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I need a cold shower.
I seriously want to renounce my gender so I can act on the lesbian fantasies I am having right now. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO DO WHAT RACHEL JUST DID? She called a liar a liar.
Martin
Maddow? (Fuck Flash video)
If so, yeah, that was awesome. ‘Liar’ might actually become my favorite 4 letter word.
amk
Hope this vid goes viral. Her bestest segment.
BGinCHI
Nothing would illustrate this better, JC, than the Thompson Twins song “Lies Lies Lies Lies.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA43ETEU1Vg
Let’s stop saying “flip flop,” and start saying “liar.”
amk
How obamacare works for you?
Rita R.
Just watched it on the midnight repeat of her show. Rachel is the best at this kind of thing.
El Cid
“The too-big-to-fail institutions that amplified and prolonged the recent financial crisis remain a hindrance to full economic recovery and to the very ideal of American capitalism. It is imperative that we break up the big banks.”
Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas Annual Report 2011
Alison
Yeah, it was fucking great. I’d love to see her moderate a debate in the general.
I know, I know. Dream on. But still…
Martin
@Alison: Give it time. If we had primaries this cycle, she’d be up there. She’s getting an increasingly large role at MSNBC.
AA+ Bonds
Probably because she’s a liberal political TV talking head, John
Cat Lady
She had Chris Hayes on for the next segment, and the two of them discussing the War on Women was also one of the smartest discussions of the issue you’re going to see on TV. How can you watch her and Chris Hayes’ show and then watch Bob Schieffer? There’s something about truth telling that resonates and won’t be denied, and she’s all about it.
AA+ Bonds
She talked about porcelain/plastic Glocks like they were real on an episode I watched and so to me she will always be pretty goofy looking
That is like the Trutherism of gun control advocates
KG
@El Cid: oh, fuck yes… breaking up the big banks needs to happen, about six years ago.
General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)
Just listened to Rachel L word rant on the Mittster. Wingnuts must be besides themselves watching someone tell the truth on teevee.
BGinCHI
@Cat Lady:
Because you are at least one of the following:
1. Over 75 years of age.
2. Are incurious about the world and lack an education that provoked you to think critically about, well, everything.
3. A dick.
BGinCHI
@AA+ Bonds: Wow, acute and thorough analysis. Maybe just watch CNN, as it will provide that delicious firearm accuracy you crave.
AA+ Bonds
“Wingnuts” don’t give a shit about Rachel Maddow because MSNBC currently gets about 1/2 of the viewers of Fox News daily and about 1/3 of Fox News during primetime
amk
@AA+ Bonds: So ?
James K. Polk, Esq.
Rachel Maddow, sexiest woman alive.
I need a cigarette.
AA+ Bonds
@BGinCHI:
What the F are you talking about
Your response to me pointing out that she was gut-bustingly wrong is to dismissively tell me that basic accuracy on the topic of the goddamn show you’re doing is something for plebes who watch CNN
Which by the way does worse numbers than MSNBC and which I haven’t actually seen on a television set anywhere in private or public in literally years, when I see TV news on in public North or South it’s Fox News
AA+ Bonds
@amk:
C.R.E.A.M.
Cat Lady
@BGinCHI:
Bob Schieffer wouldn’t even mention the War on Women because he’d have to talk about icky lady stuff and just saying those words would imply that he’d already taken a side. Rachel and Chris’s basic assumption about women having a fundamental right to autonomy over their body was their jumping off point to the discussion, not a conclusion that was ever at issue. It was so refreshing!
jharp
Ohio Art was a competitor of mine circa 1988. Became good friends with many connected to the company and have been to Bryan, Ohio many times.
That Etch o’ Sketch sure has been one hell of of an item.
I am certain whoever owns the property could not be happier. And last I knew someone made a keychain version. Fun 4 All or Basic Fun or something like that.
MattF
Heh. “Etch-A-Sketch? I never said that.”
Petorado
Let the countdown begin for Politifact to declare Rachel’s segment “Brassiere on Fire” due to Romney’s comments not being intended as factual statements.
AA+ Bonds
Just realize that this is political porn for liberals, just like the Daily Show, I mean, come all over yourselves but know what you’re doing is what Cole is talking about in the post
BGinCHI
@Cat Lady: Exactly. It’s like watching TV that isn’t ready-made to be mocked.
Her show is good because she is smart but always willing to learn and to admit when she’s wrong.
Opposite of Ol People TV. Their motto: “We are set in our ways! Don’t make us learn!”
Hey, if you’re tired of being part of the solution, then you’re part of the problem. Dirt nap time.
cmorenc
@General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):
Unfortunately, they don’t; they get their misinformation from the hermetically sealed kingdom of FoxSpews, and scornfully avoid watching MSNBC or even NBC because of its association with MSNBC.
trollhattan
Missed opportunities to lurch about in her chair, fling flopsweat and call Willard a “slut.”
Other than that, pretty much dead solid perfect.
BGinCHI
@AA+ Bonds: Dumbass says what?
Maybe go look up “bad faith” in the dictionary, dipshit.
booda
@AA+ Bonds:
What about a reaction to the segment posted and currently up for discussion? I’d be interested to know why you choose to focus on past Rachel segments – that you describe obliquely rather than linking to for reference – or relative ratings numbers of cable news outlets. What about the topic at hand? (Which, by the way, is not Rachel Maddow or MSNBC or CNN or FOX but Mitt Romney’s record of false public statments)
mai naem
Yeah, but the Democrat party is for killing bay-beeez and also, the icky hOmO-sack-sue-ull kissy huggy santorum stuff too. Also.
Yeah, and it is too, good newz for John McCain.
David Koch
Rachel is one hawt slut.
tofubo
john, no worries, politifact will just label rachel a pants on fire liar because she said the truth about romney’s lies, it’s the deflective law of transitive projection or some such thingy, you would have learned about it if you went to the intercollegiate studies or claremont institutes for your ‘enlightenment’ on the issues
cmorenc
@AA+ Bonds:
“The Ed (Schultz) Show” is a much better example of hyper-partisan political porn for liberals. The difference with Rachael Maddow is that in any one on one debate with Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or any conservative media personality you care to name, she’d eat their lunch and drink their milkshake, because she’s not just brilliant-smart (she was a Rhodes scholar), but she always comes to discussions deeply researched in indisputable objective facts to back up her viewpoints, and has wicked-sharp rhetorical skills to frame them with.
David Koch
Such a big difference btwn Rachel and buffoon Olbermann
ABL 2.0
It was amazing.
eemom
Um, Cole? I think you ought to hit that proverbial hay soon, or I have a feeling you’re gonna be up all night. Again.
[Just standing in for your vacationing Mom ‘zall.]
Mark S.
@David Koch:
That’s why you’re my favorite reactionary billionaire. You can appreciate sluts of all political persuasions. Unlike AA+ Bonds, who can only appreciate Fox News sluts.
robertdsc-PowerBook
Always liked Rachel, especially during her radio days. Not too hot for the tv show, but this was great. Thanks.
dead existentialist
Somebody posted this earlier.
BGinCHI
@eemom: Buzzkill.
pseudonymous in nc
What I liked about that segment is that she avoided — probably with care — the modifier “pathological”, even though it seems to fit. Also nice to include the Newt clip, where dimwit Norah O’Donnell is mortified by the response, because it illustrates both the Village’s difficulty in dealing with pathological liars, and the way that even pols consider Mittens to be as familiar with truth-telling as he is with caffeine.
BGinCHI
@dead existentialist: By “poor” he means people who have to order off the menu.
Comrade Mary
I loved this, but I also hope that the Democrats also hit Mitt hard on being gutless and ready to do anything the batshitinsane segment of his party wants him to do.
I’ve seen a few anecdotes from people who reported that they know other people who think that Romney’s just being smart about being the nominee and that he’ll be a nice, safe moderate as president. (Cue also the firebaggers who play the “not a dime’s worth of difference between Obama and Romney” game.)
I’m afraid the average swing voter, barely paying attention until two weeks before the election, has absorbed all the usual bromides: all politicians lie, it’s no big deal, they all flip-flop, no big deal, and if a party or politician says they’re good for the economy, then they probably are.
I am not at all complacent about the fall, because I live in a country that just gave that snake Harper a majority government and a city that elected Rob Ford, an ineffectual, innumerate bully who pushes the voters resentment button at least as well as Sarah Palin, as our mayor.
jgaugust
@AA+ Bonds: I’m sorry. At what point did ratings mean truth, honesty, or intelligence? I’ve always heard this argument from the right that Fox News is better because it has more viewers. So? Being bigger is not always better. And as for the numbers? When your primary viewing age is above 50 and all you have to do is sit at home and be crotchety about all the young person liberal jibber jabber, you watch Fox. If you look at Fox and their viewership, or any right wing blog, the most astonishing stat is the average age of the person using that medium. It invariably is skewed so much higher than those who use left-leaning sources because it is easier to be stuck in your ways and listen to people who agree with you and your views all the time, than it is to actually challenge your perceptions with people who think differently than you.
As for Rachel, she is an astute member of our society because she actually looks at issues, has her staff help her research them, and then she conveys that research in a clear and concise manner. Kudos for a fantastic segment and an excellent show on a nightly basis.
BGinCHI
@Comrade Mary: As a former resident of Toronto the Good, I’m sorry to hear you elected that fucking fat stupid bastard. I worry about you all (lived there in the early 90s).
I miss Kensington Mkt and Futures Bakery. And many other things. Neighborhood theaters!
OK, I’m tearing up.
Andrew
Most of that was straight from Steve Benen’s weekly column on the lies Romney told that week. Since she just hired him recently, not terribly surprising.
AA+ Bonds
So Cpl. Jeffrey Goldberg, did you know that guy worked in a detention camp for the IDF
Skippy the Wondermule
My ex-wife and I privately called Rachel Super-Dyke, and this clip bloody well shows why. There is no one like her, may the gods bless her every undertaking.
As a bi guy, I feel no shame in calling her that. Feel free to call me whatever names please you :-)
AA+ Bonds
@jgaugust:
At what point did I talk about truth, honesty, or intelligence
I said that those ratings mean the right doesn’t give a shit
You cannot possibly believe that either the Right or TV are about truth, honesty, or intelligence
Except when has an episode where she clearly thinks the magic super-Glock from Die Hard 2: Die Harder is real , then she looks like MSNBC has hired a room full of people who collectively sound like Ronald Reagan
There, now we can talk intelligence
AndyG
I realized I was touching myself inappropriately during that segment.
To be honest, I only realized it when my wife pointed it out.
Don’t judge me.
Comrade Mary
@BGinCHI: Thanks. Kensington Market misses you, too.
xian
better trolls please
Calouste
@AA+ Bonds:
Someone recently was waving around a plastic gun at his coworkers at a place I know. It stressed people out pretty much because when some puts a plastic gun in your side you can’t really tell it’s plastic. If you’re so convinced that the difference is so obvious between real guns and plastic guns, try it out at your own workplace. I’m sure security will laugh all the way about your joke while they are escorting you to the unemployment office.
AA+ Bonds
@Skippy the Wondermule:
LOL
Arclite
You folks must not be from around here. Rachel is a “pundit”. “Pundits” can say whatever they want. CNN is “News.” The “news” must not take a side, because that would be too “liberal”:
Once you learn the “logic” of our society, you’ll fit in nicely.
eemom
@AA+ Bonds:
yeah, but he’s got Andrew Sullivan’s number, big time
I posted that earlier as flame-war kindling and Cole just ignored it. So now I haz a sad. : (
Gretchen
I wish someone would do quick summaries of videos for those of us who can’t get Flash. There’s just a big white blob on my screen where the video should be.
AA+ Bonds
@Calouste:
Um
She was on her show saying that there was a Glock made out of those materials that you can use to get through metal detectors. But that is actually a fake plot device featured in an action movie starring Bruce Willis
AA+ Bonds
@eemom:
I have to say that Jeffrey Goldberg is probably the most even-handed tool of the Israeli government this side of the . . . Atlantic :D
As a rank propagandist, he’s subpar, but we willingly accept his wretched lies in this country because he tells the correct ones for the right people
piratedan
@AA+ Bonds: OMG, she tripped over your gun fetish and now that calls into question every livin thing that she has ever reported as being tainted. Is that it?
What else pray tell that she has reported incorrectly that she hasn’t publicly atoned for?
You find her to be an ineffectual mouthpiece or source of information for folks of the liberal persuasion, then please feel free to offer up someone who meets your high standards?
Because I can feel free to tell you right now, that if all she done is to misidentify a fucking handgun, then I wonder how anyone can ever meet your standards. She’s been to Afghanistan to actually speak to the folks on the ground, She’s gone to the gulf and spoke with the people getting their hands dirty during the cleanup, she’s bearded the talibangelicals in their C-Strat lair, she’s been respectful of her guests and when she makes a mistake, I’ve seen her make an apology, a real one, regretting the inaccuracy because she actually appears to care about being accurate and truthful.
If it means that much to you, send her a note, chances are, you’ll even get a reply thanking you for pointing out what she got wrong. Then maybe, you’ll be able to get over your fucking self.
Joel
@AA+ Bonds: Really? I’ve seen plenty of televisions tuned to Fox News in public places. I’ve also seen plenty of CNN and more than a few on MSNBC. But shit, you’re just trolling anyways. Carry on.
Alison
@AA+ Bonds: I never saw the segment you’re talking about, but in any case, what’s your point? Because she and/or her staff made a silly mistake once (which, knowing her and being a regular watcher, I’m sure they did a correction for as soon as they knew) then she’s totally unreliable and stupid and meaningless on everything else? Because one time maybe she got taken in on something, nothing else she says is worth anything?
I mean, seriously, what’s your fucking point? HAW HAW SHE THOUGHT THIS MOVIE THING WAS REAL ONE TIME. Yeah, and? I’ll take that over the other “news” shows bleating about random stupid villager bullshit and both-sides-do-it wanking and Fox scaremongering. If you demand perfection in order to ever acknowledge something as worthy, then you must be leading a fucking sad life.
David Koch
I reading today how America loves, loves, loves the NFL.
I bet most people don’t realize how it’s a well regulated socialzt enterprise.
Stadiums built by taxpayers. Employees groomed by public high schools and public colleges. Shared revenues among the teams, no matter how small or large. Minimum wages. Pensions. Salary caps to prevent loony billionairers from cornering resources.
The NFL puts the red in the red, white, and blue and it thrives beyond any capitalist’s wildest dream.
In it’s heart, America loves socializm in many and various forms.
amk
@AA+ Bonds: you really got a small p…s problem, dontcha ?
Martin
@cmorenc: And Rachel is really a quite fair anchor. I’ve never seen anyone give a background to a segment, and then consistently ask the guest if she got the background right and give them the microphone to correct it. It’s a very powerful thing.
asiangrrlMN
I rarely watch Rachel any more, but this segment is excellent. It is good to see a liar being called a liar.
P.S. Am I the only one who hated Etch-A-Sketch as a kid? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Tim Ellis
@Comrade Mary: I’m about two months away from moving to Toronto and my fondest wish is for my Canadian citizenship process to be completed in time to vote against that wanker in the Mayor’s office.
Sorry thread, you may now return to the topic at hand.
Jebediah
@asiangrrlMN:
Naw, as a kid I could entertain myself with an Etch-a-Sketch for seconds at a stretch…
PeakVT
That’s the most aggressive use of the l-word I’ve ever seen, and Romney deserves every one. Kudos to Maddow.
@El Cid: Wow, end TBTF direct from a regional Fed bank? In Texas? That’s stranger than the weather we’ve been having.
asiangrrlMN
@Jebediah: ::high-five:: I just got frustrated with all the trailing strings. Plus, I draw for shit.
Comrade Mary
@Tim Ellis: Oh yeah, honey. Get your citizenship and join the fight.
Meanwhile, Etch-a-Sketch is capitalizing on the publicity. And maybe this guy can make a few bucks creating posters for Romney.
Comrade Mary
(OK, that artist has a McCain-Obama sketch from 2008, but an Obama-Lincoln sketch, too. Maybe he isn’t ready to do anything for Romney just yet …)
Comrade Mary
Oh, yeah, an Obot project from the artist here. I predict that this guy will be on the news soon enough, as he doesn’t seem to be shy about publicizing himself.
(As you might guess, I actually really like Etch A Sketch.)
David Koch
Ooooof
Etch-a-Sketch blunder makes front page of NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/images/2012/03/22/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg
RadioOne
This was one of her best segments, in a series of great segments she’s produced over the past few years. Rachel Maddow is one of the best reporters we’ve ever had, and I think she will continue to be very influential in American politics for a long time to come.
Jebediah
@asiangrrlMN:
I would tell myself I could totally make curves or circles and of course fail every time.
kdaug
@Martin:
Yup. Every time.
freelancer
Anyone notice how Sullivan regularly quoted Steve Benen as one of his common voices of respected members of the Left until he moved to Maddowblog?
The references to her that I’ve seen on the Dish have consistently referred to her as “smug”, yet there’s this:
Bill Maher is many things. One thing I can count on him being is smug, even when I agree with him. It’s part of his appeal.
Part of me thinks that, given Sullivan’s predispositions, that his biases are showing, and that pointing out the inconsistencies in this regard is fair, and not based in untruth. The fact that he re-evaluates where he is from time to time is human, and he may come around, but I can’t help but find a gender-based schism here.
That he protests Maddow and no longer listens to Benen because he categorizes her reporting as smug and appears on Real Time regularly says something.
Schlemizel
Because it is soooooo rude. Its the sort of behavior that will gwt her removed from the guest list for all the Kool Kids Club parties. Also, when Dicks like Cheney have a hot tip (like Iraq has WMD or the name of a top WMD spy for the CIA) they won’t call her. She’ll be “scooped” bu Yimmy or Judy
Ripley
@freelancer: Sullivan hates women, egregiously. It’s in his words, not between the lines.
asiangrrlMN
@Jebediah: We’re like twins! I hate that thing! ::shudders at bad childhood memories::
@Ripley: Well, yes. I thought this was a given? Or, if not hate, at least a healthy amount of disdain.
Schlemizel
@freelancer: Yeah, it saya Sully can justify any bullshit he wants to believe. Read his dwrek for a couple of months and that becomes quite obvious.
Once the real damage has been done he occationally writes a trite mea culpa that is basiclly “whocoodaknowd” and the repeats the exact same ‘mistake’
freelancer
@Ripley:
I don’t think that he hates women, but more that he lets his gut feeling rule his political instincts until he’s called out on it with reason. He definitely goes where his bias leads him though.
runt
Has Eric Fehrnstrom announced that he is going to spend more time with his family yet, or is that still to come? I’m guessing he’s been having some fun conversations with his boss in the last 24 hours.
aretino
I’ll bet ten thousand dollars that some of Willard’s best friends are major Etch A Sketch shareholders.
asiangrrlMN
@Schlemizel: This this a million times this. Every. Gotdamn. Time. Why the hell can’t he take what learned from one issue and apply it to the next?!?
Pseudonym
@Ripley: Do you have any links showing this? Just genuinely curious; I get the same vibe, but nothing concrete.
Schlemizel
@asiangrrlMN:
Because there is damn good money in repeating the error. What I don’t understand is why anyone takes him seriously.
Gregory
Fehrnstrom gave away the game in another way, too. If Republicans actually believed a “liberal media” existed, he wouldn’t have so confidently predicted that Romney could reset his positions for the general election.
kay
Rachel Maddow is the best interviewer on TV.
She’s genuinely talented at asking the right questions and eliciting an actual informative dialogue.
Her interviews of Rand and Ron Paul were just perfect, and beautiful, because she’s actually listening to their responses before she poses the next question, which is very difficult to do.
She’s asking questions, not directing a narrative, and when you listen, you recognize what you’ve been missing in TV interviews.
I’m so glad she’s successful.
Elizabelle
@Comrade Mary: you wrote “I’ve seen a few anecdotes from people who reported that they know other people who think that Romney’s just being smart about being the nominee and that he’ll be a nice, safe moderate as president.”
From NYTimes story on the gaffe (if it was):
Who do these moderate voters expect to see manning the important agencies and cabinet positions in a GOP administration?
Maybe you’d get Etch a Sketch as president, but you’re going to get Santorum-level crazies and Bain-type vulture capitalists running the executive branch again.
the fugitive uterus
i watched her blossom, i did! that’s my girl!
the fugitive uterus
@runt:
He likes to fire people! That was my very first thought. Unwittingly, while screwing himself, he created the perfect metaphor for Mitt.
asiangrrlMN
@Schlemizel: Duh. You’re right. He doesn’t suffer any repercussions for his repeated idiocies, so why would he stop? As to why people take him serious – well, he’s a Very Serious Thinker, or so I’m told.
kay
@Comrade Mary:
It was a good company, until the last generation of (family) owners. They moved toy production to China and now the only thing they make in the US are stamped metal products, like trays with NASCAR images on them.
The (remaining) workers say it went like this: craftsman founded the place (1st generation, no college), engineers built the company (2nd generation went to college) and MBA’s ruined it (3rd generation, grad school).
Elizabelle
@kay:
That was so memorable from Maddow show clip. Terrible arc for a familiar product.
And now Bain Capital owns some of the company? Jeez.
kay
@Elizabelle:
Do they? I remember they “went public” and then were (I think, in the 90’s?) delisted for a period, which is apparently very, very bad. I don’t know anything about the stock market. I have a 401k, is the extent of my stock savvy.
The Kilgallons (owners) are big Republicans, in a sort of country club way. I read the PR press release where they say Etch a Sketch has “left and right” buttons, so they’re neutral, but they’re one of the few companies that actually put out GOP signs prior to elections and it’s a PLANT, a manufacturing facility, so that’s not, ya know, strictly true :)
Driving by, they don’t appear “neutral”.
Bruce S
“she’s not just brilliant-smart (she was a Rhodes scholar), but she always comes to discussions deeply researched in indisputable objective facts to back up her viewpoints, and has wicked-sharp rhetorical skills to frame them with.”
She’s very good for cable news (not intended as damning with faint praise) but she also suffers from a bit of self-satisfaction and did a crappy job when she had climate-change denier Sen. Inhofe on her show recently. I don’t think she was prepared for him to be so slick and dishonest. She also went off on a tangent about something wildly inaccurate he wrote about her in his book – but which had nothing to do with the subject – which made it seem like she was more interested in making herself the issue rather than nailing this douchebag on climate change. It raised questions about his credibility but it was utterly oblique. I felt certain that Chris Hayes would have done a much better job of dealing straight ahead with Inhofe’s BS. I have to admit, listening to that smiling shit I realized why people who I find totally abhorrent can get elected in certain states. (Hell, even Connecticut. Oh, yeah – and New York, and…uh…California.) There’s an art to being a shameless douche who projects absolute certainty and confidence in his own cynical crap.
Omnes Omnibus
@Bruce S: Do an hour long TV show five nights a week for a few years and see if you have a few segments that fall flat or where you make mistakes. Day in, day out, episode after episode, she is consistently good.
Elizabelle
@kay:
My bad. Bain connection is that Bain Capital owns Toys R Us, a major Etch a Sketch buyer.
Rachel says Ohio Art Company said they felt bad about moving production overseas, but “their hand was forced by price pressure from their major buyers.” Such as Toys R Us. (about 2:00 in video)
Found the NYTimes article Rachel referenced on Etch A Sketch’s move to China.
Here’s link, Ruse in Toyland.
And where have we heard this before?
Wage rates for union US workers, in 2000: $9.00/hour, plus benefits (the soaring healthcare costs)
wage rate for Chinese workers, 2003: 24 cents per hour, and Chinese minimum wage was 33 cents/hour
kay
@Bruce S:
I think it’s two different approaches, the “smackdown” where the interview is attacking credibility, and an interview that actually forces the subject to extend his or her comments, ie: new information.
Maddow does the second very, very well, and it’s difficult to do, because she’s thinking on her feet. The second and third questions are a response to what the person said.
To do that, one has to be a good listener, not a good “talker”.
Bruce S
Omnes Omnibus – Did you read the part where I said she’s very good? But when a post about her devolves into “lesbian fantasies” or comments suggesting that she “always” is “brilliant” I start to wonder if folks have critical faculties when they watch MSNBC evening prime time. Frankly, Lawrence often outshines her on politics, Ed Schultz – who gets shit on by upscale liberals – can connect to people that might not find Rachel as endearing as some, and Chris Hayes show is much better than Rachel’s if you don’t want to be spoon-fed mostly news and commentary you’ve more-often-than-not already seen if you scan the best of the internet throughout the day. I scan through Rachel, Ed and Lawrence and watch about an hour total of the three. I never scan through Chris Hayes show and actually look forward to it. It’s not full of the same stuff that’s on everybody else’s show and it’s not personality driven.
debbie
@ jharp:
I had one of those keychains. The quality was really pathetic. Some sort of softish, waffle-textured screen that didn’t even last one second.
Bruce S
kay – I was disappointed in the Inhofe segment because she promoted it as a huge “get” and it was. When it went off into his not referencing her honestly in his book, I felt a huge opportunity was lost. He’s the Senate’s #1 Climate Change Denier. That’s what’s important about the guy. She raised my expectations and then fell pretty flat. That’s it. In fact, she spent more time attacking Inhofe on credibility than dealing well with his BS on her show. I like Rachel Maddow. She generally does a superb job for a cable news talker, but she’s not without obvious flaws that surface time and again. If it’s fair game to dump shit on Ed Schultz, which happens here all the time, one can certainly raise some questions about St. Rachel.
kay
@Bruce S:
Oh, I agree. That is bad. I resent when they make it about themselves.
Nemesis
@Bruce S:
I guess we werent watching the same interview. I recall turning on the tube right when I awoke and watched Inhofe stutter, stammer and repeatedly employ standard right wing answer-advoidance tactics. RaMad asked a question about something Inhofe wrote in his book about Rachel herself. Again, Inhofe went off on a tangent talking about off the wall stuff. Is it RaMads jobs to “grill” Inhofe or should she ask reasonable questions, multiple times if needed, and allow Inhofe to appear to be the douche he is.
I remember yelling at the tv that morning. Inhofe was disgusting. I feel RaMad was ready to have a tough session with Inhofe. He just proved he’s a tool.
Omnes Omnibus
@ Bruce S: Yeah, I saw that you said that she was very good. I just find it interesting that, in the context of a discussion of how good the instant segment is, people want to point out the occassional misfires. In my view, she is generally good, this segment was great, and the misfires are occasional. That works for me. The fact that there are other hosts who have their own appeal is cool, but neither here nor there.
chopper
@Alison:
but you don’t realize, she was wrong that one time. you can’t listen to anything someone says when they were wrong that one time.
Bob
Rachel always takes too long to get to the point. She quite clearly likes to hear herself talk. Doesn’t she have any editors/writers to help sharpen the presentations? OK, Etch-a-sketch and Mitt, we get it, it’s funny and it’s dead on, and the intro background was cute, but then the story goes on and on. I had to give up, as I do almost every night.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us? (formerly MarkJ)
This was great but she omitted the most eggregious lie of all – when he lied about his own first name in one of the primary debates.
catclub
@Gretchen: That’s Tunch.
LanceThruster
But, but, but…he’s Mormon. He’s not allowed to lie. The LDS church woud never stand for such a blight on their white and delightsome faith.
Riilism
I enjoy Rachel Maddow and yet sometimes I feel that she misses opportunities during interviews. I enjoy Chris Hayes and yet sometimes he talks over his guests and seems to want to prove he’s the smartest one at the table. I enjoy Lawrence O’Donnell and yet I often find his style to be aggravating and overly smug. I enjoy Ed Schultz and yet I often find the bombast overwhelms the topic of discussion.
There, I feel much better now.
Wait, uuhmm, what were we talking about again? Oh well, never mind…..
Bruce S
107 – Nemesis: my problem with the interview was that it totally veered off of the subject and allowed Inhofe to yammer on about stuff that had nothing to do with climate change. If you were disposed to understand what a dope Inhofe was, he looked like a dope. But he wasn’t pushed hard on the main topic and the segment lacked any clarity or focus. Ihofe got challenged on his book mostly for stuff he wrote about Rachel Maddow. Not my primary concern with the Senate’s #1 Climate Change Denier.
nastybrutishntall
The weather must be nice today. So many people crouched on benches, tossing bags and bags of stale bits at the troll.
It’s just pretending to eat them, btw. Tossing pie at its head is a lot more relaxing.
John M. Burt
@jharp: Pretty sure that it was the keychain Etch-a-Sketch that the artist was working on Rachel Maddow. Makes it all the more impressive.
[Update: Looked at it again, clearly bigger than keychain size, but still pretty teensy.]
Older
I see Short-Attention-Span Man has checked in (#110).
James Hulsey
@AA+ Bonds:
The question you have yet to answer is, when did she make that claim about the plastic Glock?
And the followup question is, did she ever issue a correction?
I have seen plenty of times where she has issued corrections about statements she had made in previous shows.
Without answering these questions, your statements are no more than rumor-mongering. Which is what right-wingers do very well.
James Hulsey
@Riilism:
At my house, we watch Ed and Rachel for different reasons.
Ed is the cheerleader, the one who keeps us energized to keep up the fight.
Rachel is the go-to-person for analysis and fact-based discussion of the issues.
Two very different purposes, but both necessary.
Hawes
I just want to reflect on the fact that Mitt Romney lies so much it upsets other politicians.
When you’ve reached a level of calumny that offends Newt Gingrich… well, that’s just amazing.
Michael P
Watched this at the gym last night. So, so good…like Johnny Walker Blue. Smooth, bold and delicious.
MattR
@AA+ Bonds:
Actually, she said that in the 1980’s Glock claimed to have the manufacturing know-how to create an all plastic gun. She asked if such a thing was possible, should it be made illegal. She then pointed out that our country decided it should be illegal in 1988 but that Dick Cheney was one of 4 Congressmen to vote against it.
The show was January 11, 2011 and here is a non-MSNBC generated transcript
Tone in DC
@MattR:
Matt, thanks for the link.
Bruce S
Riilism – “Wait, uuhmm, what were we talking about again?”
Something about lesbian fantasies…
catclub
@Hawes: I am hoping this (hatred that Mitt engenders in his GOP competitors) results in bitter sniping from Newt and Santorum all the way to November.
Triassic Sands
Well, Newt Gingrich seemed to manage without breaking a sweat.
It isn’t “other people” who are the problem — it’s main stream media figures who are the problem. It’s cable news and the Times and Post. Perhaps Romney really is “bending the curve” as Maddow said. Maybe the MSM will see in Romney a painless vehicle to seriously introduce “liar” into their vocabularies.
But I doubt it.
Bob Munck
In 1967 we hooked an Etch A Sketch to an IBM System/360 computer, a $3 million machine the size of a building to a $1.95 output device. I wrote a machine-code program to draw a perfect 100-turn spiral. It was beautiful.