(Drew Sheneman via GoComics.com)
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During this hectic holiday season, let’s keep reminding our “low information” family members and acquaintances:
When you vote for a modern Republican, you are voting for a Bad Person.
This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality
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The Dangerman
I can understand why the Republicans have to end the tax break; the economy is starting to finally recover…
Edit: …or, perhaps, they finally figured out that only giving Obama 60 days to approve/disapprove Keystone was a guaranteed disapproval. The Koch’s muster shit bricks.
amk
This toon is better.
Mr Stagger Lee
Praise the GOP, insuring that Winston Churchill will have a place in the Capitol. For shame of President Obama sending the prior bust of Winnie back to London, in a fit of anti-colonial pique, nevermind the British wanted it back, but according the wingnuts the President has shown contempt for the greatest White Man in the century.;-)
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
Make sure you tell El Tiburon, who doesn’t seem to grasp this point.
Breezeblock
Drew is my local guy — Star Ledger. He’s pretty regular good.
jo6pac
Yep, vote for a dnc demodog you might get the same thing thanks to the mayor c. We need to be careful on who we vote for in the houses next time
jeffreyw
Mmm… Dinner is served.
Cacti
But someone said earlier today, that if we just give up and let the Republicans have everything they want, eventually the people will rise up and create a progressive paradise.
cathyx
I love that ‘low information relatives’. Luckily I won’t be seeing them this year.
Omnes Omnibus
@Cacti: If someone said you should jump off a bridge, would you do it?
/my dad
Cacti
@Omnes Omnibus:
How high a bridge?
dmsilev
@Cacti: He/she/it was a fun chew-toy for a while, but I think we scared it away. It hopefully won’t be back.
Baud
For all the derision “low information” voters get, Obama is sitting at 50% approval and rising, while Congress has been steadily falling to the single digits. A lot of them get it.
piratedan
@Cacti: upper or lower bridge?
The prophet Nostradumbass
What is a “Beef O’Brady’s”, and why is it sponsoring a bowl game?
burnspbesq
At least the NYT got the headline right today:
“Republicans in House Reject Deal Extending Payroll Tax Cut”
Wag
@Cacti:
There were Jews in Germany in the 1930’s who said the same thing
Baud
The White House started this thing on Twitter: “What does #40dollars mean to you?,” $40 being the average amount the tax cut would save per paycheck. The responses are really moving.
PurpleGirl
@jeffreyw: Oh, that looks soooooooooooo good. What is it? (I want to reach into my computer and spoon out a bowl full.)
burnspbesq
@The prophet Nostradumbass:
A restaurant chain.
To build name recognition. Seems to be working; they got your attention.
Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal
@Mr Stagger Lee: of course, without winston churchhill history would have denied george w bush his greatest achievement, pissing off liberals with that whole iraq thing.
Omnes Omnibus
@Cacti: I never asked him. He also used to say, when angered by a response to a question, that I ws talking like a kid with a paper ass. I did once ask him what that meant. He responded, “Does it sound like something good?” Later, I found out it was a phrase of his dad’s and he had no idea what it meant. If I have kids, I shall use it. I like keeping family traditions alive.
handy
Local (non-Fox) TV bobblehead on the House rejection of the payroll tax bill: “The Republicans rejected the Senate bill that would extend the tax cut temporarily because they want a much longer extension.”
Mission Accomplished, Roger Ailes.
jeffreyw
@PurpleGirl:
It’s this stuff.
Suffern ACE
@Baud: I’m beginning to wonder about those 6-9% who approve of Congress at the moment. Who are they? Are they the types of people who are so optimistic that they just approve of everything or are they a bunch of Congress junkies that approve of Congress most of all? That 2nd group has to be about the loneliest set of people in the country. They might go months without meeting another soul who shares their passion.
Baud
@Suffern ACE: Maybe the 6-9% are mistakenly thinking of Definition # 5.
burnspbesq
@handy:
“The Republicans rejected the Senate bill that would extend the tax cut temporarily because they want a much longer extension.”
That would make a certain amount of sense if it weren’t a lie.
gnomedad
It’s the negative-information ones I can’t cope with.
gaz
@Suffern ACE: they’re congress ;)
/snark
Arm The Homeless
Sorry for reposting this. Ok, not really sorry, just felt like I should preface my post with that.
Anyone know of a good jeweler who has some patience to sit down with a dude who has absolutely no sense of fashion to help me design an engagement-ring? I have some stones that I would like to use, but I can’t use the local people, and I can’t talk to the fam because I would have three generations calling and blowing up the BookFace with sappy questions.
TrishB
FYI for anyone who donated to help with Tiffany’s surgery: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/21683516
The above link was sent from the rescue earlier. Looks like the surgery was a success.
Raven
@Arm The Homeless: Be good if we knew where you are?
Raven
@TrishB: Yea! I posted it earlier after I got the email.
Bago
@Cacti: Not to mention the question that must be asked, are there parachutes and/or bungee cords involved?
satby
@Raven: I was about to post it too, glad so many of us got the update.
Gus diZerega
@Cacti: I believe that similar reason was used by the German Communist Party in the 1920s and early 30s. Don’t support the Weimar Republic because things have to get worse before they get better.
Of course eventually things got better,, but few if any were alive to enjoy it.
scav
@Arm The Homeless: From what I read in the last thread, I suggest you give the stones as an engagement pledge and design the ring together (works well symbolically as marriage is something you work on together) with your strong-minded intended.
PurpleGirl
@jeffreyw: Thank you. I may try making it. It looks really good. And doesn’t seem too complicated to cook.
Arm The Homeless
@Raven: Oh, sorry, I am in Florida
@scav: I was thinking about this, but I didn’t know what the response would be to giving her a ring that’s too small as an engagement token. I am sure she wouldn’t balk, but it makes me feel a bit uneasy. Although I do like the sentiment you’re speaking of.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gus diZerega: Oh, the guy who said it got pummeled mercilessly with that and every other example under the sun. Plus, I think some people made fun of his looks.
Maxwel
The 6-9% who approve of Congress at the moment probably don’t know what Congress is.
Wag
@Baud:
@handy:
Putting two and tow together, I think the two of you are proposing that the GOP wants to fuck the American People for a good long time. I fear you may be right.
PurpleGirl
@TrishB: That is so good to hear and see.
Arm The Homeless
@gaz: So, I see you made it over by yourself.
So, in your opinion, best RATM album? I have to go with Battle of LA, oddly enough its the one album that I think has the most cogent lyrics and Morello really seemed to find his melodic guitar-voice particularly well on that one.
*Edited for clarity
TrishB
@Raven: Cool. Sorry, I missed that it had been posted already.
I’m a sucker for the pups. I keep telling my eldest that her meds cost more than my car each month, but then she licks my ears, and all is forgotten.
scav
@Arm The Homeless: You know her best by a long shot. I’d just be more worried about the wrong ring for eternity rather than size of the raw materials (where you contribute not only the stones but your familial past and your hopes). But that’s in the abstract: see first statement. Best of luck in this and later.
Snowball
@Baud:
You haven’t seen all the negative right-wing commercials that will hit as the real campaign starts. The low information voter tend to be heavily persuaded by those. Look at how successful the swift boaters were . Or just how successful the GOP was in 2010 in persuading the voters that the Dems were the problems for our country. This in spite of Bush/Cheney leaving office in disgrace just two years earlier.
Arm The Homeless
@scav: Thanks for the well wishes. I guess my real concern is that I was going to ask her folks (anachronistic, I know) and do the popping of question on the same visit; I just didn’t want to look like a fool giving her something she can’t even put on and that needs a new prong in the setting.
This proposal is bringing out weird anal-retentive streaks in me. Kinda scary
Jay in Oregon
@Snowball:
They weren’t frogmarched out of the White House in handcuffs, and Cheney is allowed to show his miserable face on TV. Not exactly what I would call “in disgrace.”
(GWB seems to be keeping a low profile, which is the best I can hope for at this point, I guess…)
TrishB
@Arm The Homeless: Not trying to scare you, but it kind of ticked me off when my husband to be asked my folks first. It may be traditional, but it made no sense to me as a 31 year old. And this was despite the fact the ring was in my family and needed quite a bit of work.
Arm The Homeless
@TrishB: I felt the same way, I think it’s silly to ask for their blessing during the trip and then come up with some asinine lead-in like, “So, I love your daughter, mind if we decide to get hitched?” But I am hoping that I can do it on a football-Sunday so her mom will at least have something to focus on other than me.
Omnes Omnibus
@Arm The Homeless: FWIW I don’t know that the ring and all the rest are important. It’s nice, and, if you can get a cool story out of it, that is wonderful. If you guys are ready to get married, then don’t sweat the details.
Raven
@TrishB: Oh, I’m glad you posted it!
Arm The Homeless
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, I can’t speak to the “ready” part, but she is everything I could ever want: Smart in the things I am not, sweet, a great cook, wonderful friend, glittering sense of humor, and she ain’t too hard on the eyes either. Now if I could only make the lessons on hockey rules stick
Look at me, a year ago I was ready to be on a plane to New Zealand next month, now I am trying to figure out if i can convince her to avoid South Dakota for a tenure position. I guess Lennon was right, life is what happens in between making plans
Julie
@Arm The Homeless: I don’t think they have the Shane Company or Fred Meyer in Florida, but I imagine they have something similar. I know both places will put any diamond you bring in in a plain, basic setting and give you a credit if you bring it back in once you and your lady have decided what type of setting she wants. :)
When my husband proposed, he used a diamond that had been his mother’s but had the Shane Co put it in a plain white gold setting so I could choose what I wanted myself. We eventually wound up going somewhere local for the final setting (http://www.abcjewelry.net/custom.php), but the whole idea worked really well. Good luck, and congratulations!
Omnes Omnibus
@Arm The Homeless: Ultimately, my point was that you shouldn’t be anal-retentive about the details. If you want to marry her, do it. The rest is details.
Arm The Homeless
@Julie: That’s actually a really good idea.
There are two white diamond accents that I wanted to use as seed money towards the new setting, but I hate haggling and I know that I am going to get ripped off if I try to include that in the deal.
When I lived in Denver, Shane Co. was the bees-knees for this type of stuff, but I have heard horror stories about the jewelers in town, so I am trying to avoid that if possible.
Arm The Homeless
@Omnes Omnibus: I understand where you’re coming from. I am trying not to get too wrapped up in the details, but it’s hard not to want everything to be perfect, even though I know that isn’t going to happen.
I appreciate the sentiment, very much.
Omnes Omnibus
@Arm The Homeless: My brother did one of the best things I have ever seen. he just walked up to his now-wife as she was taking off her coat at my parents how and casually handed her a ring. Her reaction was, “What the hell is this I am trying to take my coat off and your parents want people to take their shoes off so I am doing that too OH MY GOD!”
Anyway, cheers and best wishes however you do it.
suzanne
@Arm The Homeless:
Do you need to actually design the whole thing from the ground up, or do you want to select an already-designed setting and use your rocks in it? Most good jewelers (not in the mall) have loads of settings, and have catalogs and can order practically anything you want. If you want something completely custom, you’ll have to find a craftsperson.
suzanne
@Arm The Homeless:
Ain’t that the truth.
Arm The Homeless
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s quite sweet. Did anyone else know it was going down like that? I haven’t even thought about how I would manage to actually ASK her. I figured it would probably be me getting antsy and just asking during a commercial break of Real Housewives of Atlanta.
@suzanne: She wants a quote from Henri Bergson (in French, of course) inscribed around the band, and the main stone is an odd pear-cut thing that probably needs six prongs, so I imagine it will have to be a custom job. That Lennon guy sure had some smart stuff to say.
suzanne
@Arm The Homeless: Pear-shaped stones aren’t that unusual. Might I make a suggestion? (My now-husband did a great job selecting my ring almost three years ago, and I love it.) Avoid prongs if possible—it’s easy to get hair caught in them. I don’t know where you live, but he went to these people. I bet you could call them and they could refer you to someone in your area.
suzanne
@Arm The Homeless: OT, but did you get your “name” from what Tom Morello has on his guitar?
Arm The Homeless
@suzanne: I will bookmark that link, thanks
Yeah, Morello is my guitar idol. I bought every book and tablature collection I could find, studied videos, and still can’t figure out exactly how he makes that opening riff in Bulls On Parade with an allen wrench.
dead existentialist
@Suffern ACE: @Baud: THIS exchange made my night. Kudos.
MacKenna
After reading this, I’m beginning to wonder who isn’t a Republican?
Angela
@Arm The Homeless: I’m not sure what region you are looking, but we had my wedding ring made by Morgan Sonsthagen Jewelry in Denver, Co Wash Park area. He helped us design it and I still love it 12 years later.
EDIT: It was a custom design from the ground up.
AxelFoley
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
Fuck Shark Boy.
Chuck Butcher
@Arm The Homeless:
I could hook you up with a guy who is a pro and makes beautiful stuff, the catch is NE, OR.
Yutsano
@Omnes Omnibus: He pops the question in dress blues. No arguments. :)
Triassic Sands
@amk:
It’s a good, but flawed cartoon. List two doesn’t have “the poor” on it. And the poor are always first on the Republican’s hit list.
Snowball
@Jay in Oregon:
I guess we define disgrace differently.
When Clinton left office, he left it after having watched over an economy that took off when he took office and stayed that way until he left office.
When Bush left office, the economy was in a free fall. It was easily the worst since the Great Depression. He presided over the unpopular bailout. He managed a war that had turned extremely unpopular.
This is what I mean by leaving in disgrace. Voters were ready to see him leave office as soon as possible. And yet two years later the low information voter thought the Democrats were the problem. This can easily happen again in 2012 once the negative ads start pounding the Dems.
Paul in KY
@The prophet Nostradumbass: It’s an ersatz sports pub where every dish has cheese on it.
They usually have nice TVs.
Paul in KY
@Arm The Homeless: I like the one that has ‘Chop Suey’ on it. Not ‘Battle of LA’, I think.
Stentor
I came up with my own version of that:
Republicans – Wrong for Americans,
Wrong for America.
McJulie
@Snowball: Voters were ready to see him leave office as soon as possible. And yet two years later the low information voter thought the Democrats were the problem. This can easily happen again in 2012 once the negative ads start pounding the Dems
That’s one theory. Other theories include:
1. People more likely to vote Democrat are more likely to vote in a presidential election year.
2. The people pissed off by the results of the previous election are more likely to vote next time.
3. The teaparty was hitting its peak of bright shiny excitement right about then and was able to motivate right-leaning voters to the polls. The shiny has now worn off.
4. Impatient see-sawing. 2 years of Democrats = economy not fixed. Let’s give the Republicans a try. 2 years of Republicans = economy not fixed, no movement at all toward fixing the economy, plus endless craziness and drama and stupidity on parade. Let’s give the Democrats a try?
5. The Obama factor. People motivated to vote in 2008 so they could vote for him didn’t have him on the ballot in 2010. They will in 2012. Are those people all so disillusioned now that this won’t matter? I can’t say. But I think things like his fundraising success so far indicate that the answer is no.
6. Howard Dean needs to be reinstated as DNC chair, stat!
Yutsano
@McJulie:
Okay I agree Tim Kaine was pretty weak here. But what’s wrong with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz? I think she’s doing pretty good.