Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

The snowflake in chief appeared visibly frustrated when questioned by a reporter about egg prices.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

The current Supreme Court is a dangerous, rogue court.

The low info voters probably won’t even notice or remember by their next lap around the goldfish bowl.

Let me file that under fuck it.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

The gop is a fucking disgrace.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

The real work of an opposition party is to oppose.

Republican also-rans: four mules fighting over a turnip.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

The fight for our country is always worth it. ~Kamala Harris

We know you aren’t a Democrat but since you seem confused let me help you.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Oppose, oppose, oppose. do not congratulate. this is not business as usual.

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  2. 2.

    Brachiator

    After eating turkey and leftovers for every meal since Thursday, I am so excited to eat tacos tonight that I am salivating.

    Turkey tacos?

  8. 8.

    srv

    I’m thinking pizza, the taqueria is just too far to walk.

    And I have seen the future: Popeye’s Fried Turkey. You could have Martha running your kitchen, and she can’t touch it. Just order it next year.

  10. 10.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    @Eric S.: So, you’re saying Cole should get married so he doesn’t have to eat turkey for a week each year?

  11. 11.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    @Eric S.: So, you’re saying Cole should get married so he doesn’t have to eat turkey for a week each year?

  15. 15.

    schrodinger's cat

    I thought Tunch and the doggies would have helped you finish the turkey earlier. Photograph of the Tunchster would be greatly appreciated.

  17. 17.

    RossinDetroit

    Other option: vegetarianism. Although I still have a third of a pumpkin cake to make my way through. The first third was pretty tasty, but…

  18. 18.

    lamh35

    Is there another debate between now and the Iowa caucuses?

    Former GOP Rep. Says Gingrich Is ‘An Evil Person’ |

    Former Rep. Guy Molinari (R-NY) unloaded on GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich today, calling the former House Speaker “an evil person” who has “got all kinds of baggage.” Molinari, who works on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, went on to say that “The thought that [Gingrich] could be president of the United States is appalling.” Far from the only Republican trashing the former House speaker, conservatives of all stripes have publicly grumbled about Gingrich’s record. In the last week alone, radio host Don Imus called Gingrich a “greasy, repulsive man,” longtime Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) tweeted, “RReagan was a friend of mine and you Newt are no RR,” and a Christian leader in Iowa, Cary Gordon, said, “Newt is famous for being all over the board,” before declaring, “I don’t trust him.”

  20. 20.

    Walker

    Tonight was also our first turkey-free meal. My wife made kaszanka. Pork blood sausage, Cracow-style; yum.

  36. 36.

    schrodinger's cat

    @cathyx: I think its his color, adds 10 pounds on the camera, black would be more slimming, or if he had the same color head to tail. So John could either paint his torso orange or his tail white, or all of Tunch in black.

  37. 37.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    I see in the local news that Facebook is moving from Palo Alto out to Menlo Park closer to the Bay. What this means is that they are moving to someplace that is totally inaccessible via public transit. I know where I live in Sunnyvale there’s a ton of empty office buildings along the VTA light rail.I’m sure they’ll have employee shuttles to/from Caltrain, but still, I wish companies would be more progressive in this regard.

  39. 39.

    Steeplejack

    Had pizza last night. As a Thanksgiving guest, rather than host, I had fewer leftovers to go through.

    Today in the grocery I saw a lonely jar of Crosse & Blackwell mincemeat, which I think am going to use to try to duplicate my mother’s mincemeat tarts. I grilled her on her technique over Thanksgiving and think I now have enough information to move forward.

  40. 40.

    Svensker

    @Raven:

    Turkey gumbo? Now that is a good idea! I usually make a turkey meatball soup with jalapenos and stuff, but you can’t get ground turkey in this part of Canukistan. But I got a freezer full o’ okra and a big tub of turkey broth…. Yes!

  41. 41.

    Veritas

    The Great Global Warming Fizzle

    How do religions die? Generally they don’t, which probably explains why there’s so little literature on the subject. Zoroastrianism, for instance, lost many of its sacred texts when Alexander sacked Persepolis in 330 B.C., and most Zoroastrians converted to Islam over 1,000 years ago. Yet today old Zoroaster still counts as many as 210,000 followers, including 11,000 in the U.S. Christopher Hitchens might say you can’t kill what wasn’t there to begin with.

    Still, Zeus and Apollo are no longer with us, and neither are Odin and Thor. Among the secular gods, Marx is mostly dead and Freud is totally so. Something did away with them, and it’s worth asking what.

    Consider the case of global warming, another system of doomsaying prophecy and faith in things unseen.

    …

    The U.S., Russia, Japan, Canada and the EU have all but confirmed they won’t be signing on to a new Kyoto. The Chinese and Indians won’t make a move unless the West does. The notion that rich (or formerly rich) countries are going to ship $100 billion every year to the Micronesias of the world is risible, especially after they’ve spent it all on Greece.

    Cap and trade is a dead letter in the U.S. Even Europe is having second thoughts about carbon-reduction targets that are decimating the continent’s heavy industries and cost an estimated $67 billion a year. “Green” technologies have all proved expensive, environmentally hazardous and wildly unpopular duds.

    All this has been enough to put the Durban political agenda on hold for the time being. But religions don’t die, and often thrive, when put to the political sidelines. A religion, when not physically extinguished, only dies when it loses faith in itself.

    BTW, gotta love how this article was written on a day when the south gets hammered by a NOVEMBER snow storm!

    RealityCheck

  42. 42.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    BTW for anyone battling the lunatic birfers anywhere in the nation, please refer them to this

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/74176180/Qualifications-for-President-and-the-%E2%80%9CNatural-Born%E2%80%9D-Citizenship-Eligibility-Requirement

    It says what we sane people knew it would say, but it does it brilliantly and takes on the birfers bullshit talking points one by one by a rather brilliant lawyer from the Congress Research Service. I would be interested to find out which Congresscritter requested the study (or staffer) but the bottom line is birfers heads are going to be asploading all over birfistan when they get a look at it.

    *snork*

  43. 43.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    @Steeplejack: I was lucky enough to score a six pack of Walkers Mince Pies at World Market last week. I cannot wait to have a couple with my Bird’s Instant Custard that Mum just brought over. I also got an individual portion of Christmas Pudding, I am saving that for Christmas Day.

  44. 44.

    Citizen_X

    @Veritas: You were concern-trolling all over the Sully thread about “Why does anybody give a shit?” about Sully’s Bell Curve pseudoscience obsession. Your anti-AGW pseudoscience obsession, as well as the pseudoscience obsessions of the creationists, and of the anti-vaxxers, is why we give a shit. It’s not just the Klansmen hyping The Bell Curve.

  45. 45.

    Cat Lady

    Today is the 10th anniversary of George Harrison’s death. I can’t believe it’s been that long, and it’s one of those famous people deaths that really really got to me. I miss him. He was always my favorite Beatle from day one of my little girl consciousness of who they were. He had that dark brooding spiritual thing that just does it for me.

    Beware of Darkness

    Beware of greedy leaders
    They take you where you should not go

  46. 46.

    Quicksand

    @Amanda in the South Bay:

    I see in the local news that Facebook is moving from Palo Alto out to Menlo Park closer to the Bay. What this means is that they are moving to someplace that is totally inaccessible via public transit. I know where I live in Sunnyvale there’s a ton of empty office buildings along the VTA light rail.I’m sure they’ll have employee shuttles to/from Caltrain, but still, I wish companies would be more progressive in this regard.

    Yeah, the transit options aren’t good right now. But perhaps with a vibrant, growing company in that space, something like this might get a little more attention:

    http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=222095

  49. 49.

    4jkb4ia

    I have to admit that John Cole actually knew something, especially when the favorability/unfavorability gap went down the most in WV. All I would say is that those voters are not just watching the debates. They have been exposed to the other candidates more and have had a steady diet of Rush and Company telling them that Romney is unacceptable.

    And if Cain drops out of the race in the next week, I will happily also admit that he was a joke. Maybe not in the sense that John meant it at first though because, um, we know much more about his personal life now.

    Ostensible Topic: I have a great surplus of leftover chicken in the fridge but that is because I bought too much. I am not having it for dinner.

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    @Citizen_X:

    Not to mention trolling November snow (zut alors!) in at least two earlier threads. Rove must have issued the talking points and upped pay to a dime/post.

  51. 51.

    Cat Lady

    @trollhattan:

    I watched it rapt. What an interesting life and person. Olivia Harrison’s description of the moment of his death gave me full body goosebumps and gives me great comfort, weirdly. I have the DVD of the Albert Hall memorial tribute, and his son Dhani could be his clone. That was a wonderful film by Scorsese, and what he got people to reveal was awesome. Ringo’s pretty great.

  52. 52.

    Roger Moore

    @RossinDetroit:

    Other option: vegetarianism.

    This. Even though I’m an unrepentant meat eater, I like my sister’s vegetarian Thanksgiving more than any turkey containing version. If there’s a turkey, you wind up filling up on it and not having enough of the side dishes and dessert. Skipping the turkey leaves space to have all the different side dishes and still have space for half a dozen kinds of dessert. Score one for the vegetarians.

  54. 54.

    Citizen_X

    Here is a good article by Alex Wukman at Free Press Houston about the poisonous effects of our media’s Cult of Objectivity. It was occasioned by reports of how “local media” are still alive and kicking. He’s got a unique perspective on that, as he used to report on “an extremely conservative part of rural East Texas, ” where, he says,

    I had someone follow me for 60 miles across three counties because I asked questions suggesting that a middle school student may have been bullied to the point of suicide. I was insulted because I, as a man, had hair that went below my collar. High school students tried to pick fights with me because I drove a yellow car.

    He points out that part of this narrow-mindedness results from “objective” news editors killing stories about, say, gay teens, that are not “reflective of the community.” But as a result, communities miss a lot of stuff that’s critical to everybody:

    It came as a shock to many voters here in Texas when the state legislature met this year and stated that draconian cuts would be made to public education funding. This didn’t come as news to those who follow state politics; in fact cuts to education funding were expected over a year in advance. However, in all the coverage leading up to the Novemebr 2010 elections barely any mention was made in traditional news outlets of the impending financial difficulties that school districts across the state would be facing.
    __
    Despite the fact that Texas’ revenue shortfall has been built into the budget since 2006–very few newspapers, and almost no TV stations, mentioned that fact in the months leading up to the election.

    He says that editors are loathe to put events in context, partly because they’re trying to relentlessly narrowcast to their audience. But a lack of context can leave you blind. (“Greek debt? Why do I care?”)

  55. 55.

    trollhattan

    @Cat Lady:

    Completely agree. I too have the “Concert for George” vid, which I think is a wonderful celebration of his life, from Monte Python to the amazing performance by Norah Jones’ much less well known sister.

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    @4jkb4ia:

    From that article:

    You want to know the biggest reason Mitt Romney hasn’t surged at any point in the Republican Presidential race this year? It’s because the more GOP primary voters across the country have been exposed to him, the less they’ve liked him.

    You want to know the reason every leading candidate not named Mitt Romney has faded after a few weeks at the top of the GOP polls? It’s for exactly the same reason Romney hasn’t surged into the lead: because the more GOP primary voters across the country have been exposed to them, the less they’ve liked them. The only candidate who has a consistently fired up base is Ron Paul, and his base is small enough that he’s not going to win.

  57. 57.

    Veritas

    @Citizen_X:

    It doesn’t matter. There won’t be any new Kyoto. Carbon will continue to be burned in ever increasing quantities. Your little Climate Religion will shrink into irrelevance, so suck it.

  58. 58.

    Veritas

    @Citizen_X:

    It doesn’t matter. There won’t be any new Kyoto. Carbon will continue to be burned in ever increasing quantities. Your little Climate Religion will shrink into irrelevance, so suck it.

    RealityCheck

  60. 60.

    Citizen_X

    @Veritas:

    Carbon will continue to be burned in ever increasing quantities.

    Because there’s an infinite supply of fossil fuels, and the Earth’s atmosphere has an infinite ability to absorb carbon without affecting climate? Never mind science, that doesn’t even pass basic logic.

  61. 61.

    Veritas

    @Citizen_X:

    Tar sands, baby, Tar sands. BTW, the US also has a CENTURIES long supply of coal, as does China. That’s right–COAL, black, sooty, carbon-y COAL.

    RealityCheck

  62. 62.

    4jkb4ia

    @Roger Moore:

    Actually for Newt that is not true. His favorability was in the subbasement earlier in the year. We’ll see what the primary voters think of him as the frontrunner once they are given a few more weeks to mull it over.

    I guess I should also mention that Nate tweeted that Huntsman actually got 11% in one poll of NH and that could be very dangerous for Romney even if it doesn’t mean that Huntsman can win.

  67. 67.

    Citizen_X

    the US also has a CENTURIES long supply of coal, as does China

    We HAD a 2 – 5 century supply of coal, way back in 1975 (when the Senate commissioned a survey of coal supplies). Since then, coal use has continued to continually rise, doubling every 25 years or so. So, after a couple of doubling cycles, those “centuries” are reduced to mere decades.

    Your glee at this situation is perverse. This is not a game.

  68. 68.

    Veritas

    @Citizen_X:

    It’s not a game it’s a stupid, hairshirt religion. Not even Canada or Europe is playing along anymore. Face it, it’s over for your cult.

    RealityCheck

  69. 69.

    4jkb4ia

    Also, what have we had? We had the real possibility that Bachmann could win Iowa, but we didn’t have that real possibility in some of the other early states. Bachmann flamed out. The national Romney alternatives were Perry and Cain and each of them shot themselves in the foot. Newt has played this game long enough that if he shoots himself in the foot, the voters may have seen something like it before. But as I said in another comment, the media could get working on what Newt did when he was out of power and that could still hurt him.

  70. 70.

    Citizen_X

    @Veritas: You have not responded to any of the issues I mentioned at all. Instead, you continue in your puerile taunts, proving that this is just some juvenile game to you. I won’t waste my time any further.

  71. 71.

    burnspbesq

    RIP, Paul Motian, one of the great drummers in the history of jazz, who died last week at age 80.

  76. 76.

    Gravenstone

    @burnspbesq: Now be fair, the troll is kind enough to share his better known handle as his “tagline”. RC was never worth engaging under that name, so this iteration is also worth nothing more than mockery.

    And pie … sweet, sweet pie!

  77. 77.

    Joseph Nobles

    You may not be hungry for turkey, but how about horse?

    A controversy is gathering steam right now because the Agricultural Appropriations bill this year restored funding for inspectors of horse slaughter houses. This funding was eliminated back in 2006 with annual legislative language, but that language didn’t make it back into the bill this year. This was an effective ban on horse slaughter houses, because absent the inspectors, the slaughter couldn’t occur. So instead of bundling up your horse and shipping it to the nearest American slaughter house, you had to go to the trouble of shipping it to the nearest Mexican or Canadian slaughter house.

    However, the ag bill sans “ban on horse slaughter house inspector funding” became part of a conference report that also included language for preventing a partial government shutdown on Friday. So the whole thing was must-pass, Obama signed it, and you know what that means:

    Obama Legalizes Horse Slaughter For Human Consumption

    On November 18th, as the country was celebrating Thanksgiving, President Obama signed a law, allowing Americans to kill and eat horses. Essentially, one turkey was pardoned in the presence of worldwide media while in the shadows, buried under pages of fiscal regulation, millions of horses were sentenced to death.

    Thanksgiving was actually on November 24, but that’s a minor detail when OBAMA IS WORSE THAN BUSH HE SOLD US OUT.

    The thing is, the people against horse slaughter have some really good points. And the main Congress critter in the forefront of this issue is Jack Kingston of Georgia, and Georgia is one of the states cited as getting ready to have a horse slaughter facility open in the first link I posted. Kingston was also instrumental in getting the language dropped in the bill. I would be in favor of a permanent ban on horse slaughter, but there remains the real problem of humane disposal of dead and dying animals. It’s a thorny problem, I think the animal activists have the better side of the argument, but this irresponsible politicizing of the subject doesn’t do the subject any real good.

  78. 78.

    shano

    Joseph Nobles: I am a life long horseperson. I worked in the horse industry for 22 years. I agree with having horse slaughterhouses. It is even more inhumane to ship horses for slaughter to Mexico and Canada. it is terribly inhumane. I would rather these horses be killed locally under the same standards we use to slaughter cattle.

    If you do not know anything about animal husbandry, sure, banning the slaughter of horses seems to make sense. but it does not. these are domesticated animals and man will always be responsible for their care.

    Right now we have 40,000 + ‘wild’ horses in feedlots just wasting away under minimal care. The damage they do to the environment in the SW is horrendous. These herds need to be managed. We now pay a hell of a lot of money to shoot wild horses with slow release birth control in order to slow down the rate of population growth.

    The average life span of a truly ‘wild’ horse is 6 years, they die terrible deaths from parasites, various species of worms damage their internal organs and can even invade their brain. Even wild herds should have access to worm medication to have a chance of a good life.

    If we continue to allow ‘backyard’ breeders of horses- these horses who are raised on less than 5 acres of land, never develop correctly. They have terrible physical problems and the vast majority end up at slaughter. Backyard breeding should be banned.

    Until this is done, especially now, when people are dumping horses on state and federal land because they can no longer afford to feed them- we will continue to have too many horses and not enough homes. The fate of these horses is horrible, starvation, dying of thirst and death.

    It would be much better to slaughter these horses and feed people. i went to France and horsemeat is in every market. Of course, I could never eat horse meat, but it is more humane to have a good local facility under inspection than shipping them (in horrible conditions) thousands of miles to worse facilities.

  79. 79.

    CarolDuhart2

    @Jenny: Amazing, isn’t it? I’ve never recalled Democrats being so proactive before. Hitting them before there’s a nominee? Isn’t that Republican? Being strategic enough to try to get the ideal nominee for our side? I’m impressed.

    I always knew Obama’s folks knew what they were doing, and this may prove it. Obama isn’t even out there yet, and they are already working the refs, the voters. By the time the Republicans find a not-Romney, or Romney limps over the finish line, the Republican nomination will look like those prizes you win as sort of a farewell gift (“Let him win-he’s retiring anyway”)

  80. 80.

    HeartlandLiberal

    Best leftovers breakfast?

    My wife’s homemade dressing, made with southern style unsweetened white corn meal cornbread baked in an iron skillet, smothered in gravy, heated, with two over easy fried eggs on the side.

    My aging arteries tremble as they see it coming, but I figure a breakfast like that a couple of times a year is not going to do them in.

    Sheer gustatory Heaven.

  81. 81.

    ksmiami

    Last night baked wall-eye with rice pilaf and tonight spicy Thai food. I am soooo done with Thanksgiving food

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