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Afternoon Open Thread

by Zandar|  March 21, 20121:06 pm| 67 Comments

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Fred Barnes at the Weekly Standard can’t help himself, suggesting that the Serious Paul Ryan should be Romney’s running mate.  The poor should just be ground up into tortillas anyway.  The Ryan Plan will make so much more of them.

These people are insane.

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    chopper

    March 21, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    keep reaching for that rainbow etch-a-sketch, mittens.

  2. 2.

    AA+ Bonds

    March 21, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Another guy who wants Paul Ryan to be President: Erskine Bowles, Obama appointee to cochair the Catfood Commission

    wocka wocka

    He said this in a speech at UNC last year

  3. 3.

    Clime Acts

    March 21, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    How uncivil of you to mention. Tsk.

  4. 4.

    wrb

    March 21, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    I’m a gonna move to Florida and take up Gunslingin’

    Call me Shane.

  5. 5.

    Mike Goetz

    March 21, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    Would there be enough pomade for a ticket like that?

  6. 6.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    March 21, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    The Serious Paul Ryan might be a good running mate. The one we’ve actually got on the other hand is useless.

  7. 7.

    eyelessgame

    March 21, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    It’ll be one member or another of the Ayn Rand Paul Ryan philosophical human centipede.

  8. 8.

    MattF

    March 21, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    In fact, Mitt choosing Ryan for VP wouldn’t surprise me, based on winger-Romney’s politics. I do understand that the phonemic entities emerging from Romney’s vocalization organ don’t actually mean anything– however the audience at the Republican convention will be mostly wingers, so Romney will be trying to placate them, and that doesn’t leave a lot of choices besides Joe The Plumber.

  9. 9.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    March 21, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    @eyelessgame: Yes, but sadly, the middle one goes on to live.

  10. 10.

    BGK

    March 21, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    SATSQ in abeyance for the moment.

    On a non-political site I frequent, a frequent poster has derailed a thread into a discussion about why southerners fly the “Stars and Bars.” Most of the follow-ups are from posters repelled at the flag and what it represents (which somewhat refreshes my faith in humanity). The de-railer is getting seriously spun up over the multiple tired tropes of: most southerners didn’t own slaves/it’s heritage not hate/it never was the Confederate flag anyway. She’s really whanging away, though, on OMG STATES RIGHTS. Which were so thoroughly and cruelly trampled by the northerners.

    Why is it that not one of these neo-fascists ever actually says what those OMG STATES RIGHTS being trampled were? Aside from, I dunno, owning people as property??? Has anyone ever gotten into an argument with a neo-Confederate where he or she was more specific than that?

  11. 11.

    Mark S.

    March 21, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Is the ending to Mass Effect 3 as bad as all the nerds are saying it is?

  12. 12.

    S. cerevisiae

    March 21, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    Paul Ryan: From let’s eat, grandma! to let’s eat grandma!

  13. 13.

    Napoleon

    March 21, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    @BGK:

    Has anyone ever gotten into an argument with a neo-Confederate where he or she was more specific than that?

    I have not but I understand they will mumble something about high tariffs, which of course wasn’t the reason the south started the war.

  14. 14.

    Mino

    March 21, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    The only one better than Ryan might be Cantor. Iago might make Mitt nervous, though.

  15. 15.

    samara morgan

    March 21, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    Tebow to the Jets!
    alhamdulillah!

  16. 16.

    Ben Franklin

    March 21, 2012 at 1:31 pm

    Waiting for the erudite, think-on-your-feet Mitt to answer why he’s hatin’ on the Seniors.

  17. 17.

    Mino

    March 21, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    @samara morgan: Uh, the fundamentalist poster boy goes to the unwashed agnostics. Should be interesting.

  18. 18.

    Linnaeus

    March 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @BGK:

    Why is it that not one of these neo-fascists ever actually says what those OMG STATES RIGHTS being trampled were?

    These neofascists/feudalists also never seem to know that, under the constitution of the Confederacy they love so much, there was a peculiar institution that no state in the Confederacy could end even if the state’s citizenry wanted to do so. Wonder what that was…?

  19. 19.

    ericblair

    March 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    So, really, does someone actually have to shake the Rombot to reset him? You’d think this could cause some damage to his hard drive if it isn’t parked properly. I’m wondering if you could just format the drive or if you have to delete his root partition before you reinstall RomOS.

    Oh, and do you have to use the latest version of RomOS? ‘Cuz it’s probably full of bugs, I don’t think it has a command line interface, it won’t support the older money management and healthcare apps, and the GUI looks like it was designed by a kindergarten class with poster paints.

  20. 20.

    MikeJ

    March 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @samara morgan: Thank god. I was afraid the Seahawks would get him.

  21. 21.

    Jewish Steel

    March 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Here is the value of a music teacher:

    As a guitarist of average abilities I know one thing I have have going for me is my capacity to practice. Practice and practice and think about practicing and flog myself through yet another round of practicing.

    So, when I took up another instrument, voice, I applied the same principle. If anything, I started out as a less-than-average vocalist. Obviously, if I am starting out in deficit territory, I must practice ever harder. Indeed when I had a gig or recording coming up I would double up on rehearsal sessions. Just like I did with the guitar!

    Last year, with the band playing less, I would come to the microphone sometimes not having sung for quite a while. I noticed I had a great deal of control over tone and pitch and even could coax some vibrato out of my voice. So if you don’t shout yourself hoarse, repeatedly, for days on end, you can sing better? Really?

    I am a self-taught singer. Very likely, a teacher would’ve clued me in early on. Instead, I wasted a lot of effort that could have been put to use in other ways

  22. 22.

    samara morgan

    March 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    @Mino: maybe he should start wearing a yarmulke. broarden his appeal.
    ;)

  23. 23.

    Ash Can

    March 21, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    Fred Barnes at the Weekly Standard can’t help himself, suggesting that the Serious Paul Ryan should be Romney’s running mate.

    Hell, I think that would be awesome. Can’t you just hear the stump speeches?

    Romney: “Bzzzt. Bzrrrrrt. Skreeeeebloop.”
    Paul: “Elect us and you’ll never see another Medicare benefit ever.”
    Romney: ::404::

    The Obama campaign wouldn’t have to spend a penny on political ads. The nightly news reports would be all they’d need.

  24. 24.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    March 21, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    @BGK: I’ve noticed here in Texas that a lot of the people who claim that it was over states’ rights have no idea what rights the states were wanting. That’s why I keep a copy of the part of the Texas Declaration of Secession in my wallet. It contains:

    We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.
    __
    That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.

    For any other state, go here.

    I showed this to one of my coworkers who was saying similar things, and his response was “Well, that kind of puts it all right up front.”

  25. 25.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 21, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @wrb:

    Call me Shane.

    Bei mir bist du Shane. Good enough, Boris? :p

  26. 26.

    priscianusjr

    March 21, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    Booman, didn’t you have a thread the other day on who Romney could possibly choose as his running mate? Well, kudos to Fred Barnes, this is sheer genius. Paul Ryan would be just the perfect choice.

  27. 27.

    jrg

    March 21, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    The Ryan plan’s a joke. Want me to take it seriously? Yank “entitlements” from current seniors. Not those of us who will enter retirement at some later date.

    I refuse to listen to geriatric wingnuts lecture the rest of us about “sacrifice” if they refuse to bend over and take it in the ass. Pretending that the Ryan plan will go into effect later, because there’s no political will to do it today is as wanktastic as it gets.

  28. 28.

    Cliff in NH

    March 21, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    they are doing the q a on the republican budget now, its entertaining. cspan 3:

    live:
    http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3/

    and for later when it’s over:
    http://www.c-span.org/Events/GOP-Budget-Proposal-Mark-Up-in-Committee/10737429208/

  29. 29.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 21, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    They really oughta rename that rag The American Standard–as the perfect bus-station-washroom reading companion for what the Murdochs have turned into the Wall Street Urinal.

  30. 30.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    March 21, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    Here’s an idea: let the phrase “keep shaking that Etch-a-Sketch” become the family-friendly version of “keep fucking that chicken”. I’m sure the Romney campaign would be delighted to have their intended campaign tactics immortalized in the form of a quick and easy catchphrase.

  31. 31.

    priscianusjr

    March 21, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment

    Fuck yeah! Little known fact, the Mexican War was fought not so much to add territory to the United States, as to add new slave states to the South. The basic idea was to continue down through all of Mexico and into Central and South America. Ulysses S. Grant (Personal Memoirs) noted that the annexation of Texas was “from the inception of the movement to its final consummation, a conspiracy to acquire territory out of which slave states might be formed for the American Union.”

  32. 32.

    Napoleon

    March 21, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    @priscianusjr:

    Booman,

    He is posting here? under what name?

  33. 33.

    priscianusjr

    March 21, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    @priscianusjr:

    Booman, didn’t you have a thread the other day on who Romney could possibly choose as his running mate?

    Hey, sorry Zandar, must be getting old, I forgot what blog I was reading. But Booman’s on the BJ blogroll, can’t be too bad, LOL.

  34. 34.

    Napoleon

    March 21, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    @priscianusjr:

    That is why they were always jones to invade Cuba down south as well. There is a reason that congressman Lincoln was against the Mexican War.

  35. 35.

    priscianusjr

    March 21, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    @Napoleon:

    He is posting here? under what name?

    “Zandar”. Um — JUST KIDDING. Read comment No. 32.

  36. 36.

    priscianusjr

    March 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    @samara morgan:

    maybe he should start wearing a yarmulke. broarden his appeal.

    Funny — he doesn’t look Jewish.

  37. 37.

    Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor

    March 21, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    @S. cerevisiae:

    Paul Ryan: From let’s eat, grandma! to let’s eat grandma!

    …further proof that the Oxford Comma must be protected, at all costs.

  38. 38.

    samara morgan

    March 21, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    @priscianusjr: Zandar is booman?

  39. 39.

    Svensker

    March 21, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    @Jewish Steel:

    So if you don’t shout yourself hoarse, repeatedly, for days on end, you can sing better? Really?

    Practicing singing is not the same as “shouting yourself hoarse”. If you push too hard, you damage the vocal chords, see Adele, surgery.

  40. 40.

    Keith G

    March 21, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    A Ryan VP slot would make me crazy happy. I am pretty sure Joe Biden could make him cry.

  41. 41.

    MattF

    March 21, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor: Isn’t the Oxford comma the controversial ‘serial’ comma that comes before ‘and’ in lists of three or more? E.g., “This book is dedicated to my parents, Ayn Rand and God.”

  42. 42.

    Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor

    March 21, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    @MattF:

    Oops, you’re right.

    (But, that said, we should all find friends and allies where/whenever we can).

  43. 43.

    dmsilev

    March 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    In other insanity news, this, from Media Matters is somewhere between hilarious and pathetic:

    In what is probably the biggest mail-related flop since Kevin Costner’s The Postman, WorldNetDaily supersleuth and Where’s The Birth Certificate? author Jerome Corsi is out with a new report today suggesting the Ayers family paid for “foreigner” Obama’s education.
    __
    The allegations are based on Corsi’s conversations with former USPS postman Allen Hulton, who says that he used to deliver mail to Bill Ayers’ parents in a Chicago suburb in the late 80s and early 90s. This should prove to be rock-solid.
    […]
    After Hulton asked Obama what his plans were after he finished school, Obama revealed that his presidency may have “already been pre-arranged” through his confident tone and vaguely Indonesian grinning

    So, there you have it. Bill Ayers is just the front-man for the conspiracy. The *real* masterminds were his parents.

  44. 44.

    Mary G

    March 21, 2012 at 2:11 pm

    Even stupider article Suzanne Collins’ “The Hunger Games” Illustrates the Horrors of Big Government

  45. 45.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 21, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    @MattF:

    “This book is dedicated to my parents, Ayn Rand and God.”

    I still don’t see anything wrong with that.

    Signed,
    Jesus Rand

  46. 46.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm

    @dmsilev:

    vaguely Indonesian grinning

    I have no idea wtf that means. But I’m going to learn how to do it so I can scare the neighbor kids on Halloween.

  47. 47.

    different-church-lady

    March 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    Dear Cole: if you don’t make “Vetting the Bed” a category I’m going to… I’m going to… I’m going to persistently write you E-MAIL insisting you make Vetting the Bed a category.

  48. 48.

    cckids

    March 21, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    @dmsilev“vaguely Indonesian grinning?” WTF??

  49. 49.

    chopper

    March 21, 2012 at 2:25 pm

    @Mike Goetz:

    LOL. ‘sponsored by Dapper Dan hair pomades!’

  50. 50.

    Brachiator

    March 21, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    From Gawker, A Hunger Games Explainer.

    Hunger Games mania is upon us. The Young Adult trilogy-turned-blockbuster is due out this weekend, and some of you out there still have no idea what these crazy Food Games are all about. Fear not, as we have compiled a detailed Hunger Games explainer, just in time for G-day. Be you screaming tween, good-sporting parent, or disgruntled old timer, this explainer will guide you as we as a nation prepare for the newest (and unavoidable) pop-culture phenom.

    I was listening to a movie related podcast the other night. One guy noted that his daughters and friends had already purchased advance ticket to see the film. Twice.

    It’s gonna be big.

    Hear me now and thank me later.

  51. 51.

    Linda Featheringill

    March 21, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    The man did say it was an open thread . . .

    Has anyone seen an explanation for the weather? I’m getting worried and would like to know what’s going on.

  52. 52.

    Howlin Wolfe

    March 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    @samara morgan: wrong thread.

  53. 53.

    David Koch

    March 21, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    The poor should just be ground up into tortillas anyway.

    What’s wrong with that?

    When do you ever see elite “liberal” bloggers write about the poor? Never. To the contrary, many of our progressive betters are supporting Ron “gut the poor” Paul.

  54. 54.

    PeakVT

    March 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Fred Barnes is still alive? Who knew.

  55. 55.

    Bubblegum Tate

    March 21, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    @dmsilev:

    vaguely Indonesian grinning

    Please to add this to the list of rotating blog subheds.

  56. 56.

    cmorenc

    March 21, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    @MattF:

    the audience at the Republican convention will be mostly wingers, so Romney will be trying to placate them, and that doesn’t leave a lot of choices besides Joe The Plumber.

    This is exactly why Joe the Lieberman wasn’t a viable choice within the party for McCain’s VP running mate.

  57. 57.

    danielx

    March 21, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    Well, if Paul Ryan doesn’t work out the Marquis could always have Dick Cheney raised out of his crypt. He knows a lot more than Ryan about grinding people into the dirt, and I’ll bet after a couple of blender pitchers of pureed live puppies he’d be good to go.

  58. 58.

    catclub

    March 21, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: It is like Fight Club, vis a vis Global Climate Change.

    I cannot say any more.

  59. 59.

    catclub

    March 21, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    @PeakVT: Assumes facts not in evidence.

  60. 60.

    Schlemizel

    March 21, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    @BGK:
    Years ago I was on a listserv on the American Civil war and the arguments were legend but the poor little Southrons only had a tiny handful of arguments that were easily shown to be false. This led to them jumping from argument to argument rather than admit they had no answer to the original response.

    My favorite one was the time I used Confederate documents to dismantle this fine old Virgina gentleman’s horsehockey and his response was that he could not possibly be wrong because he was a direct descendant of Harry Lee and therefor RE Lee.

    You can’t win with them you can only hope to shut them up and convince a neutral observer that they are insane & wrong

  61. 61.

    catclub

    March 21, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    I think having both a Pres and VP candidate with the same shoe-polish styled Ronald Reagan hair would be creepy, but maybe that is just me.

    Of course, since they both also qualify under the ‘hollow eyed granny starver’ description, they might as well have the same hair.

  62. 62.

    Brachiator

    March 21, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    You can’t win with them you can only hope to shut them up and convince a neutral observer that they are insane & wrong

    Neutral observers? I am always amused that libertarians often echo the big lie that the Civil War was about states’ rights, and that these same libertarians typically ignore the fact that the Southern economy was the antitheisis of the free market.

    It also reminds me of fraud historians like Victor Hanson, who love praising the Spartans as a model for rugged individualist Real Americans, and totally ignore the entire Spartan enslavement of the helots thingy.

  63. 63.

    Schlemizel

    March 21, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @priscianusjr:
    Yes, Mexico had outlawed slavery which was intolerable to those fine white gentlemen so they had to break away.

    Also, bands of mercenaries were raised throughout the South in the mid-1800’s to invade various Central American countries with the goal of making them slave state. They actually had some success but the nations often banded together to throw them out. The repeated invasions of Spanish held Cuba caused the Spanish government to threaten war against the US if they continued.

    If you go to the Confederate museum in New Orleans you will see a park across the street. In that park is a stone with a bronze plaque saying that on this spot an army was raised to invade Cuba and make it part of the US.

  64. 64.

    LAC

    March 21, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Jennifer Rubin must be levitating with all the orgasms she is having about this possibility. She loves the zombie eyed granny killer with the passion of a bobby-soxer.

  65. 65.

    El Cid

    March 21, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    @catclub: The first rule is that you don’t talk about climate change?

  66. 66.

    Steve Bollea

    March 21, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    Uh oh @zander, you were insufficiently nice to Jonathan Chait, according to Elias over at Ordinary Gentleman

  67. 67.

    rikyrah

    March 21, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    YES, Willard should take Goober Ryan as his running mate

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