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You are here: Home / Even the liberal New York Times

Even the liberal New York Times

by DougJ|  April 5, 20126:55 pm| 72 Comments

This post is in: Our Failed Media Experiment, We Are All Mayans Now

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Dear Bieber (h/t reader DE). I made it halfway through and I need a drink…and I’ve had a already had three. (Party/reception at work.)

The Obama administration stipulated the incontestable to a disgruntled federal court on Thursday, formally declaring that “the power of the courts to review the constitutionality of legislation is beyond dispute.”

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., bowing to an unusual demand of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, in New Orleans, made official the backpedaling of the past few days over remarks by President Obama about the Supreme Court’s coming ruling on the constitutionality of his health care overhaul. Mr. Obama said on Monday that it “would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step” for the court to overturn the law.

Ever since, the White House has been struggling to explain what the president meant.

Obama engages in legitimate criticism of the most partisan SCOTUS in American history. Winger judge gets his panties in a wad over it. That just shows that Obama went over the line of civilitude and seriousness.

Shoot me.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    April 5, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    I saw that and knew it was going to make the front page here.

  2. 2.

    Auldblackjack

    April 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    Winger judge gets his panties in a wad over it. That just shows that Obama went over the line of civilitude and seriousness.

    The Ref’s DO NOT call travelling on the Globetrotters when it’s the 4th quarter, and it’s ALWAYS the 4th quarter.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 5, 2012 at 7:01 pm

    bowing

    ??

    backpedaling

    ??

    struggling to explain

    ??

    Just … FUCK.

  4. 4.

    Montysano

    April 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    I’ve read of Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, et al, firing the same sort of shot across the bow of SCOTUS. It’s a completely unremarkable event, except when done by the Near Sheriff. Then, of course, it’s thuggery of the highest order.

  5. 5.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik

    April 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    It’s how GOP projection continues to be so stupidly and wildly successful: the media, by necessity, always has to believe the worst of any Democrat and the best of any Republican.

  6. 6.

    Tonal Crow

    April 5, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    Our “liberal” media at work. Bobo’s in the newsroom, you betcha.

  7. 7.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 5, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    I need a drink…and I’ve had a already had three.

    Three what?

    Time for surrogates to step up to point out: 1) The Court represents one of three branches of government, not a magical temple where Hamilton and Madison talk to them through a magic hat; 2) Scalia was aggressively and cheerfully ignorant of the subject under discussion.

  8. 8.

    Brachiator

    April 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    @Doug:

    That just shows that Obama went over the line of civilitude and seriousness.

    Shorter: he got uppity.

  9. 9.

    danimal

    April 5, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    BREAKING: Obama Uses GOP Talking Points to Describe Supreme Court: Conservatives realize their talking points have made them gigantic pricks for the past two decades; blame Obama for incivility.

  10. 10.

    General Stuck

    April 5, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    It all means exactly nothing, other than just vapors driven punditry by the Village Idiots. The facts of the matter still involve the simple proposition of whether the current SC will cancel 80 years of precedent to eviscerate a run of the mill commerce clause case, to change the American legal landscape in a tectonic way, and in the process, deny 35 million people life saving health care. Nothing Obama says relieves the wingnut justices of this weighty decision, to put it mildly. I still don’t think Kennedy has the stones for that big a roll of the political dice, that the wingnut world is waiting for with bated breath, to save them with a massive turn back of the clock and a big rebuke of Obama and his signature issue. But we shall see.

  11. 11.

    R Johnston

    April 5, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Lee Atwater was wrong. You can still say “nigger, nigger, nigger,” even in the pages of the New York Times.

  12. 12.

    Amir Khalid

    April 5, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    This is not all that hard to explain. Good journamalism consists of presenting the story in as dramatic and colorful a fashion as possible, so that the New York Times’ readers can be informed, educated and entertained. (That last one very important, you know.) As the legendary journalist Lois Lane once explained to a rookie at her newspaper: “A good reporter doesn’t get great stories. A good reporter makes the story great.”

  13. 13.

    J. Michael Neal

    April 5, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    OT: Burnsie’s team just went down to Ferris State.

  14. 14.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    April 5, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    1) The Court represents one of three branches of government, not a magical temple where Hamilton and Madison talk to them through a magic hat;

     
    If we have to have a magic hat running SCOTUS, could it please stop sorting so many of the justices into Slytherin House?

  15. 15.

    Amir Khalid

    April 5, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Also too, none of you guys were even slightly surprised by this kind of coverage, were you?

  16. 16.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik

    April 5, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    @R Johnston:

    And elsewhere. Just ask Trayvon Martin……. (sigh).

  17. 17.

    TuiMel

    April 5, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    @Baud:

    I saw that and knew it was going to make the front page here.

    I am surprised it took this long…

    I listened to Judge Smith making his request. I’ve had much to feel depressed about lately; this was like a cherry on my WTF Sundae.

  18. 18.

    Arm The Homeless

    April 5, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I think the Village is trying desperately to get Obama into the horse-race since it’s becoming evident that the Klown Kar is becoming too pungent to watch very closely.

    I honestly think that many of the punditubbies fear that they won’t have enough time to trash Obama before the GOP convention.

    When the ACA is upheld, the story immediately pivots to the emerging motivation within the conservative ranks, and whether or not this means certain doom for Obama, or double-certain doom.

  19. 19.

    eemom

    April 5, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Actually Obama didn’t criticize shit, legitimately or otherwise. Au contraire, he said he was confident that the Court would NOT fuck this up by engaging in judicial activism and overturning the will of the democratically elected majority.

    Anyway mon General is right:

    It all means exactly nothing, other than just vapors driven punditry by the Village Idiots.

    ALL of this is meaningless theatrics, including and especially the antics of that fucktard 5th Circuit judge.

  20. 20.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik

    April 5, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    @TuiMel:

    I have to admit, between Hay Fever, the Trayvon Martin story turning into a mainstreamed outlit to declare all blacks Stupid Inherently Criminal Reverse Racist Thugs with a massive dose of victim blame to boot, and the Supreme Court Circus egged on by the Village Vapors, showing just how easily GOP projection becomes conventional wisdom….this week has been flat out shit.

    I’d be tearing my hair out if I didn’t get it buzzed short enough to have zero grip on it.

  21. 21.

    Joseph Nobles

    April 5, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Backpedaling = Explaining why what you said is correct while black.

    Had an acquaintance on Facebook ranting about how Obama said the SCOTUS “didn’t have the right” to overturn laws. I posted the link to the original press conference transcript on Whitehouse.gov and told him to point out where Obama said “didn’t have the right” or anything like it. His answer? “He implied it strongly.”

    Wingnuts, pay attention: THAT is backpedaling.

  22. 22.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    April 5, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    BANG!

  23. 23.

    David Koch

    April 5, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Liburel media bias strikes again.

  24. 24.

    jlow

    April 5, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik: or even Rue. (If fictional characters count).

  25. 25.

    RD

    April 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @Auldblackjack:

    Not unlike the relationship between Cindy Crosby and NHL referees.

  26. 26.

    dedc79

    April 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    For the record, the original article as posted on the Times website was way worse. A friend pointed it out to me and then about thirty minutes later it was clear they were in the process of editing it (and the title). Trying to see if I find a shot of the original.

    It refers to Obama/Holder as “bowing” to the court and being “obedient”. And that’s not the half of it. Seriously it made it sound like Obama was some angry servant getting reprimanded by his boss.

  27. 27.

    David Koch

    April 5, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    This is the same liburel media who still insists Obama made a mistake in requiring religious employers to cover contraception.

    This is the same liburel media who tried to turn the Bin Laden raid into a scandal because John Brennan gave some incorrect details.

  28. 28.

    Paul W.

    April 5, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Ignore this stuff, every other normal American already is.

    Wanking by wankers is nothing new.

  29. 29.

    West of the Cascades

    April 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    What assholes at the NYT — the letter was a blow-off to Judge Smith. Besides a straightforward answer to his question (“yes – see Marbury v. Madison), Holder’s letter spent two pages focused on arguing for the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act (cleverly without explicitly saying it was discussing the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act), and asserting (correctly) the principle that despite judicial review Courts should be deferential in their review of Congressional enactments.

    Judge Panties-in-Knot had also ordered Holder to submit a letter of no less than 3 pages and address the President’s comments “with specificity.” Holder’s letter is 2 and a half pages and refers to the President’s comments only in the last sentence, saying

    “The President’s remarks were fully consistent with the principles described herein.”

    Basically, Eric Holder told Judge Smith to go fuck himself in a polite legal and fairly brilliant way. And the fucking New York Times ought to get someone who is actually a lawyer to write articles about legal issues.

    Assholes.

  30. 30.

    Keith G

    April 5, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    A tempest in a bathtub. It will be hardly remembered in 5 days. Why waste time on blathering that does not add to our overall needs?

  31. 31.

    Amir Khalid

    April 5, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    @Arm The Homeless:
    Given the vast difference between Obama and the remaining Republican candidate(s, if you’re being generous) it looks like there’s not going to be a real race for president on the merits. Obama’s got game, as president and as candidate, got it all. Mitt is a transparent phony who can’t keep his foot out of his mouth, Mr Frothy’s creepy wowsering appeals only to other creepy wowsers, Noot’s jig is up, and Ron Paul was never in it.

    If the NYT doesn’t pretend the race to the White House is decently close, an army of Lois Lanes couldn’t make a great story out of the coverage. No story means no readers, no readers means no advertisers. No advertisers means no New York Times. And then where will I get my regular fix of KThug and Gail Collins?

  32. 32.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    April 5, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    I think you need to remember your last post and fight. Write them, bitch and throw down rather than running for your drink.

  33. 33.

    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire

    April 5, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    C’mon Judge Smith. Charge that bastard Holder with contempt for daring to make his book report a half page shorter than you demanded. Pin that uppity negro down and make him pay for disrespecting you. Don’t worry, the whole nation is behind you. I read it in the WSJ editorial pages.

    As a great freedom fighter once said: “They always get away.” Don’t let this slippery criminal get away! As another great man once said: “Respect mah athoritah!”

  34. 34.

    burnspbesq

    April 5, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    @J. Michael Neal:

    We played well enough to win for 55 minutes. Unfortunately, the game isn’t 55 minutes long.

    We’ll be back.

  35. 35.

    Tonal Crow

    April 5, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    I think you need to remember your last post and fight. Write them, bitch and throw down rather than running for your drink.

    Exactly. Write them an LTE.

  36. 36.

    burnspbesq

    April 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    OT: It probably won’t surprise you to learn that in Simi Valley, CA (the home of the Reagan Library), there is a public thoroughfare called Galt Street. Wish I could have gotten a picture of the sign, but I was too damn slow.

  37. 37.

    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire

    April 5, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @burnspbesq: I asume that Galt Street has been freed from the crushing tyranny of traffic law so that society’s makers can experiment with more efficient means of transportation. Hey, maybe driving straight down the middle of the street while clearing your path with a flamethrower is the better way, but we’d never know thanks to the cradle-to-grave nanny state telling us how to drive.

  38. 38.

    Citizen_X

    April 5, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    That awful colored man stipulated the incontestable? He stipulated the incontestable? Oh mah stars! Ah do believe ah may faint!

  39. 39.

    prufrock

    April 5, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @burnspbesq: I saw one of those in Omaha too. I nearly wrecked my car.

  40. 40.

    burnspbesq

    April 5, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @efgoldman:

    And what the hell is the hockey tournament doing in freaking Tampa?

    It’s also been held in Anaheim. All you need is an NHL arena. And if you’d been cooped up in Duluth or Orono all winter, wouldn’t you like a chance to expose your pasty white flesh to the sun in early April?

  41. 41.

    Baron Jrod of Keeblershire

    April 5, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    @efgoldman: It’s almost like people retain more accurate information and critical thinking faculties when they don’t live in a country with a trillion-dollar right-wing propaganda operation. Who knew?

  42. 42.

    grandpa john

    April 5, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    It’s useless to waste time on idiots like this, After seeing this kind of garbage, I like to go look at the RCP electoral vote page. Obama 233 EV likely or leaning with all the leaning except NV having Obamas ave 10+, NV is 7.
    9 toss-up states,Obama has the lead in all but MO. He is leading in VA,OH, and PA +5 or better,margins, and represent 53 electoral votes 233 +53 = 286 .Now these numbers are averages not some cherry picked poll , they even include Rasmussen polls. Now after looking at this I sleep much better at night. Just turn on my CPAP and block out all the right wing lies and bullshit.

  43. 43.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 5, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @Keith G: I demand needs-based blathering.

  44. 44.

    OzoneR

    April 5, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Well if only Obama had used the bully pulpit. Using the bully pulpit to call out SCOTUS would have worked. amirite?

  45. 45.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 5, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @efgoldman: President Mike (+17) Dukakis.

  46. 46.

    grandpa john

    April 5, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @efgoldman: @efgoldman: Only thing I can figure about them wingnuts is that they must of all married Stepford Wives, Because I learned Years ago , that it was not a good idea to piss off my wife.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    April 5, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Obama would look much more bad ass driving a tank.

  48. 48.

    Citizen_X

    April 5, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @burnspbesq: That street sign would be public property, and since public property is theft, a true libertarian would steal it. Er, I meant privatize it.

  49. 49.

    Polish the Guillotines

    April 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Two words: Justice Sunday.

    Democrats need to shout those two words over and over again and remind everyone how the GOP was against the Supreme Court before it was for it.

    Make these bastards eat every damn word they’ve ever uttered.

  50. 50.

    grandpa john

    April 5, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Obama ain’t a Dukakis and we are talking state polls here, not national popularity polls

  51. 51.

    Raven

    April 5, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Baud: Nah, you have to wear those dumb ass helmets. Nobody looks good in them.

  52. 52.

    Schlemizel

    April 5, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @Polish the Guillotines:
    Why is it that this is so obvious to a bunch of us nobodies on an insignificant blog in the middle of Leftblogistan but the pros who make mega-bucks can’t figure this out? What are we missing that these geniuses have figured out?

  53. 53.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 5, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    @efgoldman: I’m taking the Mittster and the points. He won’t win, but he’ll cover.

  54. 54.

    ppcli

    April 5, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Ever since, the White House has been struggling to explain what the president meant.

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    I understand why the Republicans in Congress would dishonestly pretend they are puzzled about what he said. And the dittoheads are morons, so of course they don’t get it and will eat up whatever Rush says. But how cynical can a journalist be? There is no puzzle about what the president meant. Of course he didn’t mean that Marbury v. Madison was wrongly decided. Of course he knows that the Supreme court has the power to strike down legislation, and has often done so in its history. That is absolutely fucking obvious. Anyone who maintains otherwise is either dishonest or paramecium-level stupid. And whatever journalist it was that wrote the highlighted sentence knows it. Everybody knows more or less what the president was trying to say, and the Republicans are pretending they don’t, and the journalists like JOHN H. CUSHMAN Jr. of the New York Times are going along with this charade.

    Remember that name: JOHN H. CUSHMAN Jr. Let him always be in your memory as the bozo who played along with this idiotic kabuki-dance.

  55. 55.

    MikeJ

    April 5, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Agreed. But it was nice to see the wingers pissed at morning blow for daring to say that Mitt is toast, and that everybody in the GOP leadership knows it.

  56. 56.

    Hill Dweller

    April 5, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    I’m taking the Mittster and the points. He won’t win, but he’ll cover.

    It shouldn’t be, but this is the most likely outcome.

    I was just reading a Mother Jones article about Romney just flat out lying, repeatedly, at the AP yesterday, and no one in the media seemed to care.

    The MSM is going to bend over backwards to make this a horse race.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    April 5, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    @efgoldman: The other advantage Obama has is that he can stake out any position he wants — and Romney has to oppose it to satisfy the GOP base. Expect to see Obama come out in favor of puppies some time in late September.

  58. 58.

    Polish the Guillotines

    April 5, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @Schlemizel: Beats me. I can sort of understand politicians succumbing to election year cowardice — and considering every year is an election year, it’s a chronic condition.

    What drives me to drink is the utter incompetence of the press to point out the bleeding obvious. The whole freakin’ point of the First Amendment is to protect the press when they criticize the government and politicians. Live up to the mandate, for fuck’s sake.

  59. 59.

    Some Loser

    April 5, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    @ppcli:

    The media needs a damn horse race, and they’ll make one if they have to.

    How else will they generate revenue? Actual journalism? Too hard!

  60. 60.

    Some Loser

    April 5, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @Baud:

    He already did.

  61. 61.

    burnspbesq

    April 5, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    OT: Rut-roh. From espn.com

    Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino had a 25-year-old female passenger with him during a weekend motorcycle ride that ended with a crash that sent him to the hospital, according to a police report released Thursday.

  62. 62.

    Raven

    April 5, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    @burnspbesq: Fukin skunk.

  63. 63.

    Raven

    April 5, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    Jessica Dorrell, she works for the Athletic Dept.

    In a video posted Thursday evening by KFSM in northwest Arkansas, Petrino was asked following that news conference if he had another passenger.

    “Hey coach, you said you were alone on the bike, right,” the reporter asked.

    “Yeah,” Petrino said before continuing to walk away.

    It ain’t the crime it’s the lie.

  64. 64.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    April 5, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Dear Mr President, Atty General Holder. Put that coffee down! Coffee Is For Closers, Democrats!

  65. 65.

    Raven

    April 5, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    Heart attack for Davy, little herb but nothing else.

  66. 66.

    swordofdoom

    April 5, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    So what I want to know, is how Judge Smith’s nakedly craven political act of demanding the president publicly kiss his ass in a completely unrelated matter doesn’t constitute grounds for impeachment? He, and the two judges who signed the order with him, clearly lack the temperament to render impartial decisions. Yes, of course I know it’s a political impossibility, but what if some pissy circuit court had made a similar request of W., or, heaven forfend, St. Ronnie? You goddamn betcha the GOP would already be firing up the Judicial Committee hearings.

  67. 67.

    dmsilev

    April 5, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    OT: Conservative Catholics find yet another way to be a bunch of assholes:

    For three years now, Compañeros, a small nonprofit organization in rural southwestern Colorado, has received thousands of dollars from the Roman Catholic Church to help poor Hispanic immigrants with basic needs including access to health care and guidance on local laws.
    __
    But in February, the group was informed by a representative from the Diocese of Pueblo that its financing from the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, an arm of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops devoted to ending poverty, was in danger.
    __
    The problem, the diocesan liaison explained, was Compañeros’s membership in an immigrant rights coalition that had joined forces with a statewide gay and lesbian advocacy group, recounted Nicole Mosher, Compañeros’s executive director.

  68. 68.

    Hawes

    April 5, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    I just hope the White House knows that with all the stink the GOP is raising over this, it just means they are winning.

  69. 69.

    Narcissus

    April 5, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    I still maintain that the solution to all our Village problems is aerosolized MDMA.

  70. 70.

    Tonal Crow

    April 5, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    @Baud:

    @efgoldman: The other advantage Obama has is that he can stake out any position he wants—and Romney has to oppose it to satisfy the GOP base. Expect to see Obama come out in favor of puppies some time in late September.

    Not to mention that incident with Seamus on the roof, scared shitless, and Mitt hosing him down and then getting back on the highway. Oh yeah, the Mittster ain’t living that bit of animal cruelty down. Also too, ya think it might be cold on the roof at 60 mph when you’re soaking wet?

  71. 71.

    priscianusjr

    April 5, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    @ppcli:

    Remember that name: JOHN H. CUSHMAN Jr. Let him always be in your memory as the bozo who played along with this idiotic kabuki-dance.

    I will, and yet somehow I don’t think that it was actually his idea. i think Perry White or whoever the editor is over there probably said something like “Great Caesar’s Ghost, Johnny, we need a story on how Obama fucked up on this Supreme Court thing. Now go out and get it.”
    “Yes Chief, right away.”
    “And don’t call me chief!”
    “OK, Chief.”

  72. 72.

    Even farther west

    April 6, 2012 at 2:10 am

    @West of the Cascades: That was exactly my conclusion after reading AG Holder’s letter.

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