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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Stupid Republican Tricks: Rep. Todd Akin Means to Impeach the Usurper-in-Chief

Stupid Republican Tricks: Rep. Todd Akin Means to Impeach the Usurper-in-Chief

by Anne Laurie|  April 12, 20124:19 pm| 66 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Assholes, I wish a motherfucker would!

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I hear they call the state “Misery” because of elected officials like this guy:

Why hasn’t Congress impeached President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder? Rep. Todd Akin says it’s simply a lack of votes. But he says that may change eventually…
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“I think some of the thought was, he’s coming up at this point for election and the best way to impeach him is the ballot box,” Akin said. “So I think that’s the thought, because you’re never going to get something through the Senate. That doesn’t mean that at a certain point you just say enough, I don’t care enough about the Senate, duty calls us to just get up and just impeach this guy. And maybe he’s not quite gotten to the point where you’ve got the Republicans — basically all the Republican bloc is not quite mad enough for that.”
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Still, Akin said he had plenty of relevant concerns: Obama, he said, “ignores the Constitution, he ignores the laws, he wants to impose all of the czars, he completely ignores the train wreck of the economy, which he’s causing with trillion-dollar-plus deficits every year you go along.”
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He concluded the quicker way to remove Obama from office would be to wait for the election to run its course.

“He is a complete menace to our civilization,” he said. “The question is what’s the best way to get rid of him, I think probably at the ballot box next election, we need to get that done.”…

From his Wikipedia entry, Akin is the bog-standard Tea Party Talibangelical legislator — loves weapons, hates women, fervently believes that science should begin and end with the stuff he studied in his management engineering classes, and of course still making use of his Master of Divinity:

In late June 2011, Akin was discussing NBC’s recent removal of the words “under God” from a video clip of the Pledge of Allegiance. Akin told radio host Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council that:

Well, I think NBC has a long record of being very liberal, and at the heart of liberalism really is a hatred for God and a belief that government should replace God…. This is a systematic effort to try to separate our faith and God, which is a source in our belief in individual liberties, from our country. And when you do that you tear the heart out of our country.

Two days later, Akin said in a radio interview there he would not apologize, since he meant that not all liberals hate God, only that liberals have “a hatred for public references for God.” The next day, he said:

People who know me and my family know that we take our faith and beliefs very seriously. As Christians, we would never question the sincerity of anyone’s personal relationship with God. My statement during my radio interview was directed at the political movement, Liberalism, not at any specific individual. If my statement gave a different impression, I offer my apologies.

(via Charles Pierce at Esquire)

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  1. 1.

    dr. bloor

    April 12, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Crazy Guy is crazy. Knock me over with a feather.

    Someone should tell him impeachment would have been a done deal a long time ago if the 70+ commies in Congress didn’t keep rigging votes.

  2. 2.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    April 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    Yup, he comes outta the same mold as just about every Repup here in Misery.

    The thing is, don’t discount his chances in the fall assuming he gets past equally whackadoodle Sarah Steeleman.

    Risk adverse Blanche McCaskill (as Charlie Pierce accurately describes her “I Feel Strongly Both Ways”) is in a world of hurt here. She’s *really* pissed off the base over the last 5 years, so much so that you even have crawl-over-glass Dems like me who are struggling with their vote. Yeah, I’ll pull the lever for her but she won’t get the kind of money from people she got last time and the Repups and the SuperPACS will flood this state with dollars after they settle the nomination.

    She won the first time mainly as the “I’m Not Him” candidate with a huge monetary boost from the national party.

    And this state is far redder now than it was just 4 years ago. The Prez won’t carry Misery and that will bleed over into Blanche’s race.

    Sigh, another batshit, insane wingnut from Misery in the Senate come January 2013.

  3. 3.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    April 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    a systematic effort to try to separate our faith and God

    __
    Actually, your “faith” (so-called) parted company with God a long time ago, and you did that all by yourself, asshole. A liberal view of the proper relationship between theology and society is nothing but the ambulance which shows up at the scene of the suicide to haul the body away before it starts stinking so badly that it becomes a public health menace.

  4. 4.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    @comrade scott’s agenda of rage:

    And this state is far redder now than it was just 4 years ago

    Is the state redder, or just the White House darker?

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    The Czar thing again? I laughed out loud when the FoxBlonde who studied at Oxford pretended she didn’t know what a czar was until Obama used the word (I’ll save all you poor louts the effort of googling. It means “King”!) thinking that even their audience would be offended by the condescension. I think I actually overestimated the average Fox-watcher. Like this guy.

    First Vicki Hartzler now this guy? Hell of a week for Missouri. And apparently Claire McCaskill is the best the state can produce? Harry Truman and Mark Twain are weeping somewhere.

  6. 6.

    PeakVT

    April 12, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    he wants to impose all of the czars

    Whatever, moron.

  7. 7.

    LAC

    April 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @Veritas:

    Which they will promptly ignore while they go get snacks. Go back to sleep…

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 12, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Really, we need to seriously consider building arenas where lions can feast on the corpses of idiots like this.

  9. 9.

    KG

    April 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: nah, he just likes the Old Testament God… you know the one that would rain down fire and brimstone on whole cities because a couple of guys came on to some angels, or who would kill all the first born sons of an entire country because he wouldn’t let people go, or who would destroy everything a man loved because of a bet with the devil. That’s the God these people like.

    Not the God who, as Lewis Black once said, calmed down after having a kid.

  10. 10.

    rlrr

    April 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Todd Akin is pretty stupid even when compared with other Missouri Republicans…

  11. 11.

    priscianusjr

    April 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    Actually, your “faith” (so-called) parted company with God a long time ago, and you did that all by yourself, asshole. A liberal view of the proper relationship between theology and society is nothing but the ambulance which shows up at the scene of the suicide to haul the body away before it starts stinking so badly that it becomes a public health menace.

    Hey, we need more writers like you. Beautiful, just beautiful.

  12. 12.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    April 12, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Living here in red, rurl (un)Real ‘Murka, aka Misery, where Appalachia Is A State Of Mind, yeah, I never discount the racism angle in all of this.

    That being said, the President only narrowly lost here last time and my prediction this time around is that he’ll lose handily. For all I know he won’t dump the kind of resources here he did last time, thus, it could be an apples and oranges comparison.

    I do know that the state Dem party is a wreck and that prominent candidates like McCaskill pretty much have to run things entirely on their own.

    Rurl Dems here are a different breed. First, they want to be asked for their vote. She did that in her Senate race unlike when she ran for Governor and lost. She’ll campaign like she did in 06. Second, rurl Dems want a politician with spine and she’s well known for her waffling and generally scared shitless of the right attitude toward any issue that she thinks will rile up the Repup base here. As such, she’s viewed as spineless.

    Right now her only chance is that Akin and Steeleman are able to be widely portrayed as soo far out of the mainstream that the 5.67 independent voters in the state will go with the puddle of goo they know rather than the nutzoids.

  13. 13.

    butler

    April 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: The National Zoo actually has a very nice Big Cat habitat for their lions and tigers. That could work.

  14. 14.

    japa21

    April 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Veritas: And watch Obama give interviews at half-time of football games and during the World Series. And unlike some politicians who pretend to know something about sports, he really does.

  15. 15.

    KG

    April 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @Veritas: there is no better way to piss off voters than to insert politics into sports. good luck with that…

    Oh, and how exactly is Romney going to obtain VICOTRY! when it looks like Obama is already starting out with about 300 votes in the electoral college?

  16. 16.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    If my statement gave a different impression, I offer my apologies.

    Ah, the non-apology apology.

    The only apology I’ll entertain from a slime mold like this guy is a Captain Needa apology.

  17. 17.

    Mark S.

    April 12, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    GET READY, LIBTARDS. ROMNEY IS ABOUT TO UNLEASH HIS TWO INCH PEN- UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH!

  18. 18.

    KG

    April 12, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    And what the hell are they going to impeach on? the Clinton impeachment was at least arguably logical – a case can be made that the president lying under oath in a civil trial undermines the legal system. But what, exactly, are the high crimes and misdemeanors here?

  19. 19.

    Mark S.

    April 12, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    @japa21:

    Mitt’s good friends with a lot of sports team owners.

  20. 20.

    Comrade Dread

    April 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    a systematic effort to try to separate our faith and God

    Yes, because your faith in Objectivism and Social Darwinism is incompatible with God.

  21. 21.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    April 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @KG:

    But what, exactly, are the high crimes and misdemeanors here?

    The black thing he’s got going for him. They could concoct something to at least vote on but it would all be a cover for all that BLACKNESS down thar on PA Avenooooo.

    Everybody overlooks the fact that impeachment is an inherently political act the two times it’s actually happened. If Nixon had not resigned, now that would have been an example of impeachment actually following the wording in the Constitution.

    Akin is simply a rank and file mouth breather so even if the Repups controlled both houses, they’d see the political suicide of impeaching two Dem presidents in a row. The Repup leadership aren’t braniacs but they’re not that stupid either.

  22. 22.

    dmsilev

    April 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @japa21:

    And unlike some politicians who pretend to know something about sports, he really does

    But Romney knows sports team owners! That’s got to count for something.

  23. 23.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 12, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    @KG:

    He’s a ni*CLANG*, or haven’t you noticed? Is there any other reason needed to impeach the guy? I mean, really?

  24. 24.

    Culture of Truth

    April 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    But what, exactly, are the high crimes and misdemeanors here?

    we’re adding jobs but at a less than very high rate res ipsa arble garble

  25. 25.

    Jay C

    April 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Really, we need to seriously consider building arenas where lions can feast on the corpses of idiots like this.

    What do you have against lions? You want to poison them?

    But SRSLY?:

    Obama, he said, “ignores the Constitution,

    HUH? Cite please?

    he ignores the laws

    Which ones?

    he wants to impose all of the czars

    Unlike, say, most US Presidents going back to Nixon’s Admin?

    he completely ignores the train wreck of the economy, which he’s causing with trillion-dollar-plus deficits every year you go along.”

    You mean the deficits occasioned by the last Bush Administration’s tax cut? Shall we take it as an indication that Rep. Akin is in favor of raising taxes to close the budget gap? Or is impeaching Pres. Obama somehow going to cause government revenues to skyrocket?

    Whatta maroon.

  26. 26.

    kindness

    April 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    I am so thankful for Charles Pierce & his presence on the web.

  27. 27.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 12, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    @Veritas:

    Two. Hundred. Million. JUST TO START.

    CASH! UNLIMITED CASH!

    (Veritas cackles maniacally as green lightning issues forth from his twisted, diseased fingers)

  28. 28.

    Surreal American

    April 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    I can’t be the only one who is amused that wingnuts constantly accuse Obama of being a Marxist while stating that he wants to impose czars on us.

    Russian history fail.

  29. 29.

    KG

    April 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    @Veritas: ask and ye shall receive… statewide polling for president

    Notice that Obama has been leading in Michigan pretty much all year, hasn’t trailed in Nevada for a year now, has been leading pretty consistently in Ohio and North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. And looks like Virginia is possibly in play.

    But end of the day, math doesn’t look great for Romney. Oh, and Dukakis and Kerry COMBINED ain’t half the politician that Obama is. And, funny the two examples you give are guys from Massachusetts.

  30. 30.

    Kathy in St. Louis

    April 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    This is my congressman, the worst in the House. What a loser.

  31. 31.

    kindness

    April 12, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    @KG: Clinton’s impeachment was not arguable. Sure he lied about adultery but that isn’t a high crime that rises to the level of impeachment.

    Don’t give them any credit when they don’t deserve it.

  32. 32.

    Surreal American

    April 12, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    @Kathy in St. Louis:

    This is my congressman, the worst in the House. What a loser.

    Considering that Steve King, Louie Gohmert and Allen West are in the running, that’s quite the accomplishment.

  33. 33.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    @Kathy in St. Louis:

    You have my sympathies. I often forget, as one of Peter DeFazio’s constituents, just how good I have it. Then I’m reminded by people who have to wear a paper bag over their heads when they say “This is my congressman”.

  34. 34.

    Comrade Dread

    April 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    HUH? Cite please?

    Obama has the gall to believe that the way to properly interpret the Constitution is through the 200+ years of legal precedents that have helped refine our interpretation of the document, you know, like everyone except the Objectivists and Neo-Confederates who would like us to return to the era of Nullification and Robber Barons.

    Basically, you have the self-appointed guardians of the Constitution who ignore SCOTUS, common law, and precedent and adhere to the holy divinely inspired text handed down through noted fundamentalist Christians Madison, Monroe, Jefferson, and Locke.

  35. 35.

    Arm The Homeless

    April 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    @comrade scott’s agenda of rage: I think statements assuming that any conservative ‘won’t go there’, are premature at least.

    I do always appreciate the inevitable facepalm from people like Frum when it does happen, though.

  36. 36.

    Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor

    April 12, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    …looks like Veritas has been de-Luxed.

  37. 37.

    rikyrah

    April 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    his crime…

    being President while BLACK

    Black
    BLack

    Blackedity

    Black
    Black

    Blackilicious

    Black

  38. 38.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    April 12, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    you know, i try to only hate christianity as a political movement, but dammit, they do make it so very hard.

    and not in a good way.

  39. 39.

    Chris

    April 12, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    ignores the Constitution, he ignores the laws, he wants to impose all of the czars, he completely ignores the train wreck of the economy

    I thought ignoring the economy was Conservatism 101 and was totally supposed to fix it.

  40. 40.

    patrick II

    April 12, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    This may be to obvious to point out, but Akin’s apology to “individuals” is meaningless.

    the heart of liberalism really is a hatred for God and a belief that government should replace God

    My statement during my radio interview was directed at the political movement, Liberalism, not at any specific individual.

    Isn’t this exactly backwards? Normally people apologize for accusing a group for something some of their individual members do. All teabaggers aren’t racist, although individual teabaggers are. All priests aren’t pedophiles, but some individuals are. All liberals don’t hate God — although some probably at least hate religion.

    If you condemn an entire group, you condemn each individual in it.

  41. 41.

    RalfW

    April 12, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Does this fucktard Akin not understand the job of Congress??

    “…he completely ignores the train wreck of the economy, which he’s causing with trillion-dollar-plus deficits every year you go along.”

    Hey, mo-fuckin-ron: Congress writes and passes budgets. Obama can’t spend a dime that Congress, were you WORK, you asshat, doesn’t appropriate.

    Fer cryin’ out loud, the stupid is epic.

  42. 42.

    Chris

    April 12, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Well, I think NBC has a long record of being very liberal, and at the heart of liberalism really is a hatred for God and a belief that government should replace God

    It must be a byproduct of the authoritarian mindset: they have this absolute mindblock against believing that anyone could ever come to the decision to simply not have a God (or a religion), so for decades on end they’ve been poring over liberal records looking for things that they think might be “the liberal God” or “the liberal religion.”

    According to Akin, “Government” is what liberals want to see replace God and religion. Other conservatives think it’s “the environment,” or “Darwin,” or “socialism,” or “secular humanism,” or simply old standbys like Satan or Allah. The one thing they simply will not believe is that someone somewhere might have just decided to drop religion and God and not replace them with anything. It’s inconceivable to them that anyone could do that.

  43. 43.

    David Koch

    April 12, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    IOKIYAR

  44. 44.

    Chris

    April 12, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @KG:

    But what, exactly, are the high crimes and misdemeanors here?

    Sending troops to Libya without asking for Congressional approval. If I had to bet, that’s what they’ll use to impeach him.

  45. 45.

    mclaren

    April 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    Eric Holder should be impeached and disbarred and sentenced to Life Without Parole for his grotesquely unconstitutional claim that killing an American citizen with a hellfire missile without even charging him with a crime constitutes “due process.”

    As Attorney General, Holder took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of the united states. He violated that oath when he tried to defend the grossly unconstitutional murder of a U.S. citizen who was never even tried or charged with a crime, and he further violated his oath when he aided and abetted that murder by falsely claiming that the extrajudicial assassination of a U.S. citizen involved any form of “due process.”

  46. 46.

    Steve in DC

    April 12, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    The only legal thing I could see them going with is killing an American without due process, I’m pretty sure that’s grounds to at least cause a scene. I don’t think they have because then Bush could be charged after for what he did. Due to the nature of the job they all commit various crimes.

    Keep in mind that Clinton was impeached over well, nothing really. But that’s how the game is played. The right will not accept a liberal president as legitimate.

  47. 47.

    jl

    April 12, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    @Steve in DC:

    ” Keep in mind that Clinton was impeached over well, nothing really. But that’s how the game is played. The right will not accept a liberal president as legitimate. ”

    I guess the teabaggers in Congress think it will turn out better for them this time if they impeach the president for what is viewed as a foreign policy success?

    I guess… (Edit: they are nuts)

  48. 48.

    kc

    April 12, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    “I’m sorry if my truthful words offended any God-hating liberals.”

  49. 49.

    Kathy in St. Louis

    April 12, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: No, he’s right….The craaaaaazies here in Missouri are getting crazier every day. Very angry aholes from St. Charles county south and west in all directions, with the exception of the state university town, and KC. Embarrassingly low information gawd fearin Gopers everywhere you look. This guy is the worst, well, maybe not the worst since Blunt is still breathing, but right up there with him. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him win and he is just a complete tool He’s my rep, and I think I’m on some sort of watch list, I’ve written him so often to let him know how worthless I think he is.

  50. 50.

    David Koch

    April 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Stupid Republican Tricks: Rep. Todd Akin Means to Impeach the Usurper-in-Chief

    Why is this stoopid? After all, Kucinich said Obama should be impeached. Both sides…

  51. 51.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 12, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    @Chris: Such a move would be cheered to the echo here.

  52. 52.

    AxelFoley

    April 12, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    Rep. Todd Akin

    Never heard of this asshole.

  53. 53.

    gocart mozart

    April 12, 2012 at 7:32 pm

    @Surreal American:
    Yeah, you would think that all of the commies in the Obama administration would have killed all of the Czars by now.

  54. 54.

    gocart mozart

    April 12, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    @mclaren:
    Step away from the keyboard mclaren and take a deap breath.

  55. 55.

    Elias

    April 12, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Brought to you by The Party of Personal Responsibility: It’s YOUR fault you didn’t understand that I meant something other than what I was saying.

  56. 56.

    Steve in DC

    April 12, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @jl

    It’s not about how good or how bad it works out for them, the GOP plays the long game. Norquist said we’d have a permanent conservative majority. He got called on that and it was pointed out that people might vote in a Democrat, and Norquist flat out said “but they won’t be able to govern like one”.

    That’s what this is about full stop. If a Democrat lands in office and does not enact the Republican agenda, they will get him out office and Demonize him. No matter the methods, no matter the cost.

    Norquist and real backers only care about the economic issues, they could give a rats ass about the gays and vaginas. But essentially any Democrat that does not engage in tax cutting, regulation slashing, eat the poor programs, will be removed. That’s where they stand.

  57. 57.

    Chris

    April 12, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @Steve in DC

    That’s going to have to come to a head sooner or later. Last time was in the New Deal years – lesson didn’t stick. But someone is eventually going to have to teach those fuckers that the federal government isn’t their private property.

  58. 58.

    AxelFoley

    April 12, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    @Steve in DC:

    GOP plays the long game, huh? That’s cool, because PBO plays the long game AND 11th dimensional chess.

    I’d think the GOP and PL would know that shit by now.

  59. 59.

    Steve in DC

    April 12, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    @Axel

    I’d care about 11th d chess if Obama was really playing it for the working class, instead of saying one thing to get elected and then doing another once in office.

    This isn’t to say Democrats are worse than Republicans, they aren’t. But Obama sure as shit isn’t an economic progressive and even went to GOP positons on items once he got in office. So he got played like a no talent ass clown by the GOP. Clinton did as well. Democrats enacting Republican policy and reforming Medicare and Welfare. They truly are suckers.

  60. 60.

    El Cruzado

    April 12, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    In case no one has posted this already, but it’s all I could think of when I read what the guy says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttjOqTW-8CA

  61. 61.

    David Koch

    April 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    @gocart mozart: he did, but Anastasia escaped.

  62. 62.

    mclaren

    April 13, 2012 at 12:42 am

    One of the really serious problems people who care about the constitution and the Bill of Rights and the basic rule of law being eroded day after day under both Republican and Democratic administrations (by lawless craziness like the War on Drugs, the Global War on Terror, the War on Copyright Infringement, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum) is the fact that the crazies on the right are now making such insane baseless charges against Obama and the Democrats that it’s become almost impossible to get anyone’s attention for the very real violations of the constitution that Democratic lawmakers and a Democratic president are engaged in on a massive scale.

    What kinds of gross systematic massive widespread violations of the constitution by Democrats am I talking about?

    [1] A Democratic president engaged in the most savage war against whistleblowers who reveal corruption and crime and thievery in our government. Obama has prosecuted more whistleblowers — and mind you, these are people who did things like revealed war crimes (Bradley Manning) and provided evidence of military contractors’ bribery — than the last 4 presidents put together. Think about it for just a minute: Bradley Manning, who revealed war crimes, is now in the same prison as a soldier accused of committing actual war crimes. So revealing the truth about American war crimes is now being prosecuted as seriously as committing the actual war crime. In fact, Bradley Manning was treated much worse during his initial incarceration than the soldier accused of committing war crimes got treated. The message seems clear. Under Democrats as well as Republicans, committing war crimes isn’t nearly as serious a crime as revealing them to the public.

    Gross violations of the first amendment right to freedom of speech, the fifth amendment requirement of due process, the eighth amendment that bans cruel and unusual punishment and the fourteenth amendment requiring that the citizen’s civil rights not be violated.

    [2] Under Obama, we’ve continued with secret laws and secret trials. Think about that. The TSA was sued and won the lawsuit, and it will not reveal under what criteria people are chosen for the “no-fly” list. And once you’re on that no-fly list, you can never be removed. EVER. There is no legal procedure, no bureaucratic method, for getting off the no-fly list. Once you’re on, you’re on it forever. Kids who were 3 years old when the no-fly list got started are now 13 years old, and they’re still on the no-fly list, and they can never get off it. And no one will explain why these 3-year-old kids were put on the no-fly list. These kids will grow old and die and they’ll still be on the no-fly list and no one can tell them why (It’s classified! It’s a secret! It’s national security!) and they can never be removed from the no-fly list, not by lawsuits, not by court order, nothing. Because the no-fly list is based on secret laws and that’s beyond the law. A judge can’t find out the law because it’s secret (national security) so he can’t even order the no-fly listing voided.

    But wait–it gets even worse. Under Obama, a Democratic president, the FAA has now refused to admit or deny that drones are being used domestically, or where they’re being used, or why. And under the NDAA, which authorizes the president to murder and kidnap American citizens, you can petition the government to tell you whether you’ve been targeted for murder or kidnapping…but the government won’t tell you. It’s secret! It’s classified! It’s national security!

    That’s the end of the rule of law, folks. Secret laws administered by secret courts whose verdict you can never see, ending with an order to assassinate U.S. citizens who have never been accused of a crime, or to place U.S. citizens on secret lists that prevent them from flying on an airplane FOREVER. And you can’t see the law. And you can’t hear the verdict of the secret court. Because it’s all classified!

    Gross fantastically egregious violations of the fifth amendment requiring due process and the sixth amendment right to a jury trial and the eighth amendment prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment (you can be kidnapped and locked up as a prisoner without a name in a cell without a number for ten or twenty or thirty years without even being charged with a crime under these kinds of secret laws, not to mention assassinated by order of a secret tribunal) and the fourteenth amendment.

    [3] There are no terrorists and no threat of terrorism in America, so the DHS has now abandoned searching for terrorists (because there aren’t any in America, and everyone has finally realized it) and now instead the DHS has turned into corporate copyright police and drug warriors. An increasingly large number of drug prosecutions are now based on evidence gathered from “no-knock” warrants which were originally intended to be used only against terrorists. A huge number of current drug prosecutions results from FISA-authorized cellphone intercepts conducted by the NSA under “national security” warrants misused to gather evidence against guys who are selling half an ounce of weed to a friend.

    So we’ve now got massive mission creep. Our domestic-anti-terror beauracracies are morphing before our eyes into corporate copyright cops who are running amok shutting down and seizing website domains (often wrongly, punishing innocent people who’ve committed no crime) in the name of copryight infringment, when these bureuracies were created to comabt terrorism and not copyright infringement. We’ve got people at the border and at airports whose wallets and checkbooks and iPhones and laptops are being searched and then these people are being arrested for having the wrong kind of porn, or because some dumb cop thinks their checks show “suspicious transactions.” This is way way way wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of the scope of fighting terrorism, yet the spread of these intrusive invasive searches continues to widen. Innocent citizens are now being arrested on bogus charges that have nothing to do with terrorism, but involve crap like “paying for an airline ticket with cash” (some people prefer to do that) or “having a checkbook showing sequential checks written in large amounts” (a woman at an airport was arrested recently and her husband called because the idiot TSA officer thought the checks were somehow “suspicious” — the woman wrote checks to buy furniture, it was all bullshit and insanity).

    We’re seeing this more and more under a Democratic president. The crazy mission creep whereby anti-terorrism laws are being used to prosecute people for putting the wrong materials in a recycling bin.

    These laws grossly violate the fourth amendment and the first amendment clause about the right to peaceably assemble and the fifth amendment and the fourteenth amendment.

    [4] The spread of “suspicious activity reporting”. This is just plain crazy Stalinism. Children being encouraged to turn in their parents, wives being encouraged to turn in their husbands, just because somebody thinks there might be something suspicious in their behavior. And if you’ve got an active enough imagination, what isn’t suspcious?

    If you ride a bike, you’re suspicious! You’re trying to avoid police stops! But if you drive a car, you’re suspicious! You’re trying to blend in with the crowd, just the way a terrorist would! If you take the bus, you’re suspcious! You’re trying to avoid a record of your movements! If you walk, you’re suspicious! Show us some ID, what are you doing loitering around? (As Trayvon found out…)

    It’s a paranoid nightmare and it’s escalating rapidly. And under a Democratic president. This whole “suspicious activity reporting” craze completely violates the fourth amenement, the fifth amendment and the fourteenth amendment.

    Violation after violation after violation of the most basic rights established for 900 years since the Magna Carta, and the abandonment of the fundamental rule of law — and Democrats don’t utter a peep. Under a Democratic president we get these kinds of atrocities and outrages, and no one seems to care.

    And the real problem is that anyone who points out this rapid slide into a totalitarian society gets giggled at and snickered at because the Tea Party cranks are making the same kinds of crazy charges. They’re making goofy accusations, calling Obama a “muslium Maoist usurper” and a “totalitarian dictator.

    Well, Obama isn’t muslim and he’s not a usurper and he’s no Maoist, but he’s been tearing up the constitution and wiping his ass with it, throwing out basic rules of law like the requirement that the state charge a citizen with a crime before mrudering him or the absolute requirement to know what law you’re accused of breaking before you’re punished or the absolute right to be confronted by your accuser before the state punishes you.

    And Obama obviously isn’t another Stalin or another Hitler, contrary to the crazy Tea Party rhetoric… but Obama has now got at his disposal all the illegal and extrajudicial and unconstitutional powers wielded by Hitler and Stalin.

    Think about it: Obama can order you murdered. No reason. No trial. No charges. He just orders it. Obama can order you kidnapped and held forever as a prisoner without a name in a cell without a number. Charges? No charges. It’s national security! You’re an enemy combatant! The NDAA legislation authorizes it!

    Obama hasn’t done this to large numbers of people, as Hitler or Stalin did, and Obama certainly won’t order hundreds of thousands or millions of people kidnapped and taken to secret prisons or executed for “hooliganism” or “insulting the dignity of the state.” But what about the next president? Or the president after that?

    You people need to think about what’s going on here. America is rapidly sliding into a smooth even complacent smugly confident Brave New Barbarism. We’re abandoning the basic rule of law and setting up a system where, just because some neighbor makes an anonymous “suspicious activities report” against you, guys in riot gear break down your door and drag you away in the middle of the night to a secret prison — and the charges against you are secret, and you have no right to see a lawyer.

    You’re not alarmed by that? Then you haven’t read your history, buckaroo, because that’s how the Grand Inquisition got started in Spain in the middle ages. That’s how the Great Terror started in France in 1798. That’s how Stalin’s purges started. That’s how Pol Pot’s Year Zero effort to purify society began. That’s how Mao’s “Great Leap Forward” mass imprisonment and mass murders revved up into a society-wide megadeath killing spree.

  63. 63.

    lou

    April 13, 2012 at 7:20 am

    won’t feed the troll, won’t feed the troll.

  64. 64.

    Some Loser

    April 13, 2012 at 10:22 am

    The Bill of Rights are part of the Constitution. Just wanted you to know that.

  65. 65.

    Some Loser

    April 13, 2012 at 10:25 am

    What is with people misrepresenting al-Awaki? Didn’t we already have a discusision on the legality of it several times? Or is the truth irrelevant to our ravings?

  66. 66.

    PWL

    April 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Between this and the Arizona “when is pregnancy?” story, I find it sad that more and more, this country is between run by people who can only be considered as dimwits and ignoramuses. When did outright stupidity become a necessary prerequisite for being a Republican candidate?

    Guess the lunatics are taking over the asylum…

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