As a former life-long Penn State fan, all I can say is – GO STANFORD!
And I hope Nebraska kicks Penn State’s ass!
3.
Trainrunner
The Nittany Lions are hoping that Nebraska’s front line is young and inexperienced enough to penetrate easily.
Don’t blame me.
4.
JPL
John, Did you watch the opening of the Penn State/Nebraska game?
5.
Robin G.
Obviously, everyone’s wondering if there’s going to be some horrible drama at PSU. My money’s all on it being the most lackluster, depressed game anyone’s ever seen.
“I call it flyspecking. Every word I say now is going to be flyspecked by somebody, and somebody who does not support Herman Cain, they’re going to try to spin it into a negative.”
Sometimes, life in the USofA seems more like a trip to Mars and back. Where all the clowns speak in third person about themselves. Seems to me, an opportune time to go full Galt and just listen to Christmas Carols on the sat radio.
7.
Kathleen
John – do you root for the Mountaineers?
8.
huckster
I cannot believe these words are coming out of my mouth..
Morbid curiosity drove me to check in on the Nebraska versus Penn State game. Two quarters in, and the announcers are still full-bore into Paterno hagiography. It made me feel ill.
@burnspbesq: save a child, save a family, do good deeds that will gladden the hearts of men….
15.
Violet
@Joel:
I watched the stuff at the start of the game. The young man in Penn State gear who was checking his phone during the moment of silence for the victims was a nice touch. Seriously. Who thinks the right thing to do is to check their phone during a moment of silence for child victims of sexual assault? Asshat.
The company behind the film Atlas Shrugged Part 1 is replacing 100,000 title sheets from the film’s newly released DVD and Blue Ray versions because the copy writer incorrectly described the late Ayn Rand’s 1957 novel, Atlas Shrugged, as a story of “self-sacrifice.”
19.
Mark B.
Texas is looking pretty crappy without Fozzy.
20.
Jamie
In honor of all that is football, I will not rape a child in the shower today.
21.
Mr Stagger Lee
Harvard is playing Penn on Versus for all of you snobs.
22.
grandpa john
personally I am watching my alma mater Clemson,trying to win the a divisional title.
23.
maya
Nebraska versus Penn State? Good lordy! The post-Paterno dream matchup: Cornhuskers vs Cornholers.
24.
Vico
Frankly, Penn State should not have chosen an interim president who, at a glance, looks like Sandusky. And ESPN should stop running his statement.
You may want to do all your Christmas shopping at Nordstrom’s. They officially announced that they will NOT be piping in Christmas music until after Thxgiving.
Sheeyit, I am so old that I can actually remember when NOBODY started Christmas until after Thxgiving.
I don’t either. And I live within easy walking distance from one. All that seems to accomplish is snarling traffic and artificially inflating property values.
This is nothing college football related, but screw jalipenos and screw dicing them and touching your eyes. If there was a god he would have banned this.
32.
Mark B.
Mizzou beats Texas. Ugh, didn’t see that coming. Ash is good at handing off the ball, not much else. They need a quarterback.
33.
Gex
@J.W. Hamner: That, and childbirth, ought to close the case against Intelligent Design
34.
JPL
I read that if Penn State wins, the team plans on giving Joe Paterno the football. Go Nebraska!
Harvard is playing Penn on Versus for all of you snobs.
Fight Fiercely, Harvard!
Fight, Fight, fight!
Demonstrate to them our skill.
Albeit they possess the might,
Nonetheless we have the will.
How we shall celebrate our victory:
We shall invite the whole team
Up for tea! How jolly!
Hurl that spheroid down the field
And Fight! Fight! Fight!
Anyone here a Nebraska fan? Just following casually, I’ve picked up the feeling that, compared to the entire population of football coaches (a very large caveat), I like Bo Pellini. Have I just not paid enough attention?
@Geoduck: Well, yeah, but my Gophers almost beat USC in Los Angeles. How good can they possibly be?
40.
Moonbatting Average
John Cole is jumping around in his living room right now. WVU blocks last-seconds field goal by Cincy.
41.
Moonbatting Average
So TAMU/K-State streaming is blocked in Austin, but Mich/Ill isn’t? WTF? At least since the Horns lost, I should be able to (hopefully) watch the Aggies lose also.
Word. I live less than two miles from a lovely mall, and I still endeavor to set foot in it no more than three times a year or so. Hate. People.
Mr. Suzanne just got an educational grant for an iPad, and he wants a keyboard case for it. I was looking at getting him the Zaggfolio, but I can’t tell if the thing folds all the way back. Any advice, Juicers?
@cathyx: Nooooo! Then I’d get stuck behind groups of slow-moving people idly wandering in my way, and I’d probably give in to my temptation and eat a carbo-loaded soft pretzel.
USC almost took down Stanford, which is one of the best teams in the country right now. (Stanford trampled the Huskies into a fine paste and spread it evenly over the field.)
46.
Amanda in the South Bay
I’m somewhat fascinated by the Oregon-Stanford game today. As an OSU alum, I am genetically conditioned to root for ANYONE over Oregon, but OTOH, fuck rich ass Palo Alto and Stanford. So hard to choose.
47.
scav
@suzanne: whooo, reading a little fast there and I got “carbon-loaded soft pretzel” and thought cannibalism would be an extreme (albeit not entirely unexpected) reaction to being in a mall.
Classic. The Gophers score a touchdown on a fake field goal and then miss the extra point. Guh.
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gelfling545
@eemom: I would if there was one nearby. Some local & national stores are opening at midnight. I, for one, will not patronize them AT ALL during the holidays. (This means you, Target.)
And everybody knows that you just don’t play any holiday music until after Santa arrives at the Macy’s parade.It’s just WRONG.
52.
Violet
@gelfling545:
I feel bad for the poor folks stuck working at stores that are opening at midnight on Thanksgiving – well, technically the Friday after, I guess. That’s all kinds of wrong. How are you supposed to enjoy your post-turkey food coma if you know you have to get up and work the night shift in a few hours? I’ve even heard some stores are opening at 10:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving. That’s even worse.
The whole thing is stupid. Stores should let everyone have the full day off. Thanksgiving is a day for giving thanks. And it’s not a religious holiday, so everyone gets to celebrate. Let the people have a day off. But nooooo…greedy corporations have to worship at the altar of money so much that they f*ck their employees by making them open the stores on Thanksgiving itself. It’s not the like CEO and higher-level executives are going to be there working. Ugh.
Only if the purple and piss face inglorious defeat.
So, you’re glued to the screen, eh?
54.
Yutsano
@Geoduck: Only because TCU found a chink in Boise’s armor and has been exploiting it. Halftime adjustments will be key here or it’ll be a long day in Idaho.
55.
G
I’m not a Georgia fan, just rooting for them to win the SEC title game and make the BCS bowl system look even more stupid again this year.
Having them beat LSU in the SEC title game would be most entertaining as the BCS scrambles to sort it out between the SEC and three unbeatens, including BSU smurfs who beat Georgia this year.
Since I hate the BCS, I root for chaos. In light on the Penn State revelations, the hiding the fact that your players traded swag for ink seems pretty small potatos for Ohio State.
I do wish Penn State had handled child rape as seriously as Army once handled cheating…
West Point cheating scandal
On 1951-04-02 Harkins, commandant of cadets and head of the tactical department at West Point, was informed by a first class cadet that a classmate had told him that there was a group of cadets, mainly among the football team, who were involved in a cheating ring.[5]
Harkins had made it plain that he felt that the nationally ranked football team was not in line with his vision of the USMA. In a controversial decision, he asked cadets to gather information about the cheating; eventually a formal inquiry was held and ninety cadets were dismissed from the academy, some of those had not participated in the cheating but knew of it and had not reported it, which was considered a breach of the Cadet Honor Code (A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do).
The head coach for Army at that time, Earl “Red” Blaik, felt that Harkins was “a black and white man with no shades of gray” and accused him of bias. Blaik’s son was one of the cadets who knew of the cheating but had not acted.[2]
Had an “American Heritage” girl stop by selling chocolates. No idea who they were, so – to the Google! An alternative to secular organizations such as the Girl Scouts.
__
Query: Have the Girl Scouts become known for getting knocked up and/or knocking over liquor stores or something?
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MikeJ
@Ben Cisco (mobile): I’d never heard of them either. According to wikipedia, GSA isn’t bigoted enough for them.
Making them doubly sickening is their conflation of “christian” with “American”. Pretty vile stuff to feed little kids.
@G: Reminds me of Jim Wacker turning in his own program for cheating while he was at TCU, and then being surprised when he was run out of town.
Wacker was overmatched as a coach when he was here at Minnesota, but that’s the only bad thing I’ll ever say about the guy. I really wish I could be the sort of optimistic, happy individual. When he was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, his response was to say that God wanted him to be an example of how to die with dignity and in good spirits.
I miss him. There probably aren’t a lot of Gopher fans who will say that, but I do.
The whole thing is stupid. Stores should let everyone have the full day off. Thanksgiving is a day for giving thanks. And it’s not a religious holiday, so everyone gets to celebrate. Let the people have a day off. But nooooo…greedy corporations have to worship at the altar of money so much that they f*ck their employees by making them open the stores on Thanksgiving itself. It’s not the like CEO and higher-level executives are going to be there working. Ugh.
To be fair, I’ve known people who said that “Hey It’s Friday Let’s Go Shopping” activities were the only way they could get through a four-day weekend with the extended family that didn’t end up on the local news as a gory murder-suicide…
61.
Yutsano
@Anne Laurie: Also too: the day after Thanksgiving is NOT a federal holiday. So federal offices are open and operating as normal. I just got lucky in getting that day off this year when I requested it.
62.
befuggled
I worked for a small hosting company and we didn’t get that day off until I’d been there for eight years. To be fair, considering how many of our customers had ecommerce problems the day after Thanksgiving, I would have wound up working anyway most years.
I don’t know if baseball is a gateway drug or what, because I’m kind of wishing I had cable so I could watch the Stanford/Oregon game. This, coming from someone who went to exactly one Stanford football game in four years there, and that was only because I was doing sound work for one of my film professors.
64.
Raven
woof woof bitches
65.
Villago Delenda Est
OK, still a quarter to go, but the Fashion Nightmares seem to have an edge on the Robber Barons.
@J. Michael Neal:
the whole “tolerate people who do” thing catches me… my dad went to west point…. (oddly so did a brother in law)
me, without getting into detail, I had people get really piseed at me for “not tolerating” some stuff.
I still root for BCS chaos, though sadly, both Stanford and BSU lost, so it’s an OKS and LSU dance right now.
Damn LBJ was president the last time Paterno wasn’t head coach at Penn State. By a year or two. Christ I hope coach K at Duke hasn’t been harboring some dude who gets off by killing pregnant women, ’cause really that’s about how bad it’s gotta be to be worse than Penn State.
68.
alhutch
@Amanda in the South Bay: As a Corvallis bred Duck alum, I know what you mean. But you should try and get past it. The Beavers really suck this year.
69.
CarolDuhart2
@G: You’re right about being that bad. If it goes the way these things seem to go, we are just beginning to scratch the surface with Penn State. Sandusky’s charity started back in 1977, and his coaching career was even earlier. There may well be 50 and 60 year olds with stories to tell, and a lifetime of therapy bills to pay for. With his tremendous access to kids, far beyond the usual neighborhood creep, he could well have victims far and wide, and as the 2002 incident shows, he could operate with near impunity-and the fact that he felt no anxiety using the Penn State showers-no telling how far he went with some victims.
Penn State may well not have a football program anymore by the time everything gets revealed. For one thing, who wants to try to coach in what will be a massively toxic environment, with an entirely new staff, with advertisers at best on a week-by-week basis evaluating the situation? If you were a player? What about fundraising?
Christ I hope coach K at Duke hasn’t been harboring some dude who gets off by killing pregnant women
K has three daughters, so I don’t think there would be any harboring of such folks. I find it a little creepy that one of his daughters married a guy who was captain of the West Point basketball team (just like daddy), but otherwise the K family is straight out of 1950s TV shows.
I think having kids seems to confer no immunity or inherent resistance to putting the institution’s rep ahead of dealing with a scandal prone well placed subordinate.
Mind you, Penn State took SOME steps to isolate Sandusky, but the were pretty half-hearted in retrospect.
OTOH, Coach K has this legendary rep that must be preserved, just like Joe Pa, which is the prime condition needed for this sort of thing to happen.
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c u n d gulag
As a former life-long Penn State fan, all I can say is – GO STANFORD!
And I hope Nebraska kicks Penn State’s ass!
Trainrunner
The Nittany Lions are hoping that Nebraska’s front line is young and inexperienced enough to penetrate easily.
Don’t blame me.
JPL
John, Did you watch the opening of the Penn State/Nebraska game?
Robin G.
Obviously, everyone’s wondering if there’s going to be some horrible drama at PSU. My money’s all on it being the most lackluster, depressed game anyone’s ever seen.
General Stuck
Blah
can’t get enthused about any sports right now. And if any of you fuck wit me, I will “flyspeck” yer happy arse.
Sometimes, life in the USofA seems more like a trip to Mars and back. Where all the clowns speak in third person about themselves. Seems to me, an opportune time to go full Galt and just listen to Christmas Carols on the sat radio.
Kathleen
John – do you root for the Mountaineers?
huckster
I cannot believe these words are coming out of my mouth..
go GATORS!!
burnspbesq
@General Stuck:
You asked for it.
Calipari cheats. He has cheated everywhere he has been. It’s only a matter of time before he gets caught.
Eat, drink, and be merry while you can, because a long and painful probation awaits.
burnspbesq
International breaks suck. No football today. And the only gridiron fixture that matters isn’t until 5:00 Pacific time.
What to do, what to do …
General Stuck
There are many things more important than sports. If those that cheat, get caught, more the better, wherever.
Yutsano
@burnspbesq:
Fiddle? :)
Joel
Morbid curiosity drove me to check in on the Nebraska versus Penn State game. Two quarters in, and the announcers are still full-bore into Paterno hagiography. It made me feel ill.
piratedan
@burnspbesq: save a child, save a family, do good deeds that will gladden the hearts of men….
Violet
@Joel:
I watched the stuff at the start of the game. The young man in Penn State gear who was checking his phone during the moment of silence for the victims was a nice touch. Seriously. Who thinks the right thing to do is to check their phone during a moment of silence for child victims of sexual assault? Asshat.
jurassicpork
Fox News At Its Finest, Part XV: Supersized Occupy Wall Street edition, now with over 100% more captions and 50% more snarky commentary.
Moonbatting Average
Oklahoma State is up 42-0 with 5 minutes to go in the first half! Good grief!
srv
Ha ha!
Mark B.
Texas is looking pretty crappy without Fozzy.
Jamie
In honor of all that is football, I will not rape a child in the shower today.
Mr Stagger Lee
Harvard is playing Penn on Versus for all of you snobs.
grandpa john
personally I am watching my alma mater Clemson,trying to win the a divisional title.
maya
Nebraska versus Penn State? Good lordy! The post-Paterno dream matchup: Cornhuskers vs Cornholers.
Vico
Frankly, Penn State should not have chosen an interim president who, at a glance, looks like Sandusky. And ESPN should stop running his statement.
chopper
@Trainrunner:
tight ends, wide receivers etc etc.
huckster
@huckster: stupid moderation
MikeJ
@burnspbesq:
He did get Tiger High caught when he was in Memphis, but he had already left I think and nothing got pinned on him.
eemom
@efgoldman:
You may want to do all your Christmas shopping at Nordstrom’s. They officially announced that they will NOT be piping in Christmas music until after Thxgiving.
Sheeyit, I am so old that I can actually remember when NOBODY started Christmas until after Thxgiving.
Yutsano
@efgoldman:
I don’t either. And I live within easy walking distance from one. All that seems to accomplish is snarling traffic and artificially inflating property values.
huckster
God the Fla Gators are terrible
J.W. Hamner
This is nothing college football related, but screw jalipenos and screw dicing them and touching your eyes. If there was a god he would have banned this.
Mark B.
Mizzou beats Texas. Ugh, didn’t see that coming. Ash is good at handing off the ball, not much else. They need a quarterback.
Gex
@J.W. Hamner: That, and childbirth, ought to close the case against Intelligent Design
JPL
I read that if Penn State wins, the team plans on giving Joe Paterno the football. Go Nebraska!
Geoduck
@Mr Stagger Lee:
Fight Fiercely, Harvard!
Fight, Fight, fight!
Demonstrate to them our skill.
Albeit they possess the might,
Nonetheless we have the will.
How we shall celebrate our victory:
We shall invite the whole team
Up for tea! How jolly!
Hurl that spheroid down the field
And Fight! Fight! Fight!
J. Michael Neal
Anyone here a Nebraska fan? Just following casually, I’ve picked up the feeling that, compared to the entire population of football coaches (a very large caveat), I like Bo Pellini. Have I just not paid enough attention?
Ben Cisco (mobile)
Local station started in with the Christmas music. LAST WEEK.
Geoduck
@efgoldman:
As another WA stater, probably not. The Huskies are so much better than they were a couple years back, but they still aren’t that good.
J. Michael Neal
@Geoduck: Well, yeah, but my Gophers almost beat USC in Los Angeles. How good can they possibly be?
Moonbatting Average
John Cole is jumping around in his living room right now. WVU blocks last-seconds field goal by Cincy.
Moonbatting Average
So TAMU/K-State streaming is blocked in Austin, but Mich/Ill isn’t? WTF? At least since the Horns lost, I should be able to (hopefully) watch the Aggies lose also.
suzanne
@efgoldman:
Word. I live less than two miles from a lovely mall, and I still endeavor to set foot in it no more than three times a year or so. Hate. People.
Mr. Suzanne just got an educational grant for an iPad, and he wants a keyboard case for it. I was looking at getting him the Zaggfolio, but I can’t tell if the thing folds all the way back. Any advice, Juicers?
cathyx
@suzanne: Go to the mall and see one in person.
suzanne
@cathyx: Nooooo! Then I’d get stuck behind groups of slow-moving people idly wandering in my way, and I’d probably give in to my temptation and eat a carbo-loaded soft pretzel.
Geoduck
@J. Michael Neal:
USC almost took down Stanford, which is one of the best teams in the country right now. (Stanford trampled the Huskies into a fine paste and spread it evenly over the field.)
Amanda in the South Bay
I’m somewhat fascinated by the Oregon-Stanford game today. As an OSU alum, I am genetically conditioned to root for ANYONE over Oregon, but OTOH, fuck rich ass Palo Alto and Stanford. So hard to choose.
scav
@suzanne: whooo, reading a little fast there and I got “carbon-loaded soft pretzel” and thought cannibalism would be an extreme (albeit not entirely unexpected) reaction to being in a mall.
Huzzah for official out! of Bungasconi!
Yutsano
@suzanne:
The Cinnabons call you. You must give in. Resistance is futile.
@efgoldman: Meh. Only if the purple and piss face inglorious defeat. Otherwise I’d read a book.
gbear
@cathyx:
I lol’ed. That was the first advice that came to my mind too.
J. Michael Neal
Classic. The Gophers score a touchdown on a fake field goal and then miss the extra point. Guh.
gelfling545
@eemom: I would if there was one nearby. Some local & national stores are opening at midnight. I, for one, will not patronize them AT ALL during the holidays. (This means you, Target.)
And everybody knows that you just don’t play any holiday music until after Santa arrives at the Macy’s parade.It’s just WRONG.
Violet
@gelfling545:
I feel bad for the poor folks stuck working at stores that are opening at midnight on Thanksgiving – well, technically the Friday after, I guess. That’s all kinds of wrong. How are you supposed to enjoy your post-turkey food coma if you know you have to get up and work the night shift in a few hours? I’ve even heard some stores are opening at 10:00 p.m. on Thanksgiving. That’s even worse.
The whole thing is stupid. Stores should let everyone have the full day off. Thanksgiving is a day for giving thanks. And it’s not a religious holiday, so everyone gets to celebrate. Let the people have a day off. But nooooo…greedy corporations have to worship at the altar of money so much that they f*ck their employees by making them open the stores on Thanksgiving itself. It’s not the like CEO and higher-level executives are going to be there working. Ugh.
Geoduck
@Yutsano:
So, you’re glued to the screen, eh?
Yutsano
@Geoduck: Only because TCU found a chink in Boise’s armor and has been exploiting it. Halftime adjustments will be key here or it’ll be a long day in Idaho.
G
I’m not a Georgia fan, just rooting for them to win the SEC title game and make the BCS bowl system look even more stupid again this year.
Having them beat LSU in the SEC title game would be most entertaining as the BCS scrambles to sort it out between the SEC and three unbeatens, including BSU smurfs who beat Georgia this year.
Since I hate the BCS, I root for chaos. In light on the Penn State revelations, the hiding the fact that your players traded swag for ink seems pretty small potatos for Ohio State.
I do wish Penn State had handled child rape as seriously as Army once handled cheating…
West Point cheating scandal
On 1951-04-02 Harkins, commandant of cadets and head of the tactical department at West Point, was informed by a first class cadet that a classmate had told him that there was a group of cadets, mainly among the football team, who were involved in a cheating ring.[5]
Harkins had made it plain that he felt that the nationally ranked football team was not in line with his vision of the USMA. In a controversial decision, he asked cadets to gather information about the cheating; eventually a formal inquiry was held and ninety cadets were dismissed from the academy, some of those had not participated in the cheating but knew of it and had not reported it, which was considered a breach of the Cadet Honor Code (A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do).
The head coach for Army at that time, Earl “Red” Blaik, felt that Harkins was “a black and white man with no shades of gray” and accused him of bias. Blaik’s son was one of the cadets who knew of the cheating but had not acted.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_D._Harkins#West_Point_cheating_scandal
Ben Cisco (mobile)
Had an “American Heritage” girl stop by selling chocolates. No idea who they were, so – to the Google! An alternative to secular organizations such as the Girl Scouts.
__
Query: Have the Girl Scouts become known for getting knocked up and/or knocking over liquor stores or something?
MikeJ
@Ben Cisco (mobile): I’d never heard of them either. According to wikipedia, GSA isn’t bigoted enough for them.
Making them doubly sickening is their conflation of “christian” with “American”. Pretty vile stuff to feed little kids.
J. Michael Neal
@Ben Cisco (mobile):
Worse. They tolerate gays, and even let them be a part of the organization.
J. Michael Neal
@G: Reminds me of Jim Wacker turning in his own program for cheating while he was at TCU, and then being surprised when he was run out of town.
Wacker was overmatched as a coach when he was here at Minnesota, but that’s the only bad thing I’ll ever say about the guy. I really wish I could be the sort of optimistic, happy individual. When he was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, his response was to say that God wanted him to be an example of how to die with dignity and in good spirits.
I miss him. There probably aren’t a lot of Gopher fans who will say that, but I do.
Anne Laurie
@Violet:
To be fair, I’ve known people who said that “Hey It’s Friday Let’s Go Shopping” activities were the only way they could get through a four-day weekend with the extended family that didn’t end up on the local news as a gory murder-suicide…
Yutsano
@Anne Laurie: Also too: the day after Thanksgiving is NOT a federal holiday. So federal offices are open and operating as normal. I just got lucky in getting that day off this year when I requested it.
befuggled
I worked for a small hosting company and we didn’t get that day off until I’d been there for eight years. To be fair, considering how many of our customers had ecommerce problems the day after Thanksgiving, I would have wound up working anyway most years.
Darkrose
I don’t know if baseball is a gateway drug or what, because I’m kind of wishing I had cable so I could watch the Stanford/Oregon game. This, coming from someone who went to exactly one Stanford football game in four years there, and that was only because I was doing sound work for one of my film professors.
Raven
woof woof bitches
Villago Delenda Est
OK, still a quarter to go, but the Fashion Nightmares seem to have an edge on the Robber Barons.
tesslibrarian
@Raven: Damn Straight. It was beautiful.
G
@J. Michael Neal:
the whole “tolerate people who do” thing catches me… my dad went to west point…. (oddly so did a brother in law)
me, without getting into detail, I had people get really piseed at me for “not tolerating” some stuff.
I still root for BCS chaos, though sadly, both Stanford and BSU lost, so it’s an OKS and LSU dance right now.
Damn LBJ was president the last time Paterno wasn’t head coach at Penn State. By a year or two. Christ I hope coach K at Duke hasn’t been harboring some dude who gets off by killing pregnant women, ’cause really that’s about how bad it’s gotta be to be worse than Penn State.
alhutch
@Amanda in the South Bay: As a Corvallis bred Duck alum, I know what you mean. But you should try and get past it. The Beavers really suck this year.
CarolDuhart2
@G: You’re right about being that bad. If it goes the way these things seem to go, we are just beginning to scratch the surface with Penn State. Sandusky’s charity started back in 1977, and his coaching career was even earlier. There may well be 50 and 60 year olds with stories to tell, and a lifetime of therapy bills to pay for. With his tremendous access to kids, far beyond the usual neighborhood creep, he could well have victims far and wide, and as the 2002 incident shows, he could operate with near impunity-and the fact that he felt no anxiety using the Penn State showers-no telling how far he went with some victims.
Penn State may well not have a football program anymore by the time everything gets revealed. For one thing, who wants to try to coach in what will be a massively toxic environment, with an entirely new staff, with advertisers at best on a week-by-week basis evaluating the situation? If you were a player? What about fundraising?
burnspbesq
@G:
K has three daughters, so I don’t think there would be any harboring of such folks. I find it a little creepy that one of his daughters married a guy who was captain of the West Point basketball team (just like daddy), but otherwise the K family is straight out of 1950s TV shows.
Villago Delenda Est
@burnspbesq:
Yet, how many sons does Paterno have?
I think having kids seems to confer no immunity or inherent resistance to putting the institution’s rep ahead of dealing with a scandal prone well placed subordinate.
Mind you, Penn State took SOME steps to isolate Sandusky, but the were pretty half-hearted in retrospect.
OTOH, Coach K has this legendary rep that must be preserved, just like Joe Pa, which is the prime condition needed for this sort of thing to happen.