Been a while since we had one. I like this perspective on the PPACA hearings at Josh Marshall’s site and suggest that people read it before finalizing your emigration plans.
In other news, enjoy a pic that I took the other day. Can you guess what it is? No fair if you click through.
Chat about whatever.
catclub
bean sprouts?
PiledhighDeep
those are the male gametophyte forms of a moss plant
edit: close, but doh!
Violet
A bunch of sprouts intensely watching something. March Madness? A concert? Max frolicking? Whatever it is, they’re very engaged.
pragmatism
the green shoots of the economy?
General Stuck (on self glorifiication)
Purdy
Napoleon
Cha, Cha, Cha, Chia – would be my guess.
The Dangerman
The forces behind the mandate are the insurance companies; the mandate, and the ACA, will stay. If the mandate goes down, the ACA goes down, and we will be going to single payer (ok, it may take a decade or 2 or 3, but the die will be cast; it will be single payer eventually).
Ash Can
A chia pet?
ETA: Damn, Napoleon beat me to it.
Mark H
alfalfa sprouts
Elisabeth
Moss on a bonsai (I cheated)
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@The Dangerman: Both of your statements are wrong. As has been pointed out, a lot of liberals – Clinton, Krugman – were in support of the mandate. Also, there’s a party that feels that the 1890s were an awesome time.
Napoleon
@Ash Can:
Well I clicked through after my guess and we are both wrong. It does really look like that stuff that grows on a chia pet though.
LGRooney
Don’t finalize those plans? You say that as if it’s not been completed. I just need to pull the trigger.
Ben Cisco
A picture worth a thousand words (h/t @YSouthSide): http://myreadyroom.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/justice.jpg
lamh35
OMG! How sad is it that is took me this long to figure out that I could hook up my laptop to my HDTV Plasma screen with an HDMI cord d use the flatt screen as a “monitor” for my laptop. Answer…too damn long! I may nver use my laptop moitor again…lol. Oh an I just so happened to have a wireless mouse and keyboard for one of my other old laptop, so my laptop is on the ther side of the living rom and I can use the mouse and keyboard to manuaever around….
LIGHTBULB!!!!
I’m considered the more knowledgeable of my friends and family when it comes to electronics, computers etc, but I was way too slow on the uptake on this one…lol!
RossInDetroit
I like moss. I planted a bed of Irish moss 4 years ago but it was overrun by English ivy and I gave up on it. That is not a metaphor.
The Dangerman
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
Didn’t mean to imply they weren’t; of course they are, given the politics of single payer.
But, the bottom line, if the USSC strikes only the mandate, private insurers leave the market almost immediately (as their bottom lines go up in smoke), and if they strike down the whole enchilada, single payer is the only out.
wrb
purty
Amir Khalid
I have been staring at this photo very very very hard, and I still cannot find the dog. I may need new glasses.
Mike S
Moss sporophytes (These are diploid and undergo meiosis to produce haploid spores)
AnnaN
They look like alfalfa sprouts.
Satanicpanic
I have to take a break from trolling yahoo news articles about Trayvon Martin, the comments are just too damn depressing.
schrodinger's cat
If it is not catnip, Tunch is not interested.
4tehlulz
@Satanicpanic: On Yahoo, regardless of the story subject, it usually devolves into racism.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
Gosh, if it weren’t for the banner ad running at the top of the page, I never would have realized that the 9 SCOTUS justices were all such healthy looking young ladies.
What??
They aren’t justices? Are you sure?
Not even one of them? Not even on one of the lower courts?
Then why do they want to “chat” with me? I thought we were here to talk about the PPACA?
PurpleGirl
@Satanicpanic: I’ve found almost any thread on Yahoo News gets depressing very quickly. I’ve largely stopped reading comments there.
Culture of Truth
the true source of all pollution
Violet
@PurpleGirl:
The last time I read comments on a Yahoo thread was probably a decade ago. The comments sections of websites like that have always been sewers.
kindness
@PurpleGirl: Yea the comments at Yahoo are as sucky as the CNN comments, the WaPo comments and just about any MSM publication. Those comments creep me out more than the articles.
Satanicpanic
@PurpleGirl: I like to comment there just so the crazies don’t totally take over. But sometimes it’s just a lost cause. Especially when it comes to race. There are some messed up people in this world.
WereBear
@lamh35: Well, you are the tech thinker in your crowd; they hadn’t thought of it at all.
Finished my antibiotics (2 courses) a few days ago, and feel better, but tired. So I’m lying on the couch, typing past a cat butt on my Chromebook.
They love it; I get to type and they get to lie on my chest.
WereBear
In separate news, we don’t get spaces between the paragraphs in our comments anymore?
Not that I can claim we’ve been good, mind you.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Satanicpanic: I don’t know if you read anything at DK, but there was a diary yesterday about all of these people freaking out – in the worst way – on Facebook over two of the characters being played by black people. What was really shocking is that the author described the characters as having dark skin.
Satanicpanic
At this point the big news companies should shut down their comment sections, there really is no point to them. I guess they create jobs for paid trolls.
kdaug
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ: Hey… I don’t get lovely ladies. I get stupid coffee ads.
What do I have to do to get the lovely ladies?
Discuss.
Violet
@WereBear:
You have to use the old blockquote paragraph spacing technique. Put two underlines between the paragraphs to create the space. I hope it’s just a workaround while they sort it out.
lamh35
Ok, so I talked to the HHS Human Resources department today about my application to CDC and it looks like I did not get the job I applied for. From the statement I got from the HR Specialist, I wasn’t considered for the position. They rank you based solely on your answers to the online questionnaire in comparison to the resume you post on USAJOBS.gov. Based on an algorithm used for Federal job applicants to weaning out qualified applicants for positions, they rank you on a scale of 100%. For the job I applied for, my ranking was 89%. The HR Specialist said that I was considered a “well-qualified” applicant, but based on my score, I wasn’t the “best-qualified” applicant (i.e. >95%) for the position.
So that’s that then. I think I’m gonna spend the rest of the summer saving some money and deciding what my next journey will be.
thanks everyone who provided me some good vibes.
Lyrebird
Well I really like the moss picture, moss is lovely!
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Since this is an open thread I wanna say that for anyone else who wishes they coulda gone to a gathering for Trayvon Martin, there’s a website here at the law firm’s website which does take donations.
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PS: Thanks for the tips on spacing. ETA: You need two separate ones for whitespace, is it?
shortstop
I really need a nap and I don’t have time to take one.
John Weiss
You’ve made a nice photo of “blooming” moss. Here in far south west Oregon, we’ve quite a lot of moss…
Satanicpanic
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): I read the GOS on occasion, but I rarely comment there anymore because the commenters there drive me crazy.
Culture of Truth
@WereBear: Do you like the Chomebook?
WereBear
@Violet: Thanks!
But, you know…
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I tried that yesterday.
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And it didn’t work.
WereBear
@WereBear: Ohhh!
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It does now!
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Until it changes, that is.
Mark S.
I thought everyone agreed yesterday that it wasn’t a tax. If it is a tax, doesn’t that anti-Injunction Act kick in?
David Margolies
To add to Mike 19, the moss leaves look like they have whitish tips, and a Bryum shaped sporophyte, so Bryum argentum? (It is common and widespread.)
Brachiator
@The Dangerman:
I don’t know that single payer is the only or even best outcome if there were some wildly overreaching Supreme Court decision that invalidated the Health Care Act.
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This thing could go all kinds of ways. Ultimately, you gotta wait for a decision to see what happens next.
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ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@kdaug:
Spend a lot of time discussing the merits of 5-4 vs. 6-3 splits, apparently.
gene108
@The Dangerman:
I don’t know. I think some folks maybe planning to turn the uninsured into soylent green or other acceptable alternative, as a solution to achieving universal health care.
jeffreyw
@lamh35: Works great!
David Koch
For the people like Michael Moore who said there was no difference btwn Bush and Gore, even regarding Supreme Court appointments, what do you have to say now?
Amir Khalid
@WereBear:
Ya no the two-underscores-between-paragraphs trick thatcha gotta do with block quotes? Well, now ya gotta use it in yer comments too.
wrb
@The Dangerman:
Not a chance.
They strike down the whole enchilada health care for the poor and those with pre-existing conditions is dead, at least for a decade or two, barring some unlikely progressive sweep of both houses and the presidency .
beltane
There is a new poll out which shows that the Republican plan to eliminate Medicare is wildly unpopular with the public. Would anyone like to take a guess at the percentage of people in favor of this plan?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/27/1078250/-Republican-Medicare-plan-tanks-in-new-poll-
Egg Berry
@David Koch:
Allow me to call forth the Spirit of True Progressives Present: “Obama is worse than Bush! He sold us out!”
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@beltane:
It rhymes with plenty Heaven?
Maude
Mittens thinks we’re still in the Cold War.
He riled Russia today. He oughta get McCain for Veep.
They could rile almost everyone within a week.
252man
@4tehlulz: Yahoo: A name AND a description.
pseudonymous in nc
@The Dangerman:
Churchill’s maxim about how Americans always do the right thing after exhausting all other possibilities comes to mind. There are a lot of other possibilities left to exhaust, and with so many state governments as stenographers to ALEC, they’re not pleasant ones to consider.
David Koch
Dahlia Lithwick did a interview with Charles Fried, who is a conservative legal scholar at Harvard and who served as Regan’s solicitor general./// He said, of course the mandate is legal, even though he didn’t like it. He had discussions with his fellow conservative scholars around the country and they all agreed, noting how the very conservative Laurence Silberman had upheld the mandate in the DC circuit./// But then he ended the interview, sharply, by saying only a political hack would overturn the mandate. Sadly that is what has happened to the supreme court.
Culture of Truth
@Maude: Appropriate, since he’s building a Bond villain’s lair in La Jolla, complete with car elevator.
nellcote
sprouting cilantro.
The Dangerman
@wrb:
Yes, it will be dark days for a decade or a generation, but a solution that would be anathema to private insurance will be the eventual result.
Violet
@WereBear:
It’s been working for me since someone here told me about it. I’ve always used it in blockquotes, but it’s annoying to have to use it to space every paragraph. Really clunky. I hope it’s going to be fixed.
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If the whole health care law gets overturned and a bunch of young adults get kicked off their parents health care, there’s going to be a lot of angry kids and adults.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@The Dangerman:
Nach Aetna, uns.
Nutella
Latest news: Hutaree militia people acquitted of almost all charges.
WereBear
@Culture of Truth: I love it madly.
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You get interrupted, so you close the lid; when you come back, you go right back to where you where in 2 seconds. Essentially, you never shut it off, because I’ve had the battery last over four hours today; and it still had 22% left when I plugged it in just now. With Pandora radio running the whole time.
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Light as a Mac Air; at 1/4 the price.
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Now, my whole office thought it was neat… and went back to their Nooks and Kindles and iPads. But I’m a writer… and they’re not. I gotta have a keyboard.
Rome Again
Sure looks like bean sprouts to me (no, I didn’t click through).
Yesterday I went through the criminal files of George Zimmerman. I was unable to make a graphic that included all of the information, but, I noticed that there were fees on the two cases (one a state felony (two counts) violent battery upon a law enforcement officer case which was plea bargained down to a misdemeanor non-violent case) and both cases had fees associated with them which went unpaid until just this month (?!).
I’ve made a graphic showing this (the original felony case is in an inset box placed on the county non-violent misdemeanor case). About $300.00 sat on the books for over five years and Zimmerman decided it just wasn’t important to pay them off until he got in trouble again. Also, while I didn’t note all of the occurrences on the graphic itself, there are at least two failure to appears from Zimmerman and one from his counsel on the county misdemeanor case:
http://haughty-culture.blogspot.com/2012/03/trying-to-show-visual-of-non-payments.html
Martin
That’s Santorum’s speculum garden! Grow little speculum halves, grow! He has a job for each and every one of you!
Culture of Truth
@WereBear: Thanks. It sounds cool, but then again, I can see just using an ipad.
WereBear
Oh, and whoever you were who linked to the Story of Banana the Cat: thanks so much. Made an awesome cat post:
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Never too late
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Yeah, made me cry. (Ya’ll been warned.) Whatcha gonna do?
trollhattan
@David Koch:
David Stockman now allows as to how Reaganomics and Bushonomics are nonsense (as well as Obama’s policies) but nobody listens to him, either. Out of the village he goes!
Brachiator
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
This was about the appalling racism, largely from younger people, concerning The Hunger Games, right?
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One thing that is truly depressing is the outright use of racial epithets.
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The other is the degree to which these people, who read the book and transformed black characters into white people in their imaginations, were shocked that their racial editing was not confirmed by the film makers.
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Worst of all is the degree to which these people felt that their enjoyment of the movie was ruined by the inclusion of black characters into their whites only universe.
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And remember now, some Balloon Juicers insist that the Great Demographic Shift will bring tolerance and unicorns.
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The hopeful sign is the degree to which sane fans of the book shut down the racists (there is yet hope for the Great Demographic Shift, if not a sure thing). The best comment from one person riffs on the movie itself in putting the racists in their place:
Ugh, these people. May the odds be never in their favor.
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Martin
@Brachiator:
Well, it is. But it doesn’t work as you describe. In the great tradition of ‘all politics is local’ these shifts really take root at the local level. Yeah, Alabama and South Carolina may be the last to join the rest of us, but that doesn’t mean that massive progress isn’t being made in large parts of the country.
And the deletion of those Twitter accounts suggests that it’s getting harder and harder for those local traditions to hold on when exposed to a broader community.
WereBear
@Culture of Truth: So can I. I also have an iPod touch… and I love it, too.
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The way I see it; I used to buy used Mac laptops to fit my needs for low cost portability. Now, the Chromebook fits that niche; at lighter weight and lower cost.
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And if I may vent for a moment; about half the reviews I read complained that it was just a browser in a laptop case. Duh! What part of Does What It Says On The Tin do these people not get?
Brachiator
@Martin:
Why do you assume that these comments came from Alabama and South Carolina and similar places?
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As an aside, equally obnoxious is some of the sexist attacks on the movie, by uncomfortable little male shits all over the country who deride the film for having a female action hero. These same turds are peeing in their pants in anticipation over The Avengers (cool shit), the umpteenth reboot of Spider Man (more cool shit), even the Three Stooges (stupid cool shit), and hope in vain that the upcoming Wrath of the Titans (ancient cool shit) will displace The Hunger Games (cootie girl shit) from its top spot in the box office.
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And as some of the related articles suggest, Hollywood is often all too happy to play to racist expectations to satisfy audiences and maximize revenue.
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Brachiator
@Martin:
Why do you assume that these comments came from Alabama and South Carolina and similar places?
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As an aside, equally obnoxious is some of the sexist attacks on the movie, by uncomfortable little male shits all over the country who deride the film for having a female action hero. These same turds are peeing in their pants in anticipation over The Avengers (cool shit), the umpteenth reboot of Spider Man (more cool shit), even the Three Stooges (stupid cool shit), and hope in vain that the upcoming Wrath of the Titans (ancient cool shit) will displace The Hunger Games (cootie girl shit) from its top spot in the box office.
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And as some of the related articles suggest, Hollywood is often all too happy to play to racist expectations to satisfy audiences and maximize revenue.
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Brachiator
ETA Have no idea where the double post came from and could not successfully edit it.
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Baud
@WereBear: WereBear, are you having trouble viewing BJ on your ipod touch? I get a mobile version that doesn’t have comments.
WereBear
@Baud: Just checked; yes, that’s what I get… and it isn’t even up to date!
Baud
@WereBear: Thanks! I wanted to make sure it just wasn’t me. I guess I’ll get a lot more done at work until that’s fixed.
Martin
@Brachiator:
I didn’t. I merely was noting that broadly speaking on issues of race, the culture in South Carolina and Alabama are likely going to be the last to come around at the local level. I don’t think that’s at all controversial given the strong traditions of racism there as compared to the rest of the country. Individually, you’re going to get comments like that everywhere, but the ability for those individuals to embrace that attitude, find others to reinforce that attitude, and so on is going to be different depending on where they live. And if there’s nobody nearby to feed it, it’s going to eventually die out.
Rome Again
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
@Brachiator:
I must be hanging out with a good crowd, I didn’t see any of that. Whew!
Death Panel Truck
NBC’s Pete Williams (who used to work for Dick Cheney) has already declared the ACA unconstitutional based on today’s oral arguments.
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Well, okay then. It’s settled. Who am I to argue with the librul media?
JR in WV
It’s moss putting forth spores. Without looking I know I’m not even close to first with the correct answer.
JR in WV
@beltane: Twenty-seven per cent?
someofparts
I just don’t understand the remark about finalizing emigration plans in this context.
cintibud
@Brachiator: Thanks for the spoiler – not all of us go opening weekend.
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