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You are here: Home / Politics / Republican Stupidity / Reince Priebus Doubles Down on the ‘War on Caterpillars’ Rhetoric

Reince Priebus Doubles Down on the ‘War on Caterpillars’ Rhetoric

by Imani Gandy (ABL)|  April 11, 201210:13 pm| 87 Comments

This post is in: Republican Stupidity, The War On Women, Vagina Outrage, Assholes

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Ladies?  The GOP thinks we’re stupid:

On Wednesday, MSNBC host Thomas Roberts gave Priebus a chance to revise his remarks.

“I’m not going to walk back,” the RNC chairman insisted. “I’ll double down on it. This war on women is a fiction that the Democrats have created. And the real war on women is the war that this president has put forward on the American people by not following through on his promises, by having women disproportionately effected by the Obama economy.”

“How can you say that it’s a fiction, though, if you stand of the record of what the Republican Party has said and done?” Roberts wondered, noting that all of the remaining GOP presidential candidates had promised to eliminate funds for family planning and Republican-controlled state legislatures had pushed through 90 anti-abortion bills in 2011.

“Because it is a fiction, Thomas,” Priebus replied. “It’s a fiction because, number one, there is no war on women. … The fact of the matter is that the real war on women, the actual thing that I think most women in this country are most concerned about, which is a good job, a good family, being able to live the American dream, provide for your kids and your family, that war on women is being perpetrated by President Barack Obama.”

Republicans will repeat this lie ad nauseum until it becomes fact, and they will do so in the most illogical manner possible.  Notice how Priebus cannot respond to Roberts’s question, so he simply restates the premise: “How can I say the war on women is fiction?  Because the war on women is fiction, that’s how!” Oh, tautology! Thine infinite majesty!

When Roberts forces the issue, and points out that Republicans took the government to the brink of disaster in a failed effort to defund Planned Parenthood, Priebus makes light of it:

“You can’t discount the fact that we almost took the government to the brink of closing Planned Parenthood,” Thomas pressed.

“The world will continue,” the RNC chairman quipped. “I don’t buy your argument. I happen to believe that you can be pro-women and pro-life. You don’t. That’s the problem, Thomas.”

And with that final statement, Priebus lays bare his and the GOP’s utter mendacity. Most assuredly, you can be pro-women and pro-life. You cannot, however, imprison women for decisions they make about their own bodies and call yourself pro-women. You cannot restrict access to life-saving healthcare for women and call yourself pro-women. You cannot repeal equal pay laws and call yourself pro-women. You cannot redefine rape and call yourself pro-women. You cannot call women sluts and prostitutes and call yourself pro-women. You cannot mandate that women undergo medically unnecessary vaginal probes and call yourself pro-women. You cannot strip women of the right to bodily autonomy by claiming that women consented “to be vaginally penetrated when they got pregnant” and call yourself pro-women. And you sure as hell cannot compare women to pigs and cows and call yourself pro-women.

No, Mr. Priebus. When you are the chair of  the political party attempting to submit women, women’s health, and women’s bodies to tyrannical rule by the state (small government!), you’re not being pro-women — you’re waging a war on women. Period.

And, as MSNBC contributor Krystal Ball points out below, you may have liked it better when women weren’t paying attention, but we’re paying attention now:

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We will not be distracted. We will not be silenced. And you can take your war on caterpillars and shove it directly up your own ass.

Semper uteri.

[cross-posted at The Raw Story-ABLC]
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  1. 1.

    Martin

    April 11, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    True. If there was a war on women, he’d be standing his ground, not doubling down. Know your bumper stickers, people.

  2. 2.

    butler

    April 11, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Reminds me a lot of Baghdad Bob.

  3. 3.

    S. cerevisiae

    April 11, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    Righteous rant ABL! These people are so tone-deaf and they don’t even realize it.

  4. 4.

    kc

    April 11, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    It’s fiction because SHUT UP, THAT’S WHY!!

  5. 5.

    danimal

    April 11, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    And you sure as hell cannot compare women to pigs and cows and call yourself pro-women.

    Well, to be fair, Prince Reibus (sp?) wasn’t comparing women to pigs and cows.

    Just caterpillars.

  6. 6.

    WereBear

    April 11, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    They do this, and get away with it, like the small businessman who was just on TV saying Newt Gingrich is stiffing him for 8k; but he’s still going to vote for him!

    With voters like that, how can you screw up?

  7. 7.

    nwithers

    April 11, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Speaking of bumper stickers, here’s a classic that should be used.

    “Hey Women! Republicans think you are STUPID.”

  8. 8.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    April 11, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    @Martin: Who needs bumper stickers when you can just spout tautologies? Because I said so.shut up, that’s why.

    My head hurts from their mendacity.

  9. 9.

    amk

    April 11, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    @WereBear: Yup. Before this kerfuffle, 50% white wimmin were for mittbot. The rethug party survives since amurika has an abundance of stupid voters.

  10. 10.

    The Thin Black Duke

    April 11, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    @nwithers: Problem is, too many of these brain-dead women will vote for these dirtbag Republicans anyway. Money in the bank.

  11. 11.

    chrome agnomen

    April 11, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    these people are going DOWN in november. and will continue to go down. they just do not have a winning policy on anything, for anybody, except, of course, the 1%.

  12. 12.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 11, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    @nwithers: And yet 15-20 million women will vote for Romney in November.

  13. 13.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    April 11, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    Preibus knows very well how the Republicans can win everything 4evar – just like they did in 2010: become constantly more stupid and angry.

  14. 14.

    General Stuck

    April 11, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Republicans understand propaganda, and always have, due to their policies only benefiting a few citizens atop the wealth totem poll. If they told the truth, they couldn’t get elected dog catchers. But not in my lifetime have the lies become so malignant coming from the pieholes of conservative republicans.

    They seem to be all in, and in lockstep for weaving a completely alternate reality. Not just when they want to do something like invade Iraq for no good reason, or give tax cuts to the wealthy. but all day every day, just because.

    I think maybe they have deluded themselves that they can get away with anything, that is faith based with their mighty wingnut wurlitzer will spread the lies to and fro, and save the day. It has become the sum total of their political and campaign strategy.

    And swarming like mad blow flies, attacking anyone who holds their hand up for an obvious question. I don’t think it will work, and if it does, will give testament to the end of any semblance of good faith policking and voting on actual issues, rather than tribal war dancing.

  15. 15.

    Yutsano

    April 11, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Becuz of the bebehs. Dirty hippies and libruls. Also. Too.

  16. 16.

    nwithers

    April 11, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: @The Thin Black Duke:

    Just calling a spade a spade for those who will vote to have themselves put in apron-chains, no helping them, and no point not offending their delicate pearl-clutching feelings. For the rest, if it makes them think, and vote differently, then I think it’s a win.

  17. 17.

    Turgidson

    April 11, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I’m pretty sure their brain trust’s thought process is something like: “hey, we’ve duped this stupid country into believing even crazier shit just by repeating a snappy lie a few million times. Remember Iraq? LOL we snookered em good that time! Let’s do it again!”

    Fortunately the fairer sex is paying close attention to this, wont be so easily distracted, and i think they will deliver for us all on election day. Go ladies go!

  18. 18.

    Redshift

    April 11, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    Steve Benen over at Maddowblog has the full rundown, but there’s a Keystone Kops flavor to the sequence of:

    – RNC PR BS telling women that it’s all a fabrication of the media because they’ve reported on what Republicans actually did

    – Priebus sending out his (male) underling to tell women that again

    – Romney saying that it’s all fiction, but he’ll send his wife to talk to women for him

    – Romney having (male) surrogates insist that there’s nothing to it

    But the topper for me is their constant repeating that it’s a distraction because women really only care about the economy (and are only capable of caring about one thing, apparently.) This is the most hilarious because it depends on the idea that of course everyone knows that Republicans are better for the economy, when a) they’re not, and b) finally most people know they’re not.

    “Really, they’re just bringing up this issue where we really suck to distract from this other issue where we really suck! Yeah, that’s the ticket!”

  19. 19.

    Felanius Kootea

    April 11, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    Dear Reince, effected != affected. Also too women have brains and can look at what Republican state legislatures are doing to damage women’s health across the country. Those Republican actions speak louder than any words Democrats could utter. And they’re fucking deafening right now. Nice try though.

  20. 20.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    They are on the D and struggling. GJ all.

  21. 21.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Seriously, when was the last time this discussion happened on the terms of liberals and feminists in the United States

    The Right can’t frame the debate here and without that advantage they have nothing; conservatives are poor debaters in general and what skills they had have utterly atrophied since the rise of Murdoch

    Keep pushing and keep pushing hard; you just found a serious weakness that the press seems to be happy to run with

  22. 22.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 11, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @Yutsano: 30 million women voted for McCain/Palin, so I think Romney will get 25 million easy.

  23. 23.

    muddy

    April 11, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    He’s making Michael Steele look like the best Republican Committee chair ever.

  24. 24.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @Redshift:

    But the topper for me is their constant repeating that it’s a distraction because women really only care about the economy (and are only capable of caring about one thing, apparently.)

    They have been running this game since Gingrich’s House in 1994 at least, Norquist refined it and Rove perfected it

    If I had to put my finger on exactly why it’s beginning to falter it’s because absolutely nothing Mitt Romney ever does will make the press see him as anyone but the guy who’s going to buy their outlet and fire them; they can’t play the narcissistic “please like me rich kid” games they did with Bush

    There will be no fun on the Mitt bus this year, not to mention he has been totally sandbagged going in by his own party and so has been forced to make this about a lot of unsexy Puritan bullshit . . . and suddenly a lot more talking heads are entertaining propaganda from liberals on an equal footing, for the first time in almost twenty years

    This will die down promptly if Mitt Romney is elected so I suggest everyone take advantage of it now if you don’t want that to happen; right now Obama remains the default ‘hip’ position and so liberals’ attacks will be spread far and wide by the cocktail junkies in the nat’l press

    Prime your best lines with “War on Women” as a template; then, search and destroy

  25. 25.

    danielx

    April 11, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    Hey, they don’t believe Ronald Reagan raised taxes more times than any other president in American history, either. Even when shown the relevant legislative citations they still don’t believe it. They know what they know, and ain’t any pointy headed intellectual “facts” gonna convince them any different.

  26. 26.

    Hill Dweller

    April 11, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Jon Stewart is on my TV right now telling me both sides are the same. Romney’s accusations are just as valid as the Dems’ accusations.

  27. 27.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Here’s a guilt-free prediction that I totally won’t mind if I get wrong: I think David Brooks will again endorse Obama because Brooks is far more concerned with what History will think of David Brooks’s Great and Frosted Asshole than he is with making a lick of goddamned sense

  28. 28.

    The Thin Black Duke

    April 11, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    O.K., I don’t understand women who vote Republican.

    Then again, I don’t understand Michael Steele and Log Cabin Republicans either.

    Don’t get me wrong, the Democrats haven’t been knights in shining armor either.

    Still, in a sane universe, choosing between Obama and Romney shouldn’t be that difficult.

    It’s like choosing between having a migraine or having your brain eaten by zombies.

    And yet, in spite of the Republicans trying as hard as they can to make “The Handmaiden’s Tale” a reality in this country, it still won’t make a damned bit of difference to tens of millions of deluded women who think misogynist assholes like Limbaugh or Santorum or Preibus aren’t really serious.

    WTF?

    It reminds me of that classic Richard Pryor joke where his wife catches him in bed with another woman and Richard says, “Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?”

  29. 29.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    @The Thin Black Duke:

    Well what women do support the Republicans are apparently defecting in droves and I don’t think Romney has enough time to recapture most of them before the election; it’s my wild guess that with the new numbers at least some of those defectors are not fence-sitting idiots and are genuinely reexamining their own beliefs, which have to be under constant strain anyway for the reasons you outline

  30. 30.

    slag

    April 11, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Most assuredly, you can be pro-women and pro-life.

    No. You can’t. At least not if you’re defining “pro-life” in the terms in which the “pro-life” movement defines itself. Inherently, the “pro-life” movement position subordinates the woman to the fetus. That’s not pro-woman in any respect.

  31. 31.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    IMO Romney/Rove have also made a severe miscalculation by assuming that women who defect from the Republican party can be made as angry with a bunch of obviously bullshitty jobs rhetoric as the ‘independent’ men that Rove has used to squeak by in previous races

    The men in question – men who vote but don’t have established political beliefs behind their vote – are, in my limited experience, self-centered oddballs who figure that they could do anybody’s job if given half a chance (including climate scientists’ jobs, etc.)

    Thus, “we need to make rich people want to hire you” plays well in that crowd

    Something makes me doubt that women in the center will react the same way

  32. 32.

    handy

    April 11, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    What’s the over-under on one of these toads using the phrase “Sugartits” in a speech? Too bad Santorum didn’t stay in a little longer. I was looking forward to him referring to Hillary or Pelosi as a “cuh” or “bih”

  33. 33.

    jl

    April 11, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @efgoldman:

    ” The gender gap is currently +19 Dem, one of the largest ever measured. And it is because women are really pissed off – and the Dem campaign is going to constantly remind them why ”

    And looks like the GOP plans to repeatedly remind them why too, if these Priebus and Mitt performances are any guide.

    Thomas brought up very recent history on the GOP and Planned Parenthood, and PP has between a 60 and 80 percent approval rating depending on how you ask the question.

    And Priebus’ decided to blow snot in resposne.

    Keep it up GOP. Fine with me.

  34. 34.

    slag

    April 11, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    Jon Stewart is on my TV right now telling me both sides are the same. Romney’s accusations are just as valid as the Dems’ accusations.

    Every time I see someone make this claim, I then watch the Daily Show clip in question, and invariably, the claim is largely untrue. We’ll see if your claim is the rule-breaker.

  35. 35.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Then again, this is all parsimoniously explained as something to tell that same demographic of ‘independent’ men so they can get more of that sweet sweet “y’know, people on the left are the REAL racists” they so crave

    I mean, clearly that line does not work and will never work on the vast majority of non-whites and that is not who the line is ‘for’

    So quite probably this line, too, is for those who posture as iconoclasts so they can deal with the contradictions that are inherent to their oppression

  36. 36.

    jl

    April 11, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    @AA+ Bonds:

    Another problem is that the ‘women worry about the economy’ response makes no sense to any person who has to operate on anyting near median income.

    Working people know that deciding to have, or deciding the timing of having a kid is a huge financial decision which consequences that last for over two decades. So, what compares to that… buying a house? Not antyhning else I can think of until retirement decisions loom.

    People know that they cannot do much about the macroeconomy, whether they are registered Dems or GOP, and no matter how they individually vote.

    They can, now, take the decision to have, or properly time kids, and know that they have access to reproductive care to preserve the mother’s and the children’s health. But what individual power and autonomy ordinary folks have now in this important decision, the GOP very recently made a big fuss about taking away, for BS reasons.

  37. 37.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    @slag:

    Liberals need to get the fuck over Jon Stewart; all you need to do is look at his tepid semi-rally vs. Occupy and what has worked for the left for the last twelve months to understand why

    He entertains liberals because he is porn for liberals – he is not going to give you the rhetoric you need to win, because that almost always comes from the left

  38. 38.

    Hill Dweller

    April 11, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    @slag: They redeemed themselves with the correspondent piece on the Oklahoma personhood bill.

    But the first segment was Broderesque. Instead of pointing out Romney’s hypocrisy and childish ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue’ defense, Stewart’s analogy for the dueling war on women and Romneycare/Obamacare accusations was ‘going to war with the same cannonball’.

  39. 39.

    Joseph Nobles

    April 11, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    @butler: Bagdad Preibus! That’s a keeper.

  40. 40.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 11, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    @efgoldman: Women went 56-43 for Obama over McCain. If they go 65-35 for Obama over Romney and turnout stays roughly the same, that’s 25 million. So in November when you’re out and about you’ll be able to conclude that roughly one in every six women you encounter will have actually cast her ballot for Romney.

  41. 41.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    @jl:

    I am super glad that people are still willing to frame control over pregnancy as an advance instead of a tragedy; a bunch of DLCers got it in their heads that the best way to defend this technology was to present it as some sort of evil that we all must bear, and that’s why a woman raped by her father in Missouri now has to travel across state lines to see a doctor

  42. 42.

    jl

    April 11, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    I don’t worry about Stewart. He is a comedian with a funny comedy show. Stewart’s periodic centrist knee jerks don’t have much impact in themselves, but only if there is a convincing point behind it, and I think there rarely is.

    Colbert has more impact on his own, apart from his individual skits. He has created something more like a movement.

  43. 43.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    Stewart’s analogy for the dueling war on women and Romneycare/Obamacare accusations was ‘going to war with the same cannonball’.

    See, this is exactly the bullshit I am talking about and you can’t blame Stewart for going for the wacky Looney Tunes laugh line over the truth of the situation

    It’s just that when you hit the streets you might want to go with the truth, which is not funny and is in fact pretty fucking enraging

    Which in turn means you can’t count on Jon Stewart for anything, really

    I believe Stewart has said this, many times

  44. 44.

    slag

    April 11, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    @jl:

    Another problem is that the ‘women worry about the economy’ response makes no sense to any person who has to operate on anyting near median income.

    Seriously. How demeaning is it for Republicans, of all people, to be telling women what they’re thinking? And to demonstrate such ignorance in the process just exacerbates the indignity.

    You might as well say, “You’re overreacting” to a pissed off woman. If you get any response more gentle than, “Fuck off, asshole”, someone’s feeling very generous that day.

  45. 45.

    Cacti

    April 11, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    And the guy who knows what women care about is the one whose church was founded by a polygamous skirt chaser, bars women from its priesthood, and teaches that they are “primarily responsible for the nuture of their children” (see “The Family: A Proclamation to the World”).

    Romney 2012!

  46. 46.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 11, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    @slag:

    I’m not sure that this rhetoric is for women at all as I talk through it

    Is “Democrats are really the ones who are bad for black people” rhetoric for black people? Or is it for white people who want to feel excited instead of shamed for voting Republican

  47. 47.

    jl

    April 11, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @AA+ Bonds: IMHO opinion, a lot the Village and DCers don’t know much about the real world, for some reaons, even if some of them did have working class backgrounds. Perhaps the swift and easy transition from HS through college (provided by gummint, BTW) to upper middle class incomes to riches by early middle age sheltered them from the economic facts of life.

    They seem to me to intellectually and emotionally operate in a 50s sitcom world. The are retarded in some ways.

    There was no abortion, no birth control, no broken families, no frustrated dads lighting out for the territories, and consequently abaondoned single moms having to make do, before the 1960s? Really? How ignorant.

    Yes, it was more dangerous, less effective, the broken families husehd up and disgguised.

    God knows how many single fathers had to make do because so many women died young back in the day. Which lead to extended families.

    And they think all that is new, because hippies, birth control, womens movement. It is silly. I think average people know more about real iife in thie area than our Very Serious People do. That is why it is harder to BS them about it than stuff about brown peple across town living on welfare, and ginormous foreign aid causing the deficits.

  48. 48.

    jl

    April 11, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    @slag:

    ” Seriously. How demeaning is it for Republicans, of all people, to be telling women what they’re thinking? ”

    On some issues relating to personal values and attitudes in intimate life, it is very difficult to hide how you really think. IMHO, that is the trap the GOP is falling into.

  49. 49.

    Brachiator

    April 11, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    @danielx:

    Hey, they don’t believe Ronald Reagan raised taxes more times than any other president in American history, either. Even when shown the relevant legislative citations they still don’t believe it. They know what they know, and ain’t any pointy headed intellectual “facts” gonna convince them any different.

    You can easily confuse people with arcane discussions about the economy. But it is easy to see what is going on when your insurance company decides it is no longer paying for your birth control, or when states seek to pass laws giving employers the right to question you about your sex life. It is easy to see what is going on when you have used Planned Parenthood services, and Mitt declares that he is going to destroy the organization. It is easy to see what is going on when states pass laws mandating invasive procedures designed to humiliate you, degrade you, or intimidate you on the pretext of trying to force you to change your mind about getting an abortion. It’s easy to see what is going on when there is an endless parade of men appearing on tv or on government panels telling you what women are supposed to think about reproductive rights issues. It’s easy to see what is going on when Rush gets on the radio and tells women, including conservative women, that they, their daughters and their granddaughters are sluts. It is easy to see what is going on when GOP presidential candidates insist that a pregnancy that results from a rape is a blessing that a woman should quietly accept.

    It’s easy for anyone, except the Republican leadership, to see what is going on.

  50. 50.

    slag

    April 11, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    @Hill Dweller: I see your point. And I may agree with it when all is said and done. Jon Stewart goes for the low-hanging fruit more often than I would like, in general. I can’t imagine thinking to myself that what the world needs now is another dick joke.

    And while I agree with AA+ that JS won’t ever be truly subversive, I do think he has cred in the Village. And because of that responsibility, I sometimes wish he’d be more incisive in his work. However, incisiveness is inversely correlated with Village credibility. Consequently, I may give a little more leeway than I should knowing that he’s walking a fairly fine line.

  51. 51.

    slag

    April 12, 2012 at 12:00 am

    @AA+ Bonds: Good point.

  52. 52.

    nellcote

    April 12, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Idaho Woman Arrested For Abortion Is Uneasy Case For Both Sides

  53. 53.

    Cacti

    April 12, 2012 at 12:09 am

    I’m loving the fact that the GOP is completely playing defense on this one.

    Grabbing my popcorn for when we get to the forced ultrasound bills and the multiple state-level GOPers who championed them comparing women to barnyard animals.

  54. 54.

    RalfW

    April 12, 2012 at 12:11 am

    Awesome post, ABL.

    This rant, which I hesitate to even call a rant because it is so factual and measured – but its’ so clarion-clear in its anger too – this rant is a thing to behold.

    “You cannot, however, imprison women for decisions they make about their own bodies and call yourself pro-women. You cannot restrict access to life-saving healthcare for women and call yourself pro-women. You cannot repeal equal pay laws and call yourself pro-women….”

    Amen.

  55. 55.

    David Koch

    April 12, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Jon Stewart has a faction of Steven Colbert’s talent and courage.

  56. 56.

    nellcote

    April 12, 2012 at 12:16 am

    @AA+ Bonds:

    serious weakness that the press seems to be happy to run with

    Post Komen, even Andrea Mitchell seems to have rediscovered her inner feminist.

  57. 57.

    JasonF

    April 12, 2012 at 12:27 am

    I’m pro-caterpillar and I vote.

  58. 58.

    RalfW

    April 12, 2012 at 12:42 am

    @AA+ Bonds:

    Jon Stewart is an entertainer. Not in the Limbaugh bullshit sense that that term was used to try – moronically – to excuse his woman-hating. But in the sense that Jon Stewart in effect does topical stand-up.

    He does it behind a desk that looks kinda like CNN, so maybe its confusing.

    But his show is humor. It is not the Democratic party’s platform show. Or a show meant to save libruls from themselves. Or the TV equivalent of a set of liberal blogs that will change the course of political history.

    He is not going to give you the rhetoric you need to win, because … he’s a comedian doing a bit on a show. Jeebus.

  59. 59.

    Yutsano

    April 12, 2012 at 12:57 am

    @nellcote: See? Both sides DO do it!

  60. 60.

    gwangung

    April 12, 2012 at 1:03 am

    @Cacti:

    I’m loving the fact that the GOP is completely playing defense on this one.

    I’m not sure there’s such a thing as playing too much offense on this topic.

  61. 61.

    RadioOne

    April 12, 2012 at 1:31 am

    The whole idea seems to be to lie, spend hundreds of millions of dollars on Super Pacs spreading the lie, and just hoping the media won’t care. Seems like the best bet for the GOP, to be honest. The media certainly won’t care.

  62. 62.

    Elizabelle

    April 12, 2012 at 1:50 am

    @David Koch:

    Agreed, I think. If you meant “fraction” rather than “faction.”

    The student has eclipsed the master.

  63. 63.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 12, 2012 at 1:52 am

    @RalfW:

    He is not going to give you the rhetoric you need to win, because … he’s a comedian doing a bit on a show. Jeebus.

    It seems you, me and Jon Stewart are in agreement

    Now if liberals could only get over it when people rag on the lukewarm pablum his writers prepare for the dorm rooms we’d be set

  64. 64.

    AA+ Bonds

    April 12, 2012 at 1:55 am

    @jl:

    There was no abortion, no birth control, no broken families, no frustrated dads lighting out for the territories, and consequently abaondoned single moms having to make do, before the 1960s? Really? How ignorant.

    It’s little after this time, but I always find Crichton’s A Case of Need interesting as pulp fiction from the years that layer got peeled back

    Not a good book in any way but part of a good history lesson, as an example

    Oh, and

    Perhaps the swift and easy transition from HS through college (provided by gummint, BTW) to upper middle class incomes to riches by early middle age sheltered them from the economic facts of life.

    I’d almost guarantee this; it certainly is my explanation for how normal kids I knew ended up mimicking psychopathic behavior in the financial sector

  65. 65.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    April 12, 2012 at 2:18 am

    “When I grow up, I want to be a principal, or a caterpillar. I love you, principal Skinner” – Reince Priebus Ralph Wiggum

  66. 66.

    Frankensteinbeck

    April 12, 2012 at 2:59 am

    @AA+ Bonds:
    I’m worried – not certain, but worried – that STEWART has forgotten he’s just a comedian. His Obama interview was one of the most head-up-his-own-ass displays I’ve ever seen, ragging Obama relentlessly for not delivering change, which Stewart would ONLY accept defined as a change in the partisan bickering tone of Washington. His cheap jokes very often rely on ignorant gut-reaction reasoning that a lot of people actually think is true, and I get the horrible itchy feeling he’s perpetuating venomous lies.

    This stuff bugs me, but at the same time he’s a comedian, he’s said he’s a comedian, and comedians make cheap jokes. I should just let it go. It can be hard, sometimes.

  67. 67.

    Elizabelle

    April 12, 2012 at 3:11 am

    @nellcote:

    Terribly sad story, all around.

    Using RU-486 at maybe 20 weeks. Probably more stories like this out there.

    She says she didn’t realize she was so far along. Maybe true, maybe denial.

    Viability’s about 26 weeks.

  68. 68.

    Elizabelle

    April 12, 2012 at 3:16 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Stewart makes me uneasy too sometimes. Yes, he’s a comedian but also considered a “trusted source of news”, given our ridiculous MSM. So his audience might suspend the filter for some of his more dubious routines.

    I can’t think of anytime Colbert has disappointed me. He is both smarter and more principled, IMHO. More passionate about responsibility for a fairer society, too. Immigration, campaign finance.

    That said, we are lucky to have both.

  69. 69.

    Kane

    April 12, 2012 at 3:48 am

    The notion that women don’t care about contraception because they care about jobs and family is ridiculous. Contraception is a family issue. Contraception is a jobs issue. Contraception is an economic issue. Contraception is a health issue.

    Somewhere along the way republicans got it in their heads that contraception is all about sex. It’s not.

  70. 70.

    satby

    April 12, 2012 at 7:27 am

    @Elizabelle: I have a 1 year old grandaughter who was born last year at 25 weeks gestational age. So with advances, viability has dropped to about 24 weeks. But if birth control and especially if abortion were more available and less stigmatized by the godbotherers very few unwanted pregnancies would go that long. The roadblocks the anti-choice crowd put up actually delay abortions by weeks for many women.

  71. 71.

    satby

    April 12, 2012 at 7:27 am

    @Elizabelle: I have a 1 year old grandaughter who was born last year at 25 weeks gestational age. So with advances, viability has dropped to about 24 weeks. But if birth control and especially if abortion were more available and less stigmatized by the godbotherers very few unwanted pregnancies would go that long. The roadblocks the anti-choice crowd put up actually delay abortions by weeks for many women.

  72. 72.

    chopper

    April 12, 2012 at 7:36 am

    there is no war on women. … The fact of the matter is that the real war on women,

    LOL, this guy can’t tell if his talking points are coming or going.

    mitt’s cratering with women and these dudes are freaking the fuck out.

  73. 73.

    El Cid

    April 12, 2012 at 7:47 am

    You had to see the Daily Show’s segment by Al Madrigal on the Oklahoma legislator (female) in response to the ‘personhood’ bill added an ‘every sperm is sacred’ amendment outlawing the spilling of sperm anywhere but in proper ladyparts. Including the male conservative legislator who opposes this because it’s government intruding upon a man’s choice as to what to do with his body. Madrigal’s response — wait, what?

  74. 74.

    gorram

    April 12, 2012 at 9:04 am

    @satby: “The roadblocks the anti-choice crowd put up actually delay abortions by weeks for many women.”

    Deliberately, because of the relative success they’ve had at banning abortions later in term. It’s the same reason why there’s been efforts to artificially increase the number of weeks women are counted as pregnant or find minor infractions as reasons to shut entire clinics down – they want to effectively make safe, local availability of abortion disappear, by any means necessary. This even includes death threats and violence, remember Scott Roeder?

  75. 75.

    jonas

    April 12, 2012 at 10:53 am

    To be fair, the Republicans have never targeted women — just sluts who use birth control or need an abortion or a free mammogram.

  76. 76.

    The Other Chuck

    April 12, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    I hope they never stop interviewing this guy. He’s doing more damage to the Republican brand than Michael Steele ever dreamed of.

  77. 77.

    Tone In DC

    April 12, 2012 at 12:09 pm

    @muddy:

    Now, that is damned frightening.

  78. 78.

    karen marie

    April 12, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    “You can’t discount the fact that we almost took the government to the brink of closing Planned Parenthood,” Thomas pressed.

    Wait, what? Is Thomas suggesting that he too is a Republican and that he was, up till now, gung ho for this effort?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

  79. 79.

    Chet

    April 12, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Lots of women out there are fine and dandy with the patriarchy, and plenty that aren’t are IGMFY types who figure they’ll always have the money and connections to get their abortions, so cut their taxes, dammit!

  80. 80.

    Citizen_X

    April 12, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    the real war on women, the actual thing that I think most women in this country are most concerned about, which is a good job, a good family, being able to live the American dream, provide for your kids and your family, that war on women is being perpetrated by President Barack Obama.

    Really, Priebus? Okay, then: WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU GUYS DONE ABOUT JOBS? Ever since the Tea Party election, the Republicans have been all about probes up the yinyang, and getting rid of the Near President (“number one priority,” right?). They haven’t done jack about unemployment.

  81. 81.

    Patricia Kayden

    April 12, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    The Dems need to talk about the Repub war on women every single day. Right up to and beyond the 2012 Presidential election. The Repubs need to own their actions.

  82. 82.

    TenguPhule

    April 12, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    Given that Republicans are also now going after equal pay for equal work, this doesn’t seem like the winningest argument for them to make.

  83. 83.

    Haydnseek

    April 12, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    This is vintage Priebus. He shows up on every talking-head show with the same schtick, and I have actually won small sums of money betting that he will bash Obama within ten seconds of uttering his first malignant word. Ask him the time of day, and he’ll tell you it’s time to get rid of the worst president in history. Tell him Obama had tacos for lunch, and within 2 hours a gaggle of house members (always from Texas or South Carolina) will want to bomb Mexico. Nobody, repeat NOBODY drives me to near apoplectic levels of foaming rage. There. I feel better. Not much, but a little…

  84. 84.

    DFH no.6

    April 12, 2012 at 2:22 pm

    @nellcote:
    Post Komen, even Andrea Mitchell seems to have rediscovered her inner feminist.
    I don’t know about that.

    Mrs. Greenspan always seems to twist herself around to avoid seeming as if she might agree with any actual liberal viewpoint.

    Case in point her horrible promo spot on MSNBC focusing on voter suppression where she says unnamed political “parties” are doing this, as if it wasn’t wholly a trumped-up Republican operation specifically intended to damage Democrats via disenfranchisement.

    I was watching when she interviewed Foster Friess early on in the media coverage of “the war” and he made his clueless “back in my day girls just put an aspirin between their knees” comment regarding contraception, and Mrs. Greenspan reacted visibly shocked and even momentarily speechless.

    But, good Villager that she is, she quickly “recovered” and certainly didn’t respond with anything remotely “feminist” in reaction to him. I would have expected any self-respecting woman (no matter how “inner” her feminism may be) to have gotten medieval on the evil and misogynistic old fuck.

    So no, I’m pretty certain that Mrs. Greenspan is still, first and foremost, Mrs. Greenspan. Not counting on any help from her.

  85. 85.

    Tone In DC

    April 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    In the midst of the worst recession in over 70 years, these brain donors come out against equal pay for equal work (what, the law makes the US uncompetitive). So, in short order, aren’t some particularly right wing employers gonna announce wage freezes and/or pay cuts?

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

    The 2008 presidential election was the biggest landslide in decades. I think Priebus and his zombie minions are trying to make 2012 an even bigger BHO win.

  86. 86.

    g

    April 12, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    If job loss has had a greater impact on women, it’s probably due to the elimination of jobs like teachers and health care workers that have been implemented by Republican state legislators.

  87. 87.

    tybee

    April 12, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @JasonF:

    good bumper sticker material.

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