Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

So many bastards, so little time.

Don’t expect peaches from an apple tree.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Everyone is in a bubble, but some bubbles model reality far better than others!

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

Ah, the different things are different argument.

You cannot shame the shameless.

They were going to turn on one another at some point. It was inevitable.

Come on, man.

The words do not have to be perfect.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

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  3. 3.

    Comrade Mary

    There’s a joke floating out in the ether right now involving “prostate”, “prostrate”, and “supine”, but my gob is so thoroughly smacked that I won’t even attempt it.

    Headache. I need something for it.

  4. 4.

    General Stuck

    NH Republican Jeanine Notter asserted that the pill causes cancer. Prostate cancer. In men.

    Eggsactly, And the main reason I decided to stop taking it.

    Mr. Wizzzzzzzzard!!

  8. 8.

    scav

    Yes, We’ve turned radically centrist just for a bit. No doubt we’ll swing back hard left in a sec.

    ETA: and no, none of that right justification shit for us either.

  11. 11.

    Paul in KY

    The mechanics of that must be somewhat convoluted. I have an idea, but I will refrain from writing it down at the moment.

  12. 12.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Um, I’m not as stupid as this guy…I know that my potential to make a baby does not involve ovulating. So why would I ever take a birth control pill that is designed to prevent ovulating?

    Help me out here, guys, this is causing my haid to hurt.

    Oh, a woman suggested this? Ok, now I’m even more confused, and concerned that this lady has not read the fracking manual for her plumbing…

  15. 15.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Centered for me on Chrome. I think John fat fingered something when posting.

    on edit: ah, back to normal, problem found, fixed, happy happy joy joy!

  16. 16.

    Comrade Mary

    Oh! John has given us centered alignment! Haiku, anyone?

    Hard decisions now
    Risk squalling red-faced infant, or
    Take another pill

  18. 18.

    John Cole

    For god’s sakes, you ninnies. I didn’t close a bracket. It’s fixed now.

    OMG JESUS CHRIST THE PAGE IS CENTERED. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! FOLLOW ME TO FREEDOM!

    fer fuck’s sake.

  19. 19.

    Soonergrunt

    You beat me to it, John.
    This is how Republicans use data and statistics.
    There’s no link between greenhouse gasses and global warming, but oral contraceptives used by women cause prostate cancer in men.

    Side note–this is the same NH Representative who suggested that cancer victims didn’t need the new health care law because they could cover all of their costs in this manner:

    “Americans are generous people, they’ve been known to be generous people, and I think that when – maybe you’ll agree with me – that when someone in their community has cancer and no insurance, they’re going to rally, they’re going to fundraise, and they’re going to get the treatment that person needs.”

    Presumably car washes and bake sales.

  20. 20.

    Reason

    I loved David Koch’s comment, especially considering NH Republican Jeanine Notter is a woman, not a man. Maybe actually watch the video…?

  25. 25.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @John Cole:

    Well, you fixed the problem, as I indicated.

    You must be aware that we notice these small things, ya know.

    Thank you for your prompt attention!

  28. 28.

    cmorenc

    I’m dumbfounded that such a substantial faction within the GOP thinks attacking birth control is a productively winning tactic with the general electorate. Most people, women included don’t personally plan to have abortions, and so as long as the focus was on this issue, it didn’t have as much resonance outside those for whom anti-abortion is of single-issue importance. However, most people (especially the vast majority of women who aren’t on-board with the anti-birth control jihad) DO have a strong personal investment in convenient, comfortable access to birth control, irrespective of whether it potentially might to prevent implantation of fertilized eggs comprised of a small number of divided cells. The argument that this is killing a human being simply doesn’t have any resonance with most people, including women, outside the circles of anti-abortion fanatics. How can this possibly not prove to be a strongly counterproductive political strategy (at least I hope so)?

  30. 30.

    scav

    personally, I was just enjoying snarking about something that wasn’t likely to involve actual human death or disease for a small momentary change.

  31. 31.

    wrb

    If you clamp an aspirin between your knees while shoving a pill up your ass, reproduction might not yet be impossible, but it would be getting close.

  34. 34.

    Brachiator

    NH Republican Jeanine Notter asserted that the pill causes cancer. Prostate cancer. In men.

    So, is NH changing their state motto to “Live stupid or die?”

  36. 36.

    Southern Beale

    OMG I was just coming over here to give you the link. Can you IMAGINE? Birth control causes prostate cancer in men, and the HPV vaccine causes mental retardation. This is Republican science.

    Good lord. Someone save us from these morons.

  37. 37.

    Paul in KY

    @cmorenc: They damned well better ensure their wimmens all get an absentee ballot that they get to fill out (except in Oregon, where that kind of thing can never, ever happen).

  38. 38.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Paul in KY:

    I have an idea, but I will refrain from writing it down at the moment.

    “I have discovered a wonderful proof which the margin is too small to contain.”

  39. 39.

    J

    To be sure, the one man known to have mistaken Birth Control pills for a suppository did develop prostate cancer, but further studies will be necessary to establish causation.

  40. 40.

    Suffern ACE

    @cmorenc:

    I’m dumbfounded that such a substantial faction within the GOP thinks attacking birth control is a productively winning tactic with the general electorate.

    It’s not. But it is a good way to get Foster Fleiss’ money. Just like no one really wants to end social security, but that’s a good way to get Pete Petersen’s money. See how that works?

  41. 41.

    Linnaeus

    Here’s the “link” Notter’s talking about. It’s a statistical correlation for which there’s no explanation. The authors of the study offer some conjecture, but also stress that women shouldn’t stop taking oral contraceptives.

  42. 42.

    SiubhanDuinne

    O/T, and quite possibly mentioned elsewhere, but it appears that the Mittster is running scared in the opposite direction from has chosen not to participate in the Georgia CNN debate before Super Tuesday.

    Hahahahahahaha.

  44. 44.

    JC

    Ahahahahaha! (takes a moment to breathe)

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!

    Oh my God, this is just getting better and better!

  45. 45.

    slag

    NH Republican Jeanine Notter asserted that the pill causes cancer. Prostate cancer. In men.

    Exactly. And there’s no telling what birth control might be doing to the chicken that’s used to pay for it. More research must be done!

  47. 47.

    Southern Beale

    Here’s something of interest:

    Conservative Radio Host Michael Berry in Accused of Hit-and-Run Accident After Patronizing Gay Bar
    __
    Conservative radio host and former City Councilman Michael Berry was reportedly seen on security cameras in a hit-and-run accident with another vehicle outside TC’s Show Bar in Houston’s Montrose District on January 31, KPRC reports.

  48. 48.

    Suffern ACE

    @Southern Beale:

    This is Republican science.

    Well, no. But it’s the facts that are dispensed from preachers all over the country every Sunday and on Pat Robertson’s show.

  49. 49.

    bemused

    Who the hell is this Dr. (sounds like) Bernstein she is quoting, someone with a doctorate from Evangelical Creationism U.?

  51. 51.

    kdaug

    @General Stuck:

    Eggsactly, And the main reason I decided to stop taking it.

    I had to stop taking it because my wife kept complaining that it was costing us twice as much.

  52. 52.

    RicoUnsuave

    Of course if Ann Coulter is on birth control, it could have that effect on her and her adam’s apple.

  53. 53.

    gwangung

    Well, no. But it’s the facts that are dispensed from preachers all over the country every Sunday and on Pat Robertson’s show.

    Um, like she said…Republican science.

  54. 54.

    Paul in KY

    @Gin & Tonic: Since you asked: The evil estrogen goes up the man’s urethra while he is presenting her with the gift of life & then evilly lodges in his prostrate, evicting the good prostatites & starting cancer.

    See, science is easy peasy.

  56. 56.

    fastandsloppy

    So the GOP is going all in with the crusade against birth control? Wow. That is like the Democratic party getting so liberal they started campaigning against eating meat in an election year.

  59. 59.

    Raven

    @cmorenc: You should have heard fuckin Mika this morning. “these are just Santorum’s personal beliefs, nothing to do with policy positions”.

  60. 60.

    kdaug

    @Fanshawe:

    In my day, men avoided prostate cancer by keeping an aspirin between their knees.

    Yeah?

    Well in my day, men avoided prostate cancer by getting eaten by Raptors.

    Take that, Frosty Freeze!

  61. 61.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    Shorter reax: those women are giving us ass cancer with all their pissing and slutting around.

  62. 62.

    rb

    She’s regurgitating a speculative analysis from a few months back showing an association between high rates of oral contraceptive use (aggregated at the national level) and elevated rates of prostate cancer.

    Terrible confusion of causation and correlation, but in addition Notter clearly hasn’t the first clue about what the study was actually doing or saying. She actually implies that a particular woman taking the pill could somehow transmit prostate cancer to a male partner. Christ the stupid on this one is overwhelming.

  63. 63.

    Rafer Janders

    @Soonergrunt:

    “Americans are generous people, they’ve been known to be generous people, and I think that when – maybe you’ll agree with me – that when someone in their community has cancer and no insurance, they’re going to rally, they’re going to fundraise, and they’re going to get the treatment that person needs.”

    This is, indeed, true. Recently one of the neighbors developed a rare form of ovarian cancer, and one block party, a car wash, and three bake sales later, we’d raised over $700,000 to cover the costs of her chemo, surgeries, and long-term hospitalization.

    Unfortunately, now it turns out another neighbor has also developed cancer. Given that we blew almost three-quarters of a mil last year, we’re all kind of tapped out, so this other neighbor is just going to have to suck up and die.

  64. 64.

    slag

    @Linnaeus:

    It’s unclear what exactly could tie the pill to prostate cancer, but researcher said estrogen hormones released in urine that recycle through the water supply could account for one possible explanation.

    Hmmm…so, we could either work to improve our water quality or get rid of the entirety of medical science.

    You can drink clean water or use antibiotics but you can’t do both.

  65. 65.

    Peej01

    I just went to the link and read the article. Nowhere is anything mentioned about all th e hormones going into animal feed or given to animals in other ways…which is probably the real problem.

  66. 66.

    Raven

    It’s a conversation probably every family should have, about birth control and its role in society with their own kids. He’s got his own, and he stands by them, and I think he’s an interesting part of the national conversation in terms of where our society is going. And there is a lot of risky behavior out there that happens to be connected to birth control. So there’s a whole other side to this conversation. And not once did I say should it be banned, or should it not be covered by health insurance. But I think it’s OK to have those beliefs or those concerns.

    Mika

  67. 67.

    Anoniminous

    @Linnaeus:

    From the link:

    Men living in continents like North America and Europe are at higher risk for prostate cancer, and countries within those nations also have a higher use of oral contraceptives, they found.

    That’s it. That’s the “proof” (sic.)

    Men in NA and Europe also watch more television, spend more time driving, mow more ‘yard-miles’ per year, and spend more time on blogs than their counterparts in, say, Tibet.

  69. 69.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    @slag:

    to be fair, if you just choked the chicken in the first place, you could avoid all these cascading consequences.

  70. 70.

    Steve

    It seems highly implausible that birth control pills would cause prostate cancer, but I’m going to stop taking them anyway just in case.

  71. 71.

    Linnaeus

    @slag:

    You can drink clean water or use antibiotics but you can’t do both.

    Clean water and antibiotics? A soshulist outrage for which we will all pay dearly. To the ramparts, chuzzlewits!

  73. 73.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Marcellus Shale, Public Dick:

    Um, you’re not supposed to mention that.

    “White Eye” was a common malady toward the end of any deployment when I was in the Army. All that backed up bodily fluid with no outlet, ya know…

  74. 74.

    Soonergrunt

    @Rafer Janders: Not right. You should all put your houses and cars up for auction to support your other neighbor. She deserves a first chance as well. Now if your first cancer-stricken neighbor relapses, well, she’s screwed and rightfully so.
    Unless she puts an aspirin between her knees. I hear that cures lots of things.

  75. 75.

    jpeg

    In her defense, a study has found that countries with high usage of birth control pills corresponds with higher incidents of prostate cancer. The hypothesis is that women pee out all those girlie hormones and then we drinks it and gets the cancers. It’s just a correlation, though. Those areas also have higher usage of things like pesticides and electricity and an unusually high readership of Balloon Juice.

  79. 79.

    Brachiator

    @Southern Beale:

    OMG I was just coming over here to give you the link. Can you IMAGINE? Birth control causes prostate cancer in men, and the HPV vaccine causes mental retardation. This is Republican science.

    everybody sing

    Weird Science

  80. 80.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Raven:

    And there is a lot of risky behavior out there that happens to be connected to birth control.

    For example, you might have a child who is a screaming ninny, like Mika.

  82. 82.

    slag

    @Marcellus Shale, Public Dick:

    to be fair, if you just choked the chicken in the first place, you could avoid all these cascading consequences.

    Good point. A good choke of the chicken is the archetypical small government solution.

    ETA Will someone refresh my memory? Who was the chicken lady? Californian? Didn’t win her election maybe? I don’t recall.

  85. 85.

    Brachiator

    @jpeg:

    In her defense, a study has found that countries with high usage of birth control pills corresponds with higher incidents of prostate cancer. The hypothesis is that women pee out all those girlie hormones and then we drinks it and gets the cancers

    So, people should stop drinking women pee…

  86. 86.

    Svensker

    I want to know how the Obama campaign is making these people say all this stupid, hilarious, and outrageous shit. Who’s the ratfucker? (And does the rat have an aspirin between its legs?)

  88. 88.

    Quarks

    There may well be some environmental effects from the increased release of estrogen and other hormones through urine because of increased use of the pill/Depo-Provera/Nuva and/or increased hormone use with livestock.

    With that admitted to, there are definitely well documented environmental effects from a rapidly increasing population, and no documented link between the pill and prostate cancer.

  90. 90.

    shortstop

    @PurpleGirl: You can get oncological treatment for $100K where you live? I need to move to your neighborhood and get me some of that cut-price healthcare.

  91. 91.

    Raven

    Bad news for the Nutter

    Gender Equity on Science Faculties Might Have to Wait a Century, Study Finds

    It could take nearly 100 years before half of all professors in science and engineering are female, according to an article out on Friday in the journal Science.

    The assertion is shocking because people in academe have been working for decades to increase the number of women in those fields. The article says it will take so long for universities to attain equal numbers of women and men even though the proportion of women being hired in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics—the so-called STEM fields—is on the rise and even though, once women are hired, their rate of advancement is the same as for men.

  93. 93.

    trex

    @ Rafer Janders

    Given that we blew almost three-quarters of a mil last year, we’re all kind of tapped out, so this other neighbor is just going to have to suck up and die.

    Why isn’t there a Like button on this thing? [looks around vainly on page, randomly pressing areas]

  94. 94.

    scav

    O! what would I give if I could only find a correlation between elevated rates of contraceptives in water and increased global temperatures . . . . .

  95. 95.

    trollhattan

    @Soonergrunt:

    Underwear Bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab just got himself a one-way ticket to scenic Florence, Colorado.
    Two years and 1.5 months from crime to LWOP sentence. And those assholes on the other side still think that military commissions are the right way to deal with most terrorists. This WTF moment brought to you by the fully functional American Justice System.

    Oh sure, you say that now but who’ll be talking when he uses his Super Powers and flies right outta da joint, huh?

  97. 97.

    pragmatism

    @slag: Sue Lowden, Nevada. gotta love the silver state.

    also, too, there was a chicken lady on kids in the hall. preferable to sue lowden.

  98. 98.

    Nancy

    Can we finally admit that “the woah” has never ended and give them their own country? I’ll cede them Texas, Louisiana, Mississipi, Alabama, and Georgia. Raven, I have 23 acres; you are welcome to build a house on my place.

    We will need to build a big wall/fence to keep out their economic refugees.

  99. 99.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    @Svensker:

    Calling the Prez’s special gifts 11-dimensional chess is actually selling him short. This is beyond the power of the Vulcan race. Surely we’re dealing with a member of the Q-continuum in the White House.

  100. 100.

    dmsilev

    @slag:

    ETA Will someone refresh my memory? Who was the chicken lady? Californian? Didn’t win her election maybe? I don’t recall.

    Sue Lowden, Senate candidate in Nevada. Arguably the saner of the two Republicans in that primary, which is kind of scary to put it mildly.

  101. 101.

    PurpleGirl

    @Peej01: ah, yes. You beat me to making this point. Feed animals get all kinds of biomedical junk these days and it is causing problems in the food chain.

  102. 102.

    shortstop

    @trex: You’ve seen the bake-sale cancer funding approach yourself, haven’t you, where your parents live in deep red country?

  103. 103.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    Am I the only one that’s getting a wee bit concerned? It’s getting like Night of the Living Stupid, and I’m afraid that whatever contagion is eating these conservatives’ brains is soon going to break out into the general population (there being so relatively little conservative brains to consume, and whatnot).

  112. 112.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Nancy:

    We will need to build a big wall/fence to keep out their economic refugees.

    I can foresee the need for a moat inhabited by sharks with frickin’ laser beams on their heads, myself.

  115. 115.

    Auldblackjack

    OK, 30 years a pharmacist and I can tell you there is some concern that estrogenic mimicking compounds that have polluted our water supply may play a role in increased incidences of prostate cancer. But to single out one ingredient in hormonal contraceptives to make the point is just data cherry picking that would make Dick Phuckin Cheney blush.
    How about if this moran is worried, she suggest we get rid of bis-phenol A and other plastics used to package our foods first.
    I don’t usually get my information regarding prescription products from Jezebel, but this article pretty much covers the issue.

  117. 117.

    pragmatism

    @slag: i know her campaign manager. i do not ever bring the pollo for pediatric idea and execution up when i speak with him, though. they did harry reid a huge favor. so glad i don’t live in NV any more.

  121. 121.

    jl

    I read that Issa says the hearing is really about religious liberty.

    Religious liberty for corporations who don’t want to pay for health insurance? Well, they ARE people. And people have morals.

    Gad, the GOP is pulling out all the stops on the crazy today. Can they keep this up until the general election? I hope so.

    Wasn’t there a self appointed minister of a self created religion who handed out divinity degrees so guys could get out the draft during the Vietnam war? Isn’t that the same thing as what Issa says he is talking about?

    Also, too, need to get some Congresscritter to hold hearings on the potential immorality of Boehner p 1 l ! z.

    Edit: I note that some brave anonymous commenter laid down his sanity to coin ‘Boehner p ! 1 / s’ earlier today. Don’t remember who it was. Please keep this brave commenter in your thoughts today.

  122. 122.

    PurpleGirl

    I was away from the blog for a few hours; what is this business about “holding an aspirin between your knees”?
    Thanks, in advance for the answer.

  123. 123.

    Waldo

    @Raven: I saw that. It’s a sad frackin’ comment about Morning Blo when Mike Barnicle and Willie Geist are the show’s voices of reason.

  125. 125.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Churchlady320:

    Ooooohkay.

    This seems to be (and pardon my graphic language here) pretty much not what I learned in basic sex ed 101 back in 7th grade, which covered the biological aspects of human reproduction while simultaneously leaving out how exactly the pen1s found its way into the vag1na in the first place, that is, the entire social aspect of human reproduction.

    That is, the male injects fluids into the female that contains the little swimming Marines that hit the beach and try to break through the defenses of Fort Ovum and then do a little happy dance with the chromosomes inside and the result is, if all goes well, a screaming little tax deduction and mobile fertilizer dispenser nine months later who eventually turns into someone you bail out of jail for driving a hot rod Lincoln 135mph down the Grapevine.

  126. 126.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Soonergrunt:

    Presumably car washes and bake sales.

    Yeah, because people don’t get tired of shelling out for $10 fundraiser cupcakes every other day.

  130. 130.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Bruce S:

    FYI – this kook is a state rep. Not part of today’s hearings in Congress. Small favors, and all that.

    You could register dumbshitastatelegislatorsays.tumblr.com and have material every day. Seriously, these idiots have a lot of fucking power and most Americans don’t even know who they are when they vote for them.

  131. 131.

    Hewer of Wood, Drawer of Water

    Someone failed their stats course – obviously never heard of the difference between correlation and causation

  132. 132.

    MikeJ

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    while simultaneously leaving out how exactly the pen1s found its way into the vag1na in the first place, that is, the entire social aspect of human reproduction.

    You expected them to *teach* you about wine coolers?

  134. 134.

    trex

    @shortstop:

    @trex: You’ve seen the bake-sale cancer funding approach yourself, haven’t you, where your parents live in deep red country?

    I have indeed, many times. And while it effectively helps tie the community together, creates a market for locally crafted goods, puts some money in the pocket of an individual without health insurance, and provides a cheap meal on a Saturday night – one thing it does not do is come anywhere close to covering the costs of ongoing treatment, surgeries, or hospitalization that are ordinarily paid for by having a health insurance policy.

    And yet, the individuals involved continue to vote Republican and fight greater access to health care.

    I think the dynamic boils down to something like this: they’d rather think of themselves as good, suffering Christian people who are as self-reliant as possible even if means some of them go bankrupt and get sick and die than give into a system of soshulizm that would provide them affordable health care and not bankrupt them at the expense of their American identity and their good, suffering Christian souls.

  135. 135.

    Jenn

    My god. Yes, there are real and rather scary environmental problems with hormones and other metabolized medications etc entering our waters – but that argues we should look at better ways of treating sewage, not jump on a ban-contraceptives bandwagon.

    These people are lunatics.

  136. 136.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @MikeJ:

    Well, admittedly, there was that entire non-curriculum-approved casual, ad hoc class in the locker room in which the wine coolers part was explained by those who had been there and done that to those of us who had not been there and done that, while Suffragette City and Let’s Spend The Night Together blared in the background.

  140. 140.

    somegayname

    I’m 100th to mention that correlation does not imply causation, but it needs to be repeated. Basic statistical analysis should be taught in high school.

  141. 141.

    CaptainFwiffo

    This is actually extremely clever. In order to frighten liberals about the terror of “government-run” health care, they’re trotting out the idiots they’d put in charge of it, given the opportunity.

    When it comes to health care, wingnuts are the only thing scarier than insurance companies.

  142. 142.

    AA+ Bonds

    BTW

    have you seen the all-out war, top headlines and everything, on FoxNews.com against Media Matters

    They go through this nervous breakdown over David Brock on some sort of organization-wide level, to please Murdoch or Ailes or some VP, every now and then but they don’t have ammo right now and it’s really weird stuff even for them

    Like, the first subhead story on the FRONT PAGE of their website is about how David Brock needs an armed bodyguard because of right-wing psychopaths but ALSO took a grant from a gun control organization – GOTCHA YOU FILTHY FUCKING F*****T

    That is pretty shoddy work even for them and it is one of those stories where something came from the top down, “Do a David Brock hit and do it yesterday”,

    but at least everyone who bothers to glance at Fox News for a few seconds a day (hopefully everyone on the left) knows that they are inordinately bothered by him, probably because he can back up his analysis of the right with a massive body of proof

  143. 143.

    Gin & Tonic

    @PurpleGirl: Santorum’s money man said that back in his days, the gals would hold an aspirin between their knees as a contraceptive measure.

    Yes, seriously.

  144. 144.

    Calouste

    @Nancy:

    Any list of states that are going to be given to start the New Confederacy/Jesusland/the live implementation of Idiocracy should always start with South Carolina.

  147. 147.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    @PurpleGirl:

    I was away from the blog for a few hours;

    Do not be alarmed. Relativistic time distortion effects are to be expected as we approach the wingularity.

    what is this business about “holding an aspirin between your knees”?

    See the previous thread: “Friess’s Frame”. Then check your calendar to make sure it isn’t April 1st.

  149. 149.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    The obnoxious little twit that is leading the charge against Media Matters Vince Coglianese, is a graduate of my local RWNJ radio station. He was obnoxious when he was hosting “Youth Points” and I knew he would be even more obnoxious once he was hired by The Daily Caller. Lockwood Phillips, the station owner, was about pissing himself with pride that his little protege was appearing all over Fox News.

  154. 154.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    @Soonergrunt:

    Well, HRT for trans women definitely lowers the risk of prostate cancer, and an orchiectomy is one treatment for prostate cancer. So, I’d say her logic is ass backwards.

  156. 156.

    pragmatism

    @RD: yeah, creepy. i saw their live tour in denver back in the early 2000’s. epic. just another reason to love canadia.

  157. 157.

    AA+ Bonds

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    That Caller story is something else, it ends on the accusation that two employees once fucked in the Media Matters office, according to an anonymous other employee, and that is the brutal revelation that is just supposed to sum up how David Brock is insane

  158. 158.

    AA+ Bonds

    The funny thing is that if we can get this to blow up, get a lot of people on the Right to repeat this line, Republicans will take a hit fundraising with pharmaceutical companies and that is a lot of dough

    Because the mangled concept is that pharmaceuticals are causing measurable and fatal harm to people through environmental contamination

    And that is one of the biggest fires that those companies’ executives are trying to put out right now through information management and an explosion of this story will blow a hole through years and millions of dollars worth of work

  161. 161.

    geg6

    @The Dangerman:

    Seriously.

    I don’t even know how to wrap my head around this. Or anyone’s head, even a moron’s head.

    What? The pill has such powerful cooties that they crawl up the man’s urethra and attack his prostate, somehow? Where the fuck do they get these stupid fucking ideas?

  162. 162.

    pragmatism

    @AA+ Bonds: roger ailes (the bad one) has all sorts of bodyguards, bullet proof glass, etc. to protect him from teh gayz. i feel the same about both ailes and brock. i don’t care how crazy they are. i care about how crazy or accurate their output is.

  163. 163.

    cmorenc

    @Raven:

    @cmorenc: You should have heard fuckin Mika this morning. “these are just Santorum’s personal beliefs, nothing to do with policy positions”.

    I have long resisted coming around to the scornful view so many others seem to have of Mika, which is that despite being the daughter of a very intelligent man (Zbignew Brezinski), the real reason Joe Scarborough has her around on the show is to have an attractive blonde woman clearly less intelligent than himself, just not so outright stupid as to too easily provoke too many “dumb blonde” jokes. However, I have finally been worn down by far too much accumulated evidence, of which the above episode is the final straw, to any longer resist adopting this viewpoint myself.

    What basis can she possibly cite why Santorum won’t pursue his personal beliefs as his policy positions, to the the fullest extent he will have practical ability, as President, to get them enacted into law, to affect their enforcement by choice of cabinet officials, to change fundamental law by choice of judiciary appointments, etc? What has Santorum ever said or done that makes her think he doesn’t intend to impose his views on the entire country, especially to change the political balance of power in this country such that those of similar views can grab the reigns of power? The reason he wants decisions over contraception and abortion to be shifted entirely to state level is that he thinks the anti-contraception and anti-abortion forces are more likely to win in more places at that level of government than at the federal level. Is she really so thick as to not see that? I have to conclude, following her remark, that yes she is indeed that thick.

  164. 164.

    jl

    @Lojasmo:

    From AA+ Bonds’ link:

    ‘ Prostate cancer expert Anthony D’Amico, chief of radiation oncology at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, said that “it’s hard to know if this is true. This is a study of association, not cause-and-effect. Even the hypothesis it’s based on is questionable.”
    …
    In fact, for a man to get micrograms of estrogen into the blood, he would have to ingest milligrams of estrogen. “You would have to have a lot in the water to believe this,” D’Amico said.

    D’Amico also said that small amounts of estrogen raise the risk for a heart attack. “If you have enough to cause prostate cancer, you also have enough to cause a heart attack — so it’s hard to accept.”

    Based on these speculative findings, “men should not be concerned,” D’Amico said. ‘

    That’s enough for me, I am terrified. Then damn gals and their aspirins birth control pills.

    I’m off the water for good. Where can I discounts on Everclear?

  165. 165.

    trex

    @Raven:

    I am the (infamous) trex from Washington Monthly not the (famous) Trex, Scion of the Internets. Though people often confuse us on account of our similar hair and paleontological profile.

  166. 166.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @AA+ Bonds:

    ZOMG, employees doing the nasty in the office! That’s unheard of in the private sector! Never happens!

    When I was stationed in Honduras for six months of TDY, I had the honor of my cot being located where, three months before I got there, two captains (one male and one female, stop thinking those thoughts, you perverts!) did the nasty and got caught doing it. So my hoochmates and I put together a plaque to commemorate this epic event and placed it above the hooch to memorialize it for all time, or until the hooch was bulldozed.

    Apparently, according to the lieutenant who led the signal platoon responsible for the satellite uplink back to CONUS, they were caught getting it on in one of the perimeter bunkers as well by the roving patrol. He was kind enough to show me where this was.

    For the record, and to keep this comment as on topic as possible, I do not know if she gave him prostate cancer in the process.

  167. 167.

    LAC

    Well, thank God this doof clearly only fucks blow up dolls. No cancer for him!

    Stupid…it’s what for dinner.

    Seriously folks…get your asses to a voting booth. There is no way that this should be allowed to put on a suit and mouth breath into a microphone.

  168. 168.

    jl

    @cmorenc: From what I have seen, everything on the show has to fit within Mornin’ Joe’s comfort parameters, which are narrow and rigid. Otherwise he starts acting out, and gets pissy and boorish.

  169. 169.

    kay

    I just love that she went off-message.

    She’s not supposed to talk about birth control at the birth control hearing!

  170. 170.

    Trentrunner

    Well, the wingnuts are doing something right:

    New CNN poll shows 44% approve of Obama’s contraception compromise, while 50% disapprove.

    Oops.

  172. 172.

    slag

    @jl:

    That’s enough for me, I am terrified. Then damn gals and their aspirins birth control pills.

    Ah yes. Another benefit of the aspirin model. Reusable and therefore less likely to end up in our drinking water. The Republican ecological case against birth control pills is getting more and more persuasive by the minute. I, for one, am looking forward to hearing about how Al Gore being fat factors into the debate.

  176. 176.

    AA+ Bonds

    To be clear, I am seriously suggesting that if you moved the people who disapprove of Obama’s compromise because they don’t like the bishops into the “approve” column then “approve” would probably beat “disapprove” by 2-to-1 in every poll

  177. 177.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Trentrunner:

    OK, what exactly does this mean?

    A lot of people who didn’t “approve” of the ACA didn’t “approve” because they didn’t think it went far enough.

    This is an example of shitty polling questions that only raise more questions, and are designed solely to get you to watch the “analysis” to make sense of them.

    But then, I expect nothing but shitty polling questions from the vermin of the Village, of which everyone at CNN is a proud member.

  178. 178.

    Democratic Nihilist, Keeper Of Party Purity

    ULC has lots of famous ministers.

    @jl: And not-so-famous. I was ordained almost a decade ago. I’ve done weddings and shit. It’s kinda cool.

  179. 179.

    geg6

    @AA+ Bonds:

    but at least everyone who bothers to glance at Fox News for a few seconds a day (hopefully everyone on the left) knows that they are inordinately bothered by him, probably because he can back up his analysis of the right with a massive body of proof

    Nah, they couldn’t possibly care less about that. What really sends them around the bend in regard to David Brock is that he used to be one of them (hello, Troopergate ring any bells?). Then he did a John Cole in 1997 (which proves that he’s at least more sane than Cole is) and they’ve hated him with the intensity of the heat of the sun’s surface ever since.

  180. 180.

    kay

    @AA+ Bonds:

    CNN broadened the question so it came out less favorable.

    Their argument for doing that, which other pollsters didn’t do, seems to be “if we confuse voters enough, they’ll disapprove of this policy”.

    Surveys on this topic tell a mixed story because many Americans know little about the issue. Recent CBS and Fox polls indicate support for the new policy, using questions that describe the new policy in some detail. But in the CNN poll, when asked their opinion of the Obama policy with no details spelled out, support was much less and a large partisan divide emerged. A recent Pew poll also suggests Americans are closely divided, and that poll may hold the key to the differences. Nearly four in ten Americans say they have heard nothing at all about this controversy.
    “The CNN poll illustrates the road ahead for the White House,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “If the administration can’t inform more Americans about the details of the policy – details that some other polls show to be popular – the public is likely to split along party lines. Many will dislike the plan simply due to the fact that this is an Obama initiative.”

    Something really interesting has happened in “news”. They now expect the candidate or party or President to “inform”, which, ya know, is technically their job :)

    It works with their business model, too, because the candidate or Party or President then has to BUY ADS to inform, so it’s a win/win for them.

  181. 181.

    AA+ Bonds

    @geg6:

    Well yes, I know, I’ve given more copies of his book as gifts than probably any single gift item

    If you’ve ever wondered what fuels my posts on BJ, repeated readings of Blinded by the Right is probably about 33-50% of it

    It redefined how I perceived politics in this country and I don’t think the press has even begun to catch up

    It’s also hard to smear somebody who wrote that book which is pretty much a hair shirt where Brock lists off all the absolutely wretched things he did for a place in right-wing media

  183. 183.

    Lojasmo

    @jl:

    Yeah…that was snark. I’m a nurse, and get science pretty well.

    For realz, though, the only water I drink is in coffee and beer.

  184. 184.

    FormerSwingVoter

    Okay, so they’re concerned that the Pill can be correlated with slightly higher rates of certain kinds of cancers. How can we possibly protect these people from themselves?

    WAIT! I’ve GOT it!

    Let’s make it a prescription drug! That way, we know that women will have to consult with their doctor before taking it!

    [Guinness Guy Voice] BRILLIANT!

  185. 185.

    Lojasmo

    @Trentrunner:

    Well, I would have preferred it if he had told them to cram it (if only to give Catholics the vapors) so I guess in a way, I could be put in both camps

  186. 186.

    harlana

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Ok, now I’m even more confused, and concerned that this lady has not read the fracking manual for her plumbing…

    see, you get the girl-icky all over your pee-pee and it has the pill stuff init and your prostate is down there, you know, unnerstand?

  187. 187.

    AA+ Bonds

    @kay:

    I just think it’s a basic failure to appreciate that there are a number of Democrats who STRONGLY disapprove of this compromise, from the left, and will NEVER vote Republican

  189. 189.

    Rihilism

    I hear the pill gives you hairy palms, or makes you go blind, or somethin’ or other. Either way, the pill gives the baby Jeebus the croup…

  191. 191.

    jl

    @slag:

    ” I, for one, am looking forward to hearing about how Al Gore being fat factors into the debate. ”

    How about

    ‘ Flash Siren Alert Developing: The run off from Al Gore’s man boobs causes prostate cancer! ‘

    Actually, I remember (Edit: from reading some health article I did not quite understand) that fat men have more estrogen. So we could do

    ‘ Flash Siren Alert Developing: Fat man pee causes prostate cancer! ‘

  192. 192.

    scav

    There never is a poll response of “I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and so won’t opine at length on it”, not that our fellow loons would use it if it did exist.

  193. 193.

    AA+ Bonds

    For what it is worth I would DEFINITELY put “disapprove” for that poll question and the reason why is, I think the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is a gang of criminals and compromise with the bishops evidences a severe misunderstanding of their philosophy

    Suffice it to say that they are fully self-assured that their plans in this regard trump the Constitution and they are utterly unconcerned with that document as an authority

  195. 195.

    shortstop

    @Rafer Janders: I was thinking the same thing but couldn’t think of a tasteful way to say it. Not that your way was that tasteful, but mine would have been worse.

  196. 196.

    kindness

    In my (druggie) day a little blue pill meant a 10 mg val1um. (Who knew that was a spam filter word? BJ should publish them all so we know which ones to mimic)

  197. 197.

    shortstop

    I was just watching a few videos at the National Geographic site, procrastinating on a project I don’t feel like doing, and spotted this headline: “Even Your Evian Was Pee at Some Point.” I felt I needed to share that.

  199. 199.

    harlana

    Tweety, playing the Friesi clip – wow, first time i’ve seen that! At least Andrew Mitchell had the decency and self-awareness to be speechless. that was priceless.

  200. 200.

    Patricia Kayden

    Well, people keep voting for these idiots, so shrug. Nothing Repubs say can shock me anymore.

  201. 201.

    Suffern ACE

    @AA+ Bonds: Yeah. I guess Tucker Carlson spilled the beans that reporters, especially at MSNBC use Media Matters reporters. And of Course Breitburt challenged Media Matters to a drug test. Not that those reports are inaccurate. So no it is all out war on Media Matters to get MSNBC brass to cut a hole in the connection between liberal pundits and reports from Media Matters.

  205. 205.

    Suffern ACE

    @kay: What it seems to indicate is that when you call something “Obama Policy”, you loose the republicans (big surprise) even if they agree to it. Kind of like some health care reform, where, say, people like ending recisisions,coverage of pre-exisiting conditions, and minimum health insurance standards until you put his name by it.

  207. 207.

    harlana

    @RD: you wonder how any of these people would survive with all regulatory agencies stripped away, defenseless. yes, they have technology on their side, but what about basic resources, what about poisoned food, what about basic protection, security and safety? i don’t care if they have guns, these people are not safe with guns.

    how the hell is the average person going to fend for him/herself without the few remaining protections we have against corporate influence/money/domination? they don’t have an answer for that. i want an answer to that from the Ron Paul people.

  208. 208.

    kay

    @AA+ Bonds:

    I think it’s horserace stuff. Obama has to “get his message out”! WARNING!

    They love that shit. It’s their bread and butter.

    I went to lunch today with Ethan, who is the extremely tall and young and dead-serious Obama2012 organizer who will be working here. They are investing heavily in Ohio, even compared to 2008, which was the biggest organization effort I had ever seen. We may be able to speak with each Ohio voter personally :)

    As you know, they take this hippy-dippy organizing stuff seriously, unlike Mitt Romney, who has one field office in Michigan. One.

  210. 210.

    shortstop

    @kay: That is good news. Maybe we’ll come over there and help y’all instead of going to Wisconsin or Iowa.

  211. 211.

    kay

    @Suffern ACE:

    Yeah. The pollster compares it to health care reform.

    I don’t know why they’re bragging that people are horribly misinformed on the health care law, though. If I were CNN, a news agency, that would embarrass me, but what do I know. The President has a responsibility to inform, and maybe he’s failed at that, but surely they have a responsibility too, and it’s their business.

  213. 213.

    kay

    @shortstop:

    It is good. He’s a former union organizer who worked in south Florida, although he is from, wait for it… SCRANTON! He’s really young so he couldn’t have worked anywhere long, unless he was working in junior high.

    You know that Scranton PA is vital to pundit understanding of Real America, so I’m sure he’ll do fine. He has that SCRANTON MAGIC :)

  214. 214.

    Suffern ACE

    @kay: Yes. The public is misinformed. Although I would note that the president announced that they were deliberating on policy months ago, and announced the policy last month and no one really covered all that much until the other side started running around like lunatics. People don’t know because it is a non-story, or people don’t know because there are lunatics.

    I am going to guess that people don’t know what the bishops are backing and probably think it is just exemptions for catholic hospitals. Perhaps someone should poll the alternative policy.

    I need an aspirin.

  215. 215.

    cckids

    @Soonergrunt:

    Side note—this is the same NH Representative who suggested that cancer victims didn’t need the new health care law because they could cover all of their costs in this manner:

    “Americans are generous people, they’ve been known to be generous people, and I think that when – maybe you’ll agree with me – that when someone in their community has cancer and no insurance, they’re going to rally, they’re going to fundraise, and they’re going to get the treatment that person needs.”

    Presumably car washes and bake sales.

    Ya know, my daughter’s Venturing troop has trouble making enough money for frickin summer camp via these methods. Chemo? No. Way.

    Willfully obtuse idiot.

    eta: the next 2 paragraphs should have been blockquoted too. I’d say FYWP, but I’m pretty sure it was my fault.

  217. 217.

    slightly-peeved

    @194: Except that the goal of the bishops was to not have to cover people’s contraception. Now, because the insurance companies have to offer it themselves, the bishops don’t get any choice.

    i’m sure Obama’s happy to have it called a compromise, but ‘swindle’ is a far more accurate term. And why i approve of it.

  218. 218.

    Jennifer

    If estrogens in the water supply are the cause of an increase in prostate cancer in men, it seems more likely that the wholesale feeding of hormone-riddled food to livestock would be the biggest part of the problem – they feed a metric shit-ton of that stuff to chickens because people prefer breast meat and estrogen makes chickens (and other creatures) grow bigger breastesses.

  219. 219.

    shortstop

    @Jennifer: Which is one of the reasons I stopped eating meat a couple of years ago. Too much nasty stuff in it that doesn’t belong there, and too much work to find the safe versions.

    However, let’s not assume the good representative above is singling out this prostate cancer concern and showing no interest in the other toxins coming to us from all directions. I’m sure that regardless of the political interests of the companies involved, she’s made fighting for a safer water and food supply the centerpiece of her…oh, hell, I can’t even finish.

  221. 221.

    kay

    @Suffern ACE:

    I rage at Democrats constantly for being bad at “messaging” but I don’t have a comparison here.
    The health care law is huge. It’s the biggest piece of domestic legislation in decades. I don’t have anything to compare it to.
    I know conservatives sued on Social Security, and Medicaid/Medicare and launched elaborate bullshit campaigns, but I wasn’t around, so I don’t know if “effective messaging” from liberals or Democrats changed that, or just reality versus their bullshit plus the passage of time.
    I guess he just keeps plugging away, but, boy, it gets exhausting, even to watch. The cycle of policy then freak out and the calculated whipsawing of the public borders on some kind horrible inevitability where no one has the balls or spine to JUST STOP IT.
    I am no longer confident that “effective messaging” can end this. Too many people are relying on it to make a living.

  222. 222.

    LanceThruster

    Is it possible that maybe the public is just punking us all by electing these morons for entertainment purposes?

    We are *not* amused!

  223. 223.

    Ruckus

    So men didn’t get prostate cancer before the pill?

    Statistics – I don’t think they mean what conservatives think they do.

  225. 225.

    General Stuck

    Thankfully, my NF movie came in today. Killer Elites. A shoot em up with Deniro, Clive, and some other dude. All this vagina outrage stuff has caused a dip in the old testosterone, added to that, the cootie inspired estrogen invasion, makes a little braindead macho in order.

    Fucking wingnuts caused all of this. Real men don’t sniff around Eve’s medicine cabinet. They bring back dino meat, or a bucket of Colonel Sanders.

  226. 226.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @Southern Beale:

    Someone already hit his wiki page:

    He is married to Nandita “Nandy” Berry, a lawyer who hails from Hyderabad, India. He will need this connection, as he faces troublesome questions regarding his behavior at a local Gay Bar, when he drank with local patrons and took in a Drag Show, just to leave that same night and ram another vehicle in the parking lot and take off in a hit and run.

    Teh internets iz fast! Maybe he wasn’t lucky in hitting on someone at the bar so he decided to hit a car. What I want to know is if he rear-ended it.

    Conservatives are weird.

  228. 228.

    somegayname

    @Ruckus:

    So men didn’t get prostate cancer before the pill?

    This could be true while still independent of the pill. Certain diseases are ‘Rich country’ diseases, such as heart disease, and I’d wager that access to the pill is correlated to GDP as well. The pill arrived around the time of a lot of medical and societal shifts. Before the pill early childhood deaths were more prevalent than they are today. Diagnosis probably improved as well.

  229. 229.

    Svensker

    @gocart mozart:

    Majority Muslim countries tend to have a warmer than average climate, but that does not mean that Islam causes global warming.

    Now, see, I think it does. That would also explain the jihadist training camps in South America. Wouldn’t it?

  230. 230.

    Darnell From LA

    Ah, the lamentable consequences of ‘prostate-on-snizz’ sexual contact, while taking the pill. Happens all the time.

    Have we finally reached “peak wingnut?”

  231. 231.

    Darnell From LA

    @General Stuck:

    “Hey honey, you taking the pill?”

    “Why yes, I am.”

    “I thought so. My prostate is the size of a honey dew! Better call Santorum!”

  232. 232.

    Linnaeus

    @gocart mozart:

    correlation is not causation. Majority Muslim countries tend to have a warmer than average climate, but that does not mean that Islam causes global warming.

    Right. And folks like Ms. Notter either don’t understand that or figure that their voters don’t understand that.

  234. 234.

    Nancy nuliform Beckwith

    …wish i believed these people were as stupid as they act..but i don’t….they want everyone to Think they are so they can keep getting away with the horrendous crap they been getting away with…works like a charm if people think they just don’t know any better…but, honestly…think about it..just like the smarter criminals go for the insanity plea..and these people are indeed criminals of the Highest order. As for whats in your water…All medications Everyone takes are in that water, can not be filtered out (without Great cost to them that they will not spend on just us grunts)along with urine and a multitude of other toxins n pollutants, and all with Gov blessing….they know..they know what they do..and they do NOT care what happens to us….as long as the masses keep dismissing them they have no need to care

  236. 236.

    Hob

    I’m sorry to spoil y’all’s innocence, but this estrogen poisoning situation has nothing to do with the water supply.

    It’s just that all the straight men in America have developed a powerful interest in cunnilingus– typically for several hours every day. Sadly they don’t realize what this selfless act is doing to their body chemistry.

  239. 239.

    Terry

    You know, I heard the old “aspirin between the knees” joke all my life, until the past 30 years. It never once occurred to me that it was a real joke. What it is, is a man saying that contraception is easy – meaning a woman just doen’t have sex. How “easy” that is, is conflated with the ease with which one can hold a pill between one’s knees, which is in fact pretty easy.

    The point is that it is easy for a woman not to get pregnant. So, if she does, it’s her fault and not the man’s. After all, it was she who failed to simply keep those knees together.

    It reflects the mindset of someone you do not want to be married to.

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