***My latest for The Raw Story presents ABLC. Warning: You will have to click over to finish the post. Them’s the breaks. -ABLxx
National Review Online’s John Derbyshire has penned the sort of racist drivel that makes me want to dump a bottle of single-malt over my head. Essentially, he takes “The Talk” which black parents have with their kids to keep them from ending up like Trayvon Martin, and retools it for white folks.
Needless to say, it’s aggressively stupid and unimaginably racist.
Let’s just say, if you took some racism, added more racism, and then wrapped it in racism, the end product still would not be as racist as Derbyshire’s really really ridiculously racist “common sense” tips for his kids.
Here they are (with added tipsfrom yours truly):
(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally. [A strange Negro is a dangerous Negro. -ed.]
(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods. [If you see spinning rims, hear loud thumping bass, and see cars bouncing up and down as if on a pogo stick, get the fuck out of there. You’re about to get capped. -ed.]
(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot). [Be sure to call up Six Flags and ask for scientifically-sound data regarding the ratio of Negroes to non-Negroes. Also, ask about the ‘conceal and carry’ policies. You may want to bring your handgun, in case shit gets real and you’re forced to stand your ground. As for the beach, black people don’t swim, so instead of being in the water, they’re usually on the beach rifling through your shit, so keep yo shit under lock and key. -ed.]
(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks. [Stay away from basketball courts, watermelon patches, and Roscoe’s Chicken & Waffles -ed.]
(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible. [If you see a wave of blacks coming at you, you better run or lock and load! -ed.]
(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians. [Isn’t this just 10(b) repeated? Also, does this mean that all you racist-ass white people are going to finally leave the country when Obama wins his second term? I hear hell is unseasonably warm. -ed.]
(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white. [Make sure you ask for his long-form birth certificate and determine whether or not he maintains anti-colonialist views. Most black politicians are con artists. -ed.]
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway. [If you see a Negro with a flat tire, keep it movin’. We’re probably going to carjack you. -ed.]
(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving. [ You’re just asking for trouble. Do not stop for strange Negroes. They’re usually up to no good. What the fuck are you doing in a black neighborhood anyway? We talked about this already. (See 10(b).) -ed.]
(11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. “Life is an IQ test.” [Ni-CLANG!s are stupid. It says so in The Bell Curve. -ed.]
[Click to read the rest at The Raw Story]
Arm The Homeless
Well, we have arrived at the point when the Neo-Nazis have begun their “Protect Whitey Patrols”.
When do we begin to start tying these fuckers around the neck of the Florida GOP and ALEC?
Chet
Racist commentator writes racist commentary. Knock me over with a feather.
marduk
“[Click to read the rest at The Raw Story]”
No. Offended. This violates my personal sense of blogging etiquette.
Jeff Spender
This is absolutely vile and disgusting.
Steve
This just might be the most racist thing I have ever read. One of the reasons I regret the loss of Pat Buchanan from MSNBC is because, quite frankly, it is important for people to understand that these views are out there. Sweep them all under the rug and you give people license to claim that racism is dead and people should stop talking about it and blah blah blah.
Joseph Nobles
Oh, my God. I’d only seen 1-11 before. IWSB must be seen to be believed.
Litlebritdifrnt
My jaw literally dropped open when I read that after TNC tweeted about it today. I thought it couldn’t possibly be as bad as he said, it was actually worse. The fact that this fucker is a Brit saddens me to no end.
jl
@Jeff Spender:
This also SOP National Review position on racial, ethnic and cultural equality and diversity in the US since its founding in mid 50s.
Commenters (I think including me) have made jokes about how WFB Jr. was shaking his head in disbelief and sorrow at his progeny at that rag. But on this topic, Buckley would approve, even if he dressed up better than Derbyshire.
Xecky Gilchrist
:O
just :O
Martin
Come on ABL. Cars bouncing means Mexican, not Negro. You should know that. You’re gonna get us white people all confused if you mix up the stereotypes like that.
jl
If this vile crud causes a fuss, NRO will probably say it is a take off on some stereotypical African American family ‘the talk’ and try to hide behind that screen.
I do not know what NRO has to fear from a public reaction, assuming enough notice or care, since it lives off of reactionary wingnut welfare slush fund money.
xochi
Wow. I’m not exactly surprised that Derbyshire is this much of a racist, but I am shocked that any publication that isn’t directly affiliated with Neo-Nazis wants to get anywhere near this. This is too blatant even for a blog that employs Pat Buchanan.
Shari
@Arm The Homeless:
I am as white as they come, and those guys scare the shit out of me. I wouldn’t let my (white) kids walk around the neighborhood with these guys around.
I am so glad I don’t live in Florida. Or Texas. Or Arizona.
Loneoak
The least plausible part of that essay in raciosity? The idea that Derb’s children are on speaking terms with him.
JoeShabadoo
Holy shit.
I don’t think he can dig a whole any deeper and then I get to his next “point.” The last one especially.
jl
@Shari: If a teenage female in family, best to keep out of Derbyshire’s range. Not sure if he acts on his convictions and preferences, but best to take no chances.
CJ
Are we absolutely certain he isn’t baiting us? Because it’s almost too perfectly over-the-fucking-top racist. I would almost be proud to write some of that as snark.
David Koch
You’re lying.
He didn’t say “blacks” he said “blahs”.
James Gary
Glad to see Roscoe’s Chicken & Waffles getting a shout-out…I LOVED their food back when I lived in L.A. One of my favorite places to eat, ever.
(Side note: I am a lily-white college boy, if it matters.)
Citizen_X
Yimminy. Is this meant to be some kind of a joke? Klan “humor?”
And this:
I know white supremacists are, as a rule, dumb as dirt, but I read that and I think, “ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?”
Narcissus
Derbyshire is basically the archetype for paleo-conservative-racist-as-fuck-imperialist, so I doubt he’s trolling.
lacp
If I don’t need any Negroes for a while, does the starter refrigerate well?
Svensker
One would hope that it is not very funny spoof. Sadly, one would be wrong.
I really don’t know what to say to that. It’s just unfathomable.
gnomedad
Where is this? I know you don’t want to give him the clicks, but I need to see this in situ. I can’t find it.
MattF
I’m gonna resist the urge to be specific about Derbyshire’s various unpleasant statements about a variety of unpleasant things. But he’s been around for a while, and every now and then there’s a huge shit explosion that comes from his direction– what’s happening now is more or less par for the course. He is what he is.
The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
@xochi:
Since Obama became president, sadly, it seems we’ve backslid from that old Atwater observation: you really CAN say ‘Nigger Nigger Nigger’ now these days, and get roaring applause and support for doing so. And it’s only. Getting. Worse.
These next 4 years are going to be hell no matter who wins. If the GOP wins, it’ll be hell because…well, the GOP wins. If Obama manages to stay afloat, we’re going to see the rock bottom of race relations jackhammered out from underneath us all in an attempt to have Obama’s lasting legacy be ‘Nigger Nigger Nigger’. No more code wording or dog whistling. Just the outright froth of the worst of humanity enforcing its will on all those ugly dirty brown people.
wrb
@gnomedad:
I posted the link on the last thread:
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire#axzz1rBeqdcIl
Mike in NC
NRO douchebag Derbyshire is a racist shitbird? Whocoodanode???
different-church-lady
I can’t possibly be seeing that.
Even as satire I can’t possibly be seeing that.
Was there some kind of mis-wired doomsday machine that went off this year for only conservatives or something?
dmsilev
You know, when I first heard about this earlier today, I assumed things like “Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.” were someone’s Shorter and that Derbyshire had cloaked his racist assholism by using somewhat more subtle language.
Nope. Those are direct quotes.
HRA
I cannot even get the courage to read drivel of the nature spewed by yet another idiot and especially today. Today someone sent 24 photos of the old neighborhood where I finished growing up. I was 12 when we moved there from an all white neighborhood in Canada and where there was one Black student in my school and in my class. The new neighborhood was a mixture of every ethnic and color. Yet, my parents never had any talk about it with me. What is missing is a great story of how my parents and I went to Emancipation Day celebrations in my hometown and what it was that made my parents take me there. Alas, it’s too long of a tale to write here.
Egg Berry
@different-church-lady:
Sometime in November, 2008, more likely.
Steve
I have read a lot of stuff by Derbyshire and I think this is about 85% straight-up racism, 15% rhetorical point “if blacks can talk frankly about how bad whitey is then why can’t we do the same.” Others are welcome to offer their own percentages.
One famous Derbyshire moment occurred during Katrina when Steve Sailer (who usually sticks to just being a crypto-racist) raised eyebrows by writing that blacks have “poorer native judgment.” One of the Cornerites actually stuck his head up from the muck long enough to say “wow, that was racist as fuck.” Who stepped into the breach to defend poor Mr. Sailer? Of course it was the Derb!
gocart mozart
10a) Avoid concentrations of wingnuts not all known to you personally.
(10b) Stay out of heavily wingnut infested comment sections.
(10c) If planning a trip to a blog or website at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with wingnut commentators on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by stupid.)
(10d) Do not click on links likely to draw a lot of wingnut commentators.
(10e) If you are at some blog at which the number of trolls suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.
(10f) Do not settle in a blog or website run by people who would post anything written by John Derbyshire.
(10g) Before voting for a Tea Party politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a rational human being.
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to ‘conservatives” in apparent distress, e.g., on Talk Radio, or in the U.S. Senate, House, or Republican primaries.
(10i) If accosted by a strange troll in the LGM comments, smile and say something polite but keep moving.
gocart mozart
10a) Avoid concentrations of wingnuts not all known to you personally.
(10b) Stay out of heavily wingnut infested comment sections.
(10c) If planning a trip to a blog or website at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with wingnut commentators on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by stupid.)
(10d) Do not click on links likely to draw a lot of wingnut commentators.
(10e) If you are at some blog at which the number of trolls suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.
(10f) Do not settle in a blog or website run by people who would post anything written by John Derbyshire.
(10g) Before voting for a Tea Party politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a rational human being.
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to ‘conservatives” in apparent distress, e.g., on Talk Radio, or in the U.S. Senate, House, or Republican primaries.
(10i) If accosted by a strange troll in the Balloon Juice comments, smile and say something polite but keep moving.
samara morgan
why don’t you share that Derbyshire mail with TNC, Imani?
you have my permission.
;)
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Martin:
Unless they’re bouncy souped-up Honda Civics, in which case it’s a Filipino thing. My auto-mechanic cousin keeps me up to date on this stuff. I need to know who I’m dealing with, after all, and at any given moment the clues to which stereotype I need to plug in may be very subtle and I may have to
drawreact quickly. Racisidentin’ is hard!Jennifer
“Hey, Derbyshire – you got racism on our racism!”
KG
@James Gary: This (except the lily white part, I’m a bit more brown)… But sweet baby Buddha, I love me some Roscoe’s
blahblah
(12) There is a magnifying effect here, too, caused by affirmative action. In a pure meritocracy there would be very low proportions of blacks in cognitively demanding jobs. Because of affirmative action, the proportions are higher. In government work, they are very high. Thus, in those encounters with strangers that involve cognitive engagement, ceteris paribus the black stranger will be less intelligent than the white. In such encounters, therefore—for example, at a government office—you will, on average, be dealt with more competently by a white than by a black. If that hostility-based magnifying effect (paragraph 8) is also in play, you will be dealt with more politely, too. “The DMV lady“ is a statistical truth, not a myth. [Negroes are too stupid to do cognitive-intensive work. If you see them working at the Post Office, avoid them. They’re too stupid to sell you stamps, and they’re going to be hostile about it because all they’ll be thinking while trying to help your white ass is “KILL WHITEY!” -ed.]
(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice. [Find an IWSB aka “a starter Negro,” make him or her your friend, and never let go! If you feel up to it, ask for a photo of your starter Negro so that you can wear it in a locket around your neck. Ideally, you would be featured in the photo with your starter Negro so that there will be proof that you have taken a picture with at least one black person. When someone accuses you of being racist, show the accuser a picture of you and your Black Friend. The accuser will immediately be appeased, and likely become your Second Black Friend. Soon you’ll be stacking up Black Friends like paper. -ed.]
(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers. [There aren’t enough starter Negroes to go around, so you might have to share one. -ed.]
(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13). [Don’t be jelly of the starter Negroes. Starter Negroes are better than elitist white people and are to be treated with respect. If you talk smack about a starter Negro, you’ll be called racist. If you are called racist, show your accuser your Negro Locket and demand an apology. Then have a good laugh and feel good that you are racially enlightened. Also, if your accuser is black, determine if s/he is willing to be your second (or third, or fourth) Black Friend. The more starter Negroes in your armory, the better you’ll be able to fend off pesky accusations of racism. -ed.]
I have to hand it to Mr. Derbyshire. It’s usually fairly difficult to pack so much racist fail into one post. In fact, I’m so impressed, that I volunteer to be his starter Negro, should he need one. Call me, John!
On a personal note, I stumbled across an article on NRO via Wonkette, which detailed Derbyshire’s talk to the Black Law Student Association at UPenn School of Law two years ago, wherein he lectured black students about their intellectual inferiority:
Readers want a report on my Monday appearance before the Black Law Students Association at U. Penn.
It wasn’t actually very exciting. The main point of the thing was indeed to chew over Amy Wax’s new book. The argument of the book, very briefly, is that what can be done in law, politics, and social engineering to make amends for slavery and Jim Crow has been done, and the rest is up to African Americans themselves.
Here’s the description of Amy Wax’s book, Race Wrongs, and Remedies from Amazon:
Black Americans continue to lag behind on many measures of social and economic well-being. Conventional wisdom holds that these inequalities can only be eliminated by eradicating racism and providing well-funded social programs. In Race, Wrongs, and Remedies, Amy L. Wax applies concepts from the law of remedies to show that the conventional wisdom is mistaken. She argues that effectively addressing today’s persistent racial disparities requires dispelling the confusion surrounding blacks’ own role in achieving equality.
The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that discrimination against blacks has dramatically abated. The most important factors now impeding black progress are behavioral: low educational attainment, poor socialization and work habits, drug use, criminality, paternal abandonment, and non-marital childbearing. Although these maladaptive patterns are largely the outgrowth of past discrimination and oppression, they now largely resist correction by government programs or outside interventions. Wax asserts that the black community must solve these problems from within. Self-help, changed habits, and a new cultural outlook are, in fact, the only effective tactics for eliminating the present vestiges of our nation’s racist past.
*blank stare*
Amy Wax was my civil procedure professor during my 1L year at UVA. She pretty much scared the shit out of all the first years, and her final exam hung like the Sword of Damocles over all the heads of the students unfortunate to be stuck in her class. Given her prickly personality and what I remember about her, I guess it’s not surprising that she subscribes to the Bell Curve theory of black success and intelligence.
By the way, I got an A- in Civ Pro, which (from what I understand) is pretty rare. It was common knowledge that very few students got A’s on Amy Wax’s exams, and I remember being very proud of myself at the time. Thirteen years later, I now have this vision of her remarking, “See? Here’s one of the good ones” as she graded my exam.
Damn, it feels good to be an IWSB.
zzyzx
Don’t go to the original link because:
(1) It’s filled with godawful comments from people who are proud to call themselves racist.
and more importantly
(2) The site has a ton of ads. Don’t give them the money.
tofubo
my “favorite” derb “column”
http://old.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml
fuck him
MonkeyBoy
So ABL, what is the status of your promised RSS feed at RS?
Chuck Butcher
So if I’m to avoid his sort of people I need to hang with large concentrations of black people? I do hang with some blacks here at home, but a large concentration would mean more than two. Other places where I do hang with large concentrations I also seem to have avoided his kind of people – happily.
It isn’t so easy to avoid his kind of people at home – sadly.
Catsy
I’m going to go out on a limb here and give the maximum possible benefit of the doubt to Derb here: that he doesn’t seriously think any of these things, but rather is trying to make some kind of asinine point about the “reverse racism” he sees in the typical teachings and admonitions responsible black parents give to their kids about how to survive in a world where Driving While Black is probable cause and Walking While Black can be a capital offense.
I imagine his reasoning is something along these lines: “Nobody ever calls out black parents for the racism of indoctrinating their kids to be afraid or wary of white people. I’m going to go through a list of these kind of ground rules and replace ‘white’ with ‘black’ to illustrate how racist it sounds that way. Kinda like how if you replace ‘Nazis’ with ‘Jews’ it shows how all those video games that glorify blowing away Nazis in WW2 are just as bad as the Holocaust.”
There are serious problems with this flavor of “reasoning”.
Guess what: sometimes switching the names of two groups in a statement doesn’t reveal anything insightful but overlooked in how the original statement sounds–sometimes, it’s just a completely inapt analogy that sounds as absurd as it is. Consider the following statement: “I would not leave my child alone with a Catholic priest.” How horribly bigoted that is! And to show you how bigoted it is, let me replace “Catholic” with “Wiccan” so that it reads, “I would not leave my child alone with a Wiccan priest.” Doesn’t that sound awful and bigoted, libtards?
As it turns out, no: because after countless instances of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church and hard evidence that the Church has actively worked to protect pedophile priests, there are some pretty damn compelling reasons why any responsible parent would balk at leaving their child alone with a Catholic priest–reasons that make the statement utterly nonsensical if you change “Catholic” to some other religion.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the Derb might want to check his privilege at the door long enough to realize that there might be some fairly legitimate reasons for black people to be wary of white people–especially in circumstances where they’re outnumbered or vulnerable. Say, perhaps, centuries of reasons.
I submit that we should give Derb the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was inartfully trying to make this kind of point. I would much prefer to assume that my adversary is a pig-ignorant turd-burgling fucktard so blinded by his own privilege and lack of empathy that he could write this garbage, than assume that he’s a pig-ignorant racist.
That’s just me, though.
Joseph Nobles
Imagine a household where teenagers fending off The Talk might say, “Dad, I already know to maintain my majority at all times! I found that out three years ago at Stormfront!”
Calouste
I wonder if Derbyshire still has a UK passport, because I wouldn’t be surprised if that article makes him end up on the list of people not allowed to enter the UK, like Fred Phelps and Michael Savage.
Joseph Nobles
@blahblah: Hey, way to violate what looks like an agreement between ABL and Raw Story by reproducing in full without permission the rest of her article!
Troll.
Catsy
@blahblah: You are awesome and full of win. Will you be my token IWSB friend so that I can prove to all my coworkers and buddies on Facebook that I’m Totally Not Racist?
Edit: oh wait, that wasn’t your writing, that was a reproduction of the link that I totally failed to click through to. In that case I withdraw my token proposal and direct it to the rightful winner of my token-IWSB-friend-dom.
roseyviolet
I absolutely agree that the post is vile, offensive and disgusting at every level. Unfortunately, this:
“In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice”
is basically his escape pod. It’s so insanely, bizarrely over-the-top ridiculous that he will (and I guarantee, he absolutely, no-question WILL) insist when inevitably confronted that “my God it was obviously satire, how could you humorless idiots possibly fail to see that?”
samara morgan
the sad thing is Derb’s wife is asian.
i wunner how she views this.
blahblah
@Catsy: If you can’t figure that shit out by where the numbering picked up then you’re too stupid to read a blog.
Obviously it’s a repost of the rest of ABL’s article at RawStory.
samara morgan
@Catsy: i know him from when i was a conservative.
He is a stone racist. i it take you never read any of his sun people, ice people bullshytt?
Reads like a stormfront post.
Catsy
@samara morgan: It may shock you to learn that being a member of one minority group does not automatically confer empathy towards members of other minority groups.
johnny gentle famous crooner
Isn’t Derbyshire the same guy who basically called the Virginia Tech massacre students a bunch of pussies because they didn’t somehow go Red Dawn on the shooter?
He’s a vile human being. Maybe Sulluvan will finally stop excerpting the guy as if he’s some deep conservative thinker.
Catsy
@blahblah: Or, alternatively, that I thought you were creatively riffing off of the original work by continuing it rather than simply repeating it verbatim without attribution.
Please accept my apologies for overestimating your wit.
samara morgan
@Catsy: well your empathy is misdirected.
Derbyshire is an oldskool racist of the first order.
you always pop up with that kumbayah bullshytt Catsy.
Derbyshire is just like freddie and Kain…..On. the. Other. Side.
Stranded Northerner
I went looking for Derbyshire’s original post just to make sure it was not posted on April 1. Nope, April 5.
Maybe he meant to post a comment on Fox’s website but posted to Taki in error?
No?
Daaaaaaaaamn…
Polar Bear Squares
I’m SOOOO adding to this list.
(11a) Do NOT subscribe or watch BET, TVOne or VH-1 Soul under ANY circumstances.
(11b) Do NOT buy any Eminem, Everlast or Machine Gun Kelly albums. White rappers are a gateway drug to black ones.
(11c) Do NOT eat at Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles. The deliciousness will make you have empathy for the blacks.
(11d) Do NOT attend any movie starring Will Smith, Denzel Washington or Eddie Murphy. A black guy was President on screen first. Need I Say More!
(11e) Do NOT buy any athletic apparel. As any money spent on a Kobe, Lebron or Durant jersey will only be swiftly returned to the New Black Panther Party.
(11f) Make your hippie liberal uncle buy the good weed from the black guy. He deserves what he gets!
(11e) Avoid makeup advertised by Alicia Keys. Hot mixed girls are just lulling you to sleep so their boyfriends can come steal your wallet!
Litlebritdifrnt
“well-socialized blacks” this to me is the most offensive of his column, it makes black people sound like feral fucking cats for christs sake. If you can somehow begin feeding one and eventually “socialize” it it might become useful. How the fuck is it even acceptable to speak about a group of human beings in that manner?
samara morgan
srsly, ABL, you can share that Derbyshire email i sent you.
Tucker Carlson did it.
;)
Egg Berry
WTH is with the letters. 10a, 10b, 10c?
Just use numbers, racist dipshit.
Catsy
@samara morgan:
What empathy?
I hadn’t noticed.
And you continue to lack the subtlety needed to distinguish between a sincere attempt to give someone the benefit of the doubt, and the rhetorical tactic of insincerely giving someone the benefit of the doubt in order to damn them with faint praise: i.e. “I am going to give my flat-earther friend the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is simply an uneducated fool who was indoctrinated by his crazy parents, because that wouldn’t be his fault. It’s much nicer than assuming he’s either completely dishonest or batshit insane.”
While we’re at it, you might want to rethink your habitual misuse of the term “bulshytt“. It’s very cute and all that you’ve read Anathem (or at least read other people talking about how they read Anathem), but you should probably know that it’s not simply an alternate spelling for “bullshit”.
Felanius Kootea
Holy fuck! I know his children are biracial (half Asian) and wonder whether they have ever faced any discrimination and what he’s told them if they have.
Elie
Y’all have to remember, you always have to concentrate and surface the poison to wipe it out. It is important to surface your opponents where possible to understand the scope and how they ” show” themselves. You cannot vanquish the invisible… or the unknown. It must be known and to the extent possible, visible… First.
David Koch
If it ain’t white, it ain’t right.
WereBear
I can’t believe he goes out in public and doesn’t make people mad enough to shoot him, pretty frequently.
I haven’t even met him and I would like to club him repeatedly with a large sea bass.
The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
@Litlebritdifrnt:
It’s easy: Don’t consider them human beings.
samara morgan
@Catsy: maybe you can paper over your Derb remarks, but you are the First Defender of Kain and de Bore, allus bitching about how mean i am.
You remind me of McMegan Clone Heather McDonald.
oh ratz.
sadly, razib disappeared Heathers post about how poufters getting married would run off all the black babydaddies.
it was so epic.
that was back when i usta argue with Sailer and Derbyshire.
Narcissus
@samara morgan: Even Derbyshire knows that asian women are very sexiful. They love you long time.
General Stuck
Nice one ABL, it made me giggle a little. Nobody puts the clown shoos on ugly like you do.
Jennifer
Edited for more truthfulness:
(13) In that pool of the 27%, there are nonetheless a few less conspicuously stupid people, who are able to string words together well enough that they appear intelligent to other stupid people. (I’ll use WWW, wingnut welfare wanker, as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with WWWs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of fellowship with others who see sociopathy as a virtue, you will gain an ally for a potentially career-creating hand-up (see Breitbart, Andrew, who’s STILL DEAD, O’Keefe, James, rapeboat captain, and Loesch, Dana, terminal embarrassment for CNN).
(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display “political balance” by employing WWWs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions – those in which people actually have to know jackshit in order to earn a paycheck. There is also strong private demand from various front organizations for the obscenely wealthy for personal bonds with WWWs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.
(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply; most conservatives are too fucking stupid even to appear smart to other stupid people, so WWWs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by rich motherfuckers and wealthy organizations, slavishly lauded and parroted by the less prosperous and more stupid. To be a WWW in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history, most of whom actually had to do something other than pull on their dicks to earn a living. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as a signal that you’re a RINO (see paragraph 13).
p.a.
World renowned social scientist and statistician John Derbyshire has determined that approx. 5% of blacks hate any and all whites.
I humbly posit that 100% of blacks exposed to John Derbyshire’s word vomit hate him. (Alan Keyes may be an exception). Probably 73% of whites hate him also.
samara morgan
@WereBear: well…..hes kinda dying.
TT
@The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik:
I agree with you, but with one exception. It didn’t start with Obama becoming president. It started the day after 9/11. 9/11 unleashed the inner “id” of at least a third of this country — and their deep hatred of dark-skinned people. The social mores that had kept this kind of blatant, public display of racism somewhat in check, such as they were, began to melt away. And, in general, the Republicans and the media cheered them on.
Then came Katrina, and a further disintegration of checks on racist public statements. Wolf Blitzer: “They’re so black!”
With 9/11, Katrina, two wars, and then the major economic collapse that affected almost everyone in the country, our nation — including racist whites — found itself in a deep crisis, looking for help anywhere.
And then — HOLY SHIT! — the country overwhelmingly up and elects a black man as president. I’m still not sure what to make of the fact that our country elected its first black president just at the moment when tolerance for public displays of racism in parts of the media and the South were sharply on the rise. Fascinating? Gratifying? In any case, it seemed clear to me even before Obama was elected that, given the thread of events, the old Birchers/27 percenters would rise up in fury.
What I did not expect was that mainstream Republicans would so publicly embrace these people. After all, they’ve done a tremendous job of cultivating these racists while keeping them generally out of the mainstream, “independent” political consciousness for 3 decades. Who knows where it goes from here, since the Republican elites can no longer keep this movement leashed. The most likely outcome is that Obama will win, and things will get worse.
Steve
@samara morgan: Someone who wrote that Steve Sailer isn’t racist probably shouldn’t be criticizing other people for giving folks a free pass.
Jennifer
@samara morgan: Not quickly enough.
Seriously, is he dying as in has something terminal? If so, again, it’s not progressing quickly enough.
Catsy
@samara morgan:
…BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*HOWLS*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, jesus fuck, I needed that. I love it when you say things that are so obviously stupid to anyone who actually read the thread that you completely beclown yourself. It really helps.
Child, I don’t have to “paper over” my comments about Derb. Here they are.
Now read the punch line:
The bolded part is my display of “empathy” towards Derbyshire. That is what constitutes “giving him the benefit of the doubt” in what I wrote: the assumption that he’s merely a “pig-ignorant turd-burgling fucktard”, as opposed to a racist.
If you can read that and think that I’m honestly trying to give him any kind of benefit of the doubt as opposed to using it as a rhetorical ploy to set him up for a bigger insult, you’re even dumber than you let on.
But because you’re you, six months from now you’ll probably dig up this link and smugly parade it around to “prove” that I praised Derb and expressed empathy for him.
I get the giggles just thinking about it.
samara morgan
@Catsy: i have read every word Stephenson has written, and i am a Mongoliad.
I am using it correctly.
source.
samara morgan
@Catsy: i just assumed you knew he was in chemo, and got the weeps. i don’t read all of your high verbal comments…i skip large parts of them.
Ben Cisco (mobile)
@HRA: I would love for you to post it at my place if you wish.
samara morgan
@Catsy: again, Derbyshire is a classic racist.
why use a rhetorical device at all?
General Stuck
@Jennifer:
If they hold a clown convention in the forest, will anyone hear the clowning? And if they do, who will be there to call them clowns at an all clown gathering? Deep thoughts, the usual on chicken and porn Fwiday..
Raven
@samara morgan: Where ya bean frijole?
Catsy
@samara morgan: Ah, I see. So when you took me to task for misdirecting empathy at Derb, giving him the benefit of the doubt, questioning whether he was really a racist, and trying to “paper over” the foregoing misdeeds, you were just assuming that this is what I meant because you didn’t actually (and habitually don’t) read the entire comment you were criticizing.
Thank you for this moment. It will be a useful touchstone for anyone who might be at risk of taking anything you have to say seriously.
Catsy
@samara morgan:
Because it’s more interesting and fun to write (or read) than “yeah, Derb is a racist, what else is new?”
But it does have the drawback of confusing borderline-illiterate fools whose known mental disorders predispose them to extreme literalism and an inability to process nuance.
quannlace
One could only hope that this is some kind of vicious satire. But after wondering ‘who’s John Derbyshire?’ and looking up his wikipedia listing, it mentioned, I guess another of his racial views.
“He has also written that only racially pure “ethnically intact” states cleansed of all but the “Arctic” races (whites and East Asians) will survive until the year 2099.”
2099? Is he planning on writing some dystopian fiction like the ‘Hunger Games?’
Or maybe that’s just another piece of satire.
Jeffraham Prestonian
Y’know, it’s really funny to me. I’m a white guy, I live in Nashville, and my only vehicle is a scooter, so any time I’m at the gas station, or many times just loading it up from a grocery trip, etc., I get at least one person approaching me with questions.
Demographically, Nashville has a larger white population than, say, Memphis. But the people who approach me about small talk over the scooter are about 6 or 7 times out of 10, black. I’m always happy to discuss it, and I usually have info about our “scooter gang” to hand out, and/or recommendations on reliable scooter dealers.
I guess if I lived the way Derbyshire appears to live, I’d be scared to death almost on a daily basis. That to me seems really a sad way to go through life. I talk to black people I don’t know literally every day, and you know what, Mr. Derbyshire? Those interactions are no different than any interactions I have with white strangers.
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curious
and this is why you need to hug your kids, people. john derbyshire could have been prevented.
TuiMel
@Chet:
Let us not forget that Derbyshire also is an exquisite sexist, as well. A more perfect purveyor of racist and sexist “commentary” is hard to find in the so-called mainstream of paid punditry.
Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)
Well, really, what Mr. Derbyshire says just makes sense. After all, who got the short end of the deal when Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman ran into each other? Oh, yeah, sure, I know what you’re going to say, “Hey, you racist fuckface, what the fuck are you talking about? Trayvon Martin is dead for fuck’s sake!”
So, yes, there is that, admittedly. And just because he ended up dead, everybody automatically assummes that he got the raw deal. But think about it: He’s dead. He no longer has anything to worry about. Nobody’s rushing to judgement and impugning his character. Well, again, in a narrow, technical sense, yes, people are rushing to judge him and smearing and slandering him and digging through his life to unearth any and every small mistake, misstep, misunderstanding and misspelling he ever made. But come on. He was black. It isn’t like that’s anything new to him, right? Can we, for the love of God, get a little perspective here? Please? And besides, he’s dead, so he doesn’t even have to hear it, only his parents and friends do, and, as I said above, they’re black, so they’re used to it. Can we please stop worrying about their feelings and maybe spare a thought to what George Zimmerman is going through?
Here’s a fine, upstanding guy, a diligent and watchful neighbor, always on the lookout for anything that might threaten his neighbors. And he was just minding his business when along comes this skittle-eating thug just tripping along through George Zimmerman’s neighborhood like he fucking owned the place. Or at least like his father did. (And here, again, technically, if you want to pick nots, I guess his father did live there, and so he had maybe some weak claim to a right to walk around there, but, shit, come on, he was chewing skittles, for fuck’s sake. That’s a gateway candy and everybody knows it.)
Anyway. So Zimmerman’s just minding his business, following random people with a gun, and along comes this little thug, and, really, what choice did Zimmerman have but to shoot him? Be honest here. I would have, and so would you. And so now the P.C. police want us to feel bad for Trayvon Martin (who, as I brought up again, is dead, so who cares, right?) when hewas the aggressor who blatantly and with malice aforethought walked through Zimmerman’s neighborhood? At night? Without even holding a sign or wearing one of those sandwich-board things that said, “Don’t shoot me, Whitey, my father lives up the street!”? Like this is Zimmerman’s fault he was accosted from three yards away, telepathically by a hoodlum wearing a hooded sweatshirt? Come on.
And so Zimmerman did what any right-thinking person would have done under those appalling circumstances: He shot the negro. And now everybody’s on his ass? Where’s the justice? People want to know why his story doesn’t stack up? Jeez, do I need to spell it out for you? He shot a negro! O.K.? There’s his story, and to be blunt here, that’s all that needs saying. Oh, no, but here come the race hustlers and poverty pimps throwing their race cards all up in everybody’s faces (and what’s with those decks, anyway? How many race cards do they need? They’re playing with a deck of 1000. They never run out. Racist black bastardss.)… Anyway, they’re throwing the race card down all over the place and asking why Zimmerman lied about having a bloody nose and lied about being attacked and lied about screaming for help.
But he only did that because the real racists made him do it. He got scared. The police were scared that the race-baiters would lynch him, so they helped him come up with a story that would get the poverty pimps off his ass. And to be fair, it should have. They should have just taken those claims as true, since, really, it’s only factually that they aren’t true. In a broader way, a, shall we say, a way that’s less true if you want to count up every last stray fact blowing around, but definitely true in a visceral, gut-checking kind of way, they’re true beyond any gainsaying, at least unless you’re one of these cranky blacks who just can’t let things go.
So, anyway, I think we can all see now who the real victim is here. And Mr. Derbyshire is only trying to help the outmanned, outgunned and out-race-hustled whites to see what kind of risks they run when they come up against a negro. And let us not mince words, they are scary. They are dangerous. They listen to this rap stuff and they’re all in gangs, and they can’t keep their pants up above their waists, and they’ll hang you from a tree just for looking at one of their women the wrong way. So I think we should all thank Mr. Derbyshire for his warnings. We’re at war, here, people. We whites didn’t start this war. I can’t think of anything we haven’t been willing to do for those people. We freed them from slavery, and it only took 250 years. We even passed special laws, giving them special rights, and they still aren’t happy. I mean, what more do you people want from us, anyway?
So, Mr. Derbyshire is only trying to help us white folk to see this threat for what it is. And I think we owe him a debt. We’re truly beholden for him. And I ask you, ABL, to stop violating his right to free speech, which you did when you publicly disagreed with him. Shame. On. You.
Jennifer
@Jeffraham Prestonian: Tends to be my experience here as well, in a city with a large black minority (35 – 40%). Surprising how people are nice when you treat them with respect as if they are, you know, PEOPLE.
I mean, even the winos. I see some of those guys hanging down the street from the church mission downtown sometimes when I’m walking in the vicinity. They seem to appreciate a “how are you gentlemen this afternoon?” as much as the next person does.
The prophet Nostradumbass
That crap was published by Taki “Takealotofcokeupthenos” Theodoracopulos, who has, in the past, expressed admiration for the Wehrmacht, and referred to the last CEO of Lehman Brothers as “a very homely, simian-looking Jew”.
Catsy
@samara morgan: With that said, I must concede upon further reflection that your use of “bulshytt” to describe my “benefit of the doubt” comments about Derb is actually a very good one–just not for the reasons you might think. Stopped clocks, etc.
You regularly wave the word around as if it were merely a clever in-joke substitution for “bullshit”, as a way to generically disparage stuff you think is dishonest or nonsensical. The actual definition, of course, is:
The purpose of my comment was to employ rhetorical subterfuge that superficially sounds as if I’m assuming good faith while signaling that I don’t actually believe the good faith interpretation, implying that if the (unlikely) good-faith interpretation of Derb’s post is that insulting, the (far more likely) uncharitable explanation is far worse.
In that way, it is indeed a classic example of bulshytt.
But it can’t be both that and a sincere expression of skepticism that Derb is a racist and a desire to give him the benefit of the doubt on that point. Which suggests to me that one of two things is true: either you thought my “empathy” for Derbyshire was sincere and were therefore both misreading the comment and misusing “bulshytt” the way I said you were, or you actually thought my comments were bulshytt (and therefore insincere) and were being dishonest in attacking me for having sincere “empathy” for Derb.
I would prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you simply make a habit of attacking comments you haven’t actually bothered to read. It’s much more charitable than assuming that you’re just dishonest.
(And frankly, if after that last paragraph you still can’t grasp the rhetorical ploy I used in my “benefit of the doubt” comments, I suggest remedial English. And a brain transplant.)
Woodrowfan
these sound like the “welcome to DC” instructions some teaparty fool wrote in preparation for some tearally in DC. Remember the warnings about staying off the green and yellow lines of the Metro, or not going beyond certain streets?
Woodrowfan
Derb’s rant is also further proof that the righties are scared of pretty much everything in the world. I’ve never seen people so AFRAID as the average wingnut.
Jennifer
@Woodrowfan: As I like to tell raving gun nuts, “it’s sad that you live in such a state of fear. Here you are, big burly tough man, so afraid of the world than you need a gun to keep you warm, while I’m just weak little girlie and seem to be able to get by without a firearm without pissing myself in fear.”
Dee Loralei
Speechless.
Billy K
I agree. How is this OK?
Jeffraham Prestonian
@Jennifer: Yeah. I get it that some people are unable to see those unlike themselves (in any variety of “unlike” you care to mention) as PEOPLE, primarily, before all else. What’s puzzling to me is how awful it must be to live in a mindset where one thinks that no one outside oneself has better intentions until proven otherwise.
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Jennifer
Re: violations of blogging etiquette:
Lighten up, Francis.
Woodrowfan
@Jennifer: I have an acquaintance like that. He simply does not understand that I am not afraid of someone invading my home.
Svensker
Did he write this at NRO? I think NRO has to fire his ass by the end of the weekend, or every single conservative politician and commentator/pundit has to be asked whether he or she agrees that blacks are inherently dumber than whites.
So, Jonah Goldberg, do you agree that blacks are dumber? And L.A. Times, how do you feel about employing Jonah Goldberg as a result of his answer?
ABL, is there an e-mail that we can start sending protests to? This is a Sandra Fluke moment for me. This fucker is so done and anyone who associates him or herself with him is done. The line has been crossed, dude, and there ain’t no uncrossing possible.
Ben Cisco
@Woodrowfan:
THIS.
Why would I choose to join, endorse, or vote for a party whose membership are so afraid of EVERYTHING? That’s insanity defined.
Steve
@Svensker: No, it was published at “Taki’s Magazine,” which is a repository for a lot of racist and crypto-racist stuff (although I don’t know if it’s exclusively about that). Pat Buchanan is listed as a contributor.
Svensker
@Steve:
Nevertheless, I think NRO needs to de-list him or own the racism.
Steve
@Svensker: They own it, dude. It’s not like he’s suddenly coming out of the closet!
Svensker
@Steve:
Oh, I know that. But this one you really can’t pretend, “Oh he didn’t mean THAT.” Like I said, this is a Sandra Fluke moment for me — too far over the line, even for a stone asshole.
Joey Maloney
@Arm The Homeless:
Wow, there’s a sentence I thought was going to end differently than it did!
Birthmarker
@Woodrowfan: Me too. A male relative packs all the time. I am just not that afraid.
Wonkie
If he thinks it is bad to live in a place that has black elected officials, does that mean Derb will move back to whereever the hell he comes from?
Lurking Canadian
[SCENE: Around an (empty, obviously) water cooler in Hell]
Bull Conner: Dude, did you read this latest screed by Derbyshire? Holy shit, that dude is racist!
Jefferson Davis: I KNOW!
Strom Thurmond: The article left a bad taste in my mouth.
Chet
@Steve: Speaking of Sailer, isn’t Derbyshire’s point #15 the same line of bullshit Sailer’s been touting for some time? You know, that no white person with his head on straight can genuinely like, respect, or give a flying fuck about nonwhites, and so anti-racism is merely an empty gesture by status-seeking liberal white snobs at the expense of their more ingenuous RealMurkin brethren?
lacp
OK, I know what ‘santorum’ is; can anybody give me a definition of ‘derbyshire?’
gocart mozart
@lacp:
It’s where the pedophile and/or racist Hobits get exciled to.
AlexD
Damn. And I love me some Roscoe’s. . . .
Rebecca
I admire your restraint. May I kick him in the balls on your behalf?
I can’t find where in Britain he was born. Must be nice to be ashamed of where you came from.
Bago
At least half of it is the whole “reverse racism” gambit, and the other half straddles the line between page views and stormfront. Intended to be provocative and get ad views, but waaaaaay too heartfelt. If he had stuck to “driving while white” bits, he could legitimately use a parody defense, but daaaaaaaamn, that was obviously a labor of love. Of racism.
nitpicker
I can’t wait to see the right swing to his defense. Gonna be a tough time on the NRO comment moderation beat this week.
nitpicker
And, as if to prove my point, Lowry says We here at NRO are above that sort of thing and shuts the comments off on that post.
Guess they didn’t want to end up in one of LGF’s list of racist rightwing comments posts.
Rogers
Wow. Isn’t it standard wingnut boilerplate that white (crucial qualification) racism hasn’t existed in Murka for quite some time, if ever? I guess Derb didn’t get the memo.
Peter A
@johnny gentle famous crooner: Derbyshire is one of the few commentators at NRO who says what all of them think. He’s also probably spent too much time with his wife’s Chinese relatives. His post reads like the kind of advice you would see in a Chinese newspaper. I think it is probably better to have those kind of attitudes out in the open where people can discuss and refute them. The sad thing is a lot of liberal whites live their lives as if they secretly agree with this stuff. Certainly 10 a,b, d and f seem to be pretty common among white people.
newhavenguy
I got it a while ago, but this Derbyshire thing made my eyes bug out a little.
A month or two ago a good friend and non-politics junkie looked up at me after seeing the latest booga-booga dog whistling race hatin’ that passes for politics and said “That’s all they have left.”
Not just about this election, or even just about this President. (I should correct my friend: fearing and controlling the wife/daughters/women in general is a big selling point too.)
Two points I’d posit:
1. Movement Conservativism has been a monstrous failure in delivering anything, anything at all to anyone but the rich cranks who underwrite it. BUT…
2. “It is a defense of hierarchy against emancipatory movements from below. It’s not a disposition or an attitude; it’s not a philosophy of liberty or even of limited government.” (Corey Robin, who I think is on to something there.)
I’d like to add my own,
3. Fuck that noise.
Buckley should be proud, without irony.
samara morgan
@Catsy: no catsy, i just don’t read through your comments. your comments are always bulshytt-talk. but apolos.
praps i misunderstood this time. ;)
from the book, not the wiki. And thus your poutrage over my response to your comment.
;)
samara morgan
@Catsy:
so juicers, what DID cats actually say?
bullshytt. a verbal thicket bereft of meaning that could have been have been condensed into a simple ….”Derb is a classic racist.” That statement has the added benefit of being verifiable with links to Derbs various posts, unlike catsy’s opinions about the motivations of privileged turds.
Her comment is the very definition of bullshytt.
;)
THE
Samara, I am shocked by what Derb’s views are these days. I really don’t remember him being like that.
BTW. I am going to take some time off blogs for a while to concentrate on other stuff including my own research. So I might not see you around for a while.
Westie
Derb is doing a follow up to AG Holder’s ‘time to start the race conversation’ comment. BTW, transpose Derb’s advice to a talk with the kids of Detroit, Philly, Chicago, etc and it might save a few lives of all colors.
Eli Rabett
@Litlebritdifrnt: If he was a Brit in Britain they would have thrown him in jail. Inciting racial hatred is a serious crime there.
Patricia Kayden
Dang. Sorry, but I had to laugh at Derbyshire’s nonsense. I know it’s not funny, but it almost sounds like something I would hear on an episode of “South Park”. Seems so outrageous and over the top that I would almost believe it was satire. But sadly, it’s not.
Hopefully, more conservative Repubs will reveal exactly how they feel about Blacks, women, gays, etc. Better their hatred be exposed than for them to go around pretending that they are just nice folks who want a small government. They’re a nasty group.