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  1. 1.

    arguingwithsignposts

    See, and people say the Invisible Hand ™ of the of the Markets won’t take care of things if we don’t have public services. /glibertarian

  2. 2.

    JPL

    Mediate.com has an article and video of Cory on CBS this Morning.
    Doug..I was in moderation was it because of the mayors last name?

  3. 3.

    shortstop

    Didn’t he also wade around Newark personally helping people during the blizzard last year while Governor Bombast B. Bully vacationed in Florida?

  4. 4.

    JPL

    @shortstop: Don’t you know he only risked his life for attention. In fact before going into the building, he asked himself how many kudos will I get from this stunt.

  5. 5.

    JPL

    Doug you should change the headline because it was good news for the neighbor that he located and flung over his shoulder.

  7. 7.

    Gus

    @JPL: Is that his deal? I’m wondering about him, because he seems like a potential rising star. Is he just another self-aggrandizing pol?

  8. 8.

    Brian R.

    Wait, spelling out the governor’s name gets you in moderation?

    Is there a new kind of boehner pill out there that has that name?

  9. 9.

    kdaug

    Goddamned stupid jackass “hero”.

    He’s like the shipmate who doesn’t wear mesh-gloves, or the high-line wire guy who doesn’t go grounded, or the yahoo who keeps one in the chamber “just to be safe”.

    You may get away with it once, twice, maybe your whole career.

    And maybe Darwin will come out and select you.

    When your security detail is telling you to get the fuck out of the burning house, and you’re wearing – what, a jogging suit? Lemme guess, nylon? (Melts&burns real good) – get the fuck out of the burning house.

    He will milk this. It is the nature of things.

    But it was point-blank stupid.

  11. 11.

    dedc79

    As wonderful as this story is, I hope he doesn’t get reduced to the mayor who saved someone from a fire. This act is in keeping with everything he’s done in Newark since he became mayor.

    He has developed such a good reputation and such good will among NJ residents that he could easily have sought and won higher office by now. But instead he’s stuck with Newark, which had just begun to turn around when the bottom fell out of our economy in 2008.

  12. 12.

    Hugh

    @Gus:

    I think the comment you’re referencing was sarcasm.

    Anyone in public life would have some thought somewhere about how an act like this would play in the media but come on… He went into a burning house and saved someone, putting his own life at risk. That wasn’t a publicity stunt.

  13. 13.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    excellent job.

    i want to see what christie does to out macho him.

    btw, if you ever subscribed to his twitter feed, you know booker doesn’t hide from his constituents, he is right there transparently offering assistance to constituents.

  17. 17.

    Cain

    @dedc79: @dedc79:

    He has developed such a good reputation and such good will among NJ residents that he could easily have sought and won higher office by now. But instead he’s stuck with Newark, which had just begun to turn around when the bottom fell out of our economy in 2008.

    Maybe he just loves the city of Newark. Hell he’s out there risking his neck to help a neighbor or run around in freezing temperature.

  18. 18.

    MattMinus

    @kdaug:

    Fuck you. Only on these forums could people find a reason to complain about someone saving their neighbor from a fire.

  20. 20.

    PeakVT

    Kudos to Book–er.

    I’m curious to see if the home had working smoke detectors. I just replaced all of mine, so FSM forbid something happens I’ll make it outside before the flames can do much damage.

    ETA: Argh. Didn’t see the warning in time.

  23. 23.

    lamh35

    So yesterday Micheal Smerconish was subbing for Tweety and he had Alan Dershowitz on discussing George Zimmerman affidavit files yesterday by the prosecutor. Dershowitz said it was “unethical and irresponsible” and II was more taken aback by his tone, and how accusatory he was towards this prosecutor based soley on her press conference and I guess the affidavit and it just seems rather inflammatory towards her. It made me wary of even listening to what he said, he said it in such a bitter and rather partisan way too.

    Anyway, Booman was also wondering much the same as I was…how much should I care what Dershowitz says?

    Any Lawyers Want to Help Me Out?
    by BooMan

    Okay. I am willing to potentially make an ass out of myself this morning. I noticed during my morning reading that Prof. Alan Dershowitz said that the affidavit filed against George Zimmerman was “irresponsible and unethical” because it was so thin on details and because it was consistent with a self-defense argument. To be honest, i was disappointed that the affidavit didn’t provide any new information, but I am also confused by Dershowitz’s response…

  26. 26.

    Culture of Truth

    The Newark fire has been calling Sean Hannity to give its side of the story.

  27. 27.

    JPL

    @Culture of Truth: How long before we hear that Christie would have done it also?
    Unfortunately, his security detail would have to help him up the stairs. How many staff members would it take to help Christie become a hero?

    edit..both sides do it.

  28. 28.

    Bobby Thomson

    @lamh35:

    how much should I care what Dershowitz says?

    None. Dershowitz is a more successful version of Lanny Davis.

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    Steve

    @lamh35: Unethical is a weird word to use. If the problem is that the affidavit is consistent with a probable cause defense, then Zimmerman can ask the judge to dismiss the case because he thinks the affidavit is insufficient, or whatever.

    I’m not a criminal lawyer and I don’t know exactly how things work in Florida, but I wouldn’t think an affidavit of probable cause would have to disprove self-defense. It merely has to establish that self-defense is improbable. Since the affidavit claims it was Trayvon Martin heard screaming on the 9/11 tape, that certainly seems to make self-defense unlikely.

    Dershowitz is really smart and I’m not inclined to just jump to the conclusion that he had no point, but I’m confused by what he might have been getting at.

  31. 31.

    Culture of Truth

    @JPL: Christie would have called the people inside lazy jerks sitting on the couch waiting for someone to help them. Swoon.

  32. 32.

    dedc79

    @Cain: Yeah, I think he does. But it’s one thing to love a place, it’s another thing to stay there when you’ve got bigger and better paying options. He could love Newark as Governor of New Jersey if he wanted to.

  36. 36.

    lamh35

    @Steve: I’m telling you he sounded VERY partisan which was surprising to me I guess. He basically called her a showboating politican trying to maker her political career out of this and Smerconish who is a lawyer I think was in awe of this dude who sounded to me like he was mixing maybe a little personal animous(sp?) with factual knowledge of the law.

    I tuned out his argument soon as it seemed to get partisan which is why I came away from the segment pissed.

  38. 38.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    I don’t give a shit what the man does or what party he’s affiliated with, that took some serious balls and he easily could have gotten killed.

    But yeah, like some other commenters have said, what else could you do? Stand around and listen to the screaming? I’d go in too.

  39. 39.

    lamh35

    @Culture of Truth: thank you. “Angry” is the right word to use. he seemed angry at Angela Corley based solely on the affidavit??? It made no sense to me that he would seem so angry.

  40. 40.

    noodler

    I like Corey. My brother has a place in the ironbound and Newark has really shaped up lately. Anyway, Mr. Mayor is a pretty sharp guy, he should be going places. As for the fire, and snow shoveling, I’d expect nothing different. I’m sure he’ll do something I’m not a fan of, but I don’t need to be in the 100% column with pols, or people I like. He gets it.

  41. 41.

    geg6

    @Culture of Truth:

    This. He used to be someone worth listening to, but ever since 9/11, he’s another one that has completely lost his mind from fear. Like Dennis Miller, only slightly smarter.

    I turn him off when he comes onto my teevee screen. He cannot see anything, even the law, through any other filter than his fear and loathing of Democrats and others, especially dark skinned others, though I thought he only loathed swarthy Middle Easterners and not our native near ones. But his loathing of Obama has probably allowed him to spread his bigotry around.

  42. 42.

    Culture of Truth

    What people want in elected officials, particularly local ones, is a lot of attitude and no results. Also, like Chris Christie or that twit London mayor, feel free to vacation hundreds of miles away while disaster unfolds, as long as you call in now and then. The important thing is to talk down to everyone, blame other people for your failures and be a self-important jerk. That’s a sure ticket to success.

  43. 43.

    geg6

    @noodler:

    Yeah, first experience I had of who Corey was was through a tv series they did about him on, I think, Sundance Channel. I got that same little tingle down my spine that I did the first time I encountered Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Somehow, you just know this guy is going places and it seems to hit you right from the get-go.

  44. 44.

    Culture of Truth

    Democrats are always showing off, doing stuff. But who got bin Laden, huh?

    Wait, what?? Never mind.

  45. 45.

    JGabriel

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    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick:

    i want to see what christie does to out macho him.

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    Probably yell at a disabled child, then sign a bill making abortion illegal for rape victims — because making the tough choice to be an asshole is what courage is all about.

    .

  46. 46.

    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady)

    @lamh35:

    The question for MSNBC is why ask Dershowitz to opine on this subject at all? There are no other media ready lawyers who would be willing to opine on the subject? Dershowitz is a right wing nutjob waging a high profile jihad against Media Matters now because MJ Rosenberg said AIPAC had dual loyalty, so the fact that he’s invited on to opine can only mean that MSNBC was only interested in heat, not light. Shocking, I know.

  47. 47.

    joeyess

    Apparently, saying B—ker lands your comment in moderation.

    What algorithm hell is this?

  48. 48.

    Brian R.

    @geg6:

    Yeah, first experience I had of who Corey was was through a tv series they did about him on, I think, Sundance Channel.

    Brick City.

    Yeah, that was amazing. Like a documentary version of The Wire. The star-crossed lovers, a former Blood and a former Crip, were amazing, but Bo.oker still stole the show.

    Also, if toy’ve never seen “Street Fight,” the doc about Bo.oker’s first run for mayor against Sharpe James, check it out. Amazing.

  50. 50.

    Mark B

    Chris Christie could have put out the fire by inhaling deeply and removing all of the oxygen from the vicinity.

  51. 51.

    joeyess

    i want to see what christie does to out macho him.

    He’ll beat him in a hotdog eating contest and then faaaaaaarrrrrrt the Star Spangled Banner.

  52. 52.

    JGabriel

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    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady):

    Dershowitz is a right wing nutjob …, so the fact that he’s invited on to opine can only mean that MSNBC was only interested in heat, not light.

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    To be fair, it could also just mean that the MSNBC guest scheduler couldn’t find anyone else who was willing to appear on air with Michael Smerconish and legitimize him.

    .

  53. 53.

    Jennifer

    It’s actually a good thing Corey wasn’t wearing a hoodie, or Zimmerman would have shot him before he made it into the house to help those people.

  57. 57.

    Mark B

    To be serious, in addition to heroic actions, his public statements are pretty well done, giving credit to others and the professionals who helped. This is someone who really knows how to handle himself.

  58. 58.

    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady)

    @JGabriel:

    I’ve watched Smerconish fill in a few times, and I don’t find him objectionable – in some ways he’s less irritating than Tweety. His radio show is probably screechier, but I’ve heard him call out the right wing loons on several occasions.

  59. 59.

    JGabriel

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    amk:

    Hooker.
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    ETA: Great, this goes through.

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    Of course. A hooker is providing honest service to customers, a book3r is scheduling guests on cable news and talk shows to deceive the nation and bring about its ruin.

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  60. 60.

    Satanicpanic

    @lamh35: Dershowitz’s name came up in that article about Sheldon Adelstein in Rolling Stone- apparently Adelstein is an anti-union fanatic (shocking I know) and Dershowitz repped him in a lawsuit against the union.

  63. 63.

    amk

    twitterdom

    Not to be outdone by Cory Book.er, Chris Christie just ran into a bakery and saved a tray of Cinnamon Rolls from burning.

    fuck the stoopid moderation.

  65. 65.

    Culture of Truth

    Somehow Booker got Zuckerberg to pledge $100 million to Newark public schools. Show off!

  66. 66.

    Culture of Truth

    Somehow the Mayor got Zuckerberg to pledge $100 million to Newark public schools. Show off!

  67. 67.

    Brian R.

    @gelfling545:

    You must know that there are certain members of our society, particularly in the political realm, to whom other people dying is not a problem.

    Hell, for many on the right, it’s not only not a problem, it’s a turn-on.

    And I’m not just talking about how they get wood at the thought of brown people getting killed overseas, or dirty minorities on death row. Remember the applause the Republican crowd gave at that debate about how an uninsured person should just be left alone to die?

    The difference between being a conservative and being a sociopath is narrowing quickly.

  68. 68.

    Redshift

    Geez, can we ever bring up Christie without getting fat jokes? That’s really not what’s offensive about him, and there are plenty of people on the side of light who are heavy, too.

  72. 72.

    El Cid

    Another big government librul thinking it’s up to the government to save people who refuse to save themselves.

  73. 73.

    Cain

    @dedc79:

    @Cain: Yeah, I think he does. But it’s one thing to love a place, it’s another thing to stay there when you’ve got bigger and better paying options. He could love Newark as Governor of New Jersey if he wanted to.

    Not everyone wants to go to a higher office. If hes happy where he is, let him be.

  76. 76.

    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady)

    @lamh35:

    Well, that’s one way to have a “discussion” about it – I guess it would be boring to have everyone on TV agreeing that Trayvon was indefensibly murdered by a cop wannabe with race and anger issues. Gotta create controversy – those cable screamfests don’t watch themselves.

  77. 77.

    Nutella

    Someone known to Twitter as marcusgilmer makes a Chicago joke:

    Mayor @CoryBoo.ker saved a woman from a fire. Mayor Daley would have hired a cousin’s firm to do it and blamed the media when they failed.

  78. 78.

    Steve

    @lamh35: I read an op-ed piece by Dershowitz the other day on the Zimmerman case that seemed pretty meticulous and on-point to me. As others have said, he can have his crazy moments too. I guess the question is, setting aside all this person stuff, is there actually anything wrong with the affidavit, and from this lawyer’s perspective I sure haven’t heard a good argument yet.

  79. 79.

    Sentient Puddle

    Is this also a case where replying to any post will land you in moderation because the link URL contains the offending word as well?

  81. 81.

    Michael

    I’m no expert on Florida criminal procedure, but I don’t think the prosecution has to knock down any potential defenses until after they’ve been raised, and seeing as how Zimmerman hasn’t even been arraigned yet, don’t know how its possible for him to have raised a defense. The fact remains that he’s not required to argue self-defense at trial, no matter what he told the police, so I don’t believe the prosecution is required to knock back that defense in its initial affidavit.

    All they have to do is lay out facts for a prima facia case of Murder II, which I believe they did

  83. 83.

    JGabriel

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    Culture of Truth:

    Somehow the Mayor got Zuckerberg to pledge $100 million to Newark public schools.

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    Mayor B00ker also stopped the Evil League of Evil from stealing an ATOM BOMB and taking over the country with its EVIL HEAT LASERS.

    .

  86. 86.

    Linda Featheringill

    I don’t live in New Jersey but if Hizzonor wanted some other office, I’d vote for him.

    How long has it been since there was this much admiration for the Mayor of Newark, NJ? Never?

  87. 87.

    Lex

    Obligatory Fark headline: Newark Mayor downgrades neighbor’s condition from “burn victim” to “alive and still in Newark”

    Me? I’ve been in burning buildings. He had some big brass ones to go do what he did, even if it was, by professional firefighting standards, way stupid. Bravo to all involved.

  89. 89.

    handsmile

    More “legal analysis” from Dershowitz…

    Currently the Guardian has two articles addressing the legality under international law of an Israeli or US strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Arguing in the affirmative:

    Alan Dershowitz, the renowned Harvard jurist, contends that Israel has the right to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities as a pre-emptive act of self-defence under the UN charter and the Caroline test because Tehran has launched various “acts of war” against the Jewish state including shipping weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah, and calling for Israel’s destruction.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/12/iran-attack-un-charter-experts

    @chopper:(#78): FTW!

  90. 90.

    Calouste

    There is now an #CoryB00kerStories has tag on twitter:

    When Chuck Norris has nightmares, Cory B00ker turns on the light & sits with him until he falls back asleep.

  91. 91.

    Legalize

    Was the rescued woman a blah, and/or a Democrat? If so, the Mayor is racist. Every year, billions of white non-democrats die in fires in the United States. How come the mayor has not rescued any of them? And why doesn’t the lame stream media cover white people killed in fires.

  93. 93.

    Peregrinus

    @Culture of Truth:

    My understanding is that that money came with plenty of strings attached – namely, most of that isn’t going to the current schools to improve conditions, but to your usual charter school stuff.

    Cory Booker’s an awesome mayor, you’ll never find me denying that – but I do wish he’d stop listening to whoever’s making him agree with Christie on education, of all things. (Of course, it’s possible that with the current wave back in favor of progressivism, he might switch over too.)

  94. 94.

    Warren Terra

    Obviously, we’re not paying enough attention to Mayor Bouker’s Big Government, Executive Power overreach in invading his neighbor’s property? What right had this city official to enter her home? Heck, even before “Stand Your Ground” the NRA would have seen this as a clear-cut case of the homeowner having the right to shoot Bouker. Practically an obligation, in fact.

  95. 95.

    fasteddie9318

    I heard when he-who-cannot-be-named-thank-you-Wordpress was in the alps, fighting grizzly bears, he used his magical fire breath and saved the maidens fair.

  96. 96.

    Yutsano

    If this man does go for higher office, we’re gonna need another blog filter fix. JC is gonna be cranky. I can’t wait!

  97. 97.

    Mnemosyne

    @dedc79:

    He’s only 42 (my age — yikes!) He’s got plenty of time to run for more offices if that’s what he wants to do.

    Does New Jersey have term limits for governor? I could see B00ker deciding to wait out the inexplicably popular Christie’s term before making a run at governor.

  98. 98.

    Nina

    This will be the only time Democratic party officials will be happy to see the quote, “I just grabbed her and whipped her out of the bed” in a news story about one of our guys.

  99. 99.

    amk

    @Yutsano: yeah, tell me about it. fucking comment still in fucking moderation even after 2 hour because I used his fucking name. fuck cole.

  100. 100.

    fasteddie9318

    @Mnemosyne:

    Does New Jersey have term limits for governor?

    The Wikipedia tells me that there’s no limit on overall terms, but you can’t serve more than two terms in a row. I assume a President Mittens, or President Grannie Starver, or President Man on Dog, or whoever, will appoint Christie as his Secretary of HHS when the time comes, since nothing encapsulates the Republican commitment to health and human services like a morbidly obese douchebag.

  103. 103.

    El Cid

    My favorite: ‘Sharks have a week on TV dedicated to Cory Booker.’

    Runner-up: ‘The smoke was treated for Cory Booker exposure.’

  106. 106.

    AxelFoley

    @Redshift:

    Geez, can we ever bring up Christie without getting fat jokes? That’s really not what’s offensive about him, and there are plenty of people on the side of light who are heavy, too.

    Fuck that fat bastard. I’m not gonna stop making fat joke on his behalf or for fear of insulting overweight people. For most people, being fat is something that can be changed. He could lay off the donuts and hot dogs and slim down. And it’d be healthy for him.

    Anyways, let me test this moderation thing–Booker.

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