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You are here: Home / I celebrate the man’s entire catalog

I celebrate the man’s entire catalog

by DougJ|  December 7, 20113:03 pm| 102 Comments

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I hate to link to Halperin but this is sweet:

Gingrich to Republican Jewish Coalition crowd: “I will ask John Bolton to be the Secretary of State.”

I can’t top that, so I’ll shut up.

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  1. 1.

    beltane

    December 7, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Damn. I just clicked over here to post that. Also, look at Jennifer Rubin’s reaction: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/07/1043169/-Republican-Jewish-Coalition-%E2%99%A5s-Gingrich

  2. 2.

    DougJ

    December 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    @beltane:

    Why is moving the embassy to Jerusalem such winger bait?

  3. 3.

    beltane

    December 7, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    @DougJ: Because it is symbolism designed to piss off the Mooslims and nothing says Smart Foreign Policy like sh*tting on a billion people for no particular purpose.

  4. 4.

    Dave

    December 7, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    @DougJ: It’s the historical center of Israel, the birthplace of the House of David. So for the Israeli nationalists, it is the center of everything Jewish.

  5. 5.

    Suffern ACE

    December 7, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    @DougJ: Because Jerusalem is not all Israel’s. It is very purposefully not the capital of Israel.

  6. 6.

    PeakVT

    December 7, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    @DougJ: Because it would mean the US was ratifying the seizure of East Jerusalem (and by extension the rest of the West Bank). A unified biblical Israel would bring the Rapture one step closer.

  7. 7.

    Zifnab

    December 7, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    @DougJ: Because JEEBUS! We must be closer to JEEBUS!

  8. 8.

    Special Patrol Group

    December 7, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    @DougJ:

    @DougJ: Because it is symbolism designed to piss off the Mooslims and nothing says Smart Foreign Policy like sh*tting on a billion people for no particular purpose.
    @DougJ: It’s the historical center of Israel, the birthplace of the House of David. So for the Israeli nationalists, it is the center of everything Jewish.
    @DougJ: Because Jerusalem is not all Israel’s. It is very purposefully not the capital of Israel.

    All secondary at best. It’s mostly because liberals oppose the move.

    Per Cleek’s Observation:
    Today’s conservatism is the opposite of what liberals want today, updated daily.

  9. 9.

    beltane

    December 7, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    @PeakVT: And it just might.

  10. 10.

    Guster

    December 7, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    I wonder if the Log Cabin Republicans and the Republican Jewish Coalition ever get together.

  11. 11.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    December 7, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    @PeakVT: Excepting that Newt no more believes in Teh Rapture than he does the Easter Bunny. Never attribute anything that man ever does to anything else that cannot first be attributed to unfiltered, undiluted, stonecold spite.

  12. 12.

    kindness

    December 7, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Well that works if Americans (Jewish Repubs too) want perpetual war with every Muslim nation on earth.

    So Newt gets Pam Geller’s vote. Who else would this impress?

  13. 13.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    In that event, I’ll start sending donations to Hezbollah with “bombs for anti-Israeli intifada” in the memo line.

  14. 14.

    Bulworth

    December 7, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    I won’t rest until I know Newt’s choice for Secretary of War.

  15. 15.

    rumpole

    December 7, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBhlQgvHmQ0

    In a (wing) nutshell.

  16. 16.

    Xenos

    December 7, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: Now that Newt is a Roman Catholic, he had better not believe in the rapture. He could get sent back to conversion catechism class for that!

  17. 17.

    beltane

    December 7, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Isn’t Newt supposed to be a Catholic these days? I could be mistaken but I believe he is going against the RC Church with his position on Jerusalem.

  18. 18.

    Roger Moore

    December 7, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    @Dave:

    It’s the historical center of Israel, the birthplace of the House of David.

    Technically, Jerusalem was the seat of the House of David (i.e. where they built the Temple and royal palace) but not the birthplace. David was originally from Bethlehem, and Jerusalem was a city he captured from the Jebusites not long after recovering independence from the Philistines. That’s why there’s the story in Luke about Joseph and Mary having to travel to Bethlehem for a fictional census when Jesus was born; it provides an explanation for how a guy from Nazareth was really of the House of David and born in the same town where David was.

  19. 19.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    @Bulworth:

    I won’t rest until I know Newt’s choice for Secretary of War.

    Bolton is Newt’s choice for Secretary of War. Diplomacy is for pussies. What this country clearly needs is an asshole chickenhawk to yell at furriners.

    I also want to point out that the main difference between warmonger John Bolton and peace activist Jane Fonda is that unlike Bolton, Jane actually went to Vietnam…

  20. 20.

    beltane

    December 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    @Bulworth: I do not know his plans for the Ministry of War, but I’ve been told that Herman Cain is his choice to be Secretary of Love.

  21. 21.

    PeakVT

    December 7, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn: I’m sure Gingrich doesn’t believe the Rapture is imminent, but that certainly wouldn’t stop him exploiting those who do, i.e. Christian Zionists (aka Talibangelicals).

  22. 22.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Technically, Jerusalem was the seat of the House of David (i.e. where they built the Temple and royal palace) but not the birthplace. David was originally from Bethlehem, and Jerusalem was a city he captured from the Jebusites not long after recovering independence from the Philistines. That’s why there’s the story in Luke about Joseph and Mary having to travel to Bethlehem for a fictional census when Jesus was born; it provides an explanation for how a guy from Nazareth was really of the House of David and born in the same town where David was.

    Another lesson in why it is foolish to base contemporary foreign policy on supporting ancient myths.

  23. 23.

    Guster

    December 7, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    On second though, I don’t really understand this. I mean, isn’t west Jerusalem indisputably Israel?

    And isn’t that where the embassy would be? And isn’t that what Israel says is its capital? I mean, as long as it’s not a land-grab, shouldn’t you put an embassy in whatever city the other country says is its capital? Or is that not how it’s done?

  24. 24.

    Brachiator

    December 7, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    @Bulworth:

    I won’t rest until I know Newt’s choice for Secretary of War.

    Not too sure on this one, but Donald Trump is a natural for Secretary of Treasury.

  25. 25.

    wenchacha

    December 7, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Is Newt Opus Dei? I’m curious if he is mainstream Catholic, or some other variation of RC, usually more conservative than the Vatican.

  26. 26.

    beltane

    December 7, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    @Yevgraf:

    Another lesson in why it is foolish to base contemporary foreign policy on supporting ancient myths.

    Maybe this is not true. For all we know, the Greek crisis could be solved if they just started sacrificing goats to Athena in front of the Acropolis.

  27. 27.

    trollhattan

    December 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    I guess for double-WIN points, Herr Sekratari Bolton could lop off the top few stories of the UN Building and helicoptor (black, of course) them to Jerusalem to serve as the new capitol.

    Of all the Bushies, Bolton remains the one I’d most like to smash in the puss with a cinderblock. Even more than Cheney. There’s just something about that guy….

  28. 28.

    Short Bus Bully

    December 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    You know what this country really needs? A CRUSADE.

    Gingrich and the wingers know this. Done and done.

    Ohmyfuckinggod this is gonna be OSSUM.

    /popcorn

  29. 29.

    Roger Moore

    December 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    @beltane:

    For all we know, the Greek crisis could be solved if they just started sacrificing goats to Athena in front of the Acropolis.

    I think it’s Hermes, the God of merchants and bankers, they need to be trying to mollify. Or maybe they could try praying to Bernardine of Feltre, the patron saint of bankers.

  30. 30.

    Violet

    December 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    I’ve been out of the country and only just got home. So Newt is now the front runner? How the hell did that happen?

    Women hate Newt. How can he ever win the general election?

  31. 31.

    Svensker

    December 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    @Guster:

    Go read the summary at #8 again.

  32. 32.

    Amir Khalid

    December 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    They must have been ROFL at the US State Department when they heard that.

    Per TPM, the (non) reaction from Bolton:

    Bolton’s office declined to say if he’d accept the appointment, if he’s discussed it with Gingrich or whether or not he’s endorsing Gingrich.

  33. 33.

    Jenny

    December 7, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    See, the Firebaggers and PUMAs are right. There no difference btwn Obama and Gingrich.

  34. 34.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 7, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    @wenchacha: Newt is no more a genuine Catholic than I am a Cardinal.

  35. 35.

    jayjaybear

    December 7, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    @wenchacha: I doubt that. Santorum, maybe, but I don’t think Newt has the kind of faith chops it takes to be Opus Dei. Those people aren’t just religious politicians mouthing words that will get the yokels to vote for them…they really do believe. What they believe is reactionary, recidivist, revanchist bullshit more egregious than the usual right-wing Christian reactionary, recidivist revanchist bullshit, but they do absolutely believe it.

  36. 36.

    eemom

    December 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    omg, moving the embassy to Jerusalem is about as close as you could get to the literal act of touching a match to a gas tank. You might as well yell “Fuck the Palestinians” on the floor of the UN.

  37. 37.

    Jenny

    December 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    @Guster:

    I wonder if the Log Cabin Republicans and the Republican Jewish Coalition ever get together.

    Sure, they fit nicely in a phone booth.

  38. 38.

    Maude

    December 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    OT Sandusky has been arrested on more charges.
    Bolton used to chase women down hotel hallways. Will he chase them through the State Department?

  39. 39.

    jayjaybear

    December 7, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Of all the Bushies, Bolton remains the one I’d most like to smash in the puss with a cinderblock. Even more than Cheney. There’s just something about that guy…

    In my case, it’s the wholesale swipe of Kurt Vonnegut’s look. On a person of Bolton’s caliber, it’s just completely unearned.

  40. 40.

    trollhattan

    December 7, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    @Violet:

    Women hate Newt. How can he ever win the general election?

    He’s just so goshdurn full of them idears, all the time cipherin’ new idears on how to make the you ess even better, and idears on who Calista’s replacement otta be.

    He’s a baffoon and has zero chance of not sinking his own leaky ship before the convention. Which leaves…?

    Huntsmania!

  41. 41.

    Frankensteinbeck

    December 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    @Violet:
    He can’t. AH HA HA HA HA HA!

  42. 42.

    Faux News

    December 7, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    John Bolton for Secretary of State? Hmm. Pity Dr. Mengele isn’t available to be the Surgeon General. I’m sure Newt would nominate him if he could.

  43. 43.

    eemom

    December 7, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Of all the Bushies, Bolton remains the one I’d most like to smash in the puss with a cinderblock. Even more than Cheney. There’s just something about that guy….

    Backpfeifengesicht

  44. 44.

    Guster

    December 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Wikipedia says: The Jerusalem Law states that “Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel” and the city serves as the seat of the government, home to the President’s residence, government offices, supreme court, and parliament. United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 (20 Aug. 1980; 14–0, U.S. abstaining) declared the Jerusalem Law “null and void” and called on member states to withdraw their diplomatic missions from Jerusalem. The United Nations and all member nations refuse to accept the Jerusalem Law (see Kellerman 1993, p. 140) and maintain their embassies in other cities such as Tel Aviv, Ramat Gan, and Herzliya (see the CIA Factbook and Map of Israel). The U.S. Congress subsequently adopted the Jerusalem Embassy Act, which said that the U.S. embassy should be relocated to Jerusalem and that it should be recognized as the capital of Israel. However, the US Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel concluded that the provisions of the act “invade exclusive presidential authorities in the field of foreign affairs and are unconstitutional”. Since passage of the act, all Presidents serving in office have determined that moving forward with the relocation would be detrimental to U.S. national security concerns and opted to issue waivers suspending any action on this front. The Palestinian Authority sees East Jerusalem as the capital of a future Palestinian state. The city’s final status awaits future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority

  45. 45.

    Violet

    December 7, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    @trollhattan:
    It’ll be Romney before Huntsman. Romney’s got money and people in position in various states to do the ground work. Huntsman is like a saner Romney, which will never go down well in Republican Primary Voter Land.

  46. 46.

    Steve

    December 7, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    @DougJ: Something not everybody knows is that we’ve had a law on the books for 15 years saying our embassy will be moved to Jerusalem. The only way around the law is if the President certifies that it can’t be done yet for national security reasons. Every President since then, Clinton, Bush, Obama, has dutifully certified every six months that the time has not arrived.

    @Guster: We would be literally the only country with an embassy in Jerusalem. Imagine all the cocktail parties we would miss.

  47. 47.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Not even a Cardinal Puff? With a nym like that, you’d be a natural…

  48. 48.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    December 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    @Maude: Screaming and throwing shoes, no less. IOW, Newt’s sorta guy.

  49. 49.

    trollhattan

    December 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    @eemom:

    Backpfeifengesicht

    There it is. Dankeschön!

  50. 50.

    jonas

    December 7, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Why stop the pandering with Bolton for State?

    Rush Limbaugh for Chief of Staff
    the corpse of Curtis Le May for Defense Secretary
    Robert Bork for attorney general
    Randal Terry for surgeon general
    Etc., etc.

  51. 51.

    trollhattan

    December 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    @Violet:

    I’ve always figured Romney no matter what (allowing for Perry’s bucks to muscle in but wow, was that ever brief) but the Republican barrel scrapings, beginning with Cain, show how desperate they are for ABR and there’s still time for a Newt flameout and at least one more ABR. Huntsman’s the last man standing, since Paul keeps on his invisibility cloak and Santorum is too toxic even for them.

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    December 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    @Maude:

    OT Sandusky has been arrested on more charges.

    Meanwhile, Fine is going to skate. The Onondaga County DA says (1) that while he finds Davis and Lang to be credible, the statute of limitations under New York law has expired, and (2) although Fine could be prosecuted under Federal law if the Tomaselli allegations were true, there is significant exculpatory evidence (apparently team travel records don’t show Tomaselli traveling with the team to Pittsburgh in 2002, as he alleged).

    Ugh. Nobody, including me, is going to be happy about the way this has played out.

    Delicious additional detail that I didn’t know before today, that isn’t legally relevant, but that adds to the odor around this whole situation: the chief of the Syracuse PD at the time Davis first came forward was a former Syracuse basketball player.

  53. 53.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    @eemom:

    omg, moving the embassy to Jerusalem is about as close as you could get to the literal act of touching a match to a gas tank. You might as well yell “Fuck the Palestinians” on the floor of the UN.

    Conservatives are just showing how much they love the troops by throwing them recklessly into soul-sucking, life-taking combat. Liberals hate the troops, and show it by being cautious about the escalation of force and by demonstrating reluctance at entering into conflict.

  54. 54.

    Raven

    December 7, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    @jonas: And fruitcake Newt as the commander of a weapons platoon in the 506th PIR.

  55. 55.

    Geografist

    December 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I’m pretty sure that offering political appointments prior to an election is either illegal or a violation of some ethics reg somewhere…?

  56. 56.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    December 7, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    @trollhattan: I honestly believe that Newt is the sort who *will* have multiple instances of what would be considered a flameout — by general election standards. But any such behavior that manifests itself between now and the end of the primaries will only serve to seal the deal with today’s conservative base, being as that ego and termperment of his, while grotesque to the larger citizenry, will be red meat to conservative voters.

    What doomed Perry and Cain were “deer in the headlights” moments, and I don’t see that coming from Gingrich.

  57. 57.

    Maude

    December 7, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    @burnspbesq:
    Shame about Fine, but they can’t risk losing in court.
    I want to see what happens in PA with the hearing on Sandusky. See if he is out and about after that.
    At least, he should be monitored.

  58. 58.

    danimal

    December 7, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Somebody pinch me. The GOP is really going to nominate this blowhard? Really? I never thought I would see the day when the Dems could claim 40-50 states in the electoral college, but I never dreamed the Republicans could be so criminally stupid.

    Michael Bolton would be a better choice for Defense Secretary than John Bolton. At least he could put our enemies to sleep with some smooth jazz…

    Go, Newt, Go. We are really scared of you. You threaten our liberal way of life. /smirk

  59. 59.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    http://nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/gingrich-says-he-would-replace-assad-20111207

    Taking a hard line on a U.S. foe in the Middle East, Republican presidential front-runner Newt Gingrich indicated on Wednesday that he would unilaterally “replace” Syrian President Bashar al-Assad because he is running a “bad dictatorship.”
    …
    The former House speaker was asked on a morning talk-radio show in Chicago to offer a “30-second” answer to what he would do about Syria, where anti-government protests have led to a violent crackdown. Gingrich replied, “I can give you a three-second answer. Replace Assad. I mean, Assad is our enemy. He is an ally of Iran. It is a bad dictatorship. It is to our interest to get rid of dictators of this kind.”
    …
    Gingrich did not say how he would remove Assad, and acknowledged there would be “consequences” for such an overt U.S. action. He said that, as president, it would be his job to manage them. “Now, that means you have consequences and have to be much better at managing the consequences than this administration has been,” he said on the Don Wade & Roma radio show. “But I think nonetheless getting rid of Assad will lead to a better future than keeping him there.”

    There ya go, Troops. There’s your Troop lovin’ conservative champion, looking after you.

    He’s probably got some vouchers for some of that racist gasbag Maurice’s barbecue down Carolina way that he’s gonna give those beloved Troops that lose limbs and senses in his wars, all to replace that evil soc!alist VA healthcare….

  60. 60.

    Short Bus Bully

    December 7, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Sweet Jesus… Is it really going to Newt v. Obama?

    Head.spinning.

  61. 61.

    Geografist

    December 7, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Yep, Newt just broke the law (again):

    Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or
    pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for
    the appointment of any person to any public or private position or
    employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one
    year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined
    under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

  62. 62.

    Brachiator

    December 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    @Yevgraf:

    Gingrich did not say how he would remove Assad, and acknowledged there would be “consequences” for such an overt U.S. action. He said that, as president, it would be his job to manage them. “Now, that means you have consequences and have to be much better at managing the consequences than this administration has been,” he said on the Don Wade & Roma radio show.

    Right, because Bush and Cheney managed things so well in Iraq after Saddam Hussein was toppled.

    It just astounds me that anybody takes any of these GOP goofballs seriously. Newt promises a new war in the Middle East and his supporters just shrug it off. I’m just waiting for the moment in one of the upcoming GOP debates where Newt makes the claim that American Exceptionalism means that the US would be guaranteed a victory over Syria and Michelle Bachmann shouts “Amen, brother!”

  63. 63.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    December 7, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    @Geografist: GOP Base: “Even awesomer!”

  64. 64.

    carpeduum

    December 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    “Hi, Peter. What’s happening? We need to talk about your TPS reports.”

  65. 65.

    DougJ

    December 7, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    @carpeduum:

    Glad somebody got this reference.

  66. 66.

    grumpy realist

    December 7, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    @Geografist: I think ol’ Newt could skate out of this because he’s not doing this to gather support; he’s just flapping his lips as usual. Mr. Bomb-thrower galore.

    After all, it’s all fun and games until someone gets killed….

    If Gingrich gets elected as POTUS, that’s it. I’m moving to the Outback.

  67. 67.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    @Brachiator:

    It just astounds me that anybody takes any of these GOP goofballs seriously. Newt promises a new war in the Middle East and his supporters just shrug it off.

    Yeah, but The Troops© wouldn’t have those PC restraints on them, so they could blow up shit and slaughter civilians by the thousands in order to achieve victory. So long as those Likudnik vampires can dance like the pigs they are in the streets of Tel Aviv and Haifa, rednecks from the South can indiscriminately machine gun brown children, and evangelicals in the USAF can indiscriminately fire off drones and bombs without worry as to consequences, all is good.

  68. 68.

    Bulworth

    December 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    @DougJ: DougJ? Is that your real name?

  69. 69.

    Jesse Ewiak

    December 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    The Republican Jewish Coalition? So, a bunch of Hasidic Jews and people who think Avigdor Lieberman should be PM in Israel?

  70. 70.

    Rihilism

    December 7, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    @Guster:

    I wonder if the Log Cabin Republicans and the Republican Jewish Coalition ever get together.

    Unpossible. With that much guilt and self-hatred in a single location, a singularity is formed and the universe is destroyed….

  71. 71.

    daveNYC

    December 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    @eemom:

    omg, moving the embassy to Jerusalem is about as close as you could get to the literal act of touching a match to a gas tank. You might as well yell “Fuck the Palestinians” on the floor of the UN.

    I’m pretty sure they’d stick that in the second paragraph of the speach.

    Bunch of no-talent ass-clowns.

  72. 72.

    geg6

    December 7, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    @beltane:

    He’s one of those cafeteria Catholics, I guess. Kinda like his wife, Calista, who, despite being a “devout” Catholic who convinced Newt to convert, had no problem being his mistress and having wild salamander sex with him without the benefit of the “sacrament” of marriage.

  73. 73.

    geg6

    December 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    @jayjaybear:

    There have been whispers for years that Frothy Rick is Opus Dei.

  74. 74.

    AA+ Bonds

    December 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    @DougJ:

    Because it’s effectively a declaration of war against Arab Muslims.

    It falls under the policies that speak most to part of the Republican base, policies I think are best characterized as “pro-Armageddon”. It throws our hat in for a gigantic climactic showdown that will kill millions of people and, here’s the heretical part, summon Jesus to Earth to punish all non-Christians.

    It goes without saying that Gingrich’s Church has been a top advocate for the Palestinians, their right of return, and their right to representation in Jerusalem. There are very few positions Gingrich endorses that the Catholic Church doesn’t actively oppose.

  75. 75.

    jayjaybear

    December 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    @geg6: I can definitely see it. The thing with OD is that you really can’t go and pretend to be one. That group is paranoid, clannish and really, really authoritarian…it’s like a cult. They take it seriously, and a pretender would likely be cast out quickly.

  76. 76.

    Warren Terra

    December 7, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    Gingrich to Republican Jewish Coalition crowd

    They found enough Republican Jews to constitute a crowd?

    In any case, Republicans don’t really suck up to Jews. They give the appearance of sucking up to the most extreme religious and nationalist Jews as a way to appeal to the worst impulses of the Christian Millenialists (who naturally believe those to be their best impulses). The Christian Millenialists, like the Lukidniks they back, disgust and terrify all thinking American Jews – who, according to polls and contra the old Adlai Stevenson gag, are in fact a strong majority of American Jews.

  77. 77.

    AA+ Bonds

    December 7, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    Hmmm which party is a friend of the Jews? Perhaps . . . the Jews can tell us! Let’s take a peek at those voting numbers . . . . well well, it seems like the Republicans should’ve stuck with Pat Buchanan! A har har har!

  78. 78.

    burnspbesq

    December 7, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    @danimal:

    Michael Bolton would be a better choice for Defense Secretary than John Bolton. At least he could put our enemies to sleep with some smooth jazz…

    Are you kidding? Forcing people to listen to Michael Bolton is causus belli, no doubt about it.

  79. 79.

    AA+ Bonds

    December 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Like people have said above, this is for the weird-ass let’s-die-together right-wing Protestants. There is no fuckin way Jews will vote in large numbers for a party that requires its candidates to stand up and say this is a Christian nation. Even the phrase “Judeo-Christian” couldn’t peel off any support, and that’s pretty much all they got right there.

    Blacks know, Jews know, and even 50% of American Catholics know: the Republicans want to cleanse America of non-WASPs and FAST.

  80. 80.

    Calouste

    December 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    @grumpy realist:

    It got him a big round of applause. So while he might not have done it to gather support from Bolton, he did do it to gather support.

  81. 81.

    Rihilism

    December 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    @geg6: Somebody should pants him and check for cilices. Any volunteers?…

  82. 82.

    burnspbesq

    December 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    BTW, Blago got 14 years.

  83. 83.

    Yevgraf

    December 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    The Christian Millenialists, like the Lukidniks they back, disgust and terrify all thinking American Jews…

    Hard to imagine that American Jews are more interested in keeping America safe for Jews than they are in immigrating to a cornered place that is increasingly looking like it working to be a deservedly bombed out, radioactive wasteland.

  84. 84.

    AA+ Bonds

    December 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Look, Gingrich is like a lot of Republicans: they figure that if the Jews have a Greater Israel, we can finally ship them over there and give the KKK some sorely needed Lebensraum.

    They’re “pro-Israel” like Eichmann was in the early years: Israel for the Jews, America for the “Americans”. That’s how they see things.

  85. 85.

    danimal

    December 7, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    @burnspbesq: You’re probably right. To many, Michael Bolton is the audio equivalent of a weapon of mass destruction.

    I’m just upset that @DougJ: acknowledged carpedipshit even though I clearly made the connection first.

  86. 86.

    ohsuzanna

    December 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Well, that was just one dog whistle Newtie has in his arsenal, I’m sure.

  87. 87.

    Chuck Butcher

    December 7, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    I suppose a statement like this puts the kibosh to an idea of electing these idjits to teach Americans the lesson of what they actually are…

    Which doesn’t mean I think a good sized chunk will get the idea any other way…

  88. 88.

    SRW1

    December 7, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    I bet tomorrow Newt will announce Donald Rumsfeld as his choice for secretary of defense.

  89. 89.

    burnspbesq

    December 7, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Shocking news from Switzerland: Manchester United is out of the Champions League.

    Light the bat-signal. We need a Randinho post to discuss this and other crazy results.

  90. 90.

    Tom Hilton

    December 7, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Allahpundit was actually a little snarky about this: “…how much redder could this red meat be? The answer is none. None more red.”

    And, y’know, I kind of have to agree.

  91. 91.

    Chris

    December 7, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    In any case, Republicans don’t really suck up to Jews. They give the appearance of sucking up to the most extreme religious and nationalist Jews as a way to appeal to the worst impulses of the Christian Millenialists (who naturally believe those to be their best impulses). The Christian Millenialists, like the Lukidniks they back, disgust and terrify all thinking American Jews – who, according to polls and contra the old Adlai Stevenson gag, are in fact a strong majority of American Jews.

    This.

    Jews continue to vote Democrat by overwhelming majorities despite all the jumping up and down by Republican candidates, and Republicans know it: and even if every last American Jew voted Republican, that would still only be a couple percentage points. They’re not talking to Jews, they’re talking to Christian evangelicals.

  92. 92.

    Snowball

    December 7, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Speaking of Israel; Rick Perry today announced that he would increase US military aid to Israel. With what money? Do we not have a deficit? I thought the deficit was the issue of the day for the GOP.

  93. 93.

    DanielX

    December 7, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    John Bolton as Secretary of State? They’ll have to add a new cable channel. Slogan: “ALL WAR, ALL THE TIME!”

  94. 94.

    SRW1

    December 7, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Very much looking forward to the Football Weekly Extra from the Guardian tomorrow.

  95. 95.

    Brachiator

    December 7, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    @Chris:

    Jews continue to vote Democrat by overwhelming majorities despite all the jumping up and down by Republican candidates, and Republicans know it.

    They are looking for a Jimmy Carter type swing.

    A Sept 11 NYT story started the hand wringing over this issue

    Not since Jimmy Carter in 1980 has a Democrat running for president failed to win a lopsided majority of the Jewish vote. This has been true during times of peace or war, and even when there has been deep acrimony between the White House and the Israeli government.

    But a USA Today blog piece puts this into perspective.

    In 2008, John McCain not only boasted a much longer pro-Israel record than Obama’s, but along with his Christian-Zionist running mate Sarah Palin, he also stressed commitment to the Jewish state more fiercely and frequently than did his Democratic rival. Nonetheless, exit polls showed 78% of Jewish voters backing Obama, providing a victory margin 50 points larger than his advantage with the overall electorate.
    __
    Even the staunchest Republican friends of Israel fail to win majorities among Jewish voters. In 1980, Ronald Reagan won a bigger portion of the Jewish vote than any GOP presidential nominee in the past 50 years,but even this impassioned advocate for the Jewish state drew only 38%. On the other hand, Jews deliver reliable pluralities to Democratic candidates even when those contenders appear hostile or indifferent to Israeli concerns (such as George McGovern in 1972 or Jimmy Carter in 1980) and lose among voters at large by landslide margins.

  96. 96.

    Jay

    December 7, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Pammycakes Geller will be Bolton’s top deputy. Watch.

  97. 97.

    AA+ Bonds

    December 7, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Man, those wacky Jews – they didn’t even vote for the last standard bearer of white supremacy in America! What the hell is wrong with them?

    You gotta love the eternal fascism of Gannett newspapers.

  98. 98.

    wilfred

    December 7, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Right. And Aipac? One reason that Jews vote Democratic in regard to Israel is that no Democrat opposes anything that the Israelis do anyway. Liberal Jews get to glory in their righteous ‘we care’ politics while Palestinians get their faces rubbed in shit on a daily basis. It’s the best of both worlds – even if it does give rise to the occasional Lady Macbeth post.

    Netanhayu got 29 standing ovations when he spoke to congress – how many Democrats sat on their hands? All the influential American Jews in government are diehard zionists, who make common cause with the right wing when it serves their purposes – see Lieberman, Schumer, et al.

    The Republicans are running for President of Israel. Obama will, too – and it won’t be because he fears losing support from Christian Zionists.

  99. 99.

    ned

    December 8, 2011 at 8:52 am

    @Geografist: cite, please.

  100. 100.

    Samara Morgan

    December 8, 2011 at 9:44 am

    @wilfred:

    The Republicans are running for President of Israel. Obama will, too – and it won’t be because he fears losing support from Christian Zionists.

    Nah it because he and Panetta are pants-wetting scared that Israel has figgered out We Arent That Into Her Anymore and is gunna secretly launch on Iran to start WWIII.
    Bibi hasta do it before Obama gets re-elected for max effect.

  101. 101.

    Samara Morgan

    December 8, 2011 at 9:49 am

    @DougJ: because it welds us at the hip to the Israeli-nazis.
    And Bolton cant be confirmed, Newt knows it. Its just kabuki.
    The question is…….will 2012 be the year America Escapes from Distributed Jesusland?
    Or not.
    ;)

  102. 102.

    eemom

    December 8, 2011 at 9:51 am

    One reason that Jews vote Democratic in regard to Israel is that no Democrat opposes anything that the Israelis do anyway. Liberal Jews get to glory in their righteous ‘we care’ politics while Palestinians get their faces rubbed in shit on a daily basis. It’s the best of both worlds – even if it does give rise to the occasional Lady Macbeth post.
    Netanhayu got 29 standing ovations when he spoke to congress – how many Democrats sat on their hands? All the influential American Jews in government are diehard zionists, who make common cause with the right wing when it serves their purposes – see Lieberman, Schumer, et al.

    What was that about “anti-Semitism” being just a meaningless buzzword invoked by warmongering neocons again?

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