramer gone.
L. Ron Obama
Moderators, please, please let the candidates attack each other. I can read talking points anywhere guys
Raven
Stuckinred gone too.
forked tongue
Favorite quote from the comments at that Hot Air post:
Omnes Omnibus
@Raven: Man, I don’t even know who you are anymore.
Raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Jane does.
MikeJ
@forked tongue: They really hate Nicolas-François Canard because of his labour theory of value.
Omnes Omnibus
@MikeJ: And his Frenchiness.
burnspbesq
@The Dangerman:
Because capital gains aren’t income, ya big silly. They are God’s reward for His chosen people.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Raven (formerly stuckinred): But I want to call you stuckinred. And Happy Birthday Eve, buddy. (I’m not sure I’m in the group that can call you “dawg,” as was my initial instinct. I aim not to offend)
Raven
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): You can call me Ray or you can call me Jay but you doesn’t have to call me. . .oops, that’s my real name!
Thanks
Cacti
When Bush won in 2004, he made a significant Hispanic outreach, and it paid off with 44% of the Hispanic vote.
Raise your hand if you think any of the current Goopers will even crack 30%.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
The Guardian liveblog notes that Hunstman is “playing the adult, pointing out that for people who have just lost their jobs, blathering on about long-term reform is no use.” Clearly he is positioning for a run as a Blue Dog, as the current GOP wants nothing like that kind of mature reasoning.
L. Ron Obama
The only thing I get from this debate is that Cain lives to fight another day, unless he flashes his junk at Bartiromo within the next 26 minutes, and probably even then.
nastybrutishntall
Some good points, some bad points.
…
in the song, anyway.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
Another gem from the Guardian:
Priceless.
PeakVT
@Cacti: They’re probably trying to suppress that amount.
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@Raven: Bye-bye Stuckinred. That’s OK, I think we can remember who you are. At least those of us without long-term loss of short-term memory will be able to.
Raven
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Let’s see if temporarily Max Magee follows suit.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Raven: I like keeping my fka, though I’m tempted to become accidentally like a martyr. And I will continue to address you as stuckinred, because I’m stubborn like that.
Raven
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Aw, I’m cool like dat.
The hurt gets worse and the heart gets harder
mclaren
This would be encouraging, except that Barack Obama is also slowly alienating American voters. A few more assassinations of U.S. citizens without charges and without a trial, some austerity cuts to Medicare and Social Security while giving more whopping increases to military spending, a few more endless unwinnable wars in third world hellholes, a few more parts of his non-reform ACA getting quietly dropped by the White House as “unaffordable,” and Obama will wind up almost as unpopular as the republican presidential candidates.
Wait till Europe slides into a recession after the EU breaks up and drags the U.S. down into a double dip and we get 12% unemployment as the “new normal.”
Obama will learn the true meaning of “the American people becoming alienated.”
When the Occupy movement turns into cities burning and Obama has to call out the national guard and order ’em to shoot their own wives and children, alienation will attain a whole new level of significance. The end of unsustainable regimes starts to become apparent when the the elites are forced to order the security forces to shoot and beat and imprison their own wives and children who are demonstrating in the streets…
lol
In case any of you missed Perry’s epic implosion.
mclaren
@Omnes Omnibus:
One microscopic sand-grain added to the cosmological vastness of what you don’t know.
When mathematicians seek sets so big that they dwarf transfinite numbers, they will find themselves forced to cite “What Omnes Omnibus doesn’t know.”
Brian S
@lol: That was indeed brilliant.
It just struck me that all the crazies are getting a chance to lead the race except Ron Paul. I wonder what Paulites are thinking at this point, or if their faith holds strong that he’ll be able to pull it out once people start voting?
mclaren
@lol:
I’m sorry, but you’ll have to be a little more specific. Which one of Perry’s epic implosions? The speech he gave when he was drunk? His fumbling bumbling stumbling bungling performance at the last debate? His suggestion a few years ago that Texas should secede from the Union?
We have to know which epic implosion you’re talking about. That latest YouTube clip you linked to is just one among so many…
“Perry’s epic implosion” is like “the allegation that Herman Cain sexually harrassed a woman,” it’s a very large set.
Caz
Where do you get that the debates are slowly alienating American voters?? That’s totally false. The debates are giving American voters (the few that are actually watching them, lol) a chance to distinguish the R candidates from one another. The BS allegations against Cain haven’t hurt him, and he will be a formidable opponent for Obama. And since Obama has to run on an actual record this time instead of just hopes and dreams, he will lose to a candidate with small govt policies, like Cain.
I will admit though that no matter how poorly Obama is doing as president, he will always get plenty of votes from groups that will vote D no matter what: unions, minorities, lifetime liberals, teachers, and all the Pauls that the govt is giving Peter’s money to after robbing Peter. That’s a pretty big conglomerate voting block for Obama that is locked in no matter what he does as prez.
But I don’t see Obama beating a legit R candidate like Cain with unemployment so high, no economic recovery in sight, housing market in the crapper, and waste/fraud/abuse rampant in the govt.
I know in this little Buffoon-Juice echo chamber, things seem peachy, but in the real world, people are not happy with the current leadership and are itching to get a new point of view in the White House. Obama is in trouble if Cain wins the nomination.
You all ought to be rooting for Bachmann, Newt, or Perry to win the nod. If Romney or Cain wins it, Obama is out.
Surreal American
@Caz:
As a troll, you’re an improvement over Reality Check. That’s not saying much, though.
Shalimar
@Caz: Cain is over. He has no chance. As for Romney, I think there is serious doubt over whether he is for or against being elected president. He might not be running on election day.
amk
@Caz: May your words come true and cain is your nominee. 420 EV’s guaranteed and we retake house and increase senate majority. Please keep pushing for cain.
handy
@Caz:
Cain is an amateur. He’s never gotten in this far in any run for public office and it’s showing. He’s not lasting past New Hampshire (assuming he even hangs in that long).
Caz
Please explain what makes me a troll? I’ve been reading the blogs on this site for a long time and I regularly comment. Am I a troll just because I’m the lone voice of disagreement here? At what point am I no longer a troll? How many posts must I participate in to not be a troll?
I have a feeling that I’m a troll merely because I disagree with you. And by “you,” I mean every single person who posts comments or blogs on here other than me, since it appears that I’m the only non-card carrying member of the socialist party that ever comments.
Someone please define troll for me, and tell me what it takes for me to not be a troll anymore.
Not that I mind being a troll, whatever the hell that means anyway, but I’m just curious how I get past being a troll.
AxelFoley
@mclaren:
Damn, you’re an annoying fuckwit. You and that other fuckwit Caz.
TenguPhule
I root for a mclaren & Caz Wetsuit dildo murder suicide.
HarlequinGnoll
Newtmentum sounds like one of the heavy metals…the kind that are cancer risks.
Ian
@mclaren:
Pass the crack, homes.
Ian
@amk:
And you pass the pot, i’m jonesing
Ian
@Caz:
Kinda gave you away
The last example is hypothetical, and the other four groups sound like some cool people.