Herman Cain will be here in Cincinnati this morning on the “campaign trail”, which apparently means “the slow, agonizing death of his run for President where everyone but Herman Cain himself admits it’s over.” His first stop this morning: Orange Julius country up in the northern suburbs.
Republican Presidential candidate Herman Cain will appear at a 9 a.m. rally Wednesday at the Marriott Hotel off Interstate 75 and Union Centre Boulevard.
The former pizza company executive is making a three-city swing through the state. West Chester is in a key Republican belt in Ohio, typically a pivotal swing state in presidential elections
The longtime married man has denied allegations in recent days he had a 13-year affair with a Georgia businesswoman. The allegations come after several women alleged he sexually harassed them.
Speculation swirled in the national media Tuesday night that he may quit the race. But Cain has said he will not quit unless his wife tells him she no longer believes in him.
Good god, Gloria Cain. Spare the country this nonsense, tell him it’s over, and let’s get back to the GOP doing something insane like nominating Newt Gingrich, assuring an Obama win. I mean at this point, Team Cain Unable has even lost J-Mart:
Herman Cain is in the midst of “reassessing” whether to continue his 2012 bid, but its legacy is already settled: His campaign will go down as one of the most hapless and bumbling operations in modern presidential politics, setting a new standard for how to turn damaging press coverage into something far worse.
We’ve got work to do to get him to leave, I guess.
Barry
“We’ve got work to do to get him to leave, I guess.”
No. Let him burn. Let him suck more money from the pockets of suckers, and make Newt work harder to con his share of the money, and make Romney devote resources to winning the nomination.
Meanwhile, continue to let people see just what the GOP is.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
There’s a crowded field for bumbling campaigns this year. Perry just asked for those who will be 21 on Nov 12, 2012 to vote for him. I hope all of those who are 21 and are goign to vote for him do it on the 12th, and those less than 21 stay at home griping about how they wish the voting age was 18.
Trinity
Grifters gotta grift.
JPL
The NYTimes has a lengthy article about Newt’s work as an “historian”. The big guns are coming for him.
link
Romney is the one that Rove wants and Romney it will be. His veep will be Jeb or Mario. IMO
SiubhanDuinne
The Morning Joe crew were having themselves a laff riot over that Perry remark.
Also, too, at the newt referring to himself as “a celebrity.”
Rick Taylor
“We”? He’s the Republican’s problem, let them figure it out.
Jamie
Hmmm maybe I should run over there today and hear him. Nahhh. It’s cold outside and I can get the same experience here at home by masturbating with a cheese grater, which is to say slightly amusing but mostly painful.
JasonF
@SiubhanDuinne:
We all know that the only reason Obama got elected in 2008 is because he was a celebrity, so I guess this is a case of “if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.”
peach flavored shampoo
No chance on Jeb, IMO. Rove’s smart enough to know that the country does not want another Bush so close to the Presidency.
Who’s Mario?
Jerzy Russian
If your opponent is drowning, throw him an anvil (Chester James Carville, Jr.). Either that, or point and laugh.
Schlemizel
@peach flavored shampoo:
One of those plumbers in that video game – a real celebrity!
JPL
@peach flavored shampoo: coffee time…sorry marco.rubio.. but a combination of two names might work also. (what a slip on my part)
The Ryan Plan is not going to help the repubs win in FL and in order to strengthen the ticket they might need a local person.
JPL
@Schlemizel: I still love that game. My sons moved beyond but not me.
cat48
Well, Newts’ ahead everywhere except NH & a poll yesterday showed he was closing in on Mitt. Mitt must be mad as Hell, heh:
catclub
@peach flavored shampoo: I think a typo for Marco Rubio.
burnspbesq
Politics as Vince Gill song. Lovely.
cat48
@JPL:
Nope, “Mario” won’t be VP b/c if they won, he wouldn’t be able to run for prez in 2016. He wants to keep 2016 open he “hinted” to someone who interviewed him last week. Might have been Kurtz, can’t remember.
Kane
If you were Gloria Cain, would you want him to come home?
catclub
@Kane: She is a democrat, so maybe leaving him out on the campaign trail is doing their work.
Schlemizel
@cat48:
I think Willard would not pick Rubio because he has been in hot water with the teabaggin crowd. Seems he is a bit too tan for their liking & his claim that his family were refuges from Castro is a lie.
Willard has some serious shoring up to do with the wingnuts so expect him to go with a loony toon representative.
g
I for one hope he sticks around for the amusement value.
What is he doing a campaign swing through Ohio for? Their primary isn’t until June – doesn’t he have some work to do before that?
JPL
Why are they still attacking Cain’s friend?. It’s apparent from her cell phone usage that they had a relationship. Her motives might not be pure but she did not make him do whatever it was he did.
His lack of foreign policy and regressive taxation hurt him more imo.
Mark Adams
Cain’s campaign was always an extended book tour … as was Newt’s. Unless the internetz godz decide they hate it when I put my thoughts online and decide he drops out tonight just to make me look the fool**, Cain stays in through the Christmas book buying season (ie. at least two more weeks).
**Yes, the internetz godz want me to think it’s all about me.
cat48
Ok, here it is about Rubio:
Rubio Keeps Eye on 2016
Howard Kurtz says Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) insists he’s not interested in a vice presidential bid in 2012, noting that his party can’t solve its Hispanic problem just by drafting “a person whose name ends in a vowel.”
…
However, while his aides welcome the veep chatter “because it gives him a larger megaphone,” they want “to preserve his option of running for president in 2016 — which Rubio would forfeit if his ticket beat President Obama this time around.”
Napoleon
More BS from Cain associated with his now canceled stop in the Cleveland area:
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/11/republican_presidential_hopefu_1.html
Mark Adams
Hey, “Mario” can’t run. Wasn’t he born in the caucasian section of Cuba/Kenya?
JPL
@cat48: The Ryan Plan is going to hurt them in FL. Seniors realize that privatizing affects them because more and more doctors will opt out of treating medicare patients and treat the elderly who have private insurance. A right wing group called one time shortly after they introduced the plan and the paid poll person had been treated poorly all day.
cat48
@Schlemizel:
Wow, more bad news about Mittens. There was a flood of negative press this a.m., but wow, this is devastating if accurate:
maya
Being a hapless Democrat she’s probably glued to her mirror asking herself “What’s wrong with me?”
But it really is over for poor Cain as I’m sure his 13 year mistress knows every inch of his groinal area including his unique pierced-cock ring’s inscription.
4jkb4ia
@Mark Adams:
According to his official Senate page he was born in Miami in 1971 to parents who left in 1956, which does not leave a lot of room for conspiracy theorizing.
Joseph Nobles
Would you want the MFer back underfoot?
@Kane: Also, too.
4jkb4ia
@cat48:
I quoted a poll in the open thread which says the opposite: Mitt still has 56% favorability and it has gone up about 15% with “very conservative” voters since October. That is WaPo/ABC News.
ChrisB
That Jonathan Martin article demonstrates everything that is wrong about Politico. For example, when Cain blew that question about Libya when being interviewed by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Politico says that the underlying problem was not Cain unfamiliarity with major foreign policy events. Instead, it was his staff’s decision to go to Milwaukee in the first place since it’s not one of the early primary states.
No, you idiots. The problem was that Cain knew nothing about foreign policy, not where or how it was exposed.
Politico is all about political insiders, all about the horse race.
Yutsano
@maya:
I could have lived the rest of my life without that mental image TYVM. Therapy bills in your mailbox coming.
Samara Morgan
Newt also has a Cain problem.
Republican women wont vote for him.
Face
Meanwhile, Huntsman clearly pushing for the women voters
Good lord, I had no idea the GOP was this misogynistic.
Joseph Nobles
@cat48: If Republicans win the White House in 2012, I guarantee you it would be a one-term dealybob, even if St. Ronnie himself beamed down from the shining city. If Rubio misses 2012, he’s always got 2024.
Marc
Most telling part of the story, about Cain’s disastrous Libya answer in the Milwaukee interview:
No, Mr. Martin, the underlying problem is that Herman Cain doesn’t know a damn thing about politics, or foreign policy, or foreign countries, or much of anything else, and he’s proud of it. And he was briefly front-runner for the Republican nomination.
Process, always process.
Samara Morgan
Know what Zandar?
Cain just needs to REPENT!
Salvation by faith, right?
half the GOP is WECs.
Marc
That said, the story of what Cain was doing in Milwaukee is pretty damn funny.
burnspbesq
OT, but this is genius:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/the-debt-ceiling/
kindness
Cain never wanted to be President. That was never his plan. I’d say his plan was to sell books, sell himself and land a gig with Fox News.
It’s all about the money baby. That and chasing other women on the sly.
pk
I wonder if it will come out that Romney has a second wife and a bunch of kids. Life cannot be that good though.
cat48
@4jkb4ia: @4jkb4ia:
Well, the reason the Birthers are “interested” in his B/C already, is b/c his parents were not born in the US, like one of Obama’s was not. Bobby Jindal has the same problem and he’s already shown his B/C. This is a Birther “qualification”, not mine. They feel both the child’s parents
both must be born in the US to be “natural born”. So they say OR maybe they’re all three just not white enough. Take your pick.
As for the PPP poll, there might be something to it because the Gallup “positive intensity score” is going down too:
slippy
Wow. GOP front-runners are flaming out so fast I can’t keep track of the fucking flavor of the day anymore. It seems like I went on Thanksgiving break where Cain was still 9-9-9 and now the GOP is like nein, nein, nein to him.
The problem with the GOP today is that they have simply insulated themselves so thoroughly with Fox News propaganda that they don’t know how to filter their naked hatred anymore, and that’s all they’ve got left. They HATE liberals and anyone who isn’t goose-stepping to their fucktarded ideas.
2012 is going to be a Democratic blowout election.
Samara Morgan
@Zandar
both Cain and Newt could benefit their polling immensely by public sackcloth and ashes.
Romney could benefit his by publically converting to evangelical xianity.
50% of the GOP is WECs now, so they do have power.
Samara Morgan
@slippy: plus the GOP is nearly entirely some variant of christofascist.
Snarki, child of Loki
@cat48: yet strangely enough, they’re not interested in Palin’s B/C, even after her parents admitted that they often skipped over to Canuckistan to suck up some of that low-cost single-payer healthcare.
Why just listen to Palin talk, it’s like she had some serious “hockey stick to the head” injuries as an infant.
Duane
most hapless and bumbling campaign? really i mean isnt that bar pretty damn high? shouldnt we at least ask president Giuliani or president fred thompson for their thoughts on the matter.
I think this is the statement that should be examined more…..
gelfling545
@Schlemizel: Well, I thought McCain could not possibly consider Palin because she was already under investigation so you never know.
ericblair
@Snarki, child of Loki:
Well, it’s like the immigration law in Alabama. Funny how all the fishbelly-white upstanding citizens of AL weren’t up in arms about having to carry a passport around to prove that they were in the country legally. It’s almost like they assumed that there was some way to tell whether someone was a likely illegal immigrant just by looking at them. Strange, that.
Except for the German 1%-er that got nailed. Now that wasn’t supposed to happen.
Donut
@cat48:
“He’s going to have to go fullblown teabagger if he plans on winning “the base.””
And he can’t do that and still win the general election. Gonna be hard enough for him, as it is, what with the flopping and the flipping and the flavin. Romney is pretty well in a fcking pickle no matter what.
I guess I sort of grudgingly admire his pluck for keeping at it, though.
SRW1
Probably an oversight by the editor due to insufficient caffein levels.
Donut
@4jkb4ia:
I’m not saying you don’t have a point, but even with good favorability numbers, why can’t Romney get above 25% or so in any polls of likely voters, save New Hampshire? Favorability does not translate to approval/votes. Look at Obama. Favorability holds up well for him, job approval still sags…
Bago
Slippy: do a barrel roll!
shortstop
There’s a place where you can still get an Orange Julius!? Hand over those GPS coordinates pronto.
patrick II
@kindness:
I wonder if he regrets running for book sales now. He unexpectedly became a front runner, which caused him to go thru the Rove Ringer and had his tawdry extracurricular sex life exposed which is at least embarrassing to his wife and probably causing severe stress on the marriage.
I don’t think he expected that and I wonder if he still thinks some book sales and a Fox gig are worth it.
And it might also show Sarah Palin might be smarter than we think. She had the good sense not to join in the cage match and put up with Rove sniffing at her underwear just to sell books.
shortstop
@patrick II: Things just got a little out of hand, Herm caught Potomac fever and started believing (or half-believing) his own press…and here we are.
But aren’t we seeing pretty much the same thing with Newt? He never started out seriously intending to run; everyone talked about how he had no campaign org. What few folks he did have quit in disgust when he insisted on cruising Greek islands and going to book signings instead of campaigning. He just wanted to sell books, lectures and fake awards. And now…he’s opening a campaign office in Iowa. He’ll ride that train until it crashes.
Cris (without an H)
Make it so.
patrick II
@shortstop:
I agree, the same thing is happening to Newt — a bookselling tour turns into a presidential run. Repubs must hate Romney more than I am capable of imagining.
RalfW
I could see Willard trying to court GQ’s #1 Least Influential Person, Tim Pawlenty, to join the ticket. They’re remarkably similar beings, actually. T-Paw just hasn’t been in politics long enough for all his flops, swerves and insipid policies to be as obvious.
RalfW
Italics added. To emphasize the grift.
If ya gotta pay to be able to soak the marks, you go find a free venue the next town over.
Paul in KY
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): Perry runs a manly campaign & doesn’t want any wet-behind-the-ears 18 year old voting for him.
Paul in KY
@Samara Morgan: That would probably be his best bet right now. Full blown Jimmy Swaggart & hope the base will have to put their money where their mouth is on redemption.
Mark Adams
Opps, sorry ’bout the Cuban/Kenyan crack. I usually assume the /snark tag is implicit here. My bad.
That said, There is a certain appeal in going the Full Orley route. ;-)
Jay in Oregon
@4jkb4ia:
I would have thought the same thing about a man born in Hawaii in 1961 to a woman who was a natural-born citizen, but reality can surprise us…
Platonicspoof
We’ve got work to do to get him to leave, I guess.
Or we have to pay him to get him to leave.
Last night on one of the msnbc shows (maybe O’Donnell), someone mentioned that if Squirmin’ Herman stayed in the race until January, he can get federal election matching dollars to pay his
book tour expensescampaign debts.Now returning to painting and further improvement in my memory of the past day.
Platonicspoof
Remainder of edit:
Or we have to pay him to get him to leave.
Last night on one of the msnbc shows (maybe O’Donnell), someone mentioned that if Squirmin’ Herman stayed in the race until January, he can get federal election matching dollars to pay his campaign debts.
Now returning to painting and further improvement in my memory of the past day.