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by John Cole|  March 5, 201211:14 pm| 81 Comments

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Boy, it sure was nice watching that awful person Ivy start to get her comeuppance tonight on Smash.

In other news, I was thinking earlier today, and it sure is amusing that it used to be that Rush called all feminists ugly man-hating lesbians, but now apparently they are all man-hungry sluts and prostitutes. You just can’t keep up with the wingnut narrative anymore.

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  1. 1.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 5, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    How do I get rid of this goddam mobile app that just took over?

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    March 5, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Either way they fall under the category of women who won’t fuck him. So it’s actually logically consistent for El Rushbo there.

  3. 3.

    BO_Bill

    March 5, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Yutsano has a way with words. Anyway, people from Oregon make terrible pizza.

  4. 4.

    Mark S.

    March 5, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    @Chuck

    Leaving a comment usually gets rid of it (for a while). I only get it on my girlfriend’s laptop, not the one I usually use. It doesn’t matter which browser I use (FF, Chrome, or IE) so I’m guessing it’s some setting she has on it.

  5. 5.

    Ruckus

    March 5, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    What Chuck said. About 75% of the time when I click comments or individual posts I get the mobile site. It is very irritating. Not near as irritating as conservatives but still.

  6. 6.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    March 5, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    “You just can’t keep up with the wingnut narrative anymore.”

    That a feature, not a bug. Moving goalposts is one thing but they move the fuckers all over the universe.

  7. 7.

    CT Voter

    March 5, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    If by “feminists” you mean “women”, well, then, yes, it’s been an interesting week. Rush doesn’t care for Feminazis, otherwise known as women.

  8. 8.

    suzanne

    March 5, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    I just long for the day when we all collectively realize that sex is something that normal people do, just like normal people play sports and drive cars and engage in manual labor and go to public places and that normal fucking health care involves helping people keep their bodies healthy so they can live the lives they want to live, end of fucking story.

  9. 9.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    Reading winger blogs, it is mind blowing that this one man, a radio gas bag for the right, is so important to these people. It’s like Jesus getting crucified, all over again. A fucking talker on the radio is that important to animate the right wing shock troops. And of course, it’s all Alinsky and his puppet Obama to blame. I won’t say the republicans are done for electorally, but they sure as shit are clutching the rim of the toilet bowl swirling below.

  10. 10.

    pragmatism

    March 5, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    If every liberal everywhere were civil 100% of the time, then what rush says could be scrutinized fairly. So come on people.

  11. 11.

    Carl Nyberg

    March 5, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    IANAL, but I do know a little about defamation law in Illinois. In Illinois calling a woman is defamation per se (don’t need to demonstrate specific harm).

    Methinks Sandra Fluke should be suing all these Right Wing blowhards for defamation. On the low end, they (their insurance) will pay $100,000 just to avoid the litigation.

    And I don’t think any of these people want to go to a jury trial. You never know when a jury will slap a big verdict on a defendant who is basically a piece of shit.

    Sandra Fluke may have a future in philanthropy. Maybe the Rush Limbaugh Foundation for Feminism.

  12. 12.

    Mark S.

    March 5, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    And just like that I got the stupid mobile site again. There’s a button at the bottom that says “Switch to our desktop site” that doesn’t work.

  13. 13.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 5, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    I have no idea why the damned thing turned on, the button turned it off after “invalid address” and reload.

  14. 14.

    Trentrunner

    March 5, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Maybe spoiler tags for West Coast Smash fans?

  15. 15.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 5, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Oh hell

  16. 16.

    amk

    March 5, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: but peak wingut ?

    nevah.gonna.happen ?

  17. 17.

    burnspbesq

    March 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    @pragmatism:

    If every liberal everywhere were civil 100% of the time, then what rush says could be scrutinized fairly

    Didn’t your grandmother teach you that two wrongs don’t make a right?

  18. 18.

    Mark S.

    March 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Does anyone play Assassin’s Creed? I got AC II a couple weeks ago, found it really fun, but now I’m finding Brotherhood a tedious slog.

  19. 19.

    pragmatism

    March 5, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    @efgoldman: I thought (wrongly) that the ridiculousness of 100% compliance by 100% of a group was apparent. Will increase snark level.

  20. 20.

    BO_Bill

    March 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    I’ll bite. A liberal with reach twice that of Rushbo is Barry.

    One thing Barry did, through ghost writers, is brag about refusing to have white friends in college, unless they were Marxist professors, or ‘post structural feminists’. Barry’s action is beyond race realism, his is straight out racism. And he allows others to use his good name to brag about it.

    Barry not only was not punished for allowing this hatred to be published in his name, he now makes $400,000/year and gets free plane rides.

    And people from Oregon suck at making pizza.

  21. 21.

    David Koch

    March 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    Jack-booted liberals are unfairly borking Rush and shredding freedom of speech and the 1st Amendment.

  22. 22.

    Suffern ACE

    March 5, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Well, to be fair to Rush, there was that whole 2nd Wave vs. 3rd Wave conflict in the 1990s, and an internecine Sex War around the same time as the sex panic of the same decade. So maybe he uses the third wave stereotype when discussing young feminists and the second wave stereotype when discussing older feminists. He’s using nuanced stereotypes.

  23. 23.

    Spaghetti Lee

    March 5, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Dude, calm down. The guy’s a regular poster here.

  24. 24.

    pragmatism

    March 5, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @burnspbesq: No she taught to root for spurs instead of the scousers.

  25. 25.

    Spaghetti Lee

    March 5, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):

    They had to pull Brietbart off the cross and dump him in a ditch just to get Rush up there. Of course, they also had to get a sturdier cross.

  26. 26.

    Punchy

    March 5, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    What does Rush have to say to actually be fired? Would the N-word get him canned? Im pretty sure theres nothing he cant say if he turns around 48 hours later and “apologizes” for it. Clearchannel is some greedy fucking employer.

  27. 27.

    pragmatism

    March 5, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: No worries. There have been a bunch of those types here recently and my post was admittedly half assed. I sat in the corner a bit and gave myself a snark pep talk. Then I called my mom and she still thinks I’m funny. Thanks spaghetti lee.

  28. 28.

    Cassidy

    March 5, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    @efgoldman: I think your snark meter is broken.

  29. 29.

    Cassidy

    March 5, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: I’m stealing that.

  30. 30.

    trex

    March 5, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    @Pragmatism

    If every liberal everywhere were civil 100% of the time, then what rush says could be scrutinized fairly

    Actually, no. This is a case of defamation, which is a legal issue in addition to being an issue of polity. It would have no bearing on this case If “liberals” defamed individuals every day, just as the existence of other robberies wouldn’t diminish the seriousness of you knocking over a liquor store.

    And you can try and obfuscate with desperate claims of “both sides do it” (they don’t, as the Left has no one anywhere near the likes of Rush and Beck and others when it comes to outrageous, inflammatory and racist statements) but that ain’t gonna help you. There has been an outcry over this by average Americans and advertisers and even notable conservatives. He’s been getting away with this tearing apart the country for too long, and in this case he crossed a line and his assholery caught up with him.

  31. 31.

    Violet

    March 5, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Dude, maybe use a spoiler tag for a show that hasn’t aired in other time zones. Grrr….

  32. 32.

    MikeJ

    March 5, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    @Mark S.: I’ve fallen behind in my gaming. I’m only now playing skyrim for the first time. And I can’t kill the stupid Caller.

  33. 33.

    Spaghetti Lee

    March 5, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    @MikeJ:

    And I can’t kill the stupid Caller.

    That Tucker Carlson is indeed a wily one.

  34. 34.

    pragmatism

    March 5, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    FSM dammit maybe I should troll this place. I’m getting results! WOLVERINESVICTORY!

  35. 35.

    Cassidy

    March 5, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    @efgoldman: You’ve been on edge since Wyldbigot ate his feet with a side of asshole.

  36. 36.

    MikeJ

    March 5, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: If skyrim is crossing into our reality it would explain a lot. I’m guessing Breitbart had been eating alchemical ingredients to learn their properties right before that CPAC “behave” rant.

  37. 37.

    amk

    March 6, 2012 at 12:00 am

    @efgoldman: dood, again, fix your snark meter.

  38. 38.

    trex

    March 6, 2012 at 12:01 am

    @Pragmatism

    My apologies, I guess my snark meter was broken too. I hope you’ll accept this coupon for 10% off at Sizzler.

  39. 39.

    Vixen Strangely

    March 6, 2012 at 12:03 am

    I think all the stereotypes of women are fair to Rush–any given woman might simultaneously be a hairy man-scarer of consumate unfuckability and be a wanton trouser snake charmer entertaining an SRO crowd nightly. There is no conflict between the two scenarios: they are simply intended to degrade by any means necessary.

    (Yes, intentionally using language Limbaugh wishes he could.)

  40. 40.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    March 6, 2012 at 12:08 am

    @Carl Nyberg: In Illinois calling a woman is defamation per se (don’t need to demonstrate specific harm).

    It must be hard to get a date!

    I know, I know. I just couldn’t resist. Agreed it would be interesting to see how such a suit would shake out.

  41. 41.

    Cassidy

    March 6, 2012 at 12:10 am

    @efgoldman: I hear ya. I’ve got three girls (of 4). All of whom will probably be on BC for cycle issues. I’m enraged.

  42. 42.

    Cassidy

    March 6, 2012 at 12:10 am

    @efgoldman: Hold out for the Applebee’s Salad Bar.

  43. 43.

    David Koch

    March 6, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Rush is only being persecuted because he’s a Christian.

  44. 44.

    pragmatism

    March 6, 2012 at 12:15 am

    @trex: Lately I have been into all you can eat iceberg wedges and dough wands at olive garden. Is this coupon fungible as well? @efgoldman: agreed. No worries. It’s fine to vent in here. I’d drive my friends, family and loved ones (even more) batshit if I didn’t have places like here to rue humanity.

  45. 45.

    trex

    March 6, 2012 at 12:16 am

    @Cassidy

    As long as it’s one if the Economy Class versions with no Edamame or Aged Shredded Parmesan I think I can effect a like-amount coupon transfer.

  46. 46.

    Lyrebird

    March 6, 2012 at 12:17 am

    @efgoldman: Rock on in safety, daughter-of-E-F-G!!

    And you helped another sorta-young-ish woman feel competent, here — I did read pragmatism’s comment as snark the first time, and usually I’m the one with the slow humor detectors. :-]

  47. 47.

    Cargo

    March 6, 2012 at 12:18 am

    I’m running out of snark and it’s only march. the sheer tidal wave of hate and shit that is welling up around us is just.. wearying. I don’t know how much more i can take.

  48. 48.

    Lyrebird

    March 6, 2012 at 12:21 am

    @pragmatism:

    I’d drive my friends, family and loved ones (even more) batshit if I didn’t have places like here to rue humanity.

    So true. I might add “..and then laugh my head off” — that’s what got me hooked on this site — but I tend to be overly literal.

    Maybe you or Cleek or someone can work your statement into one of those mottos for the banner: “A place to rue humanity!” is not quite punchy enough…

    Peace all… People who can admit they made a mistake are so darn sexy!

  49. 49.

    pragmatism

    March 6, 2012 at 12:22 am

    @Cargo: Can we drill for domestic snark? Will increasing our domestic output decrease prices? I’m at least a quart low.

  50. 50.

    MikeJ

    March 6, 2012 at 12:23 am

    @pragmatism: Snark here, snark now!

  51. 51.

    TaMara (BHF)

    March 6, 2012 at 12:25 am

    @efgoldman: I came of age when women were first making headway in jobs we now consider commonplace. I went to school with some of the piggiest of men who were allowed to teach and didn’t hesitate to tell us what women could and couldn’t do in the ‘real’ world (a dime for every one of them who told me I’d be happy with a white picket fence, grrr). And I’ve worked in some pretty intensely male dominated offices.

    Do you know what got me through all the crap? A dad who told me from the time I could walk that I could do anything I wanted in the world. So I think with a dad like you, your daughter will do just fine, no matter what crap they throw at her.

  52. 52.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 6, 2012 at 12:27 am

    That’s the same narrative, cuz

  53. 53.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 6, 2012 at 12:28 am

    @Mark S.:

    Brotherhood a tedious slog

    It’s pretty big but it does pick up as it goes along.

  54. 54.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 6, 2012 at 12:29 am

    @Vixen Strangely:

    Note that in fact both of those stereotypes indicate a basic fear that Rush’s wee wee will be bitten off by the Feared Dentata

    A lot of liberals may not get why, but fear of emasculation and rejection by women are without a doubt Rush’s greatest weakness, as well as the weakness of the average dittohead, and they can be made to contort themselves like court jesters when this tune is played

  55. 55.

    Mark S.

    March 6, 2012 at 12:30 am

    I played through Skyrim as a tank and then tried to go through again as a pure mage. I figured I could let my follower do the tanking while I stood back and cast destruction spells. But the stupid apprentice level spells are all chains that injure your follower, pissing them off and making them attack you. So I tried leaving the followers at home and quickly found that mages robes aren’t a hell of a lot of protection.

  56. 56.

    pragmatism

    March 6, 2012 at 12:30 am

    @MikeJ: We’re gonna need the dream team for this project. Tawd Palin, BP, Bobby Jindal’s people to build some snark berms, the list goes on.

  57. 57.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 6, 2012 at 12:31 am

    @MikeJ:

    I can’t kill the stupid Caller.

    What kind of character and what platform?

  58. 58.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 6, 2012 at 12:32 am

    If anyone has that cartoon from Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot where Franken and his illustrators mock up a timeline showing how Rush’s size in silhouette varies as various women reject him, now would be a great time

    Women drive someone like Limbaugh absolutely up the wall because he believes himself to be the ugliest duckling, forever

  59. 59.

    dollared

    March 6, 2012 at 12:32 am

    it has taken all of us 3 days to figure out that Bain Capital owns Clear Channel? Is that just a failure to diversify, or was Willard just betting that if the Wingnut Singularity wiped him off the map, at least he’d make some money off it?

  60. 60.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 6, 2012 at 12:32 am

    I will say it again

    “Snark” is for the weak

    Winners use bile

    One is a Dungeons and Dragons monster from the guy who brought us “Alice Through My Impotent Glans”

    The other breaks down stubborn fatty fatty fats and turns them into nutrients we can use

    Which do you think serves best against Limbaugh

  61. 61.

    Mark S.

    March 6, 2012 at 12:37 am

    @Chuck

    Yeah, I think I’m forgetting that AC II took a little while to get fun. I’m mostly pissed because I thought I could take my little assassin trainees with me to take over a tower and ended up getting all of them killed. Now I’m afraid to let those little guys do anything dangerous!

  62. 62.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 6, 2012 at 12:38 am

    @Mark S.:

    Friendly A.I.: it isn’t

  63. 63.

    dead existentialist

    March 6, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Found this interesting poll from WSJ/Kaiser on race and gender in America (via Wonkette). Fascinating stuff.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/black-women-in-america/

  64. 64.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 6, 2012 at 12:40 am

    @Mark S.:

    mages robes aren’t a hell of a lot of protection.

    heh, heavy armor/two hand broadsword trumps the hell out of cloth. Close fast, two whacks. Lvl57 second playthrough.

    Magic in Skyrim is problematic. The warm up doesn’t help. “Very Hard” setting means things get interesting quick.

    Umpteenth playthough on Oblivion with Battlemage – interesting.

  65. 65.

    Mark S.

    March 6, 2012 at 12:41 am

    I can’t kill the stupid Caller.

    If I remember that one right, you rescue some guy halfway through the dungeon. He’s a pretty good conjurer, and with Lydia or whoever you have, the three of you should be able to kick her ass.

  66. 66.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 6, 2012 at 12:42 am

    @Mark S.:
    They get competent after awhile.

  67. 67.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 6, 2012 at 12:47 am

    @dead existentialist:

    I honestly find those numbers for “very satisfied” to damn the entire poll because there is no way that 50% of any demographic in the United States feels that way about their lives right now – but we are one of many societies where it’s extremely impolite to imply anything less when it comes to personal satisfaction

    It’s practically a taboo, like admitting that you didn’t marry for love – it makes people instinctively look over their shoulders and it’s guaranteed to be under-reported

    In other societies it is often to maintain social cohesion because admitting dissatisfaction is an insult to the kin that sustain you. But in America it is the belief that we will never get rich if we do not behave like impervious psychopaths in imitation of those who loot and pillage our society

    Magical thinking at its worst, those ~50% “very satisfied” responses

  68. 68.

    pragmatism

    March 6, 2012 at 12:48 am

    Snark for some. Bile for others. Tricorn hats and miniature flags for another group.
    Looks like rush is his own worst enemy anyways.

  69. 69.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 6, 2012 at 12:51 am

    @Mark S.:
    Up-armor and up-arm House Carls. Don’t accidently hit them or horses with big ass enchanted swords – real fatal.
    (Daedric Greatsword (legendary) Dam 184, 21 Health absorb, 10 sec soul trap) ooops won’t cut it.

  70. 70.

    MikeJ

    March 6, 2012 at 12:56 am

    @Chuck Butcher: On PC, pretty generic one hander with a little magic, lvl 16.

    The guy who I rescued bit it in the next fight against the three junior mages.

  71. 71.

    Chuck Butcher

    March 6, 2012 at 1:02 am

    @MikeJ:
    xbox360/50″rear projection
    126 Heavy Armor. 100 Two Handed w/sword perks. Enchanted Daedric armor and arms. 100 Enchantment.
    real subtle

    Mage help – you have to close fast for them since they can’t
    Heal other Restoration

  72. 72.

    trollhattan

    March 6, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Dogs and pianos–no good can come from this. (Shamelessly lifted from Rumproast).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zz3K7Pt0rE&feature=player_embedded

  73. 73.

    fortygeek

    March 6, 2012 at 1:15 am

    Geeze…I’m beginning to feel inadequate here at BJ. The last serious gaming I did involved rolling a d20 and praying for a critical hit.

  74. 74.

    kestral

    March 6, 2012 at 1:28 am

    I’d worry about wingnuts and stuff, but right now there’re Reapers to go blow up and a smug guy in a suit to (hopefully, oh please oh please) punch in the face.

    In other words: brb, Mass Effect 3.

  75. 75.

    asiangrrlMN

    March 6, 2012 at 1:35 am

    @pragmatism: I had to read your comment myself a few times to really get that it was snark in part because people actually say shit like that. Poe’s law in effect.

  76. 76.

    Bago

    March 6, 2012 at 2:27 am

    @kestral: I was going to say, there are only three words that exist tonight, (he says waiting in line still…). They involve applying an electricical charge to eezo.

  77. 77.

    Some Loser

    March 6, 2012 at 6:36 am

    @fortygeek:
    3rd Edition?

  78. 78.

    Riilism

    March 6, 2012 at 7:37 am

    @AA+ Bonds: I don’t recall that cartoon…

    I’ll need to consult my signed copy in which the esteemed Senator Al Franken thanks me for voting for him in the 1988 presidential election…

    Yes I did write-in Franken for president in ’88. Yes, I do have a signed copy of RLIABFIAOO in which Franken thanks me for my vote. Yes, I am implying that this one-off autograph means I have a special relationship with a former actor/celebrity/comedian, now Senator, and that everyone should be green with envy and should stand in wonder at my awesomenessness…

  79. 79.

    YAFB

    March 6, 2012 at 7:38 am

    One way to get the normal version of a thread rather than the mobile one is to change the URL manually.

    For instance, the www URL for this thread is

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/03/05/open-thread-1243/#comments

    If you change it to

    https://balloon-juice.com/2012/03/05/open-thread-1243/#comments

    all is well (at least it is here).

  80. 80.

    muddy

    March 6, 2012 at 10:44 am

    @Mark S.: In Skyrim, you can magic the hell out of some dragon armor for yourself as soon as possible and then nothing really does much to you.

    Too bad we can’t have this in real life. I has a want.

    Speaking of real life, does anyone else carefully sort their stuff and assign special chests in your house in Skyrim to store each sorted type? That’s for the anal/ocd people.

    Also, to get rid of all the extra charms and potions and whatnot that you have as extras, clogging up your lists, put them all on a random chicken. It’s funny.

  81. 81.

    tom

    March 6, 2012 at 11:37 am

    According to Ghostery, you have 25-36 trackers loading onto your main page. That’s quite a few – could they be adding to the site problems?

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