It looks like Chris Dodd, who yesterday was launching threats at the President, may have overstepped his bounds just a tad:
The White House appeared to brush back a suggestion from the Motion Picture Association of America on Friday that the president step in on negotiations over controversial online piracy legislation.
MPAA Chairman and former Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) suggested Thursday that the White House would be the perfect place to convene a summit between Hollywood and the tech industry, which are at odds over a pair of online piracy bills that were shelved by congressional leadership Friday morning following massive protests earlier in the week.
White House press secretary Jay Carney said the Obama administration has made its position clear on the issue and appeared to dismiss the suggestion in a press briefing on Friday. The White House expressed concern about the Stop Online Piracy Act and Protect IP Act last week, adding fuel to the growing opposition.
Obama rode into the White House on the backs of a tech savvy operation made up of people, who, unlike Chris Dodd and too many congresscritters to count, actually understand the internet. It’s not surprising that the Obama admin understands why these bills suck and opposed them. That Dodd was just trying to throw his weight around yesterday just makes this all the sweeter.
BTW, via the always excellent Jon Rogers, here is a great rundown of why the bills were so bad, from a tv writer’s perspective.
Fed Up In Brooklyn
I’m a member of the DGA and unfortunately had to fight my own union leadership over these terrible bills.
The second link is incorrect, I think.
Obama also gets a lot of campaign funds from people in the entertainment industry.
I’m looking forward to the next round of this ongoing battle.
White House apparently did not use the term “Salted Dicks.” I am disappointed.
He more than likely still will. I can’t find the article now, but he has three scheduled fundraisers in LA next week (or thereabouts) with only on cancellation. They ain’t going to the dark side any time soon.
Dodd is just another Domino in the ascendant need for Publicly Funded Elections.
Wo ist der outrage?
This buzz about Romney not committing to Monday debate is insane. Is he having an actual melt-down – in the clinical sense?
If he loses by five points in SC he cannot drop out of the Florida debate. Precisely because he lost SC in a debate. He is going to look like a coward if he bails now.
His handlers made a terrible mistake when they didn’t limit his availability months ago. Now it’s too late – and he is getting more and more fragile and scared in every debate. That manic, giggling cave troll is waiting to maul Mitt again and again – week after week. And Romney was too stupid to see this trap.
This is why I subscribe to his twitter.
Marta is actually an editor. Not to mention my neighbor. I’ll tell her you said hello!
Question – why ‘salted’ dicks?
What do you have against unsalted dicks, Cole? You just enjoy the taste of salted ones better?
Or do you find the taste of salted dicks worse, so you are adding that as a bit more insult?
Inquiring minds want to know – do you prefer the taste of salted or unsalted?
Villago Delenda Est
Suddenly, it seems like the MPAA hired a lightweight, not a heavyweight.
Dodd has burned some bridges. My heart pumps buttermilk for him.
the only answer to this is that his entire team has been wrapped in that ‘inevitability’ bubble and are clueless and totally unprepared about how to run a campaign now that they have been forced out of it.
Markos Moulitsas, October 18, 2007
Romney has a fatal glass jaw. That’s why I predicted the goopers were going to end up going for Newt, cuz Romney’s too much of an elitist Mormon weenie for the common morans, but the establishment and Newt are going to have to go scorched earth state by state until the convention. It’s on.
It was supposed to be a coronation (and was, for a while; how many debates were there where he was barely addressed by his competitors)…
…but I think the only way he could have handled this tax thing worse is if he had lopped off actual body parts in the process.
I am stunned that after all the fussing, it was a Virtual Demonstration: See this website? It’s going away! that cut through the clutter, and created a storm of lobbying from actual people.
I think you mean “he will *be* a coward if he bails now.”. And you better believe that Newt (and probably Santorum) would spend a good chunk of that debate attacking Romney in absentia.
The really truly scary thing is that as flawed a candidate Willard is, he’s still probably better than anyone else in the field. Obama v. Clinton this is not.
Personally, I prefer wasabi dicks.
@Cat Lady: I find the reports puzzling, but don’t have enough interest or time to find out exactly what is up.
Romney camp sending mixed signals about attending next debate, and NBC talking about canceling (why? because Romney might not show? WTF, that would be as bad ethics as Schieffer’s weekly GOP wingnut cavalcade ‘news’ show).
I guess I will read about in the news reports when the dust settles. Or see a headline like:
Romney Campaign: Irresistible Force or Warm Road Kill?
If things start looking up for GOP primaries, then I will get worried and pay more attention.
Tim F., Balloon Juice, December 30, 2007
As I said in the earlier thread, the Newt Super PAC is just pouring money into Eastern NC radio ads, they are on at every available ad break during the Laura show, the Limbaugh show and the Hannity show. They continue through the ad breaks of the local show. They feature Michele Bachman praising Newt from 2008 (I think). I am buying stock in popcorn.
@WereBear (itouch): Well, sometimes it takes stuff like that to work. On the other side of that, there was a twitter account out there Wed. retweeting frantic/bitching tweets about Wikipedia missing that was just too funny, albeit in a sad way. I have no idea how people could go to Wikipedia, have a twitter account, presumably a facebook account as well, and not know wtf was going on. Anyone who couldn’t figure out what the protest was for should not be using computers.
Cole thinks he is superior. I thought he read the comments.
Which reminds me
“Eat a Bag of Salted Dicks”
Now that the subject has come up, is that some kind of ‘Barrens Chatter’ or whatever it is? This crazy house blog is the only place I have ever seen it.
So Cole, are the Republicans still the party of internet freedom?
@David Koch: Lots of people liked Chris Dodd. He did some good stuff. That doesn’t mean that he isn’t being a total ass now.
Grifters gotta grift.
Ouch. Well, I guess this is why this place is called Balloon Juice…
I had an Edwards crush – standing up for the common man! Two Americas!
So, I can’t judge.
Villago Delenda Est
The thing about SOPA/PIPA is yes, the congresscritters supporting it don’t understand how the Internet works, but you can bet your last simoleon that the guys from the MPAA who drafted this shit know PRECISELY what it will do, and it’s all about slaying this thing that is going to kill them if the market is allowed to do its thing. Corporations hate and fear an actual free market, because they have to compete, that is, do some work to get consumer interest. They don’t want to do that. It’s fucking work, man.
Somebody on the (not affiliated with)Newt Super PAC made a strange ad purchase here in the Phoenix area. They’re running those spots on the local progressive station.
Cancelling because Romney won’t be there would be a shit storm. Imagine Newt’s fauxrage about being silenced by the liebral media in the tank for Romney, and it would make Newt and Ron Paul look like William Wallace at Stirling Bridge. Wolverines!
Villago Delenda Est
No, “eat a bag of salted dicks” is NOT Barrens chat.
“Eat a bag of salted dicks” is waay to mature for Barrens chat.
Or, rather, it’s not juvenile enough.
Mike in NC
Reports this afternoon were claiming Willard is reconciled to a loss in SC and is focusing on the Sunshine State. Except to see video of him visiting nursing homes around Miami handing out $100 bills.
The Megaupload take down may have been the Obama admin throwing the entertainment industry a bone. Trouble is, they have a voracious appetite. Various EU countries are also considering SOPA like remedies.
It’s easier for the entertainment industry to fight old battles than to devise new ways of dealing with technology. I recently saw an article in the trade press where some in the industry were happy that Netflix was having problems, and looking for ways to undermine streaming services. For example,
These people never learn. They would rather fight over the dollar that they might lose than find a way to earn many more by more creatively embracing technology.
@Ron: Dodd was, or pretended to be, a filibuster hero, when we needed one.
And I do not understand how a blogger saying what they think to be true (which is exactly what the examples commenter Koch presented are) indicates that they think they are superior.
Oh well, axe, meet grindstone.
Well this is all easily fixed.
Hey, Cole, your mother wears army boots and your cat is FAT FAT FATTTY FAT FAT, you ‘Barrens Chat’ loser.
@Ron: That’s so true. His father was censored by the Senate yet was instrumental in the Nuremberg trials.
There are ways to run a political publicity campaign for, about, 30% of the costs of running the standard political publicity campaign. The first step is not hiring a standard political publicity campaign consultant, which saves a whole bunch right there.
I just got this email below from Al Franken. Does this mean Obama is to the left (for whatever that means) of Franken on this one?
Or does this mean that, contrary to just about everything I’ve read online about PIPA/SOPA, there is some piece of “productive” legislation buried in them, somewhere?
I’m not being sarcastic — I actually feel kind of stupid asking both these questions. I read Marta Evry’s article, and the bills do look like shit. On the other hand, I’ve never disagreed with anything Franken said before. And the partisan politics are all upside down on this. Something is off, and I can’t wrap my head around it.
Or maybe it really is just corporate Hollywood influence.
Villago Delenda Est
Um, Apple only blindsided these assholes because they’re complacent. There are plenty of people in the industry who are internet saavy…they’re just not assholes in suits in executive suites…who probably have their secretaries print their email out for them to read.
OT, but seriously when will people realize Fox news has totally jumped the shark?
From The Annals Of Chutzpah
Newt Gingrich’s three marriages mean he might make a strong president????? REALLY!!
@drew42: damn it — I can’t edit the post. Everything below the blockquote is supposed to be part of the blockquote.
They all do. It’s a curse.
If the media companies were interested … as in really, really, really interested … they could – off the top o’ me head – stop showing the Drivel-n-Dreck and produce a “product” people want to pay money to watch.
A silly idea, I concede. But my own.
Is ABL in this thread?
@Kola Noscopy: really?
@Brachiator: I used to work for Redbox. The major studios used to dick around with DVD release dates mostly to get more favourable licensing contracts. The response was to show our usage numbers and half the time they’d meet in the middle. They know they don’t make money if they can’t get the product out there. And even with all that Redbox makes money hand over fist.
@burnspbesq: Okay, now I know you are an effin freak. Unfortunately, I’ve been sent that deeply perverted Japanese video! (why are all the craziest porn videos japanese??)
It was sent to me by a buddy, and I turned that shit off after two seconds.
Wow – well played, sir, well played.
Chris Dodd’s lied filled senate speech announcing he will join Bush and Lieberman efforts to kill 100,000 Iraqis.
You forgot the obligatory FYWP.
Gin & Tonic
They do. The public wants mindless garbage. I mean, look at “Jersey Shore”, which alone pulled Viacom’s nuts out of the frying pan. Three “Pirates of the Caribbean” movies have together grossed over $3 billion. The people have spoken.
@Kola Noscopy: (sigh) nevermind
@drew42: I think the big thing is the trust factor. Does he law give anyone the explicit power to shut down Youtube? No. But I think American corporations and their version of the “free market” has given us all a healthy dose of cynicism. My first thought when I read “stop online piracy” was to wonder what exaclty they planned on doing; I just know that was not the only intent. Can I prove it? Is it more than a feeling? No. But I will never trust these rat fuckers to not be looking for ways to manipulate every single hazy, vague, ambiguous nuance of any law written to thier own benefit.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@drew42: My take is that he doesn’t quite understand what the bill does and how it would affect the internet, especially regarding how people and companies would use the rules.
The big thing about the bill is that it allows someone to make a claim of a copyright violation, and take it to an ISP without having verified it. The bill makes it so that it is in the ISP’s interest to block the site without actually verifying anything. And for companies that are actually trafficking in copyrighted material, it will be easy for them to work around the blocking, as has already been demonstrated.
Good nick for Mitt.
Never seen that before. Cough Hillary Cough
@drew42: I think it’s going to be difficult to thread the needle between the competing interests here, just like it will also be difficult to do anything sensible with immigration policy. “Left” and “right” are going to be all in a mess.
@Gin & Tonic: I will never understand this thinking.
@Gin & Tonic:
Not as such.
Consumption of TV entertainment has risen only marginally – relative to population growth – since 85-86. Film audiences have been dropping a steady 1 to 2% per year over the last 12 years (or so.)
I don’t know anything about the ‘suit’ side of the TV business but I’m willing to bet you
$10,000one jumbo sized bag of salty dicks the reason “Jersey Shore” saved Viacom is (a) they got lucky and (b) the rest of their output was fer-shit and nobody watched it.
This from the Faux News shrink who “diagnosed” Obama’s “narcissism”.
Gin & Tonic
@Anoniminous: Well, sure they got lucky. They got lucky because everybody and his uncle watches that trash. MTV’s highest ratings in years. People love it.
WTF? Did he go and hire all of Hillary’s campaign advisers or something?
@Gin & Tonic: 6 million viewers is not everyone and his uncle.
ot, I’m sure most of us have seen Colbert’s epic “performance” on Morning Joe this morning, but if ya didn’t hear is a highlight reel from TPM. It truly was fantastic. Do yourself a favor and watch the whole segment if you can find it. The way Colbert had the whole lot of ’em in stitches and discombobulated and “Dick” Halperin, Mika, Joe et al trying to ask “serious” questions of Colbert was hilarious.
Stephen Colbert Talks ‘Open Marriages’ On Morning Joe
“ya know if you say Ron Paul’s real name he will teach you to turn hay to gold…”
Edited quote: “ya know if you say Ron Paul’s real name he has to tech you how to turn hay to gold…”
Only Stephen Colbert could make a Rumpilstilskin joke. If you see the whole clip you can see which of the “crew” got da joke. Joe Scar seems particularly tickled.
I think the phrase you’re looking for is “Consistently Wrong Since 2002”.
They do. What people don’t realize is that most of the people who go to movies aren’t in the US, so films are not made for the US audience anymore.
When you know that less than half of your box office is going to be made in the US market — and in most cases, more like 1/3rd in the US market — why would you make films that primarily appeal to that market?
I had nothing against enhanced penalties for counterfeiting (and something else too, I forget what it was, but it was aimed more at people that burn 10,000 dvd to sell on streetcorners than at somebody who missed one ep of Dr Who.)
@Gin & Tonic:
You know something? I’ve never actually met a fan of that show. Plenty of people who hate it, and who pity the teeming masses of idiots who like it, but never anyone who actually likes it.
@lamh35: OK, the clip of excerpts was fun. I am now going, for the first time in my life, to the Mornin’ Joe web site, whatever the is is, I guess probably some MSNBC tab or frame. Anyway, I will go there to whatever thingee it is, and give Monrnin’ Joe, traffic, to watch this.
OK, gritting teeth and holding breath.. I go.. cli..
I think you mean “never anyone who admits they like it”. I’m sure you’ve met people who find it a guilty pleasure and watch it regularly but bash it publicly because they don’t want anyone to know. It’s kind of like wingnuts and their hatred of teh ghey.
@Roger Moore: I think you are pirating very valuable intellectual property (maybe all that he has, poor penniless old widow) of one John G. Cole. Pretty soon that kind of thing will get this blog shut down, buddy.
@Kola Noscopy: So says a defender of child rape. Fuck you Kola, you stupid pedophile.
Gin & Tonic
@Spaghetti Lee: Of course you don’t. Like Pauline Kael and Nixon voters.
As usual, Obama is merely saying one thing and doing another.
Pay attention to what Obama actually does about intellectual property.
Obama has appointed five RIAA lawyers to prominent positions in his administration — one former RIAA lawyer, Obama made his Solicitor General.
Obama privately loves bills like SOPA and PIPA and he undoubtedly secretly gave the green light for those bills to be introduced. For all I know, Obama’s own Solicitor General probably even wrote the language of the SOPA and PIPA bills.
The Obama got taken aback by the firestorm of public criticism and told his RIAA toadies, “Sorry, guys, but it’s an election year, so I gotta backpedal on this stuff. But rest assured we’ll ram through SOPA and PIPA the month after I get re-elected.”
Typical Obama. Says one thing, does another. The fact that Obama has come out publicly against SOPA is the surest sign that the loves the bill and will work hard to pass it when he gets re-elected.
See if I’m not right.
Hear it now, believe it later.
I also think these latest moves have been totally about re-election. I hope you and I are both wrong,
Actually, Obama has been more and more the President that we internet liberals want. Not pulling punches anymore – too wit:
a. today’s rules on contraception
b. Appointing of Cordray
c. Today’s backtrack on SOPA. Still counts.
d. The continued hammering of the 1%. (Faux or not, because it is a good campaign move or not, good to hear it).
e. The various ways that the administration has NOT given in to the Rethugs recently.
Not perfect – but pretty good.
Oh – Keystone XL decision.
Take the good when we get it.
Was anybody really expecting better than that?
@mclaren: Sigh. Hillary will still never be President. Get. Over. It.
This is ‘3-4 permanent unwinnable wars’ Mclaren. The actions you’re supposed to see are in his/her/its imagination.
@Roger Moore: Oh my. That cumulative comment was balloon-juicy!
What time does the Dave & Roger show air on a station near me?
@dead existentialist: Just Tivo it.
Odie Hugh Manatee
The reason given (first reference to this I saw by a commenter at Redstate) is because his having had three wives proves “his studliness”.
I kid you not. Noot, a… stud? That makes him presidential?!
Wingers are really weird.
Dodd is not allowed to fully lobby Congress yet for another year because he just left the Senate. So I wonder if some of his “let’s meet at the White House” thing has something to do with that.
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Bobo and thigh massages, par exemple.
I would like to know how much Al Franken cost
pseudonymous in nc
And for all we know, you are Newt’s fourth-wife-in-waiting.
Your concern is noted.
I hear he’s a secret Mooslim, too.
The prophet Nostradumbass
On SOPA/PIPA, he didn’t “cost” anything. Nobody had to buy him off on this issue.
Sated with the comfort of the fact that I rooted for Obama since 2004.
Eff, ewe, Koch.
And you know this because you’re a telepath, and you did a surreptitious deep scan the last time you were at the White House? Okey-dokey.
Well, whatever else you might know, you know jack-shit about how DOJ is organized.
Back away from the bong, slowly, with both hands where we can see them.
@burnspbesq: McBlahBlah is just channeling his inner Glenn Greenwald.
@burnspbesq: as long as you know you arguing with a crazy person, have fun.
@arguingwithsignposts: Her, I believe.
@lamh35: Oh thank you!
And if a couple overlapping laugh lines don’t bother you, definitely check out the Cain-Colbert rally (Raw Story link).
It’s at a university, and the school’s gospel choir is standing arrayed behind the headliners. Watching their expressions was pretty interesting, though most of them keep a sterner profile than Joe and Mika…
@arguingwithsignposts: Every BJ commenter knows everything about everything, past present and future. I thought that was a given.
No responses need to this comment, I know what you are going to type.
@Lyrebird: The choir probably has a reputation to uphold.
@mclaren: Is prediction in anyway similar to the “Obama secretly hates gay people and doesn’t really support repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell because executive order and Rick Warren and Donnie McClurkin and lithium firetruck purple-nurple rocketship!” stuff from last year that turned out to be so prescient?
@Omnes Omnibus: @arguingwithsignposts: Self-identified female. Take that for what it’s worth.
@Yutsano: Courtesy dictates that one respect the self-ID.
Coronation? This is bad comedy.
You’re still a douche, I see.
Don’t you realize that by repealing DADT, it proves he hates gays.
Back in the old days of MyDD, I once had someone tell me Obama was a homophobe cause he won’t issue an executive order ending DADT, but Bill Clinton’s creation of said policy was a stroke of genius.
But the Republicans come out looking like defenders of internet freedom, right Markos?
Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/sopa-blackout-prompts-hollywood-elites-to-stop-donating-to-obama/#ixzz1k4VPfuxx
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@Yutsano: I’ve learned that 90% of the self-identified females on the Internet are guys. The two options available are to assume that everyone on the Internet is male, or decide that you don’t fucking care and people should be allowed to be whoever the fuck they want to be.
Just so long as they don’t claim special expertise on anything. Then verification matters. And I still haven’t seen your diploma or anything.
@burnspbesq: I prefer the Dix Mix medley.
For the record, I’m the author of the SOPA piece linked above and yes, as DDay pointed out, I’m a film editor,not a writer.
Glad y’all liked the post – I wrote it in response to IATSE’s (my union) support of SOPA/PIPA. I sent it to hundreds of fellow IA and guild members – the response was overwhelmingly positive. IA’s leadership is totally out of step with its own members on this issue.
@jl: It’s so hard to stay au courant out here in the sticks of NW Arkansas. I try, I try. What is “Barrens chatter”?
The real second link is from The Hill blog.
I hate to break up the Manichean tone here, but what a sad, sad, pathetic end to Dodd’s fine career of public service. He was my second choice in 2008 precisely because he was a policy guy who was on the right side of most issues (including that great prototypical emoprog shiny bauble FISA bill telecom immunity).
Then he had a moral stumble, the kind that people who’ve been in politics too long often make. When you’ve had a lot of power for a long time, it’s easy, very, very easy, for the lines between what’s truly due you because of your office and what you can get just because you have power to slowly fade away without your ever noticing. So he went to the nation’s leading mortgage lender for a loan on a second house, got a sweet deal he didn’t ask, for because he was a powerful Senator. The moral failing, of course, was that it he couldn’t have been unaware that being a powerful senator was likely to get him special treatment and it never even occurred to tell them not to give him special treatment, because, after thirty years, noticing special treatment for the powerful is like a fish noticing water.
And, it turned out, it was exactly the wrong time for him to have received special treatment from Countrywide, what with the coming expiration of his term, and the collapse of Countrywide into scandal and bankruptcy and ruin, and the economic collapse and massive outbreak of public anger at everyone connected. So he left rather than lose, vowing never to become a lobbyist.
It was a moment when he could have reached for a redemptive second career, taken on a worthy cause that would have erased the stain from the memory of his long and worthy record of public service.
And, rather than do that, he chose to do the one thing best calculated to prove that every bad thing that was said about him at the end was true. It’s like a person who messily ruined his or her marriage by giving in to temptation seeking “redemption” by shacking up to a trailer with sleaziest unwashed skank or sleazy manwhore in town.
@Marta Evry: That was a friggin’ great post, when I read it from John Rogers’ blog and here. Thank YOU.
Local 700 member here. Just one more member that they are out of step with on this issue.
@Jebediah: Thanks so much! Glad to hear it.