Downstairs, Zandar linked McMegan’s latest mind-yammerings in The Atlantic, and like some unstoppable idiot, I got out of the boat and read her article. Ostensibly the article is supposed to be a response to Jeffrey Goldberg’s article. In actuality, it’s her traditional steaming pile of brain-shit.
I know it’s been All Komen All Day over here, but with apologies to Monsieur Levenson, I want to highlight one of her “arguments” (such as they are):
Nor do I think that this [Komen defunding Planned Parenthood] is somehow fatal–indeed, the news of the Komen foundation’s funding withdrawal was met by an outpouring of donations that, as of this writing, has nearly replaced the lost funds. And I don’t think that’s an accident. If Planned Parenthood didn’t provide abortions–if it had decided, post-Roe, to continue doing all the contraception provision and pelvic exams, but to stay out of the abortion side of the business–many of the people who now send them large checks probably wouldn’t bother. I’d guess that a considerable portion of their donor base is making an expressive commitment to abortion rights, but of course, the flip side of that is people who make an expressive decision not to give them money.
What would make Miss 1500 Dollar Food Processor think that those who are donating money to Planned Parenthood are making an expressive commitment to abortion rights, as opposed to making an expressive commitment to women’s health for low-income women? I donate to Planned Parenthood because I appreciate the fact that when I was broke and had no health insurance in the early 90s, I was able to go to Planned Parenthood for non-abortion services. I’ve never had an abortion (not that there’s anything wrong with it). I suspect thousands of women have availed themselves of Planned Parenthood’s services without getting abortions. I am certainly pleased that an organization like Planned Parenthood champions the reproductive rights of women, and has not given in to Forced Birth Propaganda (the sort of propaganda to which Karen Handel, Nancy Brinker, and others have fallen prey.) Women have a right to decide for themselves what goes in and out of their bodies. The government has no right to force women to quarter fetuses in their wombs. Isn’t it against, like, the Third Amendment or something? No? Well it should be!
But, more important than offering abortion services (THREE PERCENT, folks!), Planned Parenthood is often the only option available for low-income women to obtain healthcare related to their lady-business. As asiangrrlMN noted in her post, 76% of their clients have incomes at or below 150% of the federal poverty level.
So fuck you very much, Megan McArdle.
UPDATE: Oh and there’s this too (not McMegan-related) from Daily Kos:
In 2000, when I first became a breast cancer activist, one of my first assignments was contacting the senators and members of Congress in my area to encourage their support for the Breast & Cervical Cancer Prevention & Treatment Act. The bill was to provide Medicaid coverage for uninsured women diagnosed through the Breast & Cervical Cancer Prevention & Screening Act, which had been passed several years earlier. IOW, the Treatment Act was necessary because uninsured women were getting no-cost breast cancer diagnosis, but still had no means to pay for treatment.
Sounds easy, right? You screen and diagnose them, you have to help them get treatment. Except one of my GOP senators didn’t see it that way, and he had another breast cancer group who agreed with him….
Upon calling my GOP senator and speaking with his aide, I was shocked to hear her tell me “Sen.__ can’t sign on as a co-sponsor to the bill because all the breast cancer groups aren’t in agreement on it.” Shocked, I asked her who was opposing it. She told me that Komen opposed the bill. When I asked her why, she explained that Komen felt that treatment for uninsured breast cancer patients should be funded through private donations, like the pink ribbon race. I was speechless, in shock. A phone call to another activist confirmed it was true – Komen was lobbying behind the scenes to kill the bill. A moment later, Sen.__’s aide called me back and begged me not to repeat our conversation to anyone, that she had given me the information by mistake.
Thus my lesson about Komen began in 2000. They spend a lot of money lobbying for a very different agenda.
Skeletons are tumbling out of the Komen Kloset.[somewhat cross-posted at Angry Black Lady Chronicles]
Planned Parenthood helped me out when I was a broke graduate student, and it had nothing to do with abortion. There really is a war on women going on, isn’t there?
Glad to see your return ABL, but why do we have to have multiple threads on the same topic?
ABL, my sincere apologies for this off-topic comment, but sweet baby jesus, I HAVE to share this with the Juicers. No, this is not an Onion article as far as I can tell:
“Support Christian Porn, Let’s Purify Porn”
If all of these anti Planned Parenthood people would start campaigning for universal health care I might consider the argument that they don’t hate women.
It has to be parody.
“Oh come all ye faithful”?
And it’s not just women. When my business was failing and I had no insurance, PP was there when I wanted/needed HIV testing. It cost me, as I recall, $10 where an office visit plus a blood test at any other clinic would have run upwards of $100. They are there for all low income people.
If Planned Parenthood didn’t have anything to do with abortion, I would still support them (not that they would have been defunded in that case). We’re talking about the ONLY source for the health care needs of many women in poor and rural communities. How is that not worthy of support? Frankly, if someone said, “I don’t care about any of that other stuff, I only give because they do abortions!” I wouldn’t be especially impressed with that person.
I was going to make a donation to PP last night but then my wife told me she already went ahead and made a donation for us. So then I donated anyway. The idea that an organization this valuable should become the focus of a partisan smear campaign is just sickening.
Can I volunteer to be an actor in one of the productions showing the downfalls of adultery and the wickedness of threesomes and lesbianism involving hot, cornfed, midwest young wives?
I disagree: Handel and Brinker are the propagandists, not the prey.
Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937
Shorter McMegan: I don’t know what I’m taking about but let me speculate wildly in order to satisfy my contractual obligation to write about something other than economics (because that’s my really weak suit).
“it’s her traditional steaming pile of brain-shit” is even shorter. Well played!
@dogwood: i know it seems excessive, but i wanted to highlight this particular argument because it’s sickening, dripping in privilege, and because a lot of juicers don’t want to give McMoron any traffic.
Brinker really seems to have the PR abilities of an angry goat. Did you catch her explaining to Andrea Mitchell that the response to the decision has been overwhelmingly favorable.
@taylormattd: Oh my. That’s quite …special.
@taylormattd: Dude, there is an open thread right under this one that has been open for the last two hours. Rather than apologize for being off-topic, why not just post it there?
Don’t worry about it.
A. Important issues deserve “excessive” commentary, and this is important, and
B. Yippee! You’re back!
Because porn, as a topic, is always current.
J. Michael Neal
@Yevgraf: At any rate, I get better ads on the sidebar if someone mentions porn in every thread.
Oh, it’s parody all right. In fact, it’s very much of an ilk with ChristWire. I wonder if those people have anything to do with this one.
I’ve always felt like Megan, Planned Parenthood is the best way to ensure that I get the most dead babies/$ that I donate. After all, since I’m a liberal, killing babies is all that matters to me.
Honestly, I cracked up when it got to: In Rod We Trust.
And yes, of course it’s a parody — take a look at the parent site.\
Edited to Add: On second thought, I’m not entirely sure whether the home page indicates parody or manically bonkers.
First of all, no such thing as too many posts on this subject.
Second, what really grates on me about all the hating is that Planned Parenthood, through making contraception available to women of all income levels, prevents more abortions every year than all of these alleged “pro-life” groups combined. Once source I read estimated that Planned Parenthood prevents 800,000 abortions a year.
If abortion was such a money-maker for PP, as the anti-abortionists claim, then why would PP be preventing 800,000 of them a year? It’s almost like they’re putting women’s health first, or something…
Third, of course, the SGK money was for breast health anyway.
The only good thing to come out of this is that SGK made the announcement early enough in the year that my friends who participate in their assorted rides/walks/races haven’t come asking for contributions yet, and I suspect most of them aren’t going to. I did one RftC back in the mid-1990’s, but was so disgusted that, at the time, men weren’t allowed to run unless they were breast-cancer survivors themselves, that I never did it again. Speaking as someone whose mom died at 35 from breast cancer, it pissed me off no end that my father and brother couldn’t participate. I know they changed the NYC policy in 2003, but my opinion of them was colored, so to speak. And I hate pink.
Bwahahahaha LUDICROUS COMBO!
Terrorist Fist Jabs(tm) for errybody!
I just watched Nancy Brinker’s interview with Andrea Mitchell. Did she call Paula Dean for advice?
David Corn over at MoJones is reporting that Komen gives research money to Penn State. The same Penn State under investigation by the feds for the Sandusky Child Rape thingie.
(sorry if this was posted before, and for no link, gotta hit the road)
I too was unable to look away early enough and found myself reading McMegan. Where my gag reflex kicked in was
(I read “I’m pro-choice, thought I don’t much want anyone to actually have the opportunity to have an abortion.”)
And the reason that abortion is somehow other than “incidental to Planned Parenthood’s services” is that in too many places they’re the last ones standing with the guts to offer it. Because, evaluated by any reasonable basis (say on the fraction of PP’s expenditures it consumes) abortion is “incidental to Planned Parenthoods’s services.”
TBogg’s on faaar with this today, also, too “shorters” McMegan.
Don’t want to extrapolate too much from the blogosphere to the general population, but I think this Komenlapse has some legs, i.e., not disappearing over the weekend.
But, but, but, contraception is icky. Santorum haz told me so.
ABL @ Top:
I already posted my (somewhat lengthy) thoughts on McMegan’s braincurdlings downstairs, so I’ll just link them here and here.
For some purposes, lives are fungible too.
Tbogg is right. I suggest Komen go out of business and declare to the public that they are just serving their goals, in the context of requirements for the highest standards of ethics and integrity (and also, too, cowardice and dishonesty)
” I have to say that killing women with breast cancer before they might consider abortion sometime in their lives is one way to eliminate a woman’s right to choose. ”
@taylormattd: oh sweet mary mother of goat: please tell me that’s not real.
i think my brain just vomited.
@JGabriel: “schadenfreudeliciously” — yum!
Blog load is hanging up on connection to something called media fastclick. That’s a hoot.
@Nicole: I think one of the things that really angers me about the right’s objection to the work that PP does, has to do with contraception and education. It’s like they only want to promote the fact that the only possible way to avoid pregnancy is abstention. If you don’t want unwanted pregnancies, you need both of these!
so we kill the bill to diagnose early so women can get REALLY sick with cancer and Komen gets more money claiming treatment should be funded privately. Just fucking swell.
@trollhattan: When I see pink, I see a coward spinning a web.
@taylormattd, ABL: Go to the home page; reassuringly, it’s a parody. I’m encouraged whenever the crazy retreats even a little bit.
And they’re not just de-funding Planned Parenthood, they’re also defunding embryonic stem cell research! And Ms. Brinker just lied and lied and lied on Andrea Mitchell’s show (now available on video); doubling down on her subterfuge about how this isn’t political and that the crazed right winger Karen Handel had nothing to do with this pathetic action.
I feel utterly betrayed by what I thought was a great charity; they are instead nothing more than slimy right wing grifters who dupe people out of money to enrich their execs.
I just read the update about Koman lobbying against Medicaid funding breast cancer treatment. Allow me to
stealadapt the writing of the great John Rogers of Kung Fu Monkey as it seem the only appropriate (written) response:
I hate them with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns. I dream that they died and wake up laughing.
now mcmegtard is trying to protect SGK against criticisms of their budget and effectiveness in achieving their stated goals.
Good on Mayor Bloomberg (from CNN):
@patroclus: Didn’t she remind you of Paula Dean though? Tomorrow will be excuse number 45 but like Paula she will not admit be responsible for creating the hornets nest. IOKIYR
Fuck these fuckers. FUCK THESE FUCKERS!
Goddamn it, I am fucking furious now. Komen lobbies to kill breast cancer sufferers. This is what pink fucking ribbons now symbolize for me. How much can you hate a group like this? I don’t know, but the amount of hate I have building up is simply too much to bear.
I do think this is a great opportunity to get the word out there that, despite the propaganda the right-wingers have been pushing for decades, Planned Parenthood does a whole lot more than abortions. They offer comprehensive women’s healthcare, from pregnancy prevention to — gasp! — pre-natal and Well Baby care.
Yes, that’s right, “pro-life advocates.” If you decide you want to have a baby, Planned Parenthood will help you have a healthy one!
pseudonymous in nc
“Put A Ribbon On It!”
That sickens me. It’s a weird mirror-image a lot of the “big government” critiques. But SGK basically wants to make sure that its fucking pink ribbon is slapped all over the chemotherapy machine and the surgeons’ scrubs.
More proof that it’s far-right fanaticism at play:
I’m sure all the uninsured women with breast-cancer appreciate this opportunity to compete for limited private funds…
Back in 1969, I spent my wedding night at Planned Parenthood getting birth control pills. I was 18 then. But to the wingnuts, birth control is just pre-abortion, so although my husband and I only stayed together for 5 years, the wingers would have wanted me to have five screaming kids underfoot when my husband up and left. And they hate single mothers, too, so I couldn’t have won with them, no matter what I did.
TooManyJens (I think) pointed out in an earlier thread that there are a few unrelated orgs that also use the pink ribbon, though personally I doubt too many of them are at mass market stores since Komen has been suing the crap out of everyone who infringes on their “trademark.” If in doubt, read the packaging to see who the money goes to.
@Bulworth: What’s the problem..they just need to run faster. I know that’s sick but that’s the mentality of these folks.
Speaking of weekend, tomorrow’s Friday, and am wondering if Karen Handel might resign from SGK late sometime tomorrow. To “spend more time with her family.”
Although SGK is probably screwed whether she stays or goes, to some extent.
Oh, man, now I remember what tag I wanted Cole to add: This Dead Horse Ain’t Gonna Beat Itself.
Well, that may be. But the pink ribbon now means death to me and always will. Those other organizations need to find another symbol.
Somebody with greater graphics-art talent than me should design a “Komen for the Kill” logo with a pretty pink noose.
McMegan wants her friends to have access to legal abortion services for when one of their weekly sessions with the tennis instructor or the babysitter goes horribly wrong, but to suggest that the Poors have access to the same services is just icky and awful.
I love this, but it needs to be fixed for clarity:
There, that’s better.
Well, if I wanted to make an “expressive committment to abortion rights,” I think I could find a better way than by contributing to an organization that only devotes 3% of its budget to abortions. But when I want to make an “expressive committment” to telling Komen to EABOSD (it’s from a famoust TBogg rant v. Kristol, think about it), I made a donation to Planned Parenthood, in “honor” of Karen Handel, the right-wing troll at Komen behind this new policy.
@pseudonymous in nc:
geg6, your hate is becoming more and more deserved as facts come to light about SGK.
P in nc, yeah it’s all about the religious money for these fuckers.
Is there a rethug who is not a grifter? I’m about 5 minutes from deciding a definite no.
Well, since McMegan is kinda like the dog in “Up,” perhaps we can distract her with this squirrel:
I’ll be the whole thing is being bankrolled by the Koch brothers. It certainly can’t be financed by the proceeds from Part 1.
@fasteddie9318: True dat.
Very good post. The casual know-nothing slimy attribution of Megan’s post – yes, we donate to PP because WE LIKE ABORTIONS.
Jesus what a smug idiot.
@retr2327: I hope in honour of doesn’t mean in her name. I’d hate for her to get a tax deduction.
So, Komen basically exists to raise money from high-profile donors who like to have pink ribbons on their products? They probably get to write that shit off anyway. Even better that the “charity” gets them noticed in the yogurt aisle. Where does all that loot go? To pay for Komen’s existence?
I hate these fuckers for tricking me into believing they were helping people out. Are these the assholes MLB touts in May with the pink bats and wrist bands? Because I don’t think I can stomach that shit. It’s a bunch of glad-handing fucks plotting the best way to exploit the charitable nature of others to line their own pockets.
Last night around 4 am I signed up for a Planned Parenthood monthly donation, smaller than a one-tim shot, but better for their long-term planning.
Sometimes when I roll over in bed, I wake up sore and have to get up for a while to let the muscles and joints reset. I usually surf for 20-30 minutes and go back.
Last night I got so mad I emailed 25 friends with a link to the MoveOn petition and then made the donation. That positive step made me relax enough to go back to bed and sleep.
Truly, insomnia is a terrible thing.
No more Pink ribbons, anywhere!
I was informed by Kaiser in 1988 that I needed to be tested for HIV due a multiple-pint transfusion following surgery (in 1984? ’86?). I was paranoid about the test being in my records so I went to Planned Parenthood for an anonymous HIV test; there was no fee but they did suggest a donation of at least $10. I gave them $20.
Two years later everyone I knew was telling me they had been tested so I let Kaiser do the re-test that they wanted.
I will always be grateful to PP for their kindness. They understood exactly why I was paranoid. This was California in the 80s and there had been a law passed requiring hospitals to gather non-anonymous info about abortions from their women patients; the law was in effect when I had the hysterectomy but the nurse smiled and told me that they had to ask but I didn’t have to answer any of the questions.
@MikeJ: Nope, you can donate in the name of the VP of Fail to your heart’s content and still get to claim the deduction on your own taxes.
She told me that Komen opposed the bill. When I asked her why, she explained that Komen felt that treatment for uninsured breast cancer patients should be funded through private donations, like the pink ribbon race.
She told me that Komen opposed the bill. When I asked her why, she explained that Komen felt that treatment for uninsured patients should be funded through private donations.
The sociopathic Republican position on health. Except when it is mixed with abortion..then uninsured breast cancer patients will not get treatment through private donations. The Komen Death Panel.
It seems that in her glib, oh-so-cute way, Megan is adopting the framing device of the antiabortion movement – that ANY donation or support of Planned Parenthood at all is inherently political.
And that Planned Parenthood is controversial because they are controversial because they are controversial. So that anyone can disengage with them with just a wave and a smirk … because who wants all that controversy?
pseudonymous in nc
I don’t think it’s even about “religious money”. They hired Handel to play footsie with the new teabag brigade in Congress. Before that, they hired a Dem lobbyist to water down healthcare reform, per the quote from that DKos diary. I don’t even think it’s about skimming.
This is about something much more fundamental: power and self-preservation. SGK has become the quarter-billion dollar gatekeeper to breast cancer advocacy. Its president can get the CEO of a Fortune 500 company or the commissioner of a major league sport to break from his lunch and pick up the phone. That’s why I think it’s a weird mirror of the standard big-gubmint argument.
Now, you can argue that Planned Parenthood has become an equally powerful gatekeeper to women’s and sexual healthcare services. But only up to a point: PP exists to provide services, not to raise and disburse funds, and PP also operates under constant threat of violence and shutdown.
I don’t think it’s a stretch that millions today are thinking this, exactly. This is a Guinness-record-class organizational cratering.
So richly deserved.
Women’s health is women’s health. A woman is not a separable collection of body parts. You don’t separate breasts from a vagina and decide it’s OK to deal with one part and not with another.
I heard on the radio today people who are conservative, who previously participated in Komen sponsored runs, say NO to ever contributing to this organization again.
@Steve: Fuck off scold.
@ABL 2.0: Hey, thanks so much for staying on this story, by the way. There can NEVER be too many posts on it. As Doug said earlier, this should bring that damn foundation down, period.
@pseudonymous in nc:
I say religious money because they are actually advocating hard right religious doctrine, and finding corporate and individual money to do that, even if the entity doing the donating does not know that. Hence religious, money.
You know, I always had a feeling that all that “pink ribbon” stuff was just a bunch of bull shit.
Maybe McArglbargle was just using the vernacular. But I am always suspicious when phrasing like this is used. Its a dog whistle of sorts.
McMegan, Planed Parenthood isn’t a business. If it was, it wouldn’t need donations from the public to keep serving women in need of all the kinds of care it gives. You’re just bought into the meme that abortion is run for fun and profit, which is a very nasty right wing smear.
I wonder how long the members of the Komen Board of Directors will last?
By any measure this has to be a catastrophe for the Komen Foundation and they failed in their responsibility. The damage to their brand will be huge.
What is really ironic is that the reason Komen will shrivel is the same reason they put the screws to PP – because PP was controversial. Now Komen has made themselves controversial, and they will pay a very steep price for it.
What Komen found objectionable about PP is now applicable to them. If everyone else applies Komen’s logic to Komen, Komen loses. It’s always bad when you lose under your own logic.
Just saw something at HuffPuff that the doctors on the board are resigning even now.
Yeah, Komen’s spin just isn’t going to cut it, especially since it’s directing the spotlight onto their own practices as a charity. It may also have the effect of defanging the VRW Conspiracy against PP, since they’re looking like the innocent victim here.
I know this is a stupid question, but what in God’s name was the point of McMegan’s latest brainfart? Her colleague does some actual journalism, and she says, “No, that isn’t the reason Komen did what it did.” She then says some stupid shit and offers no explanation that’s at all more plausible than Goldberg’s. She says support for abortion has been pretty stable for the last 15 years, and then concludes “In that environment, you can see why an organization that does not itself have a mission to support abortion access would want to pull back from funding Planned Parenthood, even for related services.” I mean, what kind of idiot thinks SKG made this decision based on some “subtle shift in opinion” on abortion?
Nothing means anything and people can do what they want mannnn.
There were a zillion South Park Conservatives (posing as not anti-choice “independents”) spouting this cowardly bullshit all over the internet (especially Facebook) today.
What the fuck is wrong with making an expressive commitment to abortion rights? Abortions are a necessary and valid medical procedure; when their availability is restricted we suffer as a society. So why the fuck shouldn’t I push back-extra hard against the forces trying to stamp them out?
I am so goddamn tired of people acting like abortions are inherently bad. They’re not. A fetus, especially early-term, is not a person. Abortions may often arise out of difficult personal situations, but they are not themselves evil. Let’s stop being “reasonable” by conceding that they are.
This, to infinity. It is a choice some women make, for their own reasons, which are no one else’s goddamn business.
ABL, I’m so happy to see you are back. I never got why you weren’t, but I’m threadrupt here.
Back on topic: First they came for ACORN, and immediately started in on PP.
PP serves everyone who come in. The services I got from PP not only let me know I was healthy, but provided the services to keep me and my GF healthy.
There are no ‘free clinics’ in my area like the old days, it’s Planned Parenthood or get your insurance card out.
p.s. AFAIK, Planned Parenthood doesn’t do abortions, but they will refer you to a doctor that does.
WOW! this story changes my mind in a big way. Before I saw SGK as an organization that could pick up the phone & know that the CEO or elected dickbag at the other end HAD to take their call. A charity that could exert pressure to speed research. Many things that hundreds of smaller orgs could only dream of doing. Sure I was unhappy that they sued or threaten any group that dared to use “for the cure” but I wanted to believe the potential for good outweighed their disckishness.
I was wrong, these dicks deserve to die.
My only problem is that focusing solely on PP offering abortion services allows the right wing to pretend that PP could somehow stop offering them with no effect on their patients’ health. As we both know, that’s complete bullshit — a full range of women’s health services must include abortion, or doctors end up dealing with other problems that their patients develop down the road from, say, trying to self-abort.
Planned Parenthood can’t just stop offering abortion services and still call themselves a comprehensive healthcare provider. Don’t play the right wing’s game and pretend that those services are somehow separable from the entire menu of services that PP offers.
Paul in KY
@dogwood: Who gives a fuck? Start your own blog, if you want to control who posts what.
Paul in KY
@Breezeblock: Penn State is a very large university. I’m sure there are some departments that don’t partake in child abuse.