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I added this to the other post, but thought I should let you all know what is going on in a new thread. Thanks for the kind words.

My mother just called, and she doesn’t know any specifics other than he had a mild heart attack. I tried to get her to tell me if they tested for Troponin and the extent of the damage, but none of that made any sense to her. She is staying until they put him in a room, and I am assuming they have him on blood thinners and maybe a mild sedative. I just don’t know. All my medical training was as an EMT and then combat lifesaver training and most of it starts and stops with lidocaine and 2 Pam Chloride. I’m just going to assume that this is the best possible news, but in my book “mild heart attack” is like “slight case of herpes” or “minimal stroke” or “treatable cancer.” None of it is good. Tomorrow they are going to do a cardiac catheterization to examine what is going on and may do a stent. I’ll keep you updated, but I am going to start drinking.

*** Update ***

Just got off the phone with dad, and he sounds ok, but he sounds scared. I hate this shit. I want to be ten riding my bike again.

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  3. 3.

    General Stuck

    A heart attack is never ‘good news’, but mild versus massive probly is for life saving. He will have the chance now to fix whatever blockages in whatever way the docs decide.

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    WaterGirl

    Cole, I am glad you are just a few doors down from your mom. I imagine that will bring her a lot of comfort tonight. Will she stay at her house or will she hang with you for company?

  7. 7.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    A mild heart attack is like minor surgery: it happens to someone else. But at least now you know that if there’s ever a next time, you just go.

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Spammed from the previous thread: Cole, think of it more a mild sprain; some things aren’t all or nothing.

    I still say go up there, at least, to check it. Mummy will appreciate it. You can catch up on the drinking when you get back. Also too, is there a decent cab company in your town? If you do drink and then need to go….

  12. 12.

    Colleen

    Just read about your Dad and also one of your Komen posts. Looks like maybe you got your fighting spirit back up and I’m assuming you got that fighting spirit from your Dad so he’s a fighter. Best of luck to all of you.

  14. 14.

    Birthmarker

    My MIL had what docs called a mild heart attack several years ago, got a stent and did fine. Thoughts and prayers with you all.

  15. 15.

    mistermix

    Thanks for the update and here’s hoping he’s out of the hospital and giving you shit about your heathen ways ASAP.

  18. 18.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I appreciate the urge to start drinking, but take it easy — I suspect you’re not going to sleep well tonight anyhow, and if you decide you simply must go to the hospital we don’t want you impaired.

    Sorry to sound like a priggish; you don’t need advice from me about everything in moderation. Just know that we are ALL there for you and want your dad around to give you shit for a long time to come.

    BTW, I had a mild heart attack 20 years ago (angioplasty) and an almost heart attack 8 years later (quadruple bypass) and I’m here to tell the story. I’m your dad’s age more or less, which these days is young. So I believe, and hope, that he has a lot of years left to him.

  21. 21.

    Garbo

    Please take it easy on the drinking. There will be questions and decisions to help with in the next 24 hours and you will be happy to have all of your prodigious brain on hand.

  22. 22.

    Uncle Omar

    All the best to you and your father. When I had my heart attack it, too, was minor as described by others. My first meal in the cardiac ICU was, and I shit you not, a cheeseburger and fries. This kind of stuff runs in families since heart attacks killed both my father and brother. So, my advice to you is to take care of yourself. If a loafer such as I can survive 21 years after the heart attack, then so can your father.

  23. 23.

    amk

    Repost from previous thread.

    but I am going to start drinking.

    WTF ? Pull yourself together man. This is the time your parents really need you most. Move your fucking ass to the hospital and hold hands with your mom.

  24. 24.

    msskwesq

    I am so sorry to hear this, John. My father died of a heart attack at age 50 when I was 13 years old. That was a very long time ago. My oldest brother, now that same age as he, has the same type of heart trouble as our father. The good news is because of medical advances, he is doing well! Your Dad will be back on his feet soon!

  25. 25.

    trollhattan

    Okay, many thanks for the update. He’s in the right place and getting what sounds like the right care–here’s hoping it’s fully treatable and in a meaningful way, correctable.

    Sláinte!

  26. 26.

    Emdee

    What SiubhanDuinne said: the correct response to uncertainty is not incapacitation. This one time, go for the ice cream and cookies instead (or cheese fries, or mac and cheese, or whatever counts as comfort food). You’ll stay capable and can make it up with salads later.

  27. 27.

    WaterGirl

    We love you, Cole, and your whole family. How weird is that?

    Especially your mom, your cute sister who runs a marathon, your brother who filled us in after your shoulder surgery, and of course your dad, we forgive him even though he gets after you sometimes. How could we not with the naked vacuuming and your mopping, the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.

  28. 28.

    pat

    Go to the hospital. Sit in his room until a doctor comes in, then ask about this troponin shit. If you have a modicum of medical knowledge, become your dad’s Patient Advocate. Talk to his doctors. Hold your mom’s hand.
    And a “mild heart attack” is probably not an extreme event. More like a warning shot across the bow.

    (I’m writing this having missed the entire thread down below, so maybe I am echoing lots of thoughts.)

  29. 29.

    Linda Featheringill

    “Mild heart attack”:

    I have noticed in the course of typing reports that if a person is having serious difficulties with the heart, the hospital actually can run a cardiac catheterization at night. Since they chose not to do the the cath immediately, that is probably good news.

    And if the ischemia is mild enough, or if the blockage is limited in scope, they can place a stent during the course of the catheterization and actually fix it then and there. This can be done laparoscopically [so the chest is not invaded]. And then maybe he wouldn’t have to undergo a bypass, which is a big operation.

    At any rate, it sounds like it might all work out pretty good, or at least not too bad.

    Warm thoughts and best wishes.

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    This is probably not the thread to start with a bunch of FYWP rants — but the FSM knows it is tempting.

  31. 31.

    gogol's wife

    @Linda Featheringill:

    I’ve had two friends have major heart surgery in the past six months (both in their 60s), and they’re both back in the classroom teaching now and doing really well. I am hoping for all the best for John’s father.

  33. 33.

    lamh35

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Agree about taking the drinking lightly,

    With you EMT experience you will be sitting at home thinking about all the things that can go wrong or right and if you do need to get to the hospital quick, having some drinks in you would not be a good thing.

    Thx for the update. Again, good vibes and best wishes for ur dad.

  34. 34.

    Laura Clawson

    Drinking sounds like the best response at this point. Hope everything goes as well as it can at this point.

    Your parents not calling you…makes me think back to when my grandmother was still alive. She and my mother would talk once a week, on Saturdays, and usually of course there was nothing much to talk abut. So one week Saturday comes around and my grandmother is all perky, and reports that she was in the hospital for a few days that week. Clearly it was one of the most interesting things that had happened to her in the longest time — she had a humorous story about how when she went to the emergency room, it was full of screaming kids because the sting rays were spawning, but she went right up to the desk and told them to take her first because she was bleeding internally. (It was an ulcer and she’d been vomiting blood.) But had she called my mother, her only child, during the time she was in the hospital? Noooo.

  35. 35.

    Wag

    The first post on your thread saying for dad had a heart attic had the best advise. go to the hospital. Not necessarily for your dad, but to support your mom. Parents in this situation tend to forget to take care of themselves after a loved one has a major issues like this. Your mom needs someone there who can be her pillar of strength. Go for your mom. I suspect your dad will be fine, and if anything does happen, he’s in the right place to deal with it.

  38. 38.

    TaMara (BHF)

    Thanks for the update. At times like this it’s hard to believe we’re all just virtual friends. I’ll keep sending you and your family good energy. And I expect frequent updates tomorrow.

    Soon your dad will be chasing the dogs around the living room yelling at them for dancing on the furniture.

  40. 40.

    RedKitten

    I agree with Pat. Your mom is probably confused and overwhelmed right now. Go help her. Talk to the doctors for her and make them speak plain English. Hold her hand.

    Best wishes to your dad for a speedy and uncomplicated recovery. If he’s 1/10th as stubborn as his son, he’s got plenty of gumption to keep on going.

  43. 43.

    HRA

    John, I wish the best for your Dad in his recovery.
    It’s been a long time since I went through the same illness with my Dad which would make anything I know about a heart attack outdated. Though I do believe the feelings you are now having are as true now as they were back then. Relax as best as you are able to and make sure you make the patient smile or even laugh when you see him.

  44. 44.

    John Cole

    My mother is coming home in an hour or so. There is no reason for me to be there. And I am not getting slobberknockered, I am drinking a couple glasses of wine so I am not the second Cole on a gurney in one night. I put on the brave face and calmly and sternly told my brothers and sisters what was going on and how they should react, now I think I am entitled to have my own private breakdown thank you very fucking much.

  45. 45.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Sorry here that John and hope your father recovers.

    But,.. we all have to keep in mind our parents won’t be with us forever.

  46. 46.

    gbear

    John, installing a stent is something that the hospital can do while your dad is still awake. I was aware of what was going on the whole time but the drugs were so good I didn’t care. As the nurse said beforehand, ‘We will give you something to make you feel indifferent’. Truer words were never spoken.
    (re-post from previous med thread)

  48. 48.

    John O

    Best to you and your family, John.

    (And there IS such a thing as a “mild” heart attack, and they’re better than the alternative.)

  51. 51.

    WyldPirate

    Best wishes again, John.

    Just as a note, elevated trponin levels may not show up for a day or so.

    Also wanted to pass along –again–my “grumpy old man” heart attack story to demonstrate why one shouldn’t ignore chest pain.

    Definitely not true and I’m speaking from experience.

    Had a 30 second or so twinge of moderatel uncomfortably chest pain one night. Next night I had another. I ignored both.

    Third night, I walked two miles to a football game with no problems. I and was sitting in the stands on a cool nigh, breeze blowing and jacket on and broke out in a sweat. Then got really nauseous, then sick. Zero chest pain. I KNEW my family history and KNEW I was a prime candidate for an MI. I KNEW the symptoms I was having were atypical of someone having an MI, yet I debated with myself for30 min on whether to walk back home or walk over to the line of paramedics and their ambulances typically present at a college game w/50K+ in attendance.

    I chose the paramedics even though I had not started my CoBRA coverage even though I had just been laid off two weeks before. I was just getting hooked up to the EKG when a cardiac surgeon at the game popped open the door and stepped in. He took one look at the EkG and said “your having an MI right now and pointed out the squared off “tombstone” S-T wave.

    A few days later, he passed by my room in the hospital during his rounds and stepped into my room as he recognized fom the hallway. He said I made the right choice I stopping at the ambulance as I quite likely would have not made it back home walking the two miles alone.

    The chest discomfort the night I had the MI was minimal compared to the two previous nights. It’s not something to ignore, particularly if you have family history and know you are maxing out other risk factors.

  52. 52.

    Chris from Arlington, VA

    It’s up to you, John, but the dogs will be OK, they’re dogs, they can deal with a night in an empty house.

    In my experience with my grandmother who had to be taken to the hospital for a feared heart condition, the one who’s sick tells you to stay home because they don’t want you to worry and don’t want to feel that they’re imposing on you. Go see your dad, I think it would make him happy.

    Actually, hopefully he’s been put in a room by now and maybe he can get some sleep, so it’ll make your MOM happy.

    That’s just been my experience with my family members, your own might react differently.

    Best wishes, do what you need to take care of your family.

  54. 54.

    gogol's wife

    @trollhattan:

    Yes, I want that “Oh, my God” as my ringtone. If only I had a ringtone.

    My feeling is that John’s father’s wishes about where John should be should be respected (bad phrasing there but you know what I mean).

  56. 56.

    RedKitten

    @John Cole: Fair enough, man. Just making sure that Mama Cole wasn’t by her lonesome.

    It’s not just you we love, it’s your family too, you know.

  57. 57.

    JKC

    Best wishes for your Dad, John, and to you as well. If they didn’t whisk him off to the cath lab right away, it probably was mild and his troponin was either negative or inconclusive.

  58. 58.

    WyldPirate

    @gbear:

    True dat, gbear. I laid there and watched on the monitor as the cardiologist snaked the stent into place. It was trippy as hell watching as the stent displaced the thrombus and my heart muscle reperfused.

    Out of curiosity where you freezing during the procedure and afterwards?

  59. 59.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @RedKitten: Me, I am in Rosie’s corner. And the old man’s. And Mama Cole’s. Okay, fine, you were right, but Tunch still frightens me.

  61. 61.

    galileo126

    Drink if you will, John. But it won’t change anything.

    I did same, after my Ma’s “mild” heart attack.

    We’re behind ya, man. All of us ‘Juicers”.

    Sucks, huh?

    Not sure what to say, but I get it dude.

    -gali

  62. 62.

    5x5

    Please take care. I wish you and your parents the best.

    My mom told my sister (while they were watching Dr Oz) that her new doctor (whom she met just that once) told her (two months before) that she needed a hysterectomy. She’s been scared for two months. (My sister and I scrambled to get her more information; she’s getting a second opinion.)

    Parents are worse than kids.

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @John Cole:

    Okay, I hear you. Fair enough, and I truly didn’t mean to preach. I’m lifting a glass of Pinot noir to you and both your parents right this minute.

  64. 64.

    Violet

    John, sorry to hear it was a heart attack, but he’s in the right place being taken care of by the right people. Your parents did the right thing by going to the ER, even if they took forever. Don’t drink too much in case they change their mind about wanting you to to the hospital or something else. You want to be as sharp as you can be if you’re needed. Sending good thoughts to all the Coles.

  65. 65.

    AnotherBruce

    Drinking is not a bad plan, the pain of the hangover is not going to make things worse. I’ve been there my friend, all too often fairly recently.

  66. 66.

    Bobby Thomson

    My dad apparently had more than one undiagnosed heart attack before the one that sent him into the hospital for a quadruple bypass. You just never know how these things will play out. I suspect your dad’s mind is still pretty sharp, and my admittedly uninformed view is that that can make a big difference with these things.

    Stay strong, be good to yourself, and when you’re ready, help keep your mom distracted.

  67. 67.

    dead existentialist

    @John Cole: What I find amusing about all the well-wishers (especially the female variety) is how they assume your mother is some feeeble-minded old git who can’t handle the situation. Having a strong mother myself, I let her have the lead when my dad had his terminal heart failure a year ago and relied on her to handle things.

    But then, my mom’s a beast.

  68. 68.

    Gus

    A mild heart attack isn’t necessarily a contradiction in terms. I do know people who have lived active lives after one.

  71. 71.

    scav

    Everybody knows their own family best and takes care of them. Here’s to continued hoping and a damn fine bottle of wine.

  73. 73.

    garbo

    @John Cole: Ha! Consider us shut up. Thanks for the update. We’re just feeling worried and helpless. Not that you would know anything about that right now. ;)

  81. 81.

    JPL

    I’m watching the last episode of Chuck again and I can’t tell you how much I love the Jeffster scene.

  83. 83.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @dead existentialist: My mom is one of the single most strong-willed and competent people I have ever met, but I also know that there are situations that she cannot handle. Everyone has them.

  84. 84.

    Violet

    @John Cole:
    Fair enough, John. Sounds like you’re doing all the right things. Hang in there. Be kind to yourself and take care of yourself. Your mom and dad may need you a bit more in the coming days.

  85. 85.

    RedKitten

    @dead existentialist:

    @John Cole: What I find amusing about all the well-wishers (especially the female variety) is how they assume your mother is some feeeble-minded old git who can’t handle the situation.

    Don’t be a douchenozzle. He said flat-out in his original post that none of the medi-speak was making any sense to her. We thought he could help. And even the strongest individual can use support in a crisis.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    @trollhattan: Now you guys have me laughing again about the Oh my god!

    Cole knows how to *take care of himself, and he’s doing it.

    *Footnote for notable exceptions: trying to fix his own shoulder

    Edit:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Nicely done.

    Edit 2: Can I just say that i miss asiangrrlMN?

  88. 88.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WyldPirate:

    I can tell you I was freezing — like in a meat locker cold — 20 years ago when I had my angioplasty. And it is very trippy indeed to watch the procedure on the TeeVee up on the wall. But at the same time I was chilling in that icy room, I was getting IV diazepam which felt really hot (temperature) circulating throughout me. Weird, strange, wouldn’t care to do it again necessarily but it did have a kind of stoned 60s vibe to it.

  89. 89.

    Comrade Mary

    Oh man, John. My thoughts are with you and your family. Give you Mom one hell of a hug when she gets home, OK?

  91. 91.

    becca

    He walked into the hospital and that’s the best news of all. Seriously.

    When my husband had a “mild” attack several years ago there was an ice storm and I had to drive to the hospital. I was surprised my driving didn’t finish him off.

    He had some stents inserted as he watched and chatted with our new- found best friend, The Cardiologist. Good as new in a few days and not a twinge since.

    I’m no gambler, but I’ll bet your dad will be fine.

  92. 92.

    CaseyL

    Thanks for the update!

    Wine sounds like a fine idea: the mellow, not the hammer.

    If your Mom feels OK about coming home, your Dad is in good hands. Maybe you should go over to their house and cook up a big meal with your Mom – are your siblings in the area? this would be a good weekend to get together, cook grandly and eat well, and discuss the likely lifestyle changes in your Dad’s future. (At the very least, some serious downtime while he recovers; no following the dogs around with the vacuum cleaner!).

    Watching the Super Bowl might be a perfect family activity: something no one cares deeply about, but an excellent opportunity to let off some steam by yelling at the TV.

    Keeping you and yours in my thoughts…

  94. 94.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    My father had a stent put in his heart,after he had some blockage. I hope the best for you and your family JC!

  95. 95.

    SiubhanDuinne

    And just to put the icing on the cupcake, I’m now getting ads for Sarah Palin 2012 gear.

    John, did your father set this up?

  96. 96.

    Vanfur

    Dear Mr. Cole, I think I last left comments in the early 2000’s arguing with you about this or that (Ms. Sheehan or such).

    My thoughts and prayers are with you.

  97. 97.

    Joey Maloney

    Best wishes, John. May I just add, my father had one of those mild heart attacks, too. That was twenty years ago and today his heart shows no signs of residual damage. He gets on the NordicTrack three times a week for the length of an entire Poison CD, flies a plane, travels the world, and his cardiac health is probably better than mine.

    Good luck.

  98. 98.

    WyldPirate

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Carbon copy of my experience just about.

    Those toasty blankets they busted out of their blankie warmers in the cath lab felt better than the best toe-curling orgasm. :-)

  103. 103.

    dead existentialist

    @RedKitten: Mother Cole might not understand the medi-speak anymore than she understands the internetz, but she got Cole to fix the Reply button. Just sayin’. Also too, I give John credit for trusting his instincts.

  104. 104.

    Violet

    @dead existentialist:

    What I find amusing about all the well-wishers (especially the female variety) is how they assume your mother is some feeeble-minded old git who can’t handle the situation.

    Don’t be a dick. No one suggested anything of the sort.

  106. 106.

    AnotherBruce

    @rikyrah: He will stop drinking. When he is ready. He’s already said that he’s not going to overdo it. But sometimes it helps one to get a decent amount of sleep. The dude’s in no small amount of agony. Let him deal with it as he sees best. And yes, I know you mean well.

  108. 108.

    gene108

    Best wishes to your dad for a speedy recovery.

    Just remember the most important thing is your dad is still alive and receiving care.

  110. 110.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WyldPirate:

    Carbon copy of my experience just about.

    Quite the exclusive little group we’re in, yes?

    Are you in the gaggle-to-zatch zipper club? I had a CABGx4 in early 2001, not a scrap of problems since then, knock any forest products that happen to be handy.

  111. 111.

    Strawmanmunny

    I don’t post very often but wanted to send my thoughts to your dad. I really enjoy reading your blog and, however quaint, feel as though you are one of my friends.

    I hope your dad comes through this fine and is back at home soon. I know how special dads are(and mothers too) and wish you and your family all the best.

  112. 112.

    gbear

    @CaseyL: Nope, no yelling for John’s dad if he receives a stent. The incision point in the groin is very fragile after the surgery. He’ll be taking it very easy for a couple weeks.

  114. 114.

    Tehanu

    @General Stuck:

    A heart attack is never ‘good news’, but mild versus massive probly is for life saving. He will have the chance now to fix whatever blockages in whatever way the docs decide.

    What the General said. My dad had a “mild” heart attack at 67 and had an emergency double bypass, and it was actually one of the best things that ever happened — totally turned his life around; he went from dragging about to complete recovery with lots of energy, and that lasted almost 20 years. So I hope your dad’s experience will be at least as good. Hang in there.

  115. 115.

    sfinny

    Thankful that things seem under control and that your Dad is well enough that your Mom is coming home. Said a prayer for you all. Not sure about the effectiveness given my unbeliever status, but it can’t hurt.

  116. 116.

    Lyrebird

    Sending good thoughts to you and your dad.

    Edit: Also praying for “John Cole’s Dad” in there w/my prayers for Gabby Giffords. No claims of effectiveness here, nor any assumption that anyone else need to believe. Just my way of expressing…

  119. 119.

    ruemara

    All my best to you and your family. If your dad is anything is like you, he’ll be walking back home as soon as possible. Plenty of good vibes headed your way.

  120. 120.

    Svensker

    More hugs, best wishes and prayers. Snuggle with the goggies and the Tunchmeister, that always helps whatever life throws at you.

  122. 122.

    SiubhanDuinne

    My own experience: the heart is Just. So. Fucking. Happy to be getting oxygen again, that even if you’re constipated for a week and your incisions hurt like Billy-oh and you’re having anesthesia flashbacks, it doesn’t really matter because your heart can breathe again.

    John, is your dad a smoker? If so, I promise you the best thing he can do is take advantage of this episode to become a former smoker. This isn’t a morality or judgement thing, it’s a health thing.

  127. 127.

    Genine

    I’m keeping your dad in my thoughts, John. Sending positive energy his way and to your whole family. I know it can be freaky, but a mild heart-attack is better than a major one. There’s more than a good possibility he’ll pull through.

  128. 128.

    Upper West

    Hang in there, John. FWIW, my Dad had a mild heart attack at 57, had a bypass (and that was in the early days of that surgery in 1973), and lived another 34 years.

  131. 131.

    TrishB

    John, my best wishes to your dad and all of your family. My dad had a similar situation a few years back and is doing just fine. Yeah, the helicopter ride from Middletown to Cinci might have been overly dramatic, but a stent or two later, and he was as good as new.

  134. 134.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    All best wishes, John. It’s wonderful that you’re so close to your parents – in more than one way – and that they can call you to give them the help they want. Thanks for keeping us updated. Not that anyone needs my story right now, but my younger sister had her heart attack in front of me while visiting one weekend – and it was unbelievably difficult to talk her into going to the hospital. That was ten years ago (she was 55) and she’s been fine since – running three miles a day until recently, when she allowed as how maybe it would be best if she walked vigorously.

  138. 138.

    Elie

    Best to you John… Hang in there — be optimistic and positive — give him that eneergy.. Don’t be a mope

  139. 139.

    Tod Kelly

    John, I’m unbelievably sorry to hear about your dad. My prayers and best wishes to you and your family, and especially your mom.

    I know that sick feeling in the pit of your chest and stomach when your parents are hurting and there’s nothing you can do. It’s an especially awful feeling.

    I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a post coming soon that he’s home and healthy.

  140. 140.

    Scamp Dog

    I’ll second the words about mild heart attacks. My Dad had one in 1996 and made it until 2011. It wasn’t his heart that got him, but complications from a fall due to Parkinson’s disease making him frail and unsteady. So best of luck for your Dad, and it doesn’t have to be extraordinary good luck for things to go well (I hope).

  141. 141.

    THE

    Stents are good John.
    Lots of people are getting metal bits added now.
    I salute our cyborg overlords.

  142. 142.

    becca

    When my husband suffered his heart “event” I called no one until he was settled into a room. then I called our daughter, who was spending the night with friends, and his business partner to let him know why Husband wouldn’t be at work in the morning.

    If I called my mom she would call my sister who would tell my crazy-ass brother-in-law who would grab his bible jump in his truck regardless of the hour and in any weather for a chance to get you at your most vulnerable and force you to join hands and pray to Jesus when you know in your heart of hearts that what the BIL really is secretly kinda sorta hoping for things to go badly because funerals give him a larger audience.

    I’m sure your mother has other reasons for being unforthcoming.

  146. 146.

    Villago Delenda Est

    I love this crowd. Half of them say “don’t drink”, the other half are lobbyists for Segram’s.

    Glad your dad only had a mild attack…much better news than a massive, not as good as acid reflux. But the important thing is, he’s still kicking.

    Fingers remained crossed.

  153. 153.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dead existentialist:

    Don’t be ridiculous. If it were reversed — if his mother had been the one who had gone to the ER — we’d be advising John to go to the hospital to be there for his dad. This has nothing to do with gender, or assuming that his mother is a feeble-minded old git. It has to do with stress and shock and uncertainty and fear and love, and if possible it is a good thing to have a champion there for you.

  155. 155.

    MacKenna

    Sorry to hear about your father, and I hope he’s feeling better and out of the hospital ASAP.

  156. 156.

    mcmullje

    John, I am sending good thoughts to you and your family. I have dealt with a number of people close to me who have had heart issues and the good news is: they really know more about the heart than any other organ in the body, so that is a huge plus. Hang in there.

  158. 158.

    Ms.B

    Semi-lurker here with fingers crossed, saying FSM prayers for your dad with some left over for your family. Your mom feeling comfortable enough to come home is a great sign–and, yeah, moms are tough and smart.

    Tomorrow is soon enough for you to be there to take on that patient advocate role. Tonight, the lower-your-blood-pressure wine and cuddles with the furry ones.

  159. 159.

    Soonergrunt

    You have my best thoughts and wishes right now. Let us know if there’s anything we can do.

  160. 160.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Most people when confronted with a spouse in the hospital, no matter what their avocation or degree of usual mental togetherness may be, are emotional wrecks and need all the support they can get. Adult children often are a tad more removed emotionally and that’s decisive in being able to think in a more clear fashion than the individual right next to a life partner.

    I’ve observed this with both parents, so it seems to hold, well, at least in my case. My dad was the strong one, but my mom has always been the even tempered one. Both needed support when the other was rushed to the hospital for something or the other.

    Support your mom, support your dad.

  161. 161.

    Jager

    My Dad had his first heart attack in ’59…they didn’t know shit about treatment in those days. My Mom told me the Dr. told my Dad to quit smoking (he did) while smoking a cigarette in the hospital room. Next piece of advice, don’t do anything for a year, so the old man laid around for 6 months and gained about 30 pounds. Finally, on his own,out of shear boredom the old man hiked his ass back to the car store and went back to work. He never shed the weight and had constant angina for the next 20 years, he died at 57. John, if the treatment available today would have been on the radar when Dad had his heart attack he’d be around today. He’d be 92.

  162. 162.

    WyldPirate

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Yep. Had a triple bypass a month after the angioplasty. I stayed in the hospital for ten days after the angiangioo as they hoped the could squeeze me in for a CABG but they were slammed with scheduled business and no suites. Stay was also extended by a pseudoaneurysm where the went into my leg to do the angio that was made worse by me motoring around in the hallways.

    It was scary as hell waiting for a month knowing I had a 90% blockage in my left cornary artery and a 50% in my circumflex. Had my surgery 26 months ago today. I’m doing fine now and I’m in better shape than I’ve been in for about 20 years.

    It sucked at the time, but it was one of the best things to ever happen to me in a lot of ways.

  163. 163.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I hate this shit. I want to be ten riding my bike again.

    I think you’ve just captured what being a grown-up is all about.

  164. 164.

    WaterGirl

    @PurpleGirl: That was my favorite part, too!

    Say, am I crazy, or did you never write me back to answer my questions lo those several saturdays ago?

  165. 165.

    coldie

    so sorry to hear that john. All my best thoughts are with you. My dad has had similar problems, but won’t change his bad habits. Hug your dogs!

  167. 167.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WyldPirate: Yup. I look back on my episodes and procedures as huge blessings, although FSM knows I would have preferred to learn the lessons more gently. But here we both are.

  168. 168.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I hate this shit. I want to be ten riding my bike again.

    You didn’t tell him that, right?

  169. 169.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Just got off the phone with dad, and he sounds ok, but he sounds scared.

    I’m sure that will change when he finds out you’ve been liveblogging him.

  172. 172.

    Rob R

    Coming out of lurking mode to wish you and your family the best luck there is.

    If it’s any consolation, you and I are about the same age, and my dad did emergency four-ple bypass a week before Christmas two years ago. He came out of the hospital in time for my visit, still hugging the Hold-Your-Chest-Together pillow, and told me: “This sucks… but we’re in Florida. So if I can’t kick your ass right now, local statute says I can still taze it.”

    This past Christmas? He’s back to kicking my ass health. Here’s hoping you have the same luck I did… because it does exist.

    All the best, John.

  176. 176.

    eemom

    Called my own mother after your last post and talked for 87 minutes, the last 30 or so of which were spent in an apoplectic frenzy trying to convince her that no, Obama and Ron Paul and all politicians are not ALL the SAME.

    You are a very excellent man, John Cole. Best wishes to the good Mom and Dad who produced you, and I do firmly hope and believe that your Dad will be just fine.

    Oh, and drink up. I am. [clink]

  177. 177.

    dance around in your bones

    My dad had a stroke while playing tennis (age 80) and is now in a nursing home…I call him and talk and sing songs to him but I don’t think he knows who I am anymore.

    Just sayin’, take the time you need with your parental units, it goes faster than you might think.

    Shit, getting old is….suckytoodinal.

    Best wishes for your dad. Stay by his side if you can – you just never fucking know. I have reason to know this.

  178. 178.

    Xinark

    Delurking just to say: good luck, and may the morning bring a a better day for you and your parents. Until then, take what comforts you can, and know that you and yours are in the thoughts of many tonight.

  182. 182.

    Canuckistani Tom

    Late to this, so John, let me say good thoughts and prayers to your Dad, to you, and to your family

  183. 183.

    Dennis G.

    For whatever it is worth, my Dad had a pretty severe heart attack back in the late 1990s. The news was grim and I went home prepared for the worst. It didn’t happen. He recovered and his weak heart has been something he has lived with ever since. In part I think this is because he is a good patient. He changed some bad habits, ate better, listened to his doctors, etc. And in part it was his passions–the projects he wanted to work on and the books he wanted to read.

    I know what your night tonight is like and hope that your Father will get through this and enjoy many more years. My best to you and yours John. Take care.

  184. 184.

    TaMara (BHF)

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Shit, when my either my mom or dad were in the hospital, I was afraid to even tell their siblings, for fear of getting chewed out. I can’t even think what they’d do if I live blogged their ailments. Scratched from the will for sure.

  186. 186.

    TaMara (BHF)

    but he sounds scared. I hate this shit. I want to be ten riding my bike again.

    Right there with you. This summer my dad had double knee surgery, which was traumatic enough for me, but then in the same month he lost his youngest brother and a week later my mom lost her oldest brother. I’m the oldest and really felt like much of the responsibilities fell on my shoulders during that time. Gladly, that’s for sure. But sitting with my parents and feeling helpless on so many levels just sucked in ways I could have never imagined.

  187. 187.

    cay

    Of course I want your dad to be fine, but I’m facing the 30th deathversary of my dad’s (he died when I was 12). Enjoy your dad as an adult for me.

  188. 188.

    piratedan

    @Omnes Omnibus: TY for the follow up, took a day off yesterday (much needed) and went into Portland and hit up Music Millennium, bought some music. Playing it loud while sorting through the possessions and photographs. It’s like disassembling a life times two I suppose. Sometimes I’ll uncover a family artifact and it’ll be a trip down memory lane (sometimes pleasant, sometimes not) and other times you just sigh and put it in a pile. Almost done with the bulk of the sorting, now its a matter of boxing and shipping.

    so maybe another week or two in the beautiful gorge and then I can head home for good.

  189. 189.

    ramalamadingdong

    So a new phase of your life begins. No one acts they way you think they would, or should, when serious illness strikes. Some will disappoint you, but you will meet a lot of angels here on earth to help you and your family. Only advice I can give is pace yourself. Sitting in hospitals for a long time is draining — for you, your mom, your family and your Dad. You are in our prayers.

  191. 191.

    SIA

    Thinking of you all. As someone else said, this too shall pass. But it’s so agonizing when it happens. I do have a strong feeling Papa Cole will be alright.

  192. 192.

    Cain

    @piratedan:

    so maybe another week or two in the beautiful gorge and then I can head home for good.

    I’m sorry piratedan, what happened that you must leave the fair and damp city of Portland?

    Edit: never mind, I’m sorry for your loss. Where will you head after this?

  194. 194.

    Crashman

    John,

    My thoughts and prayers, for whatever they’re worth, are with you and your family. Glad to hear that at least for now, it seems like things might be okay.

  195. 195.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @piratedan: Me, I am not willing to accept my 90 y/o grandmother dying; nor is she for that matter – she quit smoking after 75 years of doing it, cold turkey too. Contemplating something bad happening to one of my parents – and I am 47 – is unthinkable for me.

  196. 196.

    auntieeminaz

    Empathy for your mother. Been there. Nine years ago with my husband. He was 53 at the time and had a stent implanted. He is fine now with medication and life style modifications. Three hours in the ER and I was exhausted. It’s very frightening but manageable. He wouldn’t let me call his daughter who was 21 at the time. Didn’t want her to worry. It’s complicated. I think your dad will be fine for many years to come. Keep the faith. I tip my glass to you and your family!

  198. 198.

    piratedan

    @Cain: it’ll be back to the desert southwest for me, the pale bastion of blue in Arizona, Tucson.

    been here in Parkdale (about 20 miles N of Mount Hood) off and on for the last 8 months caring for my mother and her husband, who both passed late last year. Life changing experience to say the least.

  199. 199.

    Bill H.

    Well, John, for whatever it’s worth, my best friend had a rather severe heart attack, quadruple bypass and, two years later, three stents put in. That was twelve years ago and he’s doing twenty mile day hikes now and is in better shape than I’m in. Yeah, I was scared shitless for him, but…

  201. 201.

    Scamp Dog

    Glad to hear he’s up to a phone conversation, and things are quiet enough that he has a moment to make it.

    I visited my Dad in the hospital after his heart attack, and he also looked frightened, but cheered right up when my brother brought in his then 18-month old daughter. Seeing his grandchild did wonders for Dad’s mood. I suppose smuggling Lily into the hospital might cause a ruckus, though, so you may have to count on your siblings for that kind of help. :)

  202. 202.

    Angela

    I’m glad your parents made it to the hospital, sorry to hear your dad had a small heart attack,and hopeful that he will recover. Please give your mom a hug from us, and don’t tell your dad we encouraged you to ditch his animals and get up to the hospital.

    I know from your rant that all that Jeebus shit pisses you off, and I want to let you know I will be thinking of you and your dad and your mom during my Quaker meeting tomorrow.

    I hope the wine is good, and aids your sleep tonight.

  203. 203.

    Ruckus

    John
    Just checking in and saw the posts about your dad. It’s pretty late out your way now so hopefully everyone is resting OK. Take care of yourself and your mom, the docs will take care of your dad. Hoping everything works out fine, like it’s supposed to.

  205. 205.

    calliope jane

    Really late, but I just wanted to add my good thoughts.

    Having a parent in the hospital just, well, sucks. All I can add is that, in my experience, holding my dog really helped. The poor thing was a little freaked out that I was freaking out, of course, but he didn’t seem to judge my moments of not wanting to be the strong one. They’re good that way.

  206. 206.

    Violet

    @Cain:

    You know what the culprit is, right?

    I spend way too much time on this blog. My tired and addled brain read tht as, “You know what a cudlip is, right?” Gah!

    @John Cole

    Just got off the phone with dad, and he sounds ok, but he sounds scared. I hate this shit. I want to be ten riding my bike again.

    I know it sucks. Maybe think of something you can do for your dad, like take a couple of pictures of Ginny and Guesley with a sign saying, “Get Well Soon!” or take a video of them and show it to him on your iPad or something. Actively doing something can help you feel better and it might make your dad feel better to see his doggies.

  207. 207.

    piratedan

    @Omnes Omnibus: well it varies naturally, now at 50 and both of mine are gone. It does have a tendency to cause you to mourn for the innocence of youth. Granted, I’ve had to be an adult an awful lot lately and doing that while still being the child in the eyes of the ones you’re taking care of. Strange dynamic indeed. Hope that you and yours still have many years OO. I would urge you to make sure that their wills/trusts etc are in order as its reduced the amount of decision making I’ve had to do by an order of magnitude.

  208. 208.

    handsmile

    Saddened to learn of your misfortune tonight, John Cole. All best wishes for your father’s robust recovery and for your family’s welfare.

    Appreciate your reaching out and updating us as to the condition both of your father and yourself. I hope this night will pass without too much restlessness or anxiety. You will do what seems best for you. And if need be, there are always people here who care a lot about you.

    Later today, how great it will be to see your Dad! I’m sure that your responses to this situation will continue to bring comfort and guidance to your mother and siblings. By all that I read from you, you’re a good son.

  211. 211.

    David Goodison

    No, none of that’s good, but it could have been much worse. It’s scary, for sure. Being in a place where you have to count your blessings means that you are not in such a good place. But that’s what you have to do. And the good news is that there are some great blessings to count. He is with you. My best to you and your father. I hope he has a speedy and complete recovery.

  215. 215.

    Tokyokie

    JC, Things will be OK, just make sure that he watches his diet and exercises and follows the cardiologist’s instructions so that there isn’t a second one.

  217. 217.

    suzanne

    @piratedan:

    it’ll be back to the desert southwest for me, the pale bastion of blue in Arizona, Tucson.

    As a Wildcat and a progressive, we will be happy to have you here in AZ. For many reasons, I am sure.

  219. 219.

    J.W. Hamner

    I assume at this point he got a 12 lead and blood tests, and if they didn’t rush him to the cath lab then he is in decent shape… yeah, a heart attack is never “good”, but perhaps this can serve as a wake up call and they can identify causes that were previously missed. If he needs a stent so be it… my dad was stented a couple of years ago and does triathlons… such a surgery is not the end of the world, though it may seem it.

    Good luck… I feel for you.

  220. 220.

    piratedan

    @suzanne: thanks Suzanne… maybe after I get back we can organize our own drinking liberally chapter. :-) Would like to meet up with folks and we can trade Jan Brewer jokes!

  224. 224.

    Irony Abounds

    @suzanne (and piratedan too):

    Bear Down and beat Stanford tomorrow!!!

    To John Cole: perhaps a mild heart attack is a bit of good luck. Better to have a mild heart attack that is treatable than to wait a few more years and have a big one hit that is lethal. In any event, I hope all goes well for your dad.

    Also.too: a mild heart attack can’t be any worse than the Lana Del Ray album. Christ Almighty, I listened to it to see what the fuss was about and it sucks more than a $1,000 whore.

  228. 228.

    suzanne

    @piratedan: They let fat old dudes on campus to be models for the figure drawing classes. You get a bonus if you have your junk pierced. At least that seemed to be how things worked when I was there.

  230. 230.

    Kelly

    Hanging out with my Mom for the last week – she is in palliative care. “I want to be ten riding my bike again”. Totally captures it. Good wishes for your Dad.

  233. 233.

    Amir Khalid

    Both my parents died of massive heart attacks. My dad at 55, while in transit at Changi airport in Singapore. No previous sign of heart trouble. My mother, at 70 in the Kuala Lumpur Hospital ER. She did have diabetes-related heart problems.

    I had my own heart attack at 44, on my way to work one morning. It was a mild one, but even after they put in the stents (I was conscious both times; no biggie) I was in bad shape. I showed up for work a few times looking unwell enough to frighten the security guard. I went through two years of almost-fortnightly sicknotes from the company doctor, of going in and out of the hospital, before I got my medical retirement. I hope John Cole’s dad has it easier than I did.

  234. 234.

    suzanne

    @piratedan: Well, should you need employment, the UA art school is apparently in dire need of people to take their clothes off and sit really, REALLY still for probably $9 an hour. And trust me, they’ll take anybody.

  235. 235.

    thalarctos

    Here’s wishing your Dad all the best, and a speedy recovery, John.

    And hoping that you and your mom get lots of loving support as well.

  236. 236.

    piratedan

    @suzanne: well that would be a bold step for me, not very proud of what i’ve done to my personal temple, but then again….9 an hour is better than nothing. I’ll consider it and check in with the spouse.

  237. 237.

    Linkmeister

    @piratedan: It was off-campus near the main gate on University, but the map seems to indicate the campus has moved west to subsume its site so it now is actually on the campus proper. (Or maybe not: this map puts it outside the gate by a block.)

    Man. When I was last in Tucson in 1992 the whole town had expanded west to Gates Pass. When I was in college there was nothing much west of N. Stone.

  238. 238.

    piratedan

    @Linkmeister: well if we do arrange something, I was thinking maybe someplace on the northwest side to accommodate any of our Phoenician friends. The thing is, I’m not even home yet. Sounds like we have some interest tho ;-)

  241. 241.

    Privatize the Profits! Socialize the Costs!

    Hope your dad is doing better, John.

    I lost my dad last November and still miss him a lot.

  244. 244.

    debbie

    I certainly send my best wishes for your dad, but I need to say this: I had one of those “minimal” strokes about 14 years ago, and I’m still kicking around just like always. After the initial shock at any sign of mortality, I came to see it was a signal that I was smart enough to act on and get past.

  249. 249.

    Schlemizel

    So glad to hear that – like I told you in the original thread, if he had the strength to be arguing like that it either was not a heart attack or not a very bad one.

    Hopefully he will recover quickly, take care of himself and become a pain in the ass to you for years to come.

  250. 250.

    Apostrophina

    De-lurking for this year (probably) to give good wishes to you and your family. You’re right: emotionally, “mild” doesn’t mean much when it’s someone you love.

  251. 251.

    Lojasmo

    Sure you know, John, but they must have run a troponin if they know it was a mild MI.

    I auld guess it was in the 0,02-0.06 range.

    There is indeed such thing as a “mild” attack if a small diagonal branch occluded.

    Hope he is well.

    /cath lab RN

  252. 252.

    Lojasmo

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Cath labs are always cold to prolong equipment life (and because the operators wear both lead suits and waterproof gowns)

    My patients sleep…always, and never remember a thing.

  253. 253.

    mothra

    My advice, fwiw, is to be there anytime you might be able to see the doctor making rounds, and to ask if you can go in when he sees the doctor. Ask your questions. The sick person and their partner are just too overwhelmed to remember to ask what they need to ask. And that way your information is first hand, not second hand.

  254. 254.

    John D

    John – I had a heart attack to ring in 2010 (as a 41 y/o). It was, like your dad’s, a “mild heart attack”. It was a blockage that cracked in an artery on the back side of the heart, so I had very minimally elevated cardiac enzyme levels, a stent installed, and a year of Plavix. That’s it (well, that and a lifetime of daily aspirin and Lipitor). So, it is entirely possible to come through something like this without further problems.

  255. 255.

    Tonybrown74

    Just saw the posts (and updates). Glad to hear that your father is okay. My thoughts are with you.

  256. 256.

    geg6

    John, I am very late to this news and you probably will never see this, but I am sending many positive vibes down south to your dad, mom, siblings, and to you. You’re such a mensch and you’ve been great to me and this is the least I can do to repay you.

    I feel what you’re going through. My dad had his first, mild, heart attack at 58. He changed up his diet and exercise afterward and lived another fifteen years. We lost him to a massive one in 1999, but he was whole and hearty right up to the last moment. Cherish him, hug your mom a lot (I guarantee she’s scared as hell), be kind to your siblings, and turn to your sweet piglets and Tunchie when you need reassurance. I, and all of us Juicers, love you and are pulling for your dad.

  258. 258.

    Alan

    While a heart attack is serious, a mild heart attack should be considered a good news wakeup call. Now your father knows there’s a problem and he can begin to address it. We all know that a good diet and mild exercise it the prescription. But my suggestion is to research and apply an anti-inflammatory diet–much like the diet Dr. Terry Wahls used to reverse her MS symptoms. I began to eat like her a couple years ago and effortlessly lost ~50 lbs.

    I’m glad I did too. Heart disease runs in my family. My father wasn’t as lucky as yours. He suffered a massive heart attack and was pretty much gone just after he hit the floor (he was 46). My mother also died from heart complications. I trust doctors to intervene to correct the plumbing, but I don’t trust them or dietitians or the U.S. Agriculture Department to prescribe a diet that will reverse the actual problem. Once they start pushing coupons for “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter” or heart healthy “Benecol” to apply to those healthy whole grains you’ll know all they want to do is squeeze as much money out of the patient managing the degenerative effects of their so called healthy diet.

    Obviously I have a very strong opinion about this. Nonetheless, I wish your father well and your mother too.

  261. 261.

    Damned at Random

    So sorry about your dad- and the family. Your father is in good hands and I know many people who bounced back from mild and even major heart attacks to live many happy and productive years. But your mom needs support now. Your dad is sedated and comfortable, but she is no doubt anxious and needs some hand holding and a sympathetic ear – also probably an interpreter for the medicalese. If your sister isn’t there, you should be. Some things are not to be handled over the phone

  263. 263.

    moonbat

    It’s good that they caught it at a stage that they can do something about it. Best wishes to you and your family. Hang in there.

  264. 264.

    elisathon

    Keeping your father & family in my thoughts, remember all your friends love you & ask for help when you need it.

  266. 266.

    pseudonymous in nc

    All the best to your dad, John. It’s scary when your parents become mortal.

    Cardiology’s come on so rapidly that there’s lots that can be done now and in the future that was barely imaginable a generation ago.

  268. 268.

    L.A. fan

    Thinking good thoughts for your whole family (human, canine and feline) and sending speedy good health wishes for your dad.

  272. 272.

    AnnaN

    Hope all is well with your father. Tips for which you can thank me later:

    1) Go to the hospital. Talk with the doctors. Your parents don’t want to worry you, but you need to be there as primary/backup for information and decision helper guy. They may be too overwhelmed to retain much. And there is a LOT to retain.

    2) Pen and small notebook, take copious notes, do not be afraid to ask any questions, no matter how stupid you think it is. Your father WILL need this information later.

    3) Go to the supermarket and buy muffins, bagels, cream cheese, crackers, cookies and fruit plates. Bring it to the nursing station/desk in the CCU and make sure the nursing staff knows it’s from your family. They will appreciate the “thank you for taking good care of my dad” and will definitely take the time to talk to you about any questions you have regarding procedures, after care, etc. CICU and CCU staff were touched to get these big bags of goodies when my husband had his heart valve replacement surgery.

    Be safe, don’t start drinking. He WILL be okay. The effects of a mild heart attack can be completely erased. Hugs to you.

  273. 273.

    Mrs. Polly

    My father had four heart attacks, and not mild ones either, back in the ’70s. He eventually had a triple bypass, and then a stent. He lived exactly the way he wanted to for another thirty-five years. That is to say he never retired, got too little sleep, ate insanely rich foods.

    He died at 83, not directly of a heart ailment, but of an overdose of Crestor, which his cardiologist never cautioned him could produce muscle problems. He mistook his muscle weakness for aging, and refused to let anyone know.

    So, John, I’m trying to tell you, should you ever read this far, that though you are freaked out right now, it sounds like your father’s prospects are excellent. The heart is possibly the most well-mapped, intensely studied organ in the body. I’m also saying that vigilance is warranted, and perhaps your father should have a gerontologist who will understand the problems of an older guy, including how differently drugs act upon an older body.

    Best to you and your dad. You might get a music player and some of his favorite tunes~ it made a big difference to my father.

  276. 276.

    MJ

    I’m a bit late to the party John, but just wanted to let you know that I’ll be keeping you & your family in my prayers.

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